georginho_juventusygr Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Arsenal have got to spend all these 6 or 7 transfer windows of money at some point, maybe they'll go on a mad spree in the next week I did this back in CM 03/04. I think also about six-transfer-window money. It ended up with EUR 99M for Daniele de Rossi. Come on, Wenger. You have that EUR 65M for Cavani. Not sure about the salary, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I did this back in CM 03/04. I think also about six-transfer-window money. It ended up with EUR 99M for Daniele de Rossi.Come on, Wenger. You have that EUR 65M for Cavani. Not sure about the salary, though. You would like Arsenal to sign Cavani, he's your biggest threat to defending your title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candre168 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think Wenger said he was liked Cavani because he wants to give the impression the club can still attract/buy that sort of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think he said he liked Cavani because he likes Cavani. It doesn't mean anything just saying he thinks he is a good player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candre168 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 He had to know how it would be taken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Honestly don't think he cared. There would be no logic in what you're saying though as that would hurt him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It's annoying hearing Wenger often say it isn't about the price of a player but the quality. If that were so then just buy Cavani. We'd walk 4th and would be put in a great position for the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 We would also have not much money left over to buy other players. I am all in favour of spending but the money needed to get a player of Cavani's stature now is just silly. That is forgetting his wages also. This whole discussion is mad as we aren't signing Cavani. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Honestly don't think he cared. There would be no logic in what you're saying though as that would hurt him Didn't he make a comment about that Holtby being the 'kind of player we should be after' or something when he'd basically signed for Spuds the day before and everyone knew that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 We would also have not much money left over to buy other players. I am all in favour of spending but the money needed to get a player of Cavani's stature now is just silly. That is forgetting his wages also.This whole discussion is mad as we aren't signing Cavani. If you spent a big 'ol transfer fee on Cavani and then his wages too wouldn't there be a lot of questions of how comes that money couldn't have gone to RvP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Nope because RvP wasn't staying regardless of what we could offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Aye RVP was going to leave cause he wants a trophy in the last 2-3 years of his top flight career, which we couldnt give him realistically regardless of how much we could of paid him, it will take us spending quite alot of money on the squad to make us title contenders again, so even with a signing like Cavani which i would love we are still looking at 4th maybe at a push 3rd each year as our realistic goal, the quicker someone like Usmanov takes over the reigns of the club the better imo, then we will see title contention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Victor Valdes won't be signing a new contract at Barca apparently, better get ready to say bye to Szczesny! Yep, i'm sure Arsenal will pay Valdes his £150k p/wk contract no problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He meant Barcelona will come and buy Chesney i think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert the Spud Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I took it to mean Valdes would replace him, because the thought of Barca wanting Sir Chesney was too ludicrous to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think it would be more likely they go for Reina or another Spanish goalkeeper, though Chesney is a very promising young goalkeeper and with us being the Un-official Barca feeder team its only natural for people to assume He would be considered by them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawee Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Don't be ridiculous. Barcelona only buy players who have already "made it" with us. So in 3 years, Woj is going there with Wilshere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Barca can f off. On a related topic. Szczesny has been quality lately, really solid. I was worried about him late last season but this season he's be top notch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlm8695 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Theo <3 Has finally signed da ting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Here's what I don't understand - Theo wants £100k a week in the summer and won't sign until he gets that and plays through the middle. Wenger drops him for a few months in disgust before then eventually playing him through the middle and giving him the money he wanted. So, what was the point in dropping him then?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So Theo's contract works out at 116K a week. What the hell was he asking for originally? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy13 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So Theo's contract works out at 116K a week. What the hell was he asking for originally? Doesn't matter, it is just more evidence of a spineless manager. Whether you wanted Theo to stay or not (and I did), refusing to play him and costing us points for 2 months before then caving in shows how much Wenger is losing his grip at Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Is that before or after tax? You never know with these things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Doesn't matter, it is just more evidence of a spineless manager. Whether you wanted Theo to stay or not (and I did), refusing to play him and costing us points for 2 months before then caving in shows how much Wenger is losing his grip at Arsenal. That is contradictory Is that before or after tax? You never know with these things before I should hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Surely if Wenger sticks to his fair wage model he'll be giving Djourou, Diaby and Chamakh £80k contracts now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 So Theo's contract works out at 116K a week. What the hell was he asking for originally? If that's true, I don't think he's earned that high a wage. He's been erratic to say the least and he's a long way from being a top quality front man too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eugster Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 He'd have got more elsewhere so not much we could do about it. Hard for the club to win. If he leaves we didn't do enough to keep him, if he stays then we're paying him to much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris79 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Great news if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'm glad he's staying, I just don't think he's earned what we're giving him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vynal Seven Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 From an outside point of view it seems a ridiculous wage for Walcott to be on but hey its not my club so what do I care? Really don't think you guys have to worry about Barca coming in for Szcezney (sp?) either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Surely if Wenger sticks to his fair wage model he'll be giving Djourou, Diaby and Chamakh £80k contracts now. Probably If that's true, I don't think he's earned that high a wage. He's been erratic to say the least and he's a long way from being a top quality front man too. I agree it has been badly handled throughout From an outside point of view it seems a ridiculous wage for Walcott to be on but hey its not my club so what do I care?Really don't think you guys have to worry about Barca coming in for Szcezney (sp?) either. We aren't but Barcelona have done weirder things. He is a good keeper and is good with the ball at his feet so he fits the bill in that sense. In that he is far from the finished article not so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwig Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 £116k p/w would still work out at just over £20m for a 3 ½ year contract. It might seem a lot, but you have to ask whether you’d be confident of bringing in a replacement for £20m if you include transfer fee and wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 From an outside point of view it seems a ridiculous wage for Walcott to be on but hey its not my club so what do I care?Really don't think you guys have to worry about Barca coming in for Szcezney (sp?) either. They bought Hleb! I now expect Walcott to go back to being useless every other game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'm glad he's staying, I just don't think he's earned what we're giving him. If you're going by players earning what you're paying them there's probably a fair few that wouldn't be worth it tbh all over football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 If you're going by players earning what you're paying them there's probably a fair few that wouldn't be worth it tbh all over football Very true, we have quite a few others too, but that doesn't alter the fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Maybe he's not worth that wage based on ability, but he might have been given it based on loyalty and length of service. At the end of the contract he would have been an arsenal player for 10 years! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 It's just where football is, isn't it. You can allow Walcott to walk away and some other club, competitor no doubt, will invite him in and give him that money. I think at his age with the money players are getting he's not far from the ballpark. Hopefully you will try to take action on this in 3 or 4 years time on renewing or selling him rather than letting it run down. He may also be approaching some consistency in his game. Any idea what Wilshere's deal was? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 Maybe he's not worth that wage based on ability, but he might have been given it based on loyalty and length of service. At the end of the contract he would have been an arsenal player for 10 years! It's pretty unique that a player who could go for free at the end of the season has extended his contract. Based on past experience I was expecting him to go tbf, so fair play to the club for hanging on to him even if we did have to spend too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajw10 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Wilshere's is 65k rising to 80k based on certain clauses I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Reports in Italy suggest that Juventus have won the race for Fernando Llorente and have agreed terms with him ahead of a summer Bosman move. by GRAEME BAILEY 7:06 PM bleh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris79 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Were in in the race? Are we even rumoured to be in any other race? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveUK Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Not sure if we was in the race or even interested, but it was a player i was hoping we would go for considering hes a decent forward, scores goals, and ohhhhh free! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ234 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 We were never in for Llorente he is quite similar to Giroud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 They bought Hleb! I now expect Walcott to go back to being useless every other game. I miss Hleb =/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 yeah can't say I'm particularly fussed about missing out on Llorente tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I miss Hleb =/ Yeah, I don't see what was amusing about Barca buying him, he was fantastic that last season at Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chr1s Lawson Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 It's pretty unique that a player who could go for free at the end of the season has extended his contract. Based on past experience I was expecting him to go tbf, so fair play to the club for hanging on to him even if we did have to spend too much. Yeah I agree, I was taking a similar view of it to the RVP situation and the fact that if he didn't intend to leave then why not sign the contract. Perhaps Walcott has a clever agent who advised him to sit on less money until the club made a last ditch effort to keep him, as suggested by the size of his new salary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHartman71 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 it was quite amusing how within 2 years he'd gone from signing for Barca in a £10M+ transfer deal to being on loan at Birmingham Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfgrigg Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yeah, I don't see what was amusing about Barca buying him, he was fantastic that last season at Arsenal. Was he? Maybe I'm misremembering but I recall him appearing fantastically skilful but rarely producing anything useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhughthom Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Was he? Maybe I'm misremembering but I recall him appearing fantastically skilful but rarely producing anything useful. You could certainly say that about his first few seasons, but in that final season he had a spell playing behind the striker when he was probably Arsenal's best player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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