jimmertime Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 admit I never tried 3-man defence in FM13 but will def give this tactic a go! my experience with FM13 is I have surprisingly managed to create solid tactics defensively (despite being very offensive 4-3-2-1 or 4-2-3-1 in my mind lol), but can't seem to get the attack going. Things I had success with in previous FM - most notably inside forwards running with ball often + killer pass for quick lone striker beating offside trap - have failed big time for me! waiting for hough's tactic esp to learn more about new ME Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 just lost my first game, Only a cup game so not really that bothered, On a plus note beating Liverpool 4-0 at half time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 admit I never tried 3-man defence in FM13 but will def give this tactic a go!my experience with FM13 is I have surprisingly managed to create solid tactics defensively (despite being very offensive 4-3-2-1 or 4-2-3-1 in my mind lol), but can't seem to get the attack going. Things I had success with in previous FM - most notably inside forwards running with ball often + killer pass for quick lone striker beating offside trap - have failed big time for me! waiting for hough's tactic esp to learn more about new ME Wingers aren't great neither is 2 or 3 striker formations, Lone AMC are really awesome teamed with a ST, Remember you want your AMC to be the link between midfield and ST so you don't want his mentality too high or the opposition will pick him up too easily and close him out of the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
underkiller Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Happy Days Mr Houg, looking forward to test your tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmertime Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Wingers aren't great neither is 2 or 3 striker formations, Lone AMC are really awesome teamed with a ST, Remember you want your AMC to be the link between midfield and ST so you don't want his mentality too high or the opposition will pick him up too easily and close him out of the game well my offensive strategies often rely on wrong-footed AMR/L being my main playmakers, which is actually not working great for me in FM13. Always tend to favor lone striker formations and like the idea of a superstar AMC playmaker so looking forward to learn from your tactic I also guess the side MC's will be box-to-box type of midfielders making the occasional forward run without the ball? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 well my offensive strategies often rely on wrong-footed AMR/L being my main playmakers, which is actually not working great for me in FM13.Always tend to favor lone striker formations and like the idea of a superstar AMC playmaker so looking forward to learn from your tactic I also guess the side MC's will be box-to-box type of midfielders making the occasional forward run without the ball? Something i always tend to do is try one thing and if its not working and i can clearly see it not working I'll try the complete opporsite and see how i do then. Maybe something you can try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Going unbeaten with Everton and Tottenham is a good achievement, I think this one is better.... Newcastle after 17 games 16 wins 1 draw 15 points clear already!!! Newcastle Squad Newcastle Fixtures. 92% win rate for me, Decent Manager i guess... As You can see i have now done 3 separate tests with the tactic all massively exceeding expectations. I forgot to mention my last game against Arsenal, I won them 3-0 and they had 1 shot all game, Defence is good too...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornakon Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 mr hough, when you think the tactic is ready? cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornakon Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 i want to test it haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 It'll be out today i'm confident in that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornakon Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Allright, it' sound great :=) nice to have you back in fm2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 It'll be out today i'm confident in that Ow Yes! you make a new thread for the tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Ow Yes! you make a new thread for the tactic? Yeah i'll be making a new thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dungxboxus Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 can't wait, i tried many tatics but lose it all =)) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrylv2 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 looking forward to this .. same i just cant seem to buy a win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiebird Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I was having a good time with my own tactic and was even thinking about uploading it here, but there's sometimes a distinct lack of goals and despite the opposition rarely threatening, we seem to concede a lot of silly penalties out of nothing and end up losing or drawing games we should win comfortably.(mines a 4-1-2-2-1). Have been looking forward to Mr Hough's tactic though, although the formation is not one of my favourites, results ARE, so will be keeping an eye out for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornakon Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 no tactic from 2012 version works on fm 2013? :s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneColdA Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 My story. I have been making a tactic exactly like the one you are making here. My idea was to start with Barcelona, to have the best players available. Then when the tactic was working as intended move on to another less profilistic team. It has been made using the tactics creator, and then afterwards I have been altering some settings. The setup for me is: --------GK---------- ---BPD(d)-DC©-BPD(d)--- WBR(a)-------------WBL(a) ---APM(s)-BWM(d)-APM(s)--- -------ATM(a)--------- ------ADF/Poa(a)------ Tanslated into players it is like this: --------Valdes---------- ---masch-puyol-pique--- Alves-------------Alba ---Xavi-Busquets-Iniesta--- -------Messi--------- ------Villa------ Fluid/standard approach. Zonal marking. Defensive line two notches above normal, width normal, tempo first notch of normal. I would like to assume this transparents pretty well Barca, with the two wing backs bombing forward (I have them on hugs touchline and pretty high mentality). The outcome: - Problems creating clear cut chances. I see lots of possesion where I have 6-7 players in their box together with their 8-9 defenders. So it gets too crowded. My players try to work the ball over the line (guess its not that far from IRL with barca). - Generally pretty solid defence. Opponents get their goals on set pieces or errors in general. - Problems scoring more than 1-2 goals. I really struggle. I have games where I create 8 chances and games where I create 30 chances. Around half of my chances are long shots despite contrary settings, and half of the chances I get do not get inside the posts. I really look forward seeing and hearing what you do differently, as the formation is clearly the same. Im eager to hear how you create your chances and how you make your build up play as I think this is my problem now. I have of course tried a lot of settings, and tried very slow passing and very direct passing, the latter seems to be worse for me as the ball is just thrown away too fast all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohann88260 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 God exists, it is Mr Hough ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadedEagle Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Wow, I really want to try this tactic out. Is it a plug and play-tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohann88260 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Yes tactic classic =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmertime Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Something i always tend to do is try one thing and if its not working and i can clearly see it not working I'll try the complete opporsite and see how i do then. Maybe something you can try. you're right, I tend to stick with some tactical concepts (eg back four defence, short passing, inside forwards) because I like them irl and want to replicate them in FM but I should be more open-minded I guess 3-man defence for example is something I wouldn't even try to implement normally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoOSTAR Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 These results are just insane Dave. So confident that this tactic will save my FM-enjoyment. I really can't wait for release, I'm glad you make it happen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthmael Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Looking good as always! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The reason i like the idea of 3 at the back is because you can have a strong central defender like vidic and then two ball playing defenders either side of him, like Ferdinand, Bochetti, Vermaelen and you can even slot in defensive minded midfielders like carrick, song and mascherano. Also not only does a 352 get the best out of wingbacks like rafael, cole, evra etc but you can also play your hardworking wingers in the wing back positions such as valencia, park, marchisio etc. It also gives the attack three focal points, the first being the wingbacks, who unmarked can rip the opposition to shreds out wide, the second being through the centre with the amc and 2 outer cm's looking to thread through balls through the middle to the single striker. The third is the less so obvious deep lying play of the two outer cb's who may look to launch attacking balls from the defence. It's a beautiful formation and allows for so much versatility and variety! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
conky30 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 It'll be out today i'm confident in that Any idea on what time Mr Hough. Eager to give this one a Whirl asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Any idea on what time Mr Hough. Eager to give this one a Whirl asap. Jst giving it a final test now, Then i'm gonna write the OP up and get it out, Not sure what time though after 6 i'd proberly say check back to see Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoOSTAR Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Jst giving it a final test now, Then i'm gonna write the OP up and get it out, Not sure what time though after 6 i'd proberly say check back to see Final test with which team? I hope you keep us up to date, but I'm sure you will! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
conky30 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Cheers Mr Hough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky-mark Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Would be great if it was out before 7:45pm that way i could use it will the mighty Celtic pump Barce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHUMJA Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 waiting and waiting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasCro Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 waiting and waiting... It's not even close to 6, its 3 o clock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyCaptain Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 It's quarter to 6pm in here. But of course Dave meant his time zone, we're +2 in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyer Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I'm pretty sure its going to be worth the wait peeps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Hey Hough, good to see you again. Looking forward to this. I'm finding defending is silly easy in FM13, but goal scoring is not as easy. I'm winning a lot of matches 2-0 and 1-0 and have only conceded 4 goals in my first half a season...but I'm not getting impressive results. So I look forward to seeing what you've come up with Good luck mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigslopper Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 This is more exciting than waiting for the actual game come out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubisch Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Hopefullt it will work with bad teams to, and not only those in the name of Tottenham, Newcastle etc. Looking so much forward to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMFC Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Can't wait to start a new career with the Montreal Impact and these 3 at the back : Nelson Rivas - Nesta - Ferrari !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trrude Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Playing Dave's tactics for years and i think he creates the best for every year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypertoon Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 looking forward to trying it out... its very similar to two formations I used last year. 4-2-2-2 ( with a second mc instead of the 3rd fc) and 4-2-1-1-2 the same 4-2-1 as described above but with an omc instead of a 3rd striker... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immj Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 can't wait to see mr houghs new tactic in 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khoahq Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 sound good bro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doomdayer Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Dave good luck on your tactic man, you have allways been a wizard. I will give it a go with my chelsea save and post results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Just writing up the OP now, shouldn't be too long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elio Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 just writing up the op now, shouldn't be too long greatttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHUMJA Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 been trying all the other tactic on this forum nothing seem to work too well except the tactic upload by fuss but second season starting to lose most game..really weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
top man Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 it's all gone quiet ! you can tell every one is waiting and pressing the F5 key to refresh the page for when Mr Hough puts his tactic up lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickel Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 It has been up for some time now . http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/327286-Mr-Hough-FM13-First-Patch-Tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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