Deltaroad Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Glad we conceded that goal. Seems to have worken us up. Last 30mins has been all us. Can only see us winning. Hopefully we can keep the momentum going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Would like Rafael to start pushing up more into the space when it's available. We need more width from the fullbacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Bestie7 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Amazing that with the issues we've got with our fullbacks (namely they play like wingbacks) that they aren't getting forward when they now have the freedom to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 They don't realise that it isn't Carrick/Scholes/Giggs in front of them - actually got people who will run back and get the ball! Quite liking this formation - just needs the strikers to pull out wider to free some room. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Worried about the counter I reckon. Don't know where Evra was on the goal. Nowhere near his man but in no position to cut out the cross. Beyond that we've done ok, but we need more movement and a higher tempo around the box. Think Cleverley has been great, seems to be everywhere and involved in all our best work. Ando not quite as good tonight, but Fletcher looks back into his stride. Would think Welbeck would offer far more than Hernandez in this system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 I've been really impressed with our overall game, considering we're playing a new system. Few problems, fullbacks could get forward more, finishing poor (hello RvP) and some ******** defending. This we'll whack Nani on at about 65-70 minutes and stretch them when they're tired. Nice to see us camped in their half though, so much better for winning the ball back as our starting position is actually decent. Could and should be 3 up, hopefully as they tire Rooney will be able to influence more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Need a winger on. It's all well & good wanting Rafael to get forward more but he's having to cover for Ferdinands lack of pace. Ferdinand has been a couple of yards deeper then the other defenders all half. Seems the Spurs game has had an effect on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Bestie7 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 So you guys think the lack of winger is going to become a secondary formation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roseboy64 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Think Kagawa or Welbeck would be a better fit here instead of Hernandez. He's done decent enough so far mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Makes me laugh talking about using no wingers when we were moaning about buying too many of the damn things! Think it'll give us other options but remember 2 of them are injured atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Wingers aren't going to get any more joy, just need to pick up the pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Fantastic Rooney/RVP!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Great finish and great ball in too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Please lets not start sitting back now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 This Rooney-RVP partnership seems a bit crap Still laugh at the people who said Rooney would struggle to get back into the team after his injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Scores when he wants. Scores with WHAT he wants! "He scores HOW he wants" might be bit less of a mouthful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 This Rooney-RVP partnership seems a bit crap Still laugh at the people who said Rooney would struggle to get back into the team after his injury. TBF his body language is much better. A fit, interested Rooney is a cracking player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deltaroad Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Our wingers cannot cross a ball. Seems to run down the wing pull it back to the full back who knocks it inside to the midfielder The amount of time we have had half ass crosses and no one to win the headers. Even Valencia drilled in crosses don't doesn't always beat the first man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icelander83 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 This Rooney-RVP partnership seems a bit crap Still laugh at the people who said Rooney would struggle to get back into the team after his injury. He looked unfit and pretty ****. That he has come back in a completely different way than he started the season doesn't detract from the original thinking when he got injured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Chicharito! When will he learn... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Hernandez so stupid, not even close to being onside, saying that Rooney shouldn't have give it to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Is there a Jaap Stam kicking about in the Dutch leagues at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 If its a defender you want then Angelo Ogbonna is your man. Reports we watched him recently too. Does he look like he's escaped from a mental asylum and that he'll try and kick a hole through your chest if you try and score? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnabon09 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 RvP and Rooney working great together Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Hernandez! Wrong option - Welbz on for him would improve this formation a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 I want a psychotic hardman, but good, not like Skrtel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Van Persie took no prisoners there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Think this formation would work away from home as well (duh!) In the league when being pressed I mean.... - good possession and more space up front on the counter. Be good to see it at the weekend with a similar team...cue Giggs in CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Could do with someone replacing Fletch, poor guy looks knackered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Yup - made a huge difference tonight, also be good to rest Carrick, who's been a bit off recently I reckon. Think Cleverley and Ando have been good today (again). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
metal_guitarist Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Finally that little **** Aguirregaray is off the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ72 Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 DDG! Good to see him claim it rather than punch. and that! Got to be number 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Howard Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Not really meaningful in a game like this where the opposition just sits back but: Cleverley: Total Passes 108 % of Passes Long 7% Passing Accuracy 93% Fletcher Total Passes 131 % of Passes Long 18% Passing Accuracy 92% Rafael Total Passes 94 % of Passes Long 2% Passing Accuracy 98% Not too bad on the eye those stats! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Doesn't mean squat in other matches either. It's more an indication of what type of passes a player make rather than how good he is at passing per se. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 That first goal, watch the ball sail over Evra's head and then he basically just trots, hardly does a thing to even attempt to stop that cross coming in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leppard Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Evra is a liability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 3 points will do but **** that was boring. They had everyone defending in the box and we had no width. Was only ever going to be rubbish to watch. Opta @OptaJoe 7 - Robin van Persie has now scored 7 goals in all competitions this season, more than any other Premier League based player. Settled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I think they generally play like that anyway and once they got that goal it was like happy days, not a chance of anything else happening now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I like this new system. It doesn't lack width at all imo as people can provide it with just a bit of movement. With the players we have it will get goals eventually, they just need time to get used to it. Most importantly I think it is a much sounder tactic defensively than the 4-4-2 against good teams. Yeah, I'd've expected Anderson and Cleverley to be on opposite sides as both have experience playing in wider areas. Again, with Welbeck alongside RvP there should be even more width, though maybe Fergie is concerned that we'd lose a focal point. Our wingers cannot cross a ball. Seems to run down the wing pull it back to the full back who knocks it inside to the midfielder The amount of time we have had half ass crosses and no one to win the headers. Even Valencia drilled in crosses don't doesn't always beat the first man. Think that's a touch harsh, but there is a concern that we're not overly strong in the air up front, so getting balls in from wide areas at deep, strong, tall defenders doesn't often reap rewards. Hernandez so stupid, not even close to being onside, saying that Rooney shouldn't have give it to him. Bit harsh that Hernandez made his run and Rooney opted not to use him or waited too long. Hernandez was waiting for the move to progress before making another run. Not really meaningful in a game like this where the opposition just sits back but:Cleverley: Total Passes 108 % of Passes Long 7% Passing Accuracy 93% Fletcher Total Passes 131 % of Passes Long 18% Passing Accuracy 92% Rafael Total Passes 94 % of Passes Long 2% Passing Accuracy 98% Not too bad on the eye those stats! To add to those, Rafael - 10221m covered; Cleverley 11335m; Fletcher 10932m. Fletch also completed 100% of his 23 long balls. 3 points will do but **** that was boring. They had everyone defending in the box and we had no width. Was only ever going to be rubbish to watch. Standard fare for the CL Group Stages then? Another promising enough showing tonight. Fine goal for the winner, nice to see an understanding building between Rooney and van Persie and another promising midfield showing from Fletcher and particularly Cleverley, if Anderson was a little quieter. Just need to sort that defence out, starting by keeping Big Save Dave in the position he deserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 We look so bad at things crossed in the box it's ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebsy Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 A win's a win, but another average at best performance. As Andrew above me says, we look terrible at defending crosses/corners and I fully expect the opponents to win the ball every time. And if offsides were hot dinners Hernandez could end famine all on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Bit harsh that Hernandez made his run and Rooney opted not to use him or waited too long. Hernandez was waiting for the move to progress before making another run. He didn't even bother to get back on the shoulder though, stood in no mans land 5m offside for a good 3 seconds, genuinely must have forgotten what he was doing for a second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldberg Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 And if offsides were hot dinners Hernandez could end famine all on his own. Not whilst Anderson is about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSB Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 He didn't even bother to get back on the shoulder though, stood in no mans land 5m offside for a good 3 seconds, genuinely must have forgotten what he was doing for a second. Looked to me as though he was expecting the (obvious) pass wide to Rafa which would have left him in behind the defence but onside for a square cross or pullback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddidiodion Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Not even sure we're talking about the same event here to be honest with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hursty2 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I love how Big Save Dave goes off at Evans when they score, I didn't see Lindegaard do that at the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangaea Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Not whilst Anderson is about. FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham_aka_stam Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Looked to me as though he was expecting the (obvious) pass wide to Rafa which would have left him in behind the defence but onside for a square cross or pullback. This. He even looked over the shoulder to Rafael. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfmdaily Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Once again Van Persie was decisive and save Manchester United from a negative result. Van Persie only costs €20M and immediately start producing, maybe the best transfer of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 Apparently as part of a 4-nation Asian tour next summer you will play a Thai All-Star team in Bangkok on a date to be confirmed between 10th-27th July Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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