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Gaming Laptops (Your Experience & Recommendations)

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I bought my 'gaming laptop' about 4 or 5 years ago, it cost £550 and it ran pretty much all the games I liked playing at the time amazingly well. Looking at gaming laptops in 2012 and the specs needed to run todays games, you're looking at £1200 minimum, with a similar spec desktop £300-£400 cheaper. So I sort of agree that for gaming these days, laptops are a bad idea. Purely for playing low spec games like FM though, I'm pretty sure the OP can get something relatively cheap.

Anyone got any experience with mini-PC's? Are they worth it for those stuck for space?

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[quote name='Wakers']You have no problems now, running games on high/max settings. Wait a year - what do you do then when you get annoyed at a lack of performance?[/QUOTE]

My laptop is 3 years old in a couple of months. Not annoyed yet. When I do get annoyed, I'll buy a better one. Please, stop this bickering - have respect for what the thread is about.

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MSI gaming series is good. Mine is 5 years old now and still going strong and runs FM easily and diablo 3 averagely. Only cost 800 which wasnt too painful.

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[quote name='thomit']Are they equipped with exactly the same hardware though? (Spec'd). I have never seen a Clevo build with similar hardware as an Alienware come out more expensive. Quite the contrary, and usually by a large margin. If you want to compare prices, you have to compare exactly the same hardware and screen sizes. That is the price of the laptops themselves though; how much you have to pay for financing, between these shops and Dell (Alienware), I have no idea.[/QUOTE]

My point was that a laptop that costs 1,300 on each particular website is overpriced, except for Alienware. I'm thinking that if I spend 2,100 on Alienware then I would get the same as I would for the one on PCSpecialist.

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[quote name='PPPPPPPPPPPP10']I used to be a desktop user until early 2000s when I started using gaming laptop for "portability" reason. A couple of things I learned

- There's no such thing as a "gaming" laptop if you're a gamer :p, the best gaming laptop can barely scratch what a proper gaming desktop can do. Heat will be the biggest reason... even if a gaming laptop is equipped with the best graphic card that graphic card will NEVER reach it's maximum potential since that kind of card generate a huge amount of heat and at least for now there's no cooler for laptop that can compensate that... the graphic card will throttle down because of the heating problem using only a fraction of what it could do in desktop.

- portability in gaming laptop is a silly idea since they're usually bulky and heavy and on batteries alone will last 1-2 hours typically when you're playing game... unless you want to bring your adapter around xD... which make it even heavier and messy and... ugh forget it :p[/QUOTE]

As i've already said, I can't get a desktop computer and your opinion on gaming laptops is null and void. The fact is I can only get a laptop and i'm looking for the best one to get, but so far I haven't found one.

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Instead of paying such high interest rates on the finance through the websites, why don't you get a credit card with a lot lower APR?

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Might I suggest looking into ultrabooks rather than gaming laptops?

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Do you know any ultrabooks that can play games properly, Wakers? Because I think that is exactly what the OP is after - a laptop that is good for playing games on.

Of small(ish) laptops, I'm aware of the Alienware 14-incher, their now defunct 11-incher, and Clevo's 11-incher (I'm not sure any brit dealer is going to stock that one).
These can play games quite ok, but ultrabooks? Hmm ...

[URL="http://www.anandtech.com/show/5812/eurocom-monster-10-clevos-little-monster"]Link[/URL] Like this one, the Clevo W110ER. The Nvidia GT 650M card is as good as it gets at this size. Too bad it's not the GDDR5 version, which is even better.

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Didn't see any merit in creating a new topic when I could bump this one.

In terms of the HDD's relevance to overall performance, is there a blatant difference between a 500GB at 5200RPM and 500GB at 7200RPM?

Similarly to above, how significant a deficit is there between 8GB of RAM at 1333MHz and 8GB of RAM at 1600 MHz?

If a dual core processor and a quad core processor have the same GHz, is it true that the quad core isn't necessarily quicker?

Would a modern video card such as GeForce GTX 670M function on old games, such as Total War, Age Of Empire, Civilization, etc. games from the past decade or so?

Are all high spec / "gaming laptops" prone to overheating? If so, what is the magnitude of it? Are you only able to play something for a couple of hours before the laptop overheats? Might such a machine crash and burn if, whether by accident or negligence, it is left running all day? Might less rpm in the HDD be a factor here?

How long do these laptops last? Not how long until they're obsolete, as I understand that even the best models don't stay on top for long, but roughly how long until they might stop functioning? A few years? Several years? Up to a decade? Depends (and if so, on what)?

Last but not least, might there be anyone out there who has picked up a Vortex III from [url]http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk[/url], and if so, how has it been for you?

Would be very grateful for any clarity. Thank you!

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I have the Dell Inspiron N5050 and FM runs brilliantly

I load these leagues

England - League 2 and above
Scotland - Third Division and above
France - Ligue 2 and above
Spain - Liga Adelante and above
Germany - 2.Bundesliga and above
Italy - Serie B and above
Portugal - Liga Portugesa
Russia - Russian Premier
Brazil - Liga do Brasil
Argentina - Premier Division
USA - MLS

Large Database

Runs very smoothly

you can get for under £400

[url]http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/technology/computing/laptops_and_netbooks/list.html?hnav=4294960188&sort=default&fnav=4294903104&med=srch&esrc=google&cmp=Dell+N5050&adg=Dell+N5050&kw=dell%20inspiron%20n5050&stkt=generic[/url]

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[quote name='Validicus']Didn't see any merit in creating a new topic when I could bump this one.

In terms of the HDD's relevance to overall performance, is there a blatant difference between a 500GB at 5200RPM and 500GB at 7200RPM?[/quote]

Generally, 7,200 rpm drives are quicker but not that much quicker. You do need to look at the underlying specification of the drives, though. If the two drives are advertised as being the same price, alarm bells should ring as it implies the 7,200 rpm drive is rubbish. Like a processor's clock speed, the number of rotations per minute is not the only thing you need to look at.

But generally speaking, 7,200 rpm drives are quicker (especially for small files), but come at the expense of higher power consumption and more heat dissipation. I'd personally get 7,200 rpm or and SSD if budget allows, and 5,400 rpm only if I need to be on the move a lot.

[quote name='Validicus']Similarly to above, how significant a deficit is there between 8GB of RAM at 1333MHz and 8GBof RAM 1600 MHz?[/quote]

Generally speaking this doesn't really add much of a boost - with Sandy Bridge, it's something like a 2% difference: [url]http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3/5[/url]

That being said, it's usually a small price difference so it might be worth getting 1,600 MHz. But I wouldn't lose my head over 1,333 MHz.

If you are getting less than 8 GB, it might be better getting 1,600 MHz as you can upgrade to 8 GB in a few years and the difference in price between the two speeds will be less (i.e. if you have 4 GB 1,333 MHz, then the price difference between 8 GB 1,600 MHz and 8 GB 1,333 MHz in the future will be very little, but you will have to sell your 4 GB module(s) first).

[quote name='Validicus']If a dual core processor and a quad core processor have the same GHz, is it true that the quad core isn't necessarily quicker?[/quote]

Generally-speaking, unless it's an Intel dual-core vs AMD quad-core, the quad-core will generally always be quicker because dual-core processors are budget options nowadays - not because of the number of cores. The Intel-AMD comparison exists because AMD generally has more cores (their latest chip has 8 cores, but doesn't outperform Intel's quad-core processors).

You should get a quad-core nowadays.

[quote name='Validicus']Would a modern video card such as GeForce GTX 670M function on old games, such Total War, Age Of Empire, Civilization, etc. games from the past decade or so?[/quote]

It might struggle on Total War and possibly Civilization V on high/ultra-settings.

[url]http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-670M.72197.0.html[/url]

[quote name='Validicus']Are all high spec / "gaming laptops" prone to overheating? If so, what is the magnitude of it? Are you only able to play something for a couple of hours before the laptop overheats? Might such a machine crash and burn if, whether by accident or negligence, it is left running all day? Might less rpm in the HDD be a factor here?[/quote]

Most computers nowadays never allow it to get to the crash-and-burn stage, as they shut down before it gets that far. Prone to overheating? You'll need to look at the build quality, really, and keep your laptop clean.

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I've just bought this laptop [url]http://www.laskys.com/computing/laptops_and_pdas/laptops/asus_x53sd_sx189v.html[/url]

Hoping it will run FM like a dream well can't be worse than my last laptop that could barely handle one league. I think I done the best I could for my budget really.

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Thank you very much for the clarity, x42bn6!

I'm still undecided about the processor. I'm just wondering what exactly it means if the quad core is "not supported" by an application. e.g. With something like Football Manager only supporting dual core, which of these two processors would run it better? Quad core i7-3720QM 2.60GHz with 6MB cache, or dual core i7-2640M 2.80GHz with 4MB cache? Genuine question, I'm oblivious.

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[quote name='Validicus']Thank you very much for the feedback, x42bn6!

I'm still undecided about the processor. I'm just wondering what exactly it means if the quad core is "not supported" by an application. e.g. With something like Football Manager only supporting dual core, which of these two processors would run it better? Quad core i7-3720QM 2.60GHz with 6MB cache, or dual core i7-2640M 2.80GHz with 4MB cache? Genuine question, I'm oblivious.[/QUOTE]Remember that your operating system runs alongside Football Manager. So there is no point in getting a dual-core "just for Football Manager". Windows 7 appreciates the additional cores, even if Football Manager doesn't.

The i7-3720QM is much quicker. Much, much quicker. It doesn't mean you should get it, though. You need to shop around.

[url]http://www.notebookcheck.net[/url] does benchmarks for mobile CPUs and GPUs, so you can use those to gauge.

i.e. [url]http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-3720QM-Notebook-Processor.73455.0.html[/url]

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So in lay terms, by virtue of the fact that Windows 7 appreciates it, it should be better than the aforementioned dual core even for FM / any application which doesn't support it? Or at the very least, would it not be worse? I think that's my main worry. I understand that it's a vastly superior processor and would be much better for the future / for games which will support quad core, but what about for the things that don't (and what exactly does it mean if a processor type is "not supported")?

Cheers again.

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[quote name='Validicus']So in lay terms, by virtue of the fact that Windows 7 appreciates it, it should be better than the aforementioned dual core even for FM / any application which doesn't support it? Or at the very least, would it not be worse? I think that's my main worry. I understand that it's a vastly superior processor and would be much better for the future / for games which will support quad core, but what about for the things that don't (and what exactly does it mean if a processor type is "not supported")?

Cheers again.[/QUOTE]In layman-terms, it means you should get a good computer and not just a computer that meets Football Manager's requirements. Of course, the minimum specification would be to meet Football Manager's requirements but don't expect it to blow you away with its speed.

I don't see anything needing a quad-core processor any time soon (and even the definition of "core" is blurred with AMD's processors) so I wouldn't worry about that. However, quad-core processors will generally be better than dual-core processors at multi-tasking, and you will be doing that a lot. Even having that option to do so is good.

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[quote name='Validicus']In terms of the HDD's relevance to overall performance, is there a blatant difference between a 500GB at 5200RPM and 500GB at 7200RPM?[/QUOTE]
There is a difference. Generally speaking, these days 7200RPM drives are performance disks while 5400RPM are green/low-power designs. In a build favoring mobility and battery life, the latter can make more sense. Either way, if your budget allows it I'd say get an SSD. Faster, cooler, quieter and more durable, but considerably more expensive per GB.

[quote name='Validicus']Similarly to above, how significant a deficit is there between 8GB of RAM at 1333MHz and 8GB of RAM at 1600 MHz?[/QUOTE]
Practically none.

[quote name='Validicus']If a dual core processor and a quad core processor have the same GHz, is it true that the quad core isn't necessarily quicker?[/QUOTE]
Yes. It depends on how the application is question handles threading (i.e. splits up its workload over multiple cores). You're probably better off comparing specific CPU's in specific price ranges than thinking in these general terms though; there's no good rule of thumb to go by that isn't going to be full of exceptions when it comes down to comparing actual products.

[quote name='Validicus']Would a modern video card such as GeForce GTX 670M function on old games, such as Total War, Age Of Empire, Civilization, etc. games from the past decade or so?[/QUOTE]
Sure. Google for benchmarks if you're curious about specific performance levels. Backwards compatibility is a non-issue in terms of hardware.

[quote name='Validicus']Are all high spec / "gaming laptops" prone to overheating? If so, what is the magnitude of it? Are you only able to play something for a couple of hours before the laptop overheats? Might such a machine crash and burn if, whether by accident or negligence, it is left running all day? Might less rpm in the HDD be a factor here?[/QUOTE]
If used on a hard surface with working fans and unblocked exhausts, they really won't overheat. They just get hot and loud. Overheating usually only becomes an issue some ways down the line when effective ventilation can become an issue (bad fans, dust build-up) or when people put them on soft pillows/whatever that absorb heat and/or cover exhaust cut-outs.

[quote name='Validicus']How long do these laptops last? Not how long until they're obsolete, as I understand that even the best models don't stay on top for long, but roughly how long until they might stop functioning? A few years? Several years? Up to a decade? Depends (and if so, on what)?[/QUOTE]
Batteries tend to go first, within a few years commonly. You'll see gradually degrading performance over that time in terms of how long their charge will last. Apart from that, they're really not going to break from pure component wear for a long time, longer than you'll want to keep using them. At worst you may run into a failing fan. Handling damages are going to be the real worry, especially if it's kind of a plasticky, cheap build quality to the chassis. Pressure to the lid damaging the screen is a common problem. Good laptop reviews will rate this aspect.

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depends on:
1- your budget ?
2- which screen size you want, 13.3 or 14 or 15.6 ? ( Mobility reasons )
3- if you like better battery life or not ? ( Mobility reasons )

if you kindly provide me these answer, i could help.

but my first recommendation, avoid very cheap lap-tops, you hardly get quality with it, a huge gamble. I've already used about 7-8 laptops in last ten years :D

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[quote name='Spurs_Q8']depends on:
1- your budget ?
2- which screen size you want, 13.3 or 14 or 15.6 ? ( Mobility reasons )
3- if you like better battery life or not ? ( Mobility reasons )

if you kindly provide me these answer, i could help.

If you're around and still willing to make any suggestions:

but my first recommendation, avoid very cheap lap-tops, you hardly get quality with it, a huge gamble. I've already used about 7-8 laptops in last ten years :D[/QUOTE]

1) £2k.
2) Not too fussed / I'm rarely going to be taking it anywhere at any point.
3) As above.

Cheers. :D

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@ Scab: I have to get a laptop due to the fact I have nowhere In my living room to put a computer. If it wasn't for my massive corner sofa and my 42" TV then I would have...

Just get a decent desktop and connect to tv, that's what i did and on plus point desktops are lot easier to upgrade

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If you don't have room for a computer because of a TV, why have you spent all that money on a 42" TV? You're likely not sat far enough away to get the best quality out of it.

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Pretty much certain i'd rather have a 42" TV and a laptop than a desktop whilst watching a handheld tv. Sometimes you post without thinking

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[quote name='kccircle']Pretty much certain i'd rather have a 42" TV and a laptop than a desktop whilst watching a handheld tv.[/QUOTE]

What sort of leap in logic is that? :D

I didn't say he should get a handheld tv you numpty, I said he should consider getting one that is appropriate to his room. I.e. if he sits less than two metres away it probably shouldn't be over 34".

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[quote name='Wakers']If you don't have room for a computer because of a TV, why have you spent all that money on a 42" TV? You're likely not sat far enough away to get the best quality out of it.[/QUOTE]

I inherited this house, including the tv after my dad died? The tv is across the room, so yes I am sat far enough away!

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[quote name='Tactic Master']I inherited this house, including the tv after my dad died? The tv is across the room, so yes I am sat far enough away![/QUOTE]

That's fair enough then! :)

It wouldn't have been the first time someone has a small living room with a giant TV that looks like a pixeled mess unless you watch it from outside :p

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[quote name='hkdavey']@ Scab: I have to get a laptop due to the fact I have nowhere In my living room to put a computer. If it wasn't for my massive corner sofa and my 42" TV then I would have...

Just get a decent desktop and connect to tv, that's what i did and on plus point desktops are lot easier to upgrade[/QUOTE]

I have thought about this, but my tv stand doesn't have room for one I don't think, unless I got a really small tower.

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I have an Asus N55sf my last laptop was an Asus, my next laptop will be an asus. Anyone that asks, i'll recommend an Asus.

Asus aren't the cheapest, but they aren't the most expensive either. The build quality is good (just make sure you get the MATT screen, as the do like glossy screens sometimes which aren't great)

My laptop came with a dual graphics Intel HD3000 and Nvidia Geforce 2gb card and when programmes switch between the two, it is seemless (although you may need to download the ;latest drivers)

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Are there any 3610QM or 3720QM users out there who are willing to comment on how well these processors run on a CPU demanding application like FM?

Would love to hear from anyone who runs high 3d settings on their laptops - what GPU & CPU do you use?

Cheers! :D

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i recently bought a refurbed dell inspiron 15r 5110 from the dell outlet website for £370

spec-

i5 2450m processor
geforce gt525m graphics
15.6" screen
3gb ram
350gb hdd

i plan on upgrading the ram and hardrive soon but the current is seems good enough for fm2012, fifa11, sid meiers pirates, sims 3, fable and psx emulator, their the games i have installed.

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are you sure you can upgrade the HDD on that model?

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not sure tbh im sure i can find a way :)

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Hi Validicus i havent got anything that high but i run fm 12 on this;

Chassis & Display Viper III: 18.4" Glossy Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor i7-2760QM (2.40GHz) 6MB

Memory (RAM) 8GB SAMSUNG 1333MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (2 x 4GB)

Graphics Card 2 x 1.5GB nVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560M - DirectX® 11 (SLI)

Memory - 1st Hard Disk 500GB SEAGATE MOMENTUS XT HYBRID, SATA 3 Gb/s, 32MB CACHE (7200 rpm)
2nd Hard Disk 500GB WD SCORPIO BLACK WD5000BPKT, SATA 3 Gb/s, 16MB CACHE (7200 rpm)

it runs fairly fast with 3D on full. had it about 8 months good machine.

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I run FM12on my Acer Aspire 5536 which I brought about 2-3years ago and have no probs at all,even run 26 leagues with medium database,only cost me £350from PCworld and had no probs with it at all so its not always the expensive laptops are always the best.

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I will be buying this in a couple of weeks not a gaming laptop as such but will do the job [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pavilion-dm4-3002ea-Entertainment-Beats-Edition/dp/B007G97HSQ/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1339932032&sr=8-10[/url].

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[quote name='JojoVillaHursty']I will be buying this in a couple of weeks not a gaming laptop as such but will do the job [URL]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pavilion-dm4-3002ea-Entertainment-Beats-Edition/dp/B007G97HSQ/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1339932032&sr=8-10[/URL].[/QUOTE]

Just an FYI, that's not really any better than the machine someone else is buying for £500 in the general laptop thread. Check it out.

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I would suggest Novatech but they don't have any financing methods. I'd suggest you take out a credit card if you wanted to follow such a route, they are generally much better as long as you are wise enough about using it. There are many that offer 0% interest over a period of time.

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Does the processor's cache make much difference on FM? i.e. Would there be any noticeable benefits between 8MB cache and 6MB cache?


[quote name='Martvb60']Hi Validicus i havent got anything that high but i run fm 12 on this;

Chassis & Display Viper III: 18.4" Glossy Full HD LED Widescreen (1920x1080)

Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Mobile Processor [B]i7-2760QM [/B](2.40GHz) 6MB

Memory (RAM) 8GB SAMSUNG 1333MHz SODIMM DDR3 MEMORY (2 x 4GB)

Graphics Card 2 x 1.5GB nVIDIA® GeForce® [B]GTX 560M[/B] - DirectX® 11 (SLI)

Memory - 1st Hard Disk 500GB SEAGATE MOMENTUS XT HYBRID, SATA 3 Gb/s, 32MB CACHE (7200 rpm)
2nd Hard Disk 500GB WD SCORPIO BLACK WD5000BPKT, SATA 3 Gb/s, 16MB CACHE (7200 rpm)
[B]
it runs fairly fast with 3D on full[/B]. had it about 8 months good machine.[/QUOTE]

Cheers, this was a big help. :thup:

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Hi am looking on buying a laptop and would just like to be able to run fm in 3d decent enough, also i only ever load 1 or 2 leagues up, what specs should i be looking for thanks

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looking at this laptop but not sure if it will handle fm smoothly i want one that will be able to run the next 2-3 versions if possible [url]http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/enigmaIII-520/[/url]
what do you guys think of this

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[quote name='welshace']again... depends on budget lfc...[/QUOTE]

Sorry about £300-500 any of these be ok

Toshiba L750-20R Core i3, 4GB RAM, 320GB Hard Drive, 15.6 inch Laptop - Silver

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Intel Core i3 processor
4Gb RAM
320Gb hard drive
15.6 inch HD LED-backlit (1366 x 768) display
DVD Super Multi drive
802.11 b/g WiFi
Built-in webcam
HDMI, 3x USB, multi-card reader
Toshiba L750D-20R laptop

Asus K53E Intel® Core™ i3 Processor 4Gb, 320Gb 15.6 inch Laptop - Red

Intel® Core™ i3-2350 processor
4Gb RAM
320Gb hard drive
15.6 inch HD LED-backlit display (1366 x 768)
DVD Super Multi drive
802.11 b/g/n WiFi
Webcam
Altec Lansing speakers
4-in-1 card reader
3x USB 2.0
HDMI
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium

Also is there any laptop below a i3 that would run fm fine in 3d with just one or two leagues ?

Thanks

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Or how about this one

Samsung RV515-S01UK AMD Dual Core Processor 4GB, 500GB 15.6 inch Laptop

Microsoft Windows® 7 Home Premium (64bit)
AMD Dual Core E450 (1.6Ghz, 1Mb) processor
4Gb DDR3 1333Mhz RAM
500Gb (5400rpm SATA) hard drive
15.6 inch LED HD (1366 x 768) 16:9 gloss Display
DVD (S-ATA) / Super Multi Dual Layer (S-ATA) drive
AMD Radeon HD6470m Integrated Graphics
802.11bg/n WiFi
Bluetooth V3.0 High Speed
0.3 Mp webcam

or

Samsung NP305VA-A05UK AMD A8 Processor 8Gb, 750Gb 15.6 inch Laptop

AMD A8-3530MX Quad-Core Processor.
8Gb DDR3 RAM.
750Gb S-ATAII Hard Drive.
15.6 inch HD LED Display (1366 x 768), Anti-Reflective.
DVD-R Drive.
AMD Radeon. HD6620G (APU) Shared Graphics.
802.11 bg/n WiFi, (up to 150Mbps / support Bluetooth V3.0 High Speed).
1.3 megapixel Webcam.
VGA, HDMI, Headphone-out, Mic-in, Internal Mic, 3 x USB 2.0.
Multi Card Slot 4-in-1 (SD, SDHC, SDXC, MMC), RJ45 (LAN), DC-In (Power Port).
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

or

Samsung NP300E5A-A0GUK Intel® Core™ i3 Processor 6Gb, 750Gb

Intel® Core i3- 2350m processor (2.40Ghz, 3Mb L3 cache)
6Gb DDR3 RAM
750Gb SATA hard drive
15.6in HD (1366 x 768) LED Anti-reflective Display
Super Multi Dual Layer drive
Integrated Intel graphics
802.11 b/g/n WiFi
Bluetooth 3.0
0.3Mp webcam
VGA, HDMI, 3 x USB 2.0 ports
6 Cell Battery
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium.

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I would go for this one:

Brand: ASUS
Colour: Black
Screen Size: 15.6 inches
Processor: Intel Core i7
Processor Model: i7-2670
Memory (RAM): 4 GB
Storage (hard drive): 500 GB
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium

[url]http://www.comet.co.uk/p/Laptops/buy-ASUS-X53E-SX1328V-Laptop/779709[/url]

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that is a silly good spec for the price...

or for the <£500 budget...

[url]http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_5750G_Core_i5_Laptop_LX.RXL02.108/version.asp[/url]

brilliant lappy for the price

and you could run any leagues you like :)

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Cheers lads thanks for the replies

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I've just bought an Asus G74SX with 16gb ram, it's unbelievably quick, getting through a season so quick now, never envisioned I could play the game so fast.

You could probably get one a bit cheaper now as they're about to release/just released (not sure which) the G75SX.

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I went all out for this----what a machine! but get a solid state intel hard drive(wow makes a massive difference it now boots from cold in 4 seconds desktop loaded/windows and I'm online)
I ;play with most nations no probs ram never goes above 30% and processor does job never at max use,and no need to overclock
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[SIZE=2][I]- Back Up Software: No Back Up Software[/I]
[I]- Battery: Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)[/I]
[I]- Bluetooth: Bluetooth Included (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)[/I]
[I]- Build Time: Standard Production Time[/I]
[I]- Camera: Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera[/I]
[I]- Car Adapter: No Car Adapter[/I]
[I]- Case: No Carrying Case[/I]
[I]- Dead Pixel Warranty: ASUS Zero Bright Dot (ZBD) 30 Day Pixel Guarantee - (Included on ASUS Standard NON-Upgraded Displays)[/I]
[/SIZE][I][SIZE=2]- Display: 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen [/SIZE](SKU - X1R354)[/I]
[SIZE=2][I]- Exterior Finish: Standard Finish[/I]
[I]- External Display Video Adapters: No Video Adapter[/I]
[I]- External Hard Drive (Back Up): No Back Up Hard Drive[/I]
[I]- External USB Optical Drive: NO External USB Optical Drive[/I]
[I]- Fingerprint Reader: No Fingerprint Reader[/I]
[I]- Floppy Drive: No Floppy Drive[/I]
[I]- Free Shipping: [B]FREE!! [/B]UPS GROUND SHIPPING (Use Coupon Code "FREESHIP" in Checkout - U.S. Only, Not Available to Alaska and Hawaii)[/I]
[/SIZE][I][SIZE=2]- Graphics Video Card: nVidia GeForce GTX 560M 2,048MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11[/SIZE] (SKU - X3R504)[/I]
[SIZE=2][I]- Headsets: No Headset[/I]
[I]- Memory Card Reader: Internal 8-in-1 Card Reader: MMC/SD/Mini-SD/XD/Memory Stick/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo[/I]
[I]- Microsoft Office Software: No Office Software[/I]
[I]- Monitor Calibration: NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration[/I]
[I]- Mouse / Keyboard Accessories: No External Keyboard or Mouse[/I]
[I]- Notebook Cooler: No Notebook Cooler[/I]
[I]- Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Pre-Installed + Drivers & Utilities Disk[/I]
[I]- Operating System - Clean Installation Option: Keep factory installed operating system[/I]
[/SIZE][I][SIZE=2]- Optical Drive Bay: [B]4X Blu-Ray Reader + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive[/B][/SIZE] (SKU - X7R502)[/I]
[SIZE=2][I]- Optical Drive Bay Hard Drive Caddy: No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy[/I]
[I]- OS Redline Boost: No Operating System Redline Boost[/I]
[I]- Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters: No Dock/Hub/Adapter[/I]
[/SIZE][I][SIZE=2]- Primary Hard Drive: 1,000GB (1TB) 5400RPM (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s)[/SIZE] (SKU - X5R351)[/I]
[I][SIZE=2]- Processor: 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-2860QM, 2.5-3.6GHz, (32nm, 8MB L3 cache)[/SIZE] (SKU - X2R209)[/I]
[I][SIZE=2]- Ram: 24GB DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2x4GB + 2x8GB SODIMMS) [/SIZE](SKU - X4N375)[/I]
[I][SIZE=2]- Second Hard Drive: 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache Buffer (Serial-ATA II 3GB/s) - Default [/SIZE](SKU - X5R205)[/I]
[SIZE=2][I]- Software Bundle (Not Installed): System bundled with Digital Creativity Suite 2012[/I]
[I]- Sound Card: Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included[/I]
[I]- Spare AC Adapter: No Spare AC Adapter[/I]
[I]- System Recovery Backup Disks: Yes, please create backup recovery DVD[/I]
[I]- Thermal Compound: Stock OEM Thermal Compound ( IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU Provided[B] FREE[/B] with Processor Upgrade!)[/I]
[I]- TV Tuner: No TV Tuner[/I]
[/SIZE][I][SIZE=2]- Warranty: 1 Year ASUS GLOBAL OEM Warranty 24/7 Support / 1 Year North America (N.A.) Accidental Coverage (Accidental Requires Registration)[/SIZE] (SKU - A9R101)[/I]
[I][SIZE=2]- Wireless Network: Intel® Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module (Includes 3rd Antenna)[/SIZE] (SKU - X8R108)[/I]
[SIZE=2][I]- Wireless Network Accessories: No Network Accessory[/I]
[I]- Xotic Gear: No Xotic PC Gear[/I]
[I]- XOTIC PC Redline Boost™ Extreme Performance: No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system[/I][/SIZE][/TD]
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