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Shelvey was the wrong sub at the wrong time, could have bought on Assiadi for Allen, and put Henderson in the middle.

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Shame.

The only thing which annoyed me was our willingness to continue passing the ball out from the back when it should have been hoofed forward.

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Assiadi was worse then Shelvey thought, the later atleast did a decent run while Assiadi did nothing, strange subs indeed

I was largely right about how it would play out but also wrong about who was going to score, probably good that I was wrong thought, since it made the end a lot more intresting

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Assaidi did nothing? He raped up their defence about 6-7 times within his first 15 mins of coming on.

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Great performance, but gutted to go out. We were bossing that and when it goes 3-1 why does Rodgers change it? Killed our momentum completely.

Battle for top 6 now - at least with Sturridge and Coutinho back in the side I fancy us to at least get that this season.

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Shelvey better than Assaidi because he made one decent run into the box. :D

Come back soon, funny.

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Shelvey is poor, really should not be here after the summer.

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Shelvey is poor, really should not be here after the summer.

Agreed. He's the type of player who will look good in a bottom 6-8 side, or a team in the championship, but he hasn't got enough quality to keep on here. Such a slow thinker.

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had to laugh at the gerrard interview before the match when he was told about how many great youngster weve got and he said 'have we?' when you could see he really wanted to say, 'nah, dont think so pal'. flattered to deceive so far...

the plus i thought was assaidi, dunno what falahk is on about?! everytime ive seen him he's tore the rb apart and did so again tonight. dunno what his problem is of not getting games but i'd certainly be giving him more game time after that cameo.

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Thought Assaidi showed glimpses especially as when he came on they basically had 10 men behind the ball. Feel he could offer than Sterling currently and hope to see him more involved between now and the end of the season too.

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Assaidi is great against tired legs. Done decent considering his time on the pitch recently. He's better than Sterling, I know that. He should get more time. Even if it's sub appearances

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Thought Assaidi showed glimpses
this was sort of the problem, glimpses without any end product and he misplaced a bunch of simple passes, to me it looked very much like he was playing on a different wavelength compared to the rest of the team, if this is down to lack of of first team football, lack of effort in training or him not being good enough I dont know

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I remember him misplacing one pass. It was a bit of a shocker, but that was it. Other than that I thought he was pretty excellent.

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this is just a continuation of the story of the season - one **** up that leaves us just short of a what we need

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he was ****ing fantastic. there was a moment late on, bout the 85th min, where a zenit player got the ball, and turned back towards his own goal, and i thought oh great here is another 20secs of possession for them, and in the blink of an eye Lucas calmy closed down the 5yrds from behind him and just poked the ball away towards Gerrard as the zenit player was about to pass it. it looked totally easy and effortless but it's the sort of thing Hamann used to do and never get recognised outside the club enough for either. I wish he'd be a bit louder sometimes though, he's so level headed and works so damn hard and such a team player on and off the pitch that if he would be a great captain if a bit more vocal

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To bad lads.

Would have loved to encounter you guys instead of unknown East-European clubs who park the busses most of the time.

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this is just a continuation of the story of the season - one **** up that leaves us just short of a what we need

compared with where we've been over the last 2 seasons, I'll take that.

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Great effort that, sounded like a great atmosphere gutted I wasn't there. Only criticism was Brendans two subs when we'd just scored. Daft to say the least.

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To bad lads.

Would have loved to encounter you guys instead of unknown East-European clubs who park the busses most of the time.

You certainly won't get that from Zenit, not a defensive team. Shambles though and should be doing better with their players.

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11 wins gets us 72 points maximum, and its usually around 68 plus to be in contention for top 4 so its a massive ask unfortunately. Would take a ridiculous improvement in form to make it so I am thinking we can get top 6 ahead of Everton and we will end up with around 62 points which is 10 better than last season.

Lets just hope its Chelsea v Man City in the FA Cup Final.

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Nice try lads :thup: Didn't see the game but it's great to see an English club fighting hard and almost winning it from so far down.

It seems like it's coming together for you on the pitch under Rogers. If you finish strongly I can see you being much, much better for the 2013/14 season.

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You certainly won't get that from Zenit, not a defensive team. Shambles though and should be doing better with their players.

aye, definitely a nice team to watch as a neutral, will try and catch a bit more of them.

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11 wins gets us 72 points maximum, and its usually around 68 plus to be in contention for top 4 so its a massive ask unfortunately. Would take a ridiculous improvement in form to make it so I am thinking we can get top 6 ahead of Everton and we will end up with around 62 points which is 10 better than last season.

Yeah 4th is realistically too far, would be fantastic to be challenging for 5th come last weekend. one positive is that us to win will be the lowest odds in every one of our remaining games. The 2nd half of the season table will also be interesting, got a decent chance of getting 3rd in that. Obviously relatively meaningless as far as this season goes but a decent indicator for next season

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Yeah 4th is realistically too far, would be fantastic to be challenging for 5th come last weekend. one positive is that us to win will be the lowest odds in every one of our remaining games.

It is to far, but it is a typical case of looking at the fixtures we have left and saying 'we should be winning this game and that game'. I'd be happy if we remain unbeaten until the end of the season personally.

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In terms of you lot winning all your games and getting 72 points, it is achievable or near abouts (i.e. 68 points). Just getting that 4th spot is not a case of chasing one team down, it's chasing 3 teams down so would be outrageously difficult. Hopefully you boys finish above Everton though. As Everton always waste a European spot as shown when they finished 4th.

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really we are chasing down 4 teams but for two spots. chelsea right back in this atm. but yeah thats the big thing, you look at those teams' fixtures and you can see all of them dropping some points, but it's unlikely chelsea, spurs and arsenal will all crash enough for us to catch all of them

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In terms of you lot winning all your games and getting 72 points, it is achievable or near abouts (i.e. 68 points). Just getting that 4th spot is not a case of chasing one team down, it's chasing 3 teams down so would be outrageously difficult. Hopefully you boys finish above Everton though. As Everton always waste a European spot as shown when they finished 4th.

I'd protest...

...if we weren't such a crap cup team :D

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That second one :O

Lovely bend. Does anyone know if he was as deadly with free kicks at Ajax? Such a game changer with the ball at his feet in open play and from dead ball situations. Paramount Liverpool keep hold of him if they're to challenge top 4 and league in the next 3 years.

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Suarez is getting close to Torres love for me.

Torres who?

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Someone on twitter saying Shelvey was out on the **** 2 nights before the game.

well i for one am shocked at this. i hear henderson was out for a christmas dinner in december too, the scumbag.

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Wow, seems like such a long time ago, always a shame when a talented player loses his way during what should be his best years.

Even at the time I strongly felt he should have stayed with you lot as he was starting to come into form again...

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Yeah, I thought the only sub needed was Assaidi or Sterling on for Allen. Not because Allen was playing ***** but it was just starting to get a little bit congested in midfield with Lucas, Gerrard, Allen and then Henderson tucking in. Still no idea where Rodgers' love for Shelvey comes from. Slow footed, slow paced, slow thinking. Don't get it.

Fun game though. I started the night not that arsed really and ended up proper fist-pumping that Suarez 2nd free kick.

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That Torres video is still one of my favourite compilations - he was such a good player for us.

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Torres just looked so good in the red, the guy was born to play for us, shame about how he left. These days he just doesn't seem happy at all, maybe money isn't everything.

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He was unhappy before he left. Was utterly dire for us in his last 12-18 months. Not sure what's happened to him, but it's really sad to see such a great player laid to waste.

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well i for one am shocked at this. i hear henderson was out for a christmas dinner in december too, the scumbag.

So you think its ok to go out and get pissed out of your head 2 nights before a big game? considering it will affect your performance in training and your preparation for the game?

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