bell Posted September 1, 2012 Author Share Posted September 1, 2012 Would be suprised to see Chelsea go for Carroll if he had a good season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Carroll destroying Fulham today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I really am baffled by the level of criticism towards FSG. Seems quite stupid that people assume we're after some players based on media reports only, then get all indignant that we haven't blown a wad getting them in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 It's almost like if you use Carroll to the best of his ability he'll do well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 It's almost like if you use Carroll to the best of his ability he'll do well! Surprisingly weird that isnt it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 So we can still sign Owen because he's on a free. Never thought I'd say this as I really don't like the guy, but I think I'd be happy to sign him on a pay to play contract given our predicament. Tragic that it's come to this, but it is what it is. Think there is any chance of it happening? How would you feel if it did happen? Edit - Actually I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would accept it for obvious reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Wouldn't be happy with it, not even sure he can preform at this level anymore tbh but given our current predicament and he's given a pay as you play deal and does well, I'll accept it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Yeah, massive no to Owen. Would be terrible if we brought him back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. Guy hardly has the desire to run his butt off all day, wrong attitude, and don't rate him to do anything consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullem Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 We definitely could have done with Bellamy staying, although his wages are probably fairly high but his work rate was there and he'd be the sort of back-up striking option that we need and are perhaps lacking now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Could do with a Gary Mac impact kinda player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Yeah I think Bellamy staying would have been a plus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Could do with a Gary Mac impact kinda player While we're at it we should sign David Fairclough!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Carroll pulls his hamstring. Clearly going to be out for 4 months and get sent back here. I think it was a good time to sell Bellamy too, especially if his retirement rumours prove to ring true. His head hasn't been right since Gary Speed died, ended up doing virtually nothing for us in the latter part of last season after his good start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nad Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 We didn't sell Bellamy, we let him go on a free. Same with Maxi. And Kuyt for £1m. Would definitely have kept at least one of those three. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Not sure how serious that Carroll pull up was, maybe just a bit of tightness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 We got rid of Kuyt & Maxi when the time was right for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 We didn't sell Bellamy, we let him go on a free. Same with Maxi. And Kuyt for £1m. Would definitely have kept at least one of those three. I know that. Yeah with hindsight and us having no real striker depth I'd much rather Kuyt was still here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 It's so pointless criticising the decisions to let Kuyt and Maxi go when they seemed perfectly reasonable at the time. Just because we haven't managed to buy everyone we wanted doesn't make those decisions bad ones. Bellamy wanted to go because of his family and maybe because his head wasn't fully in the game. Fwiw I think when Borini and Suarez have had more game time together they'll do quite well for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 glad i bowed out yesterday when i did, but i at least thought we would get dempsey ffs rodgers said it himself, it would be ridiculous letting carroll go without some kind of replacement for him. really is a let down that and leaves us criminally short up front. FSG have no excuse now, we've got rid of almost everyone we could possibly hope to and the wage bill must be at its lowest for years. but if we continue to get low transfer budgets from them then they can **** off. dont get me wrong they have done brilliantly so far in a business sense and we must be at our strongest in this sense ever. its just that right now, the squad and team are suffering and im not trolling when i say this, but everton are a better bet to finish higher than us right now and unless rodgers is a miracle worker like ive said before then 8th is probably our position right now. can you imagine if suarez gets a 3 month injury?? the rest of our attacking players are either not good enough or too young and unknown ability wise to be able to expect anything from. we'll be going into games hoping for a 0-0 at this rate. tbf im just having a little rant cos i feel deflated after yesterday and its probably more so 'once bitten twice shy' from the owners but they really really have no excuses for not releasing funds in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 The levels of overreaction in this thread just keeps attaining new heights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonus1010 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Carroll pulls his hamstring. Clearly going to be out for 4 months and get sent back here. They paid a fee to get him, if he is injured for 4 months, tough. We couldnt recall him from his loan even IF we wanted either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Carroll will miss the England internationals though, I reckon which is genuinely disappointing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I honestly couldn't care less about England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I don't care if you do or you don't. I do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 The levels of overreaction in this thread just keeps attaining new heights. lets see if its an overreaction come xmas eh? right now we're relying on everyone and everything coming good with no wiggle room at all. i said yesterday would be an anti-climax and i was right but i still tried to be optimistic and im trying to be optimistic about this season but optimism and reality are 2 different entities you know?! and the reality is this squad doesnt inspire massive amount of confidence now does it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 I don't care if you do or you don't. I do Well I don't care if you care if I care if I do or you don't. Looks like Carrol won't feature for England, everybody. Great news and good to know Isn't there an England thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 lets see if its an overreaction come xmas eh? right now we're relying on everyone and everything coming good with no wiggle room at all.i said yesterday would be an anti-climax and i was right but i still tried to be optimistic and im optimistic about this season but optimism and reality are 2 different entities you know?! and the reality is this squad doesnt inspire massive amount of confidence now does it? It inspires a lot more confidence than it did than last season. It's clear we could have done with another forward now Carroll has left, but failing to sign Clint Dempsey is hardly the end of the ****ing world is it? Why don't we just get to Xmas and see where we are rather than doom mongering? If it turns out we've only scored 3 goals in the league by then i'll happily come back to you and give credit for your ability of foresight. But to be honest with the way we're playing at the moment we're going to continue to create chances and the goals will come. Sometimes it's hard but you've just got to keep the faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 yeah, dont really see what the overreaction is. we are desperately desperately short up front and relying on people who have hardly played or not played at all for the club being great. honestly don't know how anyone can look at who we have upfront and think it's acceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 But to be honest with the way we're playing at the moment we're going to continue to create chances and the goals will come. Sometimes it's hard but you've just got to keep the faith. just like happened last season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Well I don't care if you care if I care if I do or you don't. Looks like Carrol won't feature for England, everybody. Great news and good to know Isn't there an England thread? Boo hoo we don't want to talk about Carroll in this thread ... except you all are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 We had to sign at least one forward yesterday, and we didn't for the sake of a couple of million quid, after off loading millions in wages. It's left us knee deep in ****, up front. How people can say that people are over reacting to this is baffling. If we have one injury up front, and we will, are we supposed to bring Adam Morgan through? Or Pacheco? They aren't good enough and you can quote me on that in a few months. I just hope something is lined up in January, but our season could well be damage limitation by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 What about that lad from Levekusen, isn't he also a young forward? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshyboy1984 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Think Gerrard gets moved into that central forward role before we start thinking about playing Morgan in league games tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Yesil is the second coming of Falcao. No worries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 When does the loan market open, plenty of players who won't get a game at other clubs I'd imagine, Sturridge the main target probably. By the way Dempsey is a whole 8 years older than Borini. a £5m difference for a player who has a long while until he reaches his peak nevermind 30's will probably turn-out to be a great deal. He's played 2 league games in a club after having to quickly re-adjust from Italian football Chill guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjaminpeter Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Alright then yeah, 2 games in and we're ****ed for this season. Let's have a think about who we can get in next summer shall we?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 He played at Swansea before (Borini) and price for Dempsey is related to how much Liverpool unsettled him and laid him on a plate for Levy!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 What about that lad from Levekusen, isn't he also a young forward? yeah, but only one appearance for Bayer at senior level Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 When does the loan market open, plenty of players who won't get a game at other clubs I'd imagine, Sturridge the main target probably.By the way Dempsey is a whole 8 years older than Borini. a £5m difference for a player who has a long while until he reaches his peak nevermind 30's will probably turn-out to be a great deal. He's played 2 league games in a club after having to quickly re-adjust from Italian football Chill guys and what about this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Anybody else just creaming in excitement for Sahin's likely debut tomorrow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Yeah, you're well short up top, no question. Maybe Joe Cole will play there in a (big) pinch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 How many appearances did Sterling have at senior level before this season? Yesil's goalscoring record for Leverkusens second team and for Germany at youth level is fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 and what about this season? Well as I say Borini's had about 2 league games, he could well be a key player this season, just give him some time starting tomorrow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirds4life Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 How many appearances did Sterling have at senior level before this season? Yesil's goalscoring record for Leverkusens second team and for Germany at youth level is fantastic. Agree, Sterling's been chucked in at 17 and looked class. IF something happens to Suarez/Borini, he could be a vital backup? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 It inspires a lot more confidence than it did than last season. It's clear we could have done with another forward now Carroll has left, but failing to sign Clint Dempsey is hardly the end of the ****ing world is it? Why don't we just get to Xmas and see where we are rather than doom mongering? If it turns out we've only scored 3 goals in the league by then i'll happily come back to you and give credit for your ability of foresight. But to be honest with the way we're playing at the moment we're going to continue to create chances and the goals will come. Sometimes it's hard but you've just got to keep the faith. except i was using hindsight to try to extrapolate what the future may hold in the fact we we're atrocious in the 2nd half v west brom and failed to score in the first half when we were on top and massively struggled against hearts over 2 legs but yeah we played exceptionally against man city but guess what? we only drew... shades of last season indeed! ok i woke up with a massive hangover and my posts today may have a pessimistic tone but i stand by everything i have said and we're gonna need huge amounts of luck this season if we're to succeed in any way shape or form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 i am amazed at the assumptions being made about interactions between br and the board if anything fsg seems to be honest in their communication. why do people choose to think their first dishonest act will be at the start of the tenure of the new manager they just appointed? from a business perspective that makes next to no sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/09/01/3346423/liverpool-hunt-new-managing-director-after-disastrous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 Would love that to be true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted September 1, 2012 Share Posted September 1, 2012 That would be great. Ayre is a buffoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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