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@Mr.Hough

I don't think the problem is necessarilly using shout. I think the issue is more creating a solid and balanced base tactic from which these shouts can work.

Like you I am also beginning to embrace the TC but I am yet to try it, simply because every time I try to make even a simple TC base tactic I fail. I'm just not sure of two things:

1. What combinations of options work well together.

2. What combinations of options I need to select in order to produce the style of football I want.

I'll post my reply in my thread mate, I don't wanna take over Fuss's thread, I don't think he's mind much but i'm a respectful guy and thats how i roll.

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I'm not gonna hijack Fuss's thread no more but I'm thinking about making a thread in the Tactic Discussion part regarding Shouts and Combos. I honestly honestly think if people tried it they would love it, I thought it was all Micro Managing but if you look at this picture.

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Look at it every single shout is available and is also available in game, Now until i seen and used this i thought you had to select each one of the shout you wanted as the game is playing BUT again look at the Picture, I have selected a few shouts all pre-game specifically on a situation that i want to make within the game, I will use this and then after scoring a few goals i might select another Premade Shout that will keep hold of the ball frustrate the opponents, The hardest thing about it is making the shouts but it takes 2 minutes.

I wouldn't go on about it so much if i didn't think it was good.

We might just be onto something guys...Just played Arsenal away from home in the League Cup Quarters and was winning 2-1...So I had a look at what shout combos I could put together to park the bus so to speak...I applied the shout in the last 10 mins and won the game 4-1...My team literally parked the bus...cleared the ball to the wings like I asked and Bobs your Uncle and Fanny's your Anut...Semi's here I come!!!

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We might just be onto something guys...Just played Arsenal away from home in the League Cup Quarters and was winning 2-1...So I had a look at what shout combos I could put together to park the bus so to speak...I applied the shout in the last 10 mins and won the game 4-1...My team literally parked the bus...cleared the ball to the wings like I asked and Bobs your Uncle and Fanny's your Anut...Semi's here I come!!!

It's so easy, I'm rangers played 28 games won 27 drew 1 scored 86 conceded 8, Happy days

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We might just be onto something guys...Just played Arsenal away from home in the League Cup Quarters and was winning 2-1...So I had a look at what shout combos I could put together to park the bus so to speak...I applied the shout in the last 10 mins and won the game 4-1...My team literally parked the bus...cleared the ball to the wings like I asked and Bobs your Uncle and Fanny's your Anut...Semi's here I come!!!

Check your pms please ben :)

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It's so easy, I'm rangers played 28 games won 27 drew 1 scored 86 conceded 8, Happy days

Not exactly difficult..I won every league game using a default 442 and doing nothing lol

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Am I being stupid or I can't see where to use custom shouts during a match?

If you're using a classic tactic, then you don't get to use shouts.

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Fuss, have u made any head way into ur hunt for creating something that works? The results you produced the other day were stunning?

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I've just downloaded the original and 3-0 up after 15 minutes (liverpool vs southampton) so I'm not complaining as I'm a newcomer to this thread!

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just downloaded the old tatic there as my flat 4-4-2 gets destroyed by teams in the top 7 so downloaded it for them seem as i was laying 5 of the top 7 in my next games and it worked a treat won 3 drew 1 and lost 1

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I don't know what is going on but now it seems that the tac works with 13.1.3 I won the first tree epl games and all the friendly's

will post my league status and the end off my season

cheers fuss

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Can I just state using Rangers in division three as a base team for tactic testing is utterly pointless.

Also if you amend the orginal tactic in the OP to use specific player as a targetman and playmaker, with a few other tweaks the tactic is near perfect.

Well done fuss.

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Can I just state using Rangers in division three as a base team for tactic testing is utterly pointless.

Also if you amend the orginal tactic in the OP to use specific player as a targetman and playmaker, with a few other tweaks the tactic is near perfect.

Well done fuss.

Glesgakillie, You've been quiet this season of FM? What tactic have you been using? How has it been for you?

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Glesgakillie, You've been quiet this season of FM? What tactic have you been using? How has it been for you?

Iv'e been working on my own tactics and keeping them for my own enjoyment. Last time I put up something on here it was plagerised ridiculously. I twigged early doors assymetircal tactics worked well and then every guy and their dog was at it for the pre patch FM13. After that I thought, "whats the point".

Fuss and others contribute and give alot to the "scene" fair play to them. I now lurk and life is swell lol.

Anyways enough about me.

Credit goes to fuss for his tactical nous and I doff my cap to the gent again.

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Can I just state using Rangers in division three as a base team for tactic testing is utterly pointless.

Also if you amend the orginal tactic in the OP to use specific player as a targetman and playmaker, with a few other tweaks the tactic is near perfect.

Well done fuss.

Glesgakillie, is there any chance of telling us the tweaks that you have made to the V3 Final tactic?

You would be helping another FM lover fall back in love with the game if it gets this working again!

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I'll tell you one of them, set a MC to forward runs, set him as playmaker and targetman. Have play maker and targetman ticked of course in team instructions. Have distribution to feet. Have MR and ML set to crossing byline, targetman. Have both FC's set Byline targetman.

Voila, loads of cutback goals.

Might I add you can do this with ANY formation on FM11, FM12, FM13. If you want other tactics or inspiration using the TC - http://www.thedugout.net/community/showthread.php?t=89294 which is a link to the thread iv'e been roadtesting this theory on with great success.

Now back on topic, I htink what Fuss, Hough, Cleon and WWfan have said about the TC is very true.

You can still create a plug and play classic tactic but tbh if you use the shouts correctly the TC is by far more enjoyable and easier, thats right, easier to use.

That thread iv'e linked has a few "templates" you can start off with but I would strongly reccomend folk have a bash at creating their own tactic.

The only thing I edit now when making tactics is individual player long shots, thats all.

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I'll tell you one of them, set a MC to forward runs, set him as playmaker and targetman. Have play maker and targetman ticked of course in team instructions. Have distribution to feet. Have MR and ML set to crossing byline, targetman. Have both FC's set Byline targetman.

Voila, loads of cutback goals.

Might I add you can do this with ANY formation on FM11, FM12, FM13. If you want other tactics or inspiration using the TC - http://www.thedugout.net/community/showthread.php?t=89294 which is a link to the thread iv'e been roadtesting this theory on with great success.

Now back on topic, I htink what Fuss, Hough, Cleon and WWfan have said about the TC is very true.

You can still create a plug and play classic tactic but tbh if you use the shouts correctly the TC is by far more enjoyable and easier, thats right, easier to use.

That thread iv'e linked has a few "templates" you can start off with but I would strongly reccomend folk have a bash at creating their own tactic.

The only thing I edit now when making tactics is individual player long shots, thats all.

GlesgaKillie, does playing the way you suggest require you to watch highlights of the matches though?

I only watch the commentary of the game and feel that implementing shouts would be difficuilt playing the game this way?

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i also play with only commentary, i struggle with tactics but love playing the game, its sad that we'll get left behind if we dont convert, im sure there's still a lot of people play this way as well.

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GlesgaKillie, does playing the way you suggest require you to watch highlights of the matches though?

I only watch the commentary of the game and feel that implementing shouts would be difficuilt playing the game this way?

I play with commentary only and watch the match stats and player stats on a split screen.

In making a tactic I watch 15 full games. Annotate and log every pass, tackle etc etc etc.

I advise you watch the games if you want to make a tactic that suits your team well. However, I cannot stress enough how easy it is to use the tactics creator and get the results you want.

Its basically a gift, a lovely gift, that takes 5 minutes max to tweak.

My advise to everyone is to take the plunge. Work out how you want your team to play. Ask the players to do realistic roles which fit their stats and have fun.

You will feel alot more fulfilled that way guys and gals.

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i also play with only commentary, i struggle with tactics but love playing the game, its sad that we'll get left behind if we dont convert, im sure there's still a lot of people play this way as well.

You won't be left behind dude. Look, a really simple way of making a good tactic is assess the sqaud of players you have. Ask yourself what role each of your best 11 can fulfill and then have a bash at the TC creating a tactic that suits said players.

99% of my FM experience is spent with commentary only and iv'e virtually nearly all the tactics I use or create are via the TC and get tweaked "over time".

Apologies to Fuss for the amount iv'e posted off topic on the thread but I feel the TC needs to be explained as something thats easy to use and in fact alot simpler than classic tactics, if not more successful.

If in doubt, go to the page iv'e linked in the dugout and download a few of my tactics and see how easy it is. But I would implore all of you to try and make your own.

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forgive my utter ignorance, but what does TC mean????!!!!

I apologise. TC is in reference to the Tactic Creator used in the game. There is two modes to create tactics, one using the TC and another using the old Classic mode.

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thank you and sorry to fuss, thanks for your replies, i'll give it a go next season, see if i can see the light.

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thank you and sorry to fuss, thanks for your replies, i'll give it a go next season, see if i can see the light.

Drop me a PM if you need any help dude ok. Once you get the hang of it you'll never revert back. Instead of intense slider manipulation, you actually feel like your managing tactics. Its like the difference between getting your nat king cole and having a wa....................

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Nice posts GlesgaKillie.

The problem is that tactics made by guys like Fuss are without doubt successful and gives you overachieving.

There is no TC tactic that will give you that, except if you managing Barca, Real, Man U etc.

For example i play with Panathinaikos. There is no simple TC tactic that can give me overachieving in Champions League.

And that's what i am looking for, a boost in my realistic and irl favourite squad.

The dilemma is :

Do you want to feel the joy of succeeding with your own tactic?

Or you want a tactic made by someone that knows how to create one and focus on the other great aspects of the game?

I choose the second because of lack of time!

On topic now, Fuss are you working on anything for FM13?

Your 442 V3 is the best tactic i ve ever used. (FM12)

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I win the league every season with this patch (FM13 latest patch 13.2.2). It is the best tactic on these forums in my opinion and i win nearly every game about 5-0. Good defensivly too and also beats the big teams. I havent got the best squad in the league as city utd and chelsea can all afford better players (im blackburn). My two strikers score about 40 goals each per season. My biggest tip when using this tactic is to have fast pacey dribblers on the wing. Thanks for a great tactic fuss you dont need to make a new one this one works fine.

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Just won the quintuplet in the english league using version 3 of these tactics latest patch 3.2.2. beat lyon 7-0 in champions league final.

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In the Libary in steam go Down to downloads and push the blue button

then it should begin updating

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how did you get patch 13.2.2?

I'm on 13.2.1 and steam is set to update automatically,so if 13.2.2 is available i should be running it?

he didn't...13.2.1 is the last update

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i dont use any shouts or OI or anything my assistant does my team talks. I just use this tactic and win every game latest patch.

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I hope people are using this tactic? Im in my 6th season with Spurs, 3x league wins, 4 Capital One Cups, 3 FA Cups, 2 Champions Leagues and just had this:-

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My first ever FM double figure league win and double hat trick from my 21 year old englis regen, Big Dunc as fondly refer to him as, to boot!

Wow.

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