el_magico89

really annoyed......

263 posts in this topic

So,

this time, I am pretty good prepared and I am really curious about what the SI guys are going to tell me...

Its really absurd and really getting on my nerves to see, how I fail to win in matches, I was easily dominating and should have won.

The worst thing is, this didnt happen once, twice or for three times, this has happend more than 5,6,7 times and I am currently mid January of the first season, so god know, how many times I am going to face these kind of matches xD

so, here are the links for the screenshots:

Ive chosen 6 games for you guys

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4109/espanyolaway.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4701/getafeaway.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6928/mallorcaaway.jpg

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/1560/olympiakosaway.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9434/partizanaway.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/5990/sociedadhome.jpg

so, can we say, that we dont really need to play the away games, when the results and the outcome are preprogrammed before the matches havent even been played?

is it just bad luck, was it only by chance, that 5 of the 6 games were away games? do home teams, no matter which class, have really that much advantage in this game, that world class strikers like nilmar, rossi and so on fail constantly to score? in all these matches, my strikers ratings were lower than 6.20 if not 6 or 5.90.

its incredible and ridiciulous, that I now, that if I dont score a second one, the opposition is going to rape me...

the getafe match for example, I was leading in the first half, everything went well, but then suddenly, a long kick by the getafe gk, and the striker for the very first time he shots and its a goal. it wasnt even a real chance. of course, I am dominating the rest of the game, fail to score, just in order to let the opposition score from a corner in the very last minute...

this game is really the worst in my young fm carreer. it really takes the fun out of me and dont SI wonder, why for example the tactic section is so quiet and dead? theres no life in this forum anymore. just a few months ago, I can remember seing 2,3 new threads in the tactic section or getting comments after comments, feedbacks after feedbacks, but now, theres badly something happening. the only reason, because people got fed up with this game. most of them have given up and I know lots of guys, who have begun playing fm 11 again...

and for those, who will claim, I am a whiner and so on...

this is how I am doing currently, without any important signings, first season and finished the cl group stages as leaders.

so nothing to be unhappy about, but still, its just getting more and more frustrating :(

tabledx.jpg

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When will you accept that it is your tactics, the fact that it is happen so frequently to you but not other Fm'ers should be telling you something.

What you need to understand is that the ME is very much biased towards a tradition English way of playing, if you're natural tactical tendencies lean towards a more continental approach then you run a very high risk of getting the kind of results that you're seeing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/289528-The-SI-Sports-Centre-All-You-Need-To-Know-About-FM

Read that from reply 44 down and learn to play rather than swear and blame other things. The fact is, it is your tactics as I was following your thread in the tactics forum. Some of the things you were doing and trying were very contradictory to each other.

But anyways use that thread and actually see why you're losing because of your strikers inability to put the ball in the back of the net.

Look at the screenshots you posted and what does every single one of them have in common? Low tackling %. I'd start with looking at that first and foremost above all else.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
When will you accept that it is your tactics, the fact that it is happen so frequently to you but not other Fm'ers should be telling you something.

What you need to understand is that the ME is very much biased towards a tradition English way of playing, if you're natural tactical tendencies lean towards a more continental approach then you run a very high risk of getting the kind of results that you're seeing.

sry, but what the hell are you talking about?

did you even read, what I wrote? talking so much nonsense and wanting to explain me how the ME works? first of all, I know my work. Ive done a lot in the tactic section of this forum, so you should be the latest to tell me, that its my tactic!

just to remember, here are some results so far, with the same team and same tactic:

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7751/betishome.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4070/espanyolhome.jpg

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/6070/malagaawayz.jpg

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7136/mallorcahomel.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/3886/racingaway.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7628/sevillahome.jpg

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/870/valenciahome.jpg

hey, these results were all just luck...

and now, I guess, youve understood me wrong.

I am not complaining about not winning or not dominating the away games, as I do in home games.

I am much more pissed off the fact, that I dont really play worse than in home games and dont even create less good chances than in home games, but the only difference is, that I constantly fail to score in away games. this hasnt anything to do with realism. since its right, that even in rl, you dont expect the same manutd in away games as in old trafford, but still, rooney,chica or the other guys dont suddenly forget, where to goal is, just because theyre playing in front of 5000 manu fans instead of 700000. its much more, that irl, away teams struggle with the pressure of the home teams and cant create that much chances, as they do in home games. but here, in my example, Ive shown, that my away performances arent reall worse than home games, but it feels like you cant win these games, unless your playing with madrid or barca.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
sry, but what the hell are you talking about?

did you even read, what I wrote? talking so much nonsense and wanting to explain me how the ME works? first of all, I know my work. Ive done a lot in the tactic section of this forum, so you should be the latest to tell me, that its my tactic!

just to remember, here are some results so far, with the same team and same tactic:

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7751/betishome.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4070/espanyolhome.jpg

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/6070/malagaawayz.jpg

http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7136/mallorcahomel.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/3886/racingaway.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7628/sevillahome.jpg

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/870/valenciahome.jpg

hey, these results were all just luck...

and now, I guess, youve understood me wrong.

I am not complaining about not winning or not dominating the away games, as I do in home games.

I am much more pissed off the fact, that I dont really play worse than in home games and dont even create less good chances than in home games, but the only difference is, that I constantly fail to score in away games. this hasnt anything to do with realism. since its right, that even in rl, you dont expect the same manutd in away games as in old trafford, but still, rooney,chica or the other guys dont suddenly forget, where to goal is, just because theyre playing in front of 5000 manu fans instead of 700000. its much more, that irl, away teams struggle with the pressure of the home teams and cant create that much chances, as they do in home games. but here, in my example, Ive shown, that my away performances arent reall worse than home games, but it feels like you cant win these games, unless your playing with madrid or barca.

Did you read Cleons post? Some good advice there

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/289528-The-SI-Sports-Centre-All-You-Need-To-Know-About-FM

Read that from reply 44 down and learn to play rather than swear and blame other things. The fact is, it is your tactics as I was following your thread in the tactics forum. Some of the things you were doing and trying were very contradictory to each other.

But anyways use that thread and actually see why you're losing because of your strikers inability to put the ball in the back of the net.

Look at the screenshots you posted and what does every single one of them have in common? Low tackling %. I'd start with looking at that first and foremost above all else.

mate, I dont give a damn about my tackling rate ok? 99% of those, who have uploaded their tactics and claim, its the best and so on even fail to get a solid defence with manutd and other big teams. did you see my screenshots? just conceded 14 goals in 17 games with having played in bernabeu and camp nou. Ive seen people, who talked about solid defence, when the had conceded less than 50 goals with manutd.

and what does the tackling ratio has to do with not scoring/converting the chances I create? so the opposition has a better tackling percentage, so why for gods sake are they giving away so many chances, having less possession than me? isnt there something wrong in your logics? but hey, off course, you have to defend SI, since your an admin. we all are newbies, dont know anything, and you guys are always right...

great support, thumbs up!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Did you read Cleons post? Some good advice there

did you see the screenshots? did you read, what Ive written? look at the games, Ive won, in most of thems, the opposition has a better tackling percentage than me. for gods sake, you guys really dont know anything about football and football manager. ****ing hell, tackling percentage doesnt mean anything, as long as youre controlling the game. why for gods sake am I giving away less chances, when I fail to have that high tackling percentage?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm still unsure why you're spending so much time commenting on the existing ME, PaulC has already said that unless a massively game-breaking flaw suddenly appears then the current version will not be changed as they are investing all their time & energy in developing a brand new one.

As for your interpretation of the tacking percentage have you looked at where the missed tackles are happening? If your attacking players are trying to win the ball back in the opponents defensive third then it could well lead to a lower success rate but have little negative impact on to defence.

There is also the matter of what are the raw numbers, how many tackles are your players actually attempting in comparison to your opponents & do they fail to make key tackles when required?

Remember there are lies, damn lies & statistics.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
did you see the screenshots? did you read, what Ive written? look at the games, Ive won, in most of thems, the opposition has a better tackling percentage than me. for gods sake, you guys really dont know anything about football and football manager. ****ing hell, tackling percentage doesnt mean anything, as long as youre controlling the game. why for gods sake am I giving away less chances, when I fail to have that high tackling percentage?

Considering you're the one constantly spouting off about failing to win away from home, you really arent in a position to tell anyone they dont know anything about football etc.

Do you actually want some advice, or are you just going to be rude to as many people as possible?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
mate, I dont give a damn about my tackling rate ok?

Firstly I'm female, I'm not a mate.

It's costing you games, so if you don't accept it then stop posting crying each time you lose. You've posted asking for advice and I'm giving it you. Now if you don't want to take advice from someone who can actuallyplay the game and doesn't have the issue you do, then what was the point in posting in the first place?

did you see my screenshots? just conceded 14 goals in 17 games with having played in bernabeu and camp nou. Ive seen people, who talked about solid defence, when the had conceded less than 50 goals with manutd.

Yups I saw the screenshots and 14 goals in 17 games is bad. If you want to win the league then you should be looking at that number for the whole season not half of it. I don't care what other people claim, I'm judging you on what you've posted and asked help for.

and what does the tackling ratio has to do with not scoring/converting the chances I create?

Because if they score then you're on the back foot. If the opposition don't score you have the advantage.

so why for gods sake are they giving away so many chances, having less possession than me?

Please tell me you're not one of them who thinks they should win games because they have had more possession? I could have 30% possession and still win 9-0. Possession means nothing, it's what you do with it what counts.

isnt there something wrong in your logics?

I win games and don't have the mistakes you posted. So from where I'm sat that makes your logic and gaming style wrong. You're the one struggling not me.

you have to defend SI, since your an admin. we all are newbies, dont know anything, and you guys are always right...

great support, thumbs up!

Defend SI?

I'm pretty critical if you've followed any of my threads especially about the AI's inability to defend properly. However I do know the difference between an actual problem and a user who doesn't understand how the game works even though they think they do.

You've posted seeking advice and help, you got it and was rude and totally dismissive. If you can't handle people pointing out flaws in your tactics and the way you play then why did you post?

Use the analysis tab to see exactly why you cannot score and the opposition does. Why do you miss sooo many chances? You have lots off target too, that suggest a problem with the way you play. It's either rushed, too fast or forced play with no other options.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

And stop been agressive and swearing when people are offering you advice.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Im actually dominating with Villarreal first season with only Willian signed and selling Nilmar and Mario playing a 3223 or WM. My only advice to you is take nothing for granted. Playing good teams can be easy if they open up you can really punish them on the counter if you put in some work prematch with defense. The fact that you are struggling against smaller teams is most definitely your.problem. instead of complaining think about how to counter their defensive shape. Could be as simple as setting your striker to stay deeper to confuse the defense. If it was Rossi and he had time on the ball he can really hurt with his passing. When I lack space upfront I change him to treq which let my inside forwards take up.more central.positions between fb and cb constantly and also.gives Rossi.more.time.to.pick a killer ball. of course your tactic could be different so.you need to come up with your own solutions on figuring how to take their defense apart.Sorry for grammar errors.typing on phone and my thumb is too big

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Firstly I'm female, I'm not a mate.

It's costing you games, so if you don't accept it then stop posting crying each time you lose. You've posted asking for advice and I'm giving it you. Now if you don't want to take advice from someone who can actuallyplay the game and doesn't have the issue you do, then what was the point in posting in the first place?

Yups I saw the screenshots and 14 goals in 17 games is bad. If you want to win the league then you should be looking at that number for the whole season not half of it. I don't care what other people claim, I'm judging you on what you've posted and asked help for.

Because if they score then you're on the back foot. If the opposition don't score you have the advantage.

Please tell me you're not one of them who thinks they should win games because they have had more possession? I could have 30% possession and still win 9-0. Possession means nothing, it's what you do with it what counts.

I win games and don't have the mistakes you posted. So from where I'm sat that makes your logic and gaming style wrong. You're the one struggling not me.

Defend SI?

I'm pretty critical if you've followed any of my threads especially about the AI's inability to defend properly. However I do know the difference between an actual problem and a user who doesn't understand who the game works even though they think they do.

You've posted seeking advice and help, you got it and was rude and totally dismissive. If you can't handle people pointing out flaws in your tactics and the way you play then why did you post?

Use the analysis tab to see exactly why you cannot score and the opposition does. Why do you miss sooo many chances? You have lots off target too, that suggest a problem with the way you play. It's either rushed, too fast or forced play with no other options.

+1 couldnt agree more ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Have a look at this, I'm currently writing about this game and will be posting about it tomorrow;

[video=youtube;8tKCFnT-Y8o]

This is the current game I'm writing about for the main thread. I thought I'd share the video for the time being while I write it up. Hopefully it'll be finished sometime this weekend and posted.

The first 3 goals are what happens when you don't prepare and dismiss the bottom of the league side. Over confidence from the manager and lack of respect for the opposition.

I always and I mean always watch the first 15 minutes of a game and change strategy etc based on visuals I see and how my side are actually playing. For this game I was playing bottom of the league, scoring for fun and took the match for granted. I decided to not watch it and just play. The consequences was 3-0 down after 28 minutes. So I decided to watch the rest of the match in full and make changes based on what had happened already. I watch the first 28 mins back by rewinding and I saw the faults and changed them. The outcome was a 3-5 win, not bad from been 3-0 down after 28 mins.

The thing is, if you don't pay attention or understand why you don't pass, don't tackles as good as normal, miss too many shots then you don't understand your own tactics. You need to pay attention and know how to change things when not going your way, even if you are been dominant. If you're dominant and not scoring then you really need to find out why and pinpoint the flaws.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Zzzzzzzzzz...............Snore.

We've heard it all before from you, and every time you have been given advice. The fact that you don't follow said advice is your issue - don't take it out on others and get aggresive and insulting. Go away if you can't and stop posting thses threads, they are tiresome.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

you dont want to understand me. but its ok, I dont want to be a member in this ****in forum anymore. pls, either delete my account or ban me and delete all my threads and the download links. I dont want to be a part of something, which doesnt accept and doesnt want to understand anything, when it comes to negative criticizm. so, DELETE MY THREADS AND MY ACCOUNT, or tell me, how to do it by myself! thats it!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i used to think like most i was fantastic at football manager, did well in the time i played football manager live , yet my tactics always seemed to let me down, so i bit the bullet & asked wwfan for some advice & have since looked around the forums for tips & solutions for when things go wrong with my own tactic creations, untill you start taking the constructive criticism onboard then no one will be able to help you out .

http://almostretired-fml.blogspot.com/2011/04/lend-me-your-eyes.html was my ramblings way back when ,

good luck & hopefully you will be able to manage the way you want to going forward

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
you dont want to understand me. but its ok, I dont want to be a member in this ****in forum anymore. pls, either delete my account or ban me and delete all my threads and the download links. I dont want to be a part of something, which doesnt accept and doesnt want to understand anything, when it comes to negative criticizm. so, DELETE MY THREADS AND MY ACCOUNT, or tell me, how to do it by myself! thats it!

We understand you, it's you who won't listen to the advice.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Cleon, that was like watching Sunday league football.

From my side? :(

I did have a scrap on my hands :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Use the analysis tab to see exactly why you cannot score and the opposition does. Why do you miss sooo many chances? You have lots off target too, that suggest a problem with the way you play. It's either rushed, too fast or forced play with no other options

Or maybe he just wasn't supposed to score in those games under those current sessions. It's not his tactics, because he's doing well, it's the ME trying to create a trail of realism.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
We understand you, it's you who won't listen to the advice.

no, as you wouldnt behave like that. anyway, for almost 2 years, Ive tried to support this forum and this game as much as I could, even though this game is not available in germany, I was buying the game from london, before steam came. have done so many threads, have uploaded 2 great tactics, with a lot of positive feedbacks, tried to answer to every single comment,question feedback and so on... but at the end, you feel like an idiot, when people dont actually read what youve posted, much more read the first sentences and then game with the usual, its your tactics, you dont know anything, its your tackling percentage, when I claim about not scoring from so many chances and so on... I dont want to be a part anymore and want to waste my time for something, which doesnt give me credit for my work. I could easily play this game on my own and would give a damn about losing, but in fact, I want to help some other people by doing a good tactic, so therefore need some explanation about some absurd things, which I could notice in the game so far, but this is, what I get...

could you pls send me a pm and explain me, how I can completely delete my account, since I dont want some personal stuff saved here. also would be nice, if you could delete or close my actual threads in the tactic section.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Or maybe he just wasn't supposed to score in those games under those current sessions. It's not his tactics, because he's doing well, it's the ME trying to create a trail of realism.

There is no mechanism like that in the game. Period. You made three threads on this already. There is no rubber banding.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's the ME trying to leave a trail of realism behind. People demanded realism. Also, it's to make the league table not look cartoony by the end of the season.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
There is no mechanism like that in the game. Period. You made three threads on this already. There is no rubber banding.

It's the games way of telling you that your strikers just had an off-day.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
you dont want to understand me. but its ok, I dont want to be a member in this ****in forum anymore. pls, either delete my account or ban me and delete all my threads and the download links. I dont want to be a part of something, which doesnt accept and doesnt want to understand anything, when it comes to negative criticizm. so, DELETE MY THREADS AND MY ACCOUNT, or tell me, how to do it by myself! thats it!

Now that is how to chuck your toys out of the pram.....

Funnily enough this came to mind,

[video=youtube_share;mKvztQBlraQ]

I took a look at your screenshots and though I am not a tactical genius, (which in your eyes may mean I am not qualified to answer), I noticed that you have a lot of shots but the on target is not that great, so I would be looking at why that is happening. ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
did you see the screenshots? did you read, what Ive written? look at the games, Ive won, in most of thems, the opposition has a better tackling percentage than me. for gods sake, you guys really dont know anything about football and football manager. ****ing hell, tackling percentage doesnt mean anything, as long as youre controlling the game. why for gods sake am I giving away less chances, when I fail to have that high tackling percentage?
You're the one who is losing :D.

Unless you are like a 12 year old then this is really funny, I feel like grabbing some popcorn and sit back chomping away whilst trying not to laugh too much at your babbling rants.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
no, as you wouldnt behave like that. anyway, for almost 2 years, Ive tried to support this forum and this game as much as I could, even though this game is not available in germany, I was buying the game from london, before steam came. have done so many threads, have uploaded 2 great tactics, with a lot of positive feedbacks, tried to answer to every single comment,question feedback and so on... but at the end, you feel like an idiot, when people dont actually read what youve posted, much more read the first sentences and then game with the usual, its your tactics, you dont know anything, its your tackling percentage, when I claim about not scoring from so many chances and so on... I dont want to be a part anymore and want to waste my time for something, which doesnt give me credit for my work. I could easily play this game on my own and would give a damn about losing, but in fact, I want to help some other people by doing a good tactic, so therefore need some explanation about some absurd things, which I could notice in the game so far, but this is, what I get...

could you pls send me a pm and explain me, how I can completely delete my account, since I dont want some personal stuff saved here. also would be nice, if you could delete or close my actual threads in the tactic section.

If this is what he really wants then oblige him. If he cannot listen to Cleon (absolute mistress on FM) then that's his perogative but lets' stop indulging this type of thread. It's a game - it's not real life as we know it)!!!

At least he will be happy that we agree with what he wants to do - foolish and sad but it is his choice.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Can I point you in the direction on Southampton FC, most away game this season we have controlled and near on dominated yet we loose or luckily draw. It happens! The tactics need to be alot more spot on than at home. It can be annoying yes, it can be downright frustrating yes but it's football! I've even known games that happen like that with the home team, I remember a game a fair few years ago Newcastle v Fulham I think it was, Newcastle totally dominated, something like 20+ shots and over 10 on target and Fulham had 2 maybe 3 and they won 1-0. It's all part and parcel of our wonderful yet frustrating sport!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

well if the OP supposedly has the best players he can afford and still losing, clearly the tactics he is using are not working, even blind freddy can see that.

But the OP seems to be oblivious to everything people are reporting back to him.

Tweak your tactics !

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

One thing I have learned from this thread is that Cleon is a Female! :eek: I didn't know that!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
One thing I have learned from this thread is that Cleon is a Female! :eek: I didn't know that!

No, he's not.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

el_magico, do you get this stressed at all games, or just this one?

You seem a bit emotionally invested in it dude, maybe try minesweeper for a bit, just til the black fog clears from your mind eh?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

As your main complaint seems to be that we aren't reading what you wrote:

So,

this time, I am pretty good prepared and I am really curious about what the SI guys are going to tell me...

Its really absurd and really getting on my nerves to see, how I fail to win in matches, I was easily dominating and should have won.

The worst thing is, this didnt happen once, twice or for three times, this has happend more than 5,6,7 times and I am currently mid January of the first season, so god know, how many times I am going to face these kind of matches xD

So, we have identified a problem. You struggle to win some matches away from home, despite playing relatively well in statistical terms. We know that the ME is not fixed, that the AI doesn't "crack" your tactics, and that all these matches are winnable. So, what is the problem?

Is it strategic? Do you tend to push too far up the pitch away from home, which leaves you open to the counter? Cleon's suggestion about tackling rates may mean you are getting stretched quite often.

Is it tactical? Are you losing to teams playing certain formations, or losing in certain conditions? Are you unable to pick your way around massed midfields, or are your full backs getting caught upfield and creamed by fast, counter-attacking wingers? You'll need to look back through the matches and check.

Is it managerial? Are you struggling to motivate your players for a certain type of fixture, away games against a mid-table side? If so, how might you change your approach?

Some look really unlucky, some less so. You are aware, of course, that SI's CCC stat is very liberal, and that some CCCs are pretty tough chances. Could you go back through those matches and check to see just how god those chances are. Are they central shots in which the striker is having to hit it early to avoid being crowded out, or are they in open space when the player has lots of time?

so, can we say, that we dont really need to play the away games, when the results and the outcome are preprogrammed before the matches havent even been played?

You really, really need to get this idea out of your head. ALl these matches would have been winnable if you, the manager, made enough good decisions. We just need to work out where you tend to make mistakes.

is it just bad luck, was it only by chance, that 5 of the 6 games were away games? do home teams, no matter which class, have really that much advantage in this game, that world class strikers like nilmar, rossi and so on fail constantly to score? in all these matches, my strikers ratings were lower than 6.20 if not 6 or 5.90.

There is likely to be some bad luck, but again, you need to take responsibility yourself and work out where you might be going wrong. No manager can win the really unlucky matches, but all can win matches where the luck is only slightly against you.

its incredible and ridiciulous, that I now, that if I dont score a second one, the opposition is going to rape me...

the getafe match for example, I was leading in the first half, everything went well, but then suddenly, a long kick by the getafe gk, and the striker for the very first time he shots and its a goal. it wasnt even a real chance. of course, I am dominating the rest of the game, fail to score, just in order to let the opposition score from a corner in the very last minute...

I imagine you didn't think about seeing out the opening 15 mins of the 2nd half to deal with the expected Getafe push for an equaliser, then saw your players get frustrated as they couldn't find a winner, which led to the soft goal against you. There would have been many options you could have taken to prevent such a scenario, such as sitting deep early in the 2nd half, warning your players to keep focused, looking to counter rather than push, etc, etc.

this game is really the worst in my young fm carreer. it really takes the fun out of me and dont SI wonder, why for example the tactic section is so quiet and dead? theres no life in this forum anymore. just a few months ago, I can remember seing 2,3 new threads in the tactic section or getting comments after comments, feedbacks after feedbacks, but now, theres badly something happening. the only reason, because people got fed up with this game. most of them have given up and I know lots of guys, who have begun playing fm 11 again...

The only reason you think that is because you haven't been able to create a super-tactic, which is, somewhat realistic, is it not?

and for those, who will claim, I am a whiner and so on...

this is how I am doing currently, without any important signings, first season and finished the cl group stages as leaders.

so nothing to be unhappy about, but still, its just getting more and more frustrating :(

Then don't be unhappy. All you have to do is work out how to win a certain type of game and everything will be coming up roses. All anyone in these forums is asking you to do is to make the effort and work it out for yourself. Take responsibility for your losses and stop blaming FM, the ME, the AI, SI, the forums etc for your mistakes.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
One thing I have learned from this thread is that Cleon is a Female! :eek: I didn't know that!

People don't talk about it, it's upsets the luddites when they find out they are getting tactical advice from a girl.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
What you need to understand is that the ME is very much biased towards a tradition English way of playing, if you're natural tactical tendencies lean towards a more continental approach then you run a very high risk of getting the kind of results that you're seeing.

I don't actually agree with this. It is very possible to develop a successful continental shape / style. It might not be as easy to do as the British style, but that is largely because people want to use the aggressive mentalities too much, which lend themselves to a British style game. Short passing and a more cautious strategy can be extremely effective and successful, and plays a far more continentalesque game.

I would, however, agree that every system has the tendency to get the ball forward out of defence slightly too quickly, which is a British disease.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

can actually anyone tell me, how I can delete my whole account, so that my email adress and everything else is deleted?

still didnt get a pm or an answer to this question.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I would, however, agree that every system has the tendency to get the ball forward out of defence slightly too quickly, which is a British disease.
That's probably closer to what I was aiming for, try as I might I have never been able to create a composed playing style that will see my team abandon a charge down a blind alley & go back to try a different line of attack.

All too often one of my attacking players will either run the ball out or take a pot shot from distance regardless of my clear instructions not to.

Edit: Before anyone offers any suggestions or tips be warned, I'm a llama & as such I'm likely to spit at anyone who tries to offer advice. :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
can actually anyone tell me, how I can delete my whole account, so that my email adress and everything else is deleted?

still didnt get a pm or an answer to this question.

Write to Neil Brock. Don't see why you would do that, though. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face. The best place to find help that can solve your problem is this forum. The only thing you need to do is accept that you, not the game, need to change. Once you can accept that, you'll start to sort things out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Write to Neil Brock. Don't see why you would do that, though. It's cutting off your nose to spite your face. The best place to find help that can solve your problem is this forum. The only thing you need to do is accept that you, not the game, need to change. Once you can accept that, you'll start to sort things out.

how can I find him? is it possible, that you could ask him to write me a message or to immediately delete my account? im very new to the message system, as I never used it before, so sorry for the dumb questions ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why don't you try and engage with the efforts to sort out your problem instead. If you relaxed, read things without emotion or anger, and used the information within to sort out your issues, I suspect we'd get you enjoying FM again in a couple of weeks or so.

If you still hate FM after that, and still believe you are being cheated, I'd happily get Neil to delete your account.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The sheer number that haven't got a clue how this game works just amazes me. He's doing quite well. Is there some hidden law within the game stating that he must bang in 5 every game or he's doing something wrong?

Wait, are you saying there is a scripted way to win every single game? Or bang in 5 every single game?

If so, then please help me bang in 50 a game

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The sheer number that haven't got a clue how this game works just amazes me. He's doing quite well. Is there some hidden law within the game stating that he must bang in 5 every game or he's doing something wrong?

Wait, are you saying there is a scripted way to win every single game? Or bang in 5 every single game?

He's doing something wrong.

There are no scripted ways to do anything. From what I've read of your posts, you are either a troll who will have a very short stay on these forums, or somebody who knows absolutely nothing about how FM works.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
He's doing something wrong.

There are no scripted ways to do anything. From what I've read of your posts, you are either a troll who will have a very short stay on these forums, or somebody who knows absolutely nothing about how FM works.

I doubt you've even played the game

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I doubt you've even played the game

I think wwfan works on the ME for SI \o/

If he does, it'll make you look like an even bigger idiot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

same tactic, with a lot of back up players, same opposition (1 week later), 2nd leg of the spanish cup, the only difference: its a home game

mallorcahome.jpg

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

thats, what I want to tell you guys.

the difference between an home game and away game is too massive. not, that I would get dominated in away games and wouldnt deserve a victory, its much more the fact, that the created chances are much more to be finished in a goal, when you play at home. in away games, its like your strikers would have suddenly gotten **** on their feet. the same nilmar, who cant score for months, scores suddenly 4 in a match. ok, the only change I made was, i was demanding a win in an aggressive tone, as I want to try out, how my team plays, when I constantly demand a win in an aggressive tone, no matter whether playing against a lower dvision team or real madrid. as the most times, when I play at home, I expect a win and in away games just for the fans and so on...

if I had the same problems in home games aswell, I would have said, that its probably my tactic and I need to tweak it, but no, its like jekyll and hyde...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Whatever. Just because you string a few bad results this doesn't necessarily mean you're doing something wrong. I know how this works and it was intended to be realistic or at least try to be realistic, meaning you could end up with a bad result even though you've done everything right

Edit: You can never sway the probability 100% in your favour

Also, I'm tired so I can't be ****ed arguing man. You know I'm right

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

if I had the same problems in home games aswell, I would have said, that its probably my tactic and I need to tweak it, but no, its like jekyll and hyde...

This sums up your problem. You can't tweak a tactic to perfection. You must react to the dynamic nature of football. If you think you can design a magic tactic that wins all matches against all opposition in all conditions, it will always end in frustration.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.