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Due to me being a bit silly and not backing the save up, the previous thread ended a bit early. For those who weren't involved and want to have a look this is the thread.

The aim is simple. You join a lower level team and stay there for 20 seasons to see how far you can take them. Future transfers are set so you won't be moving about, points are awarded depending on league placing, promotions and cup wins so we have a winner at the end of it all. A lot of things are not decided at this point so I have created the thread for people to sign up and join in with the discussion.

Now the previous game was in Norway. It was going okay but once teams got to the top they struggled to make a big impact and didn't look like winning the league. The options now are to go with an edited Northern Ireland database down to tier 7. Should give plenty of chances at league success as it is not a strong competition. Alternatively we could put them in an elite league pyramid and see what they can do up against the big guns.

All players will start at 17 year old. CA will be maxed to give the players a better shot at achieving some success. They will be retired from international football and have injury proneness set to 1 so they play as much as possible for the club. Anyone interested please complete the below template. Remember this is about how well the club does so best to select the position you think a player has the most influence on how a team performs.

First Name:

Second Name:

Nationality:

Position:

2nd Position: (Optional)

2 PPM:

3 Attributes at 20:

Height:

Weight:

Preferred Foot:

Also please add any comments on which league structure we should use.

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First Name: Messi

Second Name: Jr

Nationality: argentinian

Position: AMC

2nd Position: ST

2 PPM: Runs with ball often, tries killer balls often

3 Attributes at 20: dribbling, passing, agility

Height: 169cm

Weight: 66kg

Preferred Foot: Left

definately northern ireland and put the teams in the bottom division as well.

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I think Northern Ireland might be too weak, with too many teams progressing too quickly, but that could be a good thing.

First Name:Harold

Second Name:Kumar

Nationality:Indian

Position:Striker

2nd Position: AMC

2 PPM:Places Shots and Runs with ball often

3 Attributes at 20: Finishing, Dribbling, Composure

Height: 1.88 m

Weight: 74 kg

Preferred Foot: Right

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First Name:Steve

Second Name: Duffy II

Nationality: Scottish

Position: Striker

2nd Position: (Optional)

2 PPM:Places shots, likes to round keeper

3 Attributes at 20:Pace, Acceleration, Finishing

Height:180CM

Weight:78kg

Preferred Foot: Right only

Northen Ireland sounds fun :D

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First Name: Sercan

Second Name: Cali

Nationality: Turkey

Position: AMC

2nd Position: ST

2 PPM: Gets Forward Whenever Possible, Shoots with Power

3 Attributes at 20: Finishing, Technique, Passing

Height: 186

Weight: 78

Preferred Foot: Both (Left if not possible)Going with an AMC/ST this time around. Even though I'd like to see our players vs the big boys, they won't carry their team to higher echelons that's for sure. I'd say go for N. Ireland but the tier is up to you. Max CA will blow those levels anyway :)

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My set pieces CM didnt go well last time so try something different :p

First Name: Jake

Second Name: Stothard

Nationality: Sammarinese

Position: FC

2nd Position:

2 PPM: Likes to round the keeper, Likes to beat the offside trap

3 Attributes at 20: Finishing, Composure, Off the ball

Height: 210cm

Weight: 110kg

Preferred Foot: Either (Right if not)

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First Name: Vivian

Second Name: Zachariah

Nationality: Antigua & Barbuda

Position: MC

2nd Position: AMC

2 PPM: plays short simple passes, runs with ball often

3 Attributes at 20: Pace, Dribbling, Passing

Height: 208cm

Weight: 81Kg

Preferred Foot: Right

I think Belgium would be the ideal place to do this sign-up.

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First Name: Mark

Second Name: Miwordz

Nationality: Serbia

Position: AM©

2nd Position: (Optional)M©

2 PPM: Tries killer pass often, likes to lob keeper

3 Attributes at 20: Passing, Dribbling, Finishing

Height: 182

Weight: 62

Preferred Foot: Right

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First Name: Long tym

Second Name: Whicheva club i get

Nationality: Singapore

Position: Aml

2nd Position: st

2 PPM: Knocks ball past opponent likes to round keeper

3 Attributes at 20: Accelration, Dribbling, Finishing

Height: 196

Weight: 98

Preferred Foot: left

Get a database from the web to open up all English divisions that will keep us going for a while

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First Name: James

Second Name: Taylor

Nationality: Dutch

Position: AML

2nd Position: (Optional) AMC

2 PPM: Tries Killer Pass Often, Places Shots

3 Attributes at 20: Dribbling, Creativity, Passing

Height: 170

Weight: 62kg

Preferred Foot: Left

I like the idea of putting them into NI lower leagues. I think it'd be too hard in the English leagues.

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First Name: Edoardo

Second Name: Lorenzo

Nationality: Italian

Position: ML

2nd Position: MC

2 PPM: Arrives Late in Area, Tries First Time Shots

3 Attributes at 20: Creativity, Crossing, Long Shots

Height: 5' 10

Weight: 14 stone

Preferred Foot: Left

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First Name: Jimto

Second Name: Labowman

Nationality: Spanish

Position: MC

2nd Position: (Optional)

2 PPM: Tries Killer passes?, Dictates Tempo

3 Attributes at 20: Passing, Creativity, Influence

Height: 170cm

Weight: 80kg

Preferred Foot: Right

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First Name: Omar

Second Name: Brown

Nationality: Jamaican

Position: ST

2nd Position: (Optional) AMC

2 PPM: Tries Killer ball often, Run with ball often

3 Attributes at 20: Dribbling,Finishing,Flair

Height: 5'7

Weight: 160

Preferred Foot: Either

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I think Belgium would be the ideal place to do this sign-up.

Belgium was one of the places I considered for the first sign up. I like the funny league structure with all the play offs. I thought it was too strong a league in the end and decided against it. I am starting to think Ireland may be too weak a league now though and the players will just rush through the pyramid and dominate the top flight straight away. Don't think it will be interesting if they don't struggle a bit on the way up. Will have to do some test runs.

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Whole point isnt it to make a Challenge Hard ;)

It's a sign up, not a challenge. Don't want it too difficult to get to the top as people would lose interest. Needs the right balance.

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First Name: Marky

Second Name: Mark

Nationality: Portuguese

Position: ST

2 PPM: Marks Opponent Tightly, Stays back at all times

3 Attributes at 20: Tackling, Marking, Positioning

Height: 150cm

Weight: 80kg

Preferred Foot: Right

I like starting the players in Northern Ireland, whilst the players are obviously way too good for this league, it will be interesting to see how much of a difference 1 player can make to the team's overall performance.

Also, as you may have noted, I have picked a striker, but with defensive attributes and PPM - simply curious as to how that will effect him.

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First Name: Luis

Second Name: Van Der Bulli

Nationality: Dutch

Position: AML

2nd Position: (Optional) AMR

2 PPM: knocks ball past opponent, tries killer ball often

3 Attributes at 20: Acceleration, Determination, Crossing,

Height: 171cm

Weight: 82kg

Preferred Foot: Both

NI would be interesting! What about USA with all the drafts and Wierd set up might be cool

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First Name: Jose

Second Name: Gainza

Nationality: Cuban

Position: MC

2nd Position: (Optional) DMC

2 PPM: Simple Passes, Killer Balls Often

3 Attributes at 20: Positioning, Work Rate, Determination

Height: 180cm

Weight: 78kg

Preferred Foot: Left

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First Name: Mike

Second Name: Litorus

Nationality:English

Position: Striker

2nd Position: (Optional) AMC

2 PPM: Places shots, likes to beat offside trap

3 Attributes at 20: finishing composure anticipation

Height: 183cm

Weight: 75kg

Preferred Foot: right

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is the scottish system good to use or can you be relegated from division 3, also think the points system should stay the same as in the original sign up

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First Name: Gaston

Second Name: Martinez

Nationality: Argentinian

Position: Striker

2nd Position: (Optional)

2 PPM: Likes to round keeper and places shots

3 Attributes at 20: Pace, composure and finishing.

Height: 180cm

Weight: 70kg

Preferred Foot: Right

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First Name: Berko

Second Name: Ihejirika

Nationality:Niger

Position: GK

2nd Position: N/A

2 PPM: N/A

3 Attributes at 20: Communication, Positioning, Influence

Height: 194 cm

Weight: 77 kg

Preferred Foot: Right

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NI would be interesting! What about USA with all the drafts and Wierd set up might be cool

Problem with using US is there is no promotion in place so wouldn't be any rise to the top.

Can i just have the same player same stats.

i was crane

No problem

is the scottish system good to use or can you be relegated from division 3, also think the points system should stay the same as in the original sign up

Scottish system was always my first choice but there are only 10 teams in the bottom league so would restrict how many people can enter. I will be using the points system based on league finish from the previous game.

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Also the forum which I was going to download the N.Ireland expansion from appears to have changed. It's a French language forum and my French isn't great so I am stumbling through it at the moment. Looks like they have changed domain name though and haven't exported the posts from the other site. Will keep trying to figure it out though as Ireland looks the favourite amongst people at the moment.

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First Name: Geraint

Second Name: Alacarde

Nationality: Singaporean

Position: AMC

2nd Position: (Optional) MC

2 PPM: Tries Killer Balls Often, Gets into Opposition Area

3 Attributes at 20: Flair, First Touch, Passing

Height: 168

Weight: 63

Preferred Foot: Right

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First Name: Lord Henrik

Second Name: Van Haarlink III

Nationality: Barbadian

Position: MC

2nd Position: AMC

2 PPM: Run with ball often, Tries long shots. (Thats not going to go well.)

3 Attributes at 20: Freekick, Long Shots, Finishing

Height: 120cm

Weight: 45kg

Preferred Foot: Right

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I was looking around the same french website I think, and it doesn't have the Ireland expansion for FM12 on their new site. However using Google's cache I managed to find this link: http://www.fmstorie.net/upload/FM12/Updates/Irlande%20du%20Nord.zip

Brilliant, cheers :thup: Just downloaded it and it has loaded up okay. Will make a start on creating the players over the next day or two and run a test run for a few seasons to make sure no problems. We should be up and running within the week.

Is everyone happy starting in Ireland in the 5th tier? Don't want to go too low as it will take too long to get to the top division and challenge for titles but happy to do so if that is what people want.

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Sounds Great! I think I'm going to dominate second time round. At least I hope so!

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First Name: Herring-Herring

Second Name: Herring-Herring-Herring

Nationality: Faroe Islands

Position: centre mid

2nd Position: striker

2 PPM: runs with ball, attacks from deep (that is one isn't it?)

3 Attributes at 20: penalty taking, long shots, free kicks

Height: 204

Weight: 85

Preferred Foot: left

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First Name: Herring-Herring

Second Name: Herring-Herring-Herring

Nationality: Faroe Islands

Position: centre mid

2nd Position: striker

2 PPM: runs with ball, attacks from deep (that is one isn't it?)

3 Attributes at 20: penalty taking, long shots, free kicks

Height: 204

Weight: 85

Preferred Foot: left

No, it's not a PPM. There is arrives late in opposition area if that is the one you are thinking of

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First Name: Deep

Second Name: Throat

Nationality: Cambodian

Position: AMC

2nd Position: ST

2 PPM: Tries killer balls often, Shoots with power

3 Attributes at 20: Creativity, Passing, Teamwork

Height: 169 cm

Weight: 66 kg

Preferred Foot: Right

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First Name: Omar

Second Name: Brown

Nationality: Jamaican

Position: ST

2nd Position: (Optional) AMC

2 PPM: Tries Killer ball often, Run with ball often

3 Attributes at 20: Dribbling,Finishing,Flair

Height: 5'7

Weight: 160

Preferred Foot: Either

Is that 160kg or 160lb?

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i think he means lb as he did the height in feet. Also, I dont fancy someone who's 5'7 but weighs 160kg being a professional footballer!

Edit: his bmi would be 55, which for the record is morbidly obese!

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No, it's not a PPM. There is arrives late in opposition area if that is the one you are thinking of

yes please

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First Name: Steven

Second Name: Kemp

Nationality: English

Position: AMR

2nd Position: ST

2 PPM: Knocks ball past opponent, Plays one twos

3 Attributes at 20: Acceleration, Finishing, Dribbling

Height: 185cm

Weight: 80kg

Preferred Foot: Right

Followed the first thread, would love to be involved with this one.

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First Name: Lord Henrik

Second Name: Van Haarlink III

Nationality: Barbadian

Position: MC

2nd Position: AMC

2 PPM: Run with ball often, Tries long shots. (Thats not going to go well.)

3 Attributes at 20: Freekick, Long Shots, Finishing

Height: 120cm

Weight: 45kg

Preferred Foot: Right

Minimum height is 150cm and minimum weight is 55kg so have gone with that.

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Okay, no more players please. Everyone has been entered into the database at random 5th tier clubs now. I am going to let it run for a few hours now to make sure there are no problems. Once I'm happy everything is okay I will get the game thread up and running.

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First Name: Arawn

Second Name: Moridin

Nationality: Norwegian

Position: AMC

2nd Position:

2 PPM: Comes deep to get ball, Dribble through center

3 Attributes at 20: Decisions, dribbling, Off the ball

Height: 180

Weight: 75

Preferred Foot: Left

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