knapp... Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 erm, no way would i want toure trying to get up and down the line at rb ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim82 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 erm, no way would i want toure trying to get up and down the line at rb ffs.Haha yeah, even i'd draw the line there. Has proved he can't play there any more on a few occasions for Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackDaddy-D Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If the CBs are Agger +1, then the third choice needs to have some experience about him in my opinion. Just having Kelly, Wisdom and Coates (if he stays) as backup is not ideal if you end up having to stick someone in the team for a month or so. As 3rd choice CB I don't think that Kolo is a terrible option, but as others have pointed out he has lacked form and fitness, and how likely is he to get those back sitting on the bench most weeks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'm starting to fall into the "Yes" camp for Kolo. We need some players with top level experience and he brings that. BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty: "Sincerely hope Liverpool goalkeeper Pepe Reina has not picked up his copy of Bosnian paper Dnevni Avaz this morning. Suggests Reina will be replaced by the "younger and better" - and cheaper - Stoke City goalkeeper Asmir Begovic." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 We've had much worse than Kolo on our books and for a free transfer for a year or two, it isn't that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 It's good news that we appear to be getting these deals done quickly, don't want any more deadline-day-desperation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Is carrolls injury likely to stop his transfer now? because that's all we need Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 It's probably a fake injury so he can sort out his transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne'o Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 [video=youtube;SkLJQu-fHw8] If there was ever going to be a movie staring Jesus, i think Samaras would have to play him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Or you know, Joe Cavaziel... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Or you know, Joe Cavaziel... Jim* 10char Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne'o Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Is carrolls injury likely to stop his transfer now? because that's all we need I read it was because he would prefer a move back to Newcastle? lets hope we get 15 mill where ever he goes. still gives us a profit of 45 mill from the torres and Carroll deal.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Jim*10char Oh yeah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 I read it was because he would prefer a move back to Newcastle? lets hope we get 15 mill where ever he goes. still gives us a profit of 45 mill from the torres and Carroll deal.. Not quite following your maths here? Got £50m for Torres = £50m profit Spaffed £35 on Carrol = £15m left Sold Carroll for £15m = £30m of cash. If you just expunge the Carroll deal, you can treat it as £30m for selling Torres (probably what he was worth). As damage limitation goes for a bad transfer, we have got out about as well as we could of, and probably all things considered are finances are probably where they would been in a normal world where that summer never happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Funny thing is, we were offered sturridge+35m for torres. if we had taken that, we could of been 12m up and no carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Sturridge didn't want to leave Chelsea at the time. If only... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 [video=youtube;SkLJQu-fHw8] i've seen this so may times but i could not even begin to explain what is happening edit - both their actions are so priceless. i'm sure if you showed this to someone outside football they would say it was scripted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jongi Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Not quite following your maths here?Got £50m for Torres = £50m profit Spaffed £35 on Carrol = £15m left Sold Carroll for £15m = £30m of cash. If you just expunge the Carroll deal, you can treat it as £30m for selling Torres (probably what he was worth). As damage limitation goes for a bad transfer, we have got out about as well as we could of, and probably all things considered are finances are probably where they would been in a normal world where that summer never happened let's not try invent maths theorems bought carroll - 35 sold carroll - 15 loss - 20 simple as that. no maths you try play refutes this simple fact it was bad business. the best we can do is when he leaves, we all agree never to talk about it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalution Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 i've seen this so may times but i could not even begin to explain what is happeningedit - both their actions are so priceless. i'm sure if you showed this to someone outside football they would say it was scripted. 0:48 to 0:52 looks like some odd photoshopped gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim82 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 let's not try invent maths theoremsbought carroll - 35 sold carroll - 15 loss - 20 simple as that. no maths you try play refutes this simple fact it was bad business. the best we can do is when he leaves, we all agree never to talk about it again. Agree with this. We still paid £35m for Carroll, regardless of what anyone else cost. It's money that could have been spent much more wisely, and it's good to see that after a shaky start Rodgers and the rest of them seem to be going in the right direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Taking a punt on Carroll wasn't completely ridiculous at the time. He was in great form, looked like he could be the main English striker, hold up the ball well and bring other people such as Suarez in to the game as well as increased threat from set pieces (not to mention he really does have a cannon of a left foot) But the price was just ridiculous. Ridiculous doesn't even cover it. And I don't care if Chelsea overpaid for Torres to fund it, it will go down as one of the worst transfer pieces of business ever. I'm glad we've got some money for him. I also feel sorry for Andy himself, although there were rumours about his professionalism early on, he's always going to be labelled as an expensive flop now and that's really unfair on him. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/8729160/Liverpool-boss-Brendan-Rodgers-expects-a-quick-decision-on-Andy-Carroll-s-future Based on what Rodgers has said there, I wouldn't be surprised if Carroll was actually offered the opportunity to stay, as an impact bench player. Providing he knuckles down, works hard, and wants to be part of a team rather than a starting lump up front for a smaller club and end up in relegation battles or even actually going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daemonic Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 That interview is just Brendan spinning it for the media. Andy will be out the door as soon as we get a decent offer and I'd guess the conversation was more letting him know he has no future are Liverpool and encouraging him to go. He needs all the transfer funds he can generate and having a 15m (assuming that's AC's current market value) backup on the bench does not make sense when 12m Borini is already there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 We need funds to go towards Lucas Digne and Papadopoulos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRJ Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Let's just sign De Lucas so we can realise the dream of a Lucas midfield partnership :***) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 @TheTotalLFC: Europa League winners to get Champions League spot from 2015/2016 season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,,12038_8726260,00.html Love the woodwork stat and table at the bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Select_screen_name: Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Hadn't even noticed it was that much of an issue this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 We've had much worse than Kolo on our books and for a free transfer for a year or two, it isn't that bad. Completely off topic but do you have Xbox? Ran into a SRL1888 and you popped into my head, Tiger Woods 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Random aside: I never knew Riise declared bankruptcy at some point. Good documentary on US sports and their high bankruptcy rate. There's a similar problem with African footballers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlGpdvh3bD4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Completely off topic but do you have Xbox? Ran into a SRL1888 and you popped into my head, Tiger Woods 14 No I sold mine, but to be fair, when I did I didn't have X-Box live either . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Wonder how much these 'quotes' from Begovic are to be believed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VamPook Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 They're just idiots Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 Benteke trying to force move away from Villa. Asking price is apparently £25m though, which is a bit steep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knapp... Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 i'd say that was a bit steep yeah . we don't need a striker who's going to want first team football, even if suarez went, sturridge would be our main man, bringing in someone else who'll want to play in his position is not worth it. we need cover, someone who'll be happy with a squad role. someone like kone from wigan would be a better use of money if he was willing to come in as a backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Think we can say let's not spend any more money on people who have displayed ability for one season, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafParrot Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Its 6 months longer than Carroll did. Lets pay 70m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Reportedly close to signing Aspas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullem Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Random aside: I never knew Riise declared bankruptcy at some point. Good documentary on US sports and their high bankruptcy rate. There's a similar problem with African footballers.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlGpdvh3bD4 Riise was playing golf with Aaron Ramsey and Theo Walcott the other day, surprising to find them as friends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullem Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/mourinho-carra-was-a-real-artist Mourinho having a bit of a troll. Carra: an artist. Who was it that once said they thought it was ridiculous that Carragher got applauded for kicking the ball out when in their team they'd have been booed. Thinking someone like Puyol. Anyway, they'd disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenco Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 i'd say that was a bit steep yeah .we don't need a striker who's going to want first team football, even if suarez went, sturridge would be our main man, bringing in someone else who'll want to play in his position is not worth it. we need cover, someone who'll be happy with a squad role. someone like kone from wigan would be a better use of money if he was willing to come in as a backup. I'd rather we bought players who do want first team football, there is no point signing unambitious people who are happy to sit on the bench and pick up their wages for doing nothing. It's also better that we look to sign players to improve (or at least fight for a place in) our first team, not just sign back-ups. But I wouldn't pay £25m for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bell Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 Arsenal agree a fee with Swansea for Williams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divinity Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I'm delighted to hear that news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim82 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I reckon he'll be good for them, but i'm glad we're looking at other options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Just heard that shelvey may be off to west ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullem Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 That'd be a shame, I rate Shelvey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emersonlfc Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Prospect to be a good player but does seem to have an ego problem. Mentioned it before, would rather we loaned him out to a team who liked to pass it about before getting rid of him completely. Just needs games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_G_32201 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 He has potential no doubt, but still needs time to develop. He has the passion to play for the club but his decision making needs to improve, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foofighter23 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 i'd keep him. absolutely destroys teams at a lower level and hes still only 20-21. if he can genuinely make the step up in a few years we'll regret letting him go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jep Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Hope Shelvey is moved on for good money - decent talent but never looks like he fits in the same as others we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipidus Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Strange if he leaves really, particularly given the snippets we say in that documentary about how he was going to be brendans important player. itll leave us very short in midfield as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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