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Smallest Nations Clubs Enter English football: The return

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Smallest Nations Clubs Enter English football!

Way back on Football Manager 09 i ran this little experiment/bit of fun but i didn't leave too much time between starting it and FM10 coming out and well .. I feel like running it again but with plenty of time this time around.

For those interested heres the original thread.

What would happen if all the Tier 7 clubs were replaced with clubs from the Smallest Nations in the World?

Would the Small Nations eventually dominate the World Scene if given top Youth and Training Facilitys?

Could the Clubs eventually dominate English Football?

... Ever wondered about the above Questions? No!? Well of course you wouldn't .. who would .. Only me i guess!? ... anyway enough talking to myself and let me explain what i've done,

... All clubs in the Southern Premier, the Isthmian Premier and the Northern Premier Leagues have been replaced with Clubs from the Smallest Nations in the World.

I decided to also add the 10 Poorest Nations, 10 Lowest by FIFA Ranking and 10 Lowest Population as well as 2 special entrants.

All clubs were given Top Training and Youth Academy's and made sure they all had stadiums.

I also gave all clubs a reputation boost as follows;

Up to 500 = 1000

501 - 750 = 1250

751 - 1000 = 1500

1001 - 1500 = 1650

1501 - 1749 = 1750

The Clubs:

Nation     | Division added into | Representing Club | Reputation

Smallest by area (34);

American Samoa - South - Utulei Youth - 1000
Andorra - North - Santa Coloma - 1650
Anguilla - North - Spartan International - 1000
Antugua & Barbuda - North - SAP FC - 1650
Aruba - South - SV Racing Club Aruba (RCA) - 1250
Bahrain - South - Muharraq - 3500
Barbados - South - Notre Dame - 1650
British Virgin Islands - North - Rangers - 1000
Cayman Islands - Isthm - Money Express - 1250
Cook Islands - North - Nikao - 1000
Cuba - South - Villa Clara - 1250
Curacao - Isthm - Jong Holland - 1500
Faroe Islands - Isthm - Havnar Bóltfelag - 2250
Grenada - North - Paradise - 1250
Guam - North - Cars Plus - 1000
Maldives - Isthm - VB Sports - 1750
Malta - North - Valletta - 2550
Martinique - South - Club Franciscain - 2250
Mayotte - North - FC Labattoir - 1250
Montserrat - Isthm - Ideal (MSR) - 1000
Northern Mariana Islands - South - Inter-Godfathers - 1000
Puerto Rico - Isthm - Tornados de Humacao - 2250
Saint Lucia - North - Vempers Sports Athletic Dramatic Club (VSADC) - 1650
San Marino - North - Tre Fiori - 1500
Seychelles - Isthm - St Louis Suns Utd - 1250
Singapore - Isthm - Tampines - 2950
Sint Maarten - South - Victory Boys - 1000
St. Kitts and Nevis - North - Village Superstars - 1500
St. Martin - Isthm - ASC St. Louis Stars - 1000
St. Vincent and the Grenadines - South - System 3 - 1000
Turks and Caicos Islands - South - KPMG Utd - 1000
Tuvalu - South - Nauti - 1000
Virgin Islands U.S - North - Positive Vibes - 1000
Wallis and Futuna - Isthm - Forces Armées de Nouvelle-Calédonie (FANC) - 1000

Poorest Nations by GDP (10);

Cape Verde - Isthm - Sporting da Praia - 1650
Comoros - Isthm - Djabal Club - 1650
Dominica - South - Pantoja - 1250
Guinea-Bissau - South - Os Balantas - 1650
Liberia - North - Invincible Eleven - 1650
Samoa - North - Kiwi - 1000
Sao Tome and Principe - Isthm - Bairros Unidos FC - 1250
Solomon Islands - South - Kossa FC - 1250
Tonga - South - Lotoha'apai - 1000
Vanuatu - South - Tafea - 1000

Smallest Nations by Population (10);

Bahamas - Isthm - Cavalier FC - 1000
Belize - North - Kulture Yabra - 1650
Bhutan - Isthm - Yeedzin - 1000
Brunei - South - Angkatan Bersenjata Diraja Brunei (ABDB) - 1650
Equatorial Guinea - North - Atlético Malabo - 1750
Guyana - North - Western Tigers - 1500
Iceland - South - Fimleikafélag Hafnarfjarðar - 4700
Liechtenstein - Isthm - Vaduz - 5000
Luxembourg - South - Avenir Beggen - 2000
Surinam - Isthm - Robinhood - 1500

Lowest by FIFA Ranking (left over after other lists filled) (10);

Djibouti - North - Gendarmerie - 1000
Eritrea - Isthm - Red Sea - 1500
Kyrgyzstan - Isthm - Dordoy - 2000
Macau (China PR) - North - Associação Desportiva Ka I - 1250
Mauritania - Isthm - Concorde (MTN) - 1650
Pakistan - North - Water and Power Development Authority (W.A.P.D.A.) - 1750
Papua New Guinea - North - Hekari United - 1000
Somalia - Isthm - Elman - 1650
Sri Lanka - South - Sri Lanka Army Sports Club - 1650
Tahiti - South - AS Dragon - 1650

Honourable Inclusions (2);

Cambodia - Was requested in the last version i ran - South - Phnom Penh Crown - 1750
Bolivia - No CONMEBOL representatives - Isthm - Jorge Wilstermann - 4500

Hopefully a few people will find this interesting and please feel free to support, hate or just feel nothing for the clubs that gain promotion into the English League.

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The Data;

I randomly decided which division to put the clubs into between the Northern, Southern and Isthmian.

I have loaded all players from all 66 of the 'Small Nations' other than that only English leagues have been loaded on a Large database with 'Players added to Playable teams' 'Transfers in first Window' and 'Staff added to clubs' all ticked.

All transfer budgets, finances and team status' (I.E Professional, Semi-Pro or Amatuer) are all left as is.

Some clubs will be in Continental competitions the first season atleast, these include; FC Vaduz (Liechtenstein), Havnar Boltfelag (Faroe Islands), Valletta FC (Malta), FC Santa Coloma (Andorra), Tre Fiori (San Marino), and Fimleikafelag Hafnarfjaroar (Iceland).

First update will be later tonight and will be a look at the first season, who won what and who becomes the first of the 'Small Nations Clubs' to make it into the playable leagues?

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I'll keep checking in on this every so often, this looks very interesting. Nice idea!

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A Nation by Nation look at the starting national pools;

CA; (only included dual nationality players who have selected the nation/nation listed first).

American Samoa

60+ - 1

50+ - 0

40+ - 0

30+ - 0

20+ - 4

Andorra

100+ - 1

90+ - 1

80+ - 6

70+ - 8

60+ - 15

Anguilla

30+ - 1

20+ - 5

Antugua & Barbuda

120+ - 1

110+ - 0

100+ - 1

90+ - 5

80+ - 14

Aruba

80+ - 3

70+ - 6

60+ - 9

50+ - 16

40+ - 12

Bahamas

80+ - 1

70+ - 0

60+ - 3

50+ - 0

40+ - 1

Bahrain

110+ - 7

100+ - 7

90+ - 27

80+ - 68

Barbados

130+ - 1

120+ - 0

110+ - 1

100+ - 0

90+ - 1

80+ - 0

70+ - 0

60+ - 4

Belize

120+ - 1

110+ - 0

100+ - 3

90+ - 11

80+ - 55

Bhutan

20+ - 3

10+ - 17

Bolivia

130+ - 1

120+ - 10

110+ - 33

100+ - 80

British Virgin Islands

0

Brunei

60+ - 3

50+ - 8

40+ - 4

30+ - 15

Cambodia

70+ - 1

60+ - 0

50+ - 0

40+ - 2

30+ - 1

Cape Verde

130+ - 1

120+ - 3

110+ - 6

100+ - 14

90+ - 16

Cayman Islands

60+ - 1

50+ - 1

40+ - 0

30+ - 2

Comoros

110+ - 2

100+ - 4

90+ - 3

80+ - 2

70+ - 8

Cook Islands

50+ - 1

40+ - 1

30+ - 5

Cuba

120+ - 1

110+ - 0

100+ - 0

90+ - 8

80+ - 21

Curacao

110+ - 3

100+ - 6

90+ - 10

80+ - 6

Djibouti

80+ - 1

70+ - 1

60+ - 0

50+ - 1

40+ - 1

Dominica

50+ - 1

40+ - 1

30+ - 1

20+ - 2

Equatorial Guinea

110+ - 3

100+ - 7

90+ - 6

80+ - 4

70+ - 14

Eritrea

80+ - 1

70+ - 2

60+ - 0

50+ - 2

40+ - 4

Faroe Islands

110+ - 1

100+ - 0

90+ - 1

80+ - 3

70+ - 5

Grenada

120+ - 2

110+ - 0

100+ - 0

90+ - 0

80+ - 1

70+ - 3

Guam

10+ - 1

Guinea-Bissau

120+ - 2

110+ - 4

100+ - 3

90+ - 10

Guyana

100+ - 1

90+ - 1

80+ - 10

70+ - 14

Iceland

130+ - 3

120+ - 9

110+ - 12

100+ - 22

Kyrgyzstan

90+ - 1

80+ - 2

70+ - 11

60+ - 335

Liberia

130+ - 1

120+ - 0

110+ - 4

100+ - 4

90+ - 16

Liechtenstein

100+ - 2

90+ - 5

80+ - 5

70+ - 4

60+ - 11

Luxembourg

120+ - 1

110+ - 0

100+ - 3

90+ - 10

80+ - 26

Macau (China PR)

50+ - 1

40+ - 1

30+ - 6

Maldives

50+ - 1

40+ - 4

30+ - 47

Malta

100+ - 4

90+ - 4

80+ - 14

70+ - 34

Martinique

70+ - 2

60+ - 0

50+ - 0

40+ - 1

Mauritania

110+ - 1

100+ - 0

90+ - 4

80+ - 5

70+ - 5

Mayotte

0

Montserrat

90+ - 1

80+ - 0

70+ - 1

60+ - 0

50+ - 0

40+ - 1

Northern Mariana Islands

Highest rated = 4

Pakistan

80+ - 2

70+ - 2

60+ - 0

50+ - 3

40+ - 6

Papua New Guinea

60+ - 3

50+ - 1

40+ - 1

30+ - 22

Puerto Rico

110+ - 1

100+ - 1

90+ - 6

80+ - 8

70+ - 4

Samoa

60+ - 1

50+ - 1

40+ - 1

30+ - 16

San Marino

80+ - 1

70+ - 1

60+ - 5

50+ - 2

40+ - 16

Sao Tome and Principe

100+ - 1

90+ - 0

80+ - 3

70+ - 1

60+ - 1

50+ - 3

Seychelles

80+ - 1

70+ - 0

60+ - 0

50+ - 4

40+ - 2

Singapore

80+ - 4

70+ - 15

60+ - 35

Sint Maarten

0

Solomon Islands

80+ - 1

70+ - 3

60+ - 2

50+ - 10

40+ - 14

Somalia

100+ - 1

90+ - 1

80+ - 1

70+ - 2

60+ - 2

Sri Lanka

60+ - 1

50+ - 3

40+ - 10

30+ - 67

St. Kitts and Nevis

100+ - 1

90+ - 1

80+ - 2

70+ - 1

60+ - 1

50+ - 2

St Lucia

90+ - 1

80+ - 2

70+ - 0

60+ - 0

50+ - 3

St. Martin

0

St. Vincent and the Grenadines

90+ - 1

80+ - 5

70+ - 6

60+ - 4

Surinam

110+ - 1

100+ - 1

90+ - 1

80+ - 0

70+ - 4

Tahiti

90+ - 1

80+ - 0

70+ - 1

60+ - 0

50+ - 3

Tonga

30+ - 22

20+ - 43

Turks and Caicos Islands

80+ - 1

70+ - 0

60+ - 0

50+ - 0

40+ - 0

30+ - 0

20+ - 1

Tuvalu

0

Vanuatu

70+ - 1

60+ - 1

50+ - 1

40+ - 10

Virgin Islands U.S

0

Wallis and Futuna

0

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Season 2011/12;

League Update;

Small Nations Teams in Playable League's: 0

Premiership;

Winners: Chelsea.

Champions League: Man City, Man Utd + Liverpool.

Europa League: Blackpool (FA Cup Winners), Tottenham (5th in Premier League) + Newcastle (League Cup Winners).

Relegated: Bolton, West Brom + Swansea.

Championship;

Winners: West Ham

Promoted: Burnley + Blackpool.

Relegated: Barnsley, Peterborough + Coventry.

League 1;

Winners: Sheffield Utd.

Promoted: Charlton + Tranmere.

Relegated: Leyton Orient, Notts Co, Walsall + Hartlepool.

League 2;

Winners: Northampton.

Promoted: Rotherham, Plymouth + Gillingham.

Relegated: Accrington + Macclesfield.

Blue Square Premier;

Winners: Gateshead.

Promoted: Grimsby.

Relegated: AFC Telford, Southport, Tamworth + Kettering.

Blue Square North; Blue Square South;

Winners: Stalybridge. Winners: Woking.

Promoted: Altrincham. Promoted: Dartford.

Relegated: Bishop's Stortford, Solihull Motors + Guiseley. Relegated: Eastborne Boro, Dorchester + Maidenhead.

Promoted into Blue Square North/South: FC Vaduz (Liechtenstein), Jorge Wilstermann (Bolivia), FH (Iceland), Muharraq (Bahrain), Valletta (Malta) + Santa Coloma (Andorra).

FA Cup;

Winners: Blackpool.

Beaten Finalists: Man Utd 2-2 (Blackpool won on Penalties).

Small Nations Club of the Cup: Jorge Wilstermann got to FA Cup 4th rd losing to Middlebrough 2-1, after beating West Brom (3-1 in 3rd) Scunthorpe (3-0 in 2nd) and fellow Small Nations Club, Club Franciscain.

League Cup;

Winners: Newcastle.

Beaten Finalists: Stoke 3-1.

Community Shield: Man City.

Johnstones Paint Trophy: Rochdale.

FA Trophy: Luton.

Beaten Finalists: Wrexham.

Small Nations Club of the Cup: Army (Sri Lanka) lost in the 2nd rd to York (2-1), beat fellow Small Nations Clu Hekari Utd (2-0) in the 1st, beat Droylesden 2-1 in the Qualifying rd.

Transfers (10 highest paid);

Leighton Baines From Everton to Man City - £23m (June 2012)

Dejan Lovren From Lyon to Man Utd - £22.5m (June 2012)

Marek Hamsik From Napoli to Arsenal - £21.5M (January 2010)

Domenico Criscito From Zenit to Man Utd - £21.5m (June 2012)

Danny From Zenit to Man City - £18.75M (July 2011)

Dede From Vasco to Tottenham - £17.25m (January 2012)

Aiden McGready From Spartak Moscow to Tottenham - £17.25m (June 2012)

Andre Ayew From Marseille to Arsenal - £15.75m (July 2011)

Kwadwo Asamoah From Udinese to PSG - £15.75m (January 2012)

Christian Fuchs From Schalke to Tottenham - £15.75m (June 2012)

Coming Soon ... Full Team reports for 6 Promoted Small Nations Teams.

.. Also if there is anything anyone would like to see or any suggestions please feel free to ask.

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