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[12.1.0] TACTIC: 4-2-2-2 'tweak' (BPL half a season record 19 matches - W19 / shot 91 of 1


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hi dibasta, with wolfsong the prematch is always have faith for all?

Pre – Match Team Talks

Individual Team Talk

“Pickup where you left from” if available

“Expect better” if available

“Expect a performance” on players looking complacent

“You have faith” on striker having goal draught or player with low morale, trial and error

“No Pressure” on youngster making debut followed by pleased if he achieves 6.8 or more rating

“No pressure” or “You have faith” on players looking nervous or unable to handle pressure, if they achieve below 6.6 rating, substitute them off.

General Team Talk

“I expect a win” if odds heavily favour me and morale above good or there is complacency

“For the fans” for any other occasion

“Pressure is off” if odds are heavily against me and morale is below average (RARE)

Half Time Talks

Individual Team Talk

“You can make a difference” or “You have faith” on players who have scored or who have achieved a 7.5 rating or higher or are coming in as substitutes

“None” on player with ratings 7.0 to 7.4 if pre match = “I expect a win” and you are drawing

“None” on player with 6.7 rating or below and morale above average if u are leading by 2 or more goals

“Disappointing” on player with 6.7 rating or below and morale above average

General Team Talk

“Dissapointing” when drawing and pre match = “I expect a win”

“For the fans” when drawing and pre match = “For the fans”

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“Don't get careless” when leading by 1 goal, expected to win, morale is above average or complacency has been reported

“Encourage” when leading by 1 goal, underdog or morale is average and there is no complacency reported

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“Don't let your performance drop” when leading by 2 or more goals, heavily favored or complacency has been reported

“Pleased” when leading by 2 or more goals, if there is no complacency reported

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“I want to see more from you” or “Where is the passion lads” when losing , favored or even odds

“For the fans” when losing, underdog

Post Match Teamtalks

Individual Team Talk

“Delighted” on top performers if u won

“Pleased” on top performers if u drew

“Disappointing” on players with below 6.7 rating if u drew

“Angered” on players who were sent off for violent behavior or players with below 6 rating

“None” on players with 7 to 7.5 rating if u drew

General Team Talk

“Pleased” if u won

“Disappointing” if u drew and the ratings are generally below 7 and u were expected to win

“Sympathise” if u drew and the ratings are generally good

“Disappointing” if u lost and odds were close or in favor

“Sympathise” if u were supposed to lose and general ratings are above 7

Best sum up i could make. I tried keeping most of wolfsongs guide, but i strongly recommend reading the whole article wolfsongs wrote before using this summary.

All credits goes to wolfsong!

This really help my understated how wolfsong work :)

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I can recommend this teamtalk for everyone:

http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/football-manager-2012-tactics-training/85963-teamtalks.html

very simple and efectiv

Use this team talk, with FC Dordrecht (holland, season 14) now a premier division winning team.

Friendly match against Real Madrid.... Just won with 7-2...... Half time 2-1 up, still the aggressive teamtalk, players who get confused I said, I have faid in you

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Use this team talk, with FC Dordrecht (holland, season 14) now a premier division winning team.

Friendly match against Real Madrid.... Just won with 7-2...... Half time 2-1 up, still the aggressive teamtalk, players who get confused I said, I have faid in you

goed gedaan haha zit je ook op fm united????

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Nee eigenlijk alleen hier, FM united is het Nederlandse Forum toch?

Ik zal eens kijken.

ok daar zijn ze nou ook met deze tactiek bezig in het il devasto topic haha maar hier gebeurd veel meer kwa tactieken en zo ik heb daar mr hough geplaatst en koflok en de meesten kennen die tactieken niet eens

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TEAM TALK this for me. Discuss it.

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Pre-Match Team:.

If you're favorite / Similar opponent (Aggressive) I expect a Win,.

If you're not favorite, (Calm) Give these their fans. Worth money. Pre-Match Individual:. If motivated, do not talk. If not motivated, (Passionately) I have Faith in you. ------------------------. -------------------------------. Half-Time Talk:. Half-Time Team:. When Winning Big, (Calm) I '. m Pleased Keep Up was something to this. When. losing / drawing / Winning 1-0/playing Bad, (Aggressive) Team's pride at Stake (or Whatever on top). Half-Time Individual:. If Players get de-motivated, (Passionately). Those who 'Gain Focus', just left it. . -------------------------------------------------. ---. Full-Time:. Winning, (Passionately) A very nice Victory, Well done. If favorite / against Similar team Losing / drawing (Aggressive) I'm disappointed (or Whatever on top). If Underdog, and losing (Calm) Unlucky. Credit: koflok.

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Hi cragswfc!

I'm Porto and I have problems with defence. In Portugal im boss, but in Champions League i have bad results. I dont know whats wrong. I have good team:

GKs: ter Stegen, Ospina

FBs: Fucile, Pereira, Mangala, Alex Sandro

DCs: Otamendi, Howedes, Rolando

Mid: Defour, Moutinho, Felipe Anderson, Kara

Wingers: James Rodriguez, Hulk, Shaqiri, Willian

Strikers: Doumbia, Fierro, Sam

Chelsea 3-5 Porto

Porto 1-3 Chelsea

Porto 4-1 Manchester United

Manchester United 4-4 Porto

Benfica 5-6 Porto (but here i know reason - second squad)

For example in league: 25 matches, 127-12 goals

Do you have hockey results?

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Hi cragswfc!

I'm Porto and I have problems with defence. In Portugal im boss, but in Champions League i have bad results. I dont know whats wrong. I have good team:

GKs: ter Stegen, Ospina

FBs: Fucile, Pereira, Mangala, Alex Sandro

DCs: Otamendi, Howedes, Rolando

Mid: Defour, Moutinho, Felipe Anderson, Kara

Wingers: James Rodriguez, Hulk, Shaqiri, Willian

Strikers: Doumbia, Fierro, Sam

Chelsea 3-5 Porto

Porto 1-3 Chelsea

Porto 4-1 Manchester United

Manchester United 4-4 Porto

Benfica 5-6 Porto (but here i know reason - second squad)

For example in league: 25 matches, 127-12 goals

Do you have hockey results?

not sure why seems a very good squad how you letting them in ?
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Sorry but my level of english is low and i dont know what do you want ;( Do you want screens my settings of corners or what?

I think he is asking if you get many goals conceded from corners..

Anyway, this tactic doesn't work for my Leeds team in first season. :(

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I think he is asking if you get many goals conceded from corners..

Anyway, this tactic doesn't work for my Leeds team in first season. :(

Defensive corners are ok. In game defenders are lost. Opposite strikers easy score goals.

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I've been using all the versions of satorox's tactic, but I must say that this one is definitely the best. It's still very attacking like the previous ones (or even more, I'm scoring 3+ goals in every match) , but has A LOT better defence. I'm playing in polish league in 2013 and my team average age is ~21 (90% squad are young, talented regens). In previous season my team was supposed to be relegated, but I've managed to win the league with 22W 6D 2L (96-35), and I wasn't using this version from the beggining. Right now, I'm 9W 0D 0L (33-5) and I'm crushing everyone in the league and even doing well in champions league where the team are so much better.

IMO squad rotation, superb morale, ~100% condition & fitness, correct team talk & players on each position = success

I'm gonna post some screenshots when I finish this season.

Match preparation

Initialy, I was using very low/very low workload as my tactic's familiarity was maxed out, but some players were complaining about it so I decided to change it to average.

Additional Focus Area:

one day before match: attacking set pieces (for some bonus to att. corners <3, DLC 19 heading/16 jumping is scoring for fun in every match)

after match: teamwork (as it's the only focus that's active between matches)

Some team talk feedback:

Pre-Match Team:.

If you're favorite / Similar opponent (Aggressive) I expect a Win,.

Aggressive pre-match teamtalk works great for me only when I'm a HUGE favorite.

If you're not favorite, (Calm) Give these their fans. Worth money.

Not sure about this, never worked for me so far.

When. losing / drawing / Winning 1-0/playing Bad, (Aggressive) Team's pride at Stake

Aggressive half-time teamtalk (1-st option from top) works like 100% of the time when you're winning by 1 goal/losing/drawing, and it doesn't matter what are the match odds, so this is awesome and I think the most important one.

Half-Time Team:. When Winning Big, (Calm)

this is what works for me:

winning by 2 goals -> calm

winning by 3 or more -> passionately

Full-Time:. Winning, (Passionately) A very nice Victory, Well done. If favorite / against Similar team Losing / drawing (Aggressive) I'm disappointed (or Whatever on top). If Underdog, and losing (Calm) Unlucky.

Works great.

What I've noticed is that you need to experiment with a correct tones and options for specific players. For instance, some of my players never react to "passionately->you have faith" in pre-match, but they do when I use "calm" tone. Right now, I can motivate 9/11 players in pre-match teamtalk in EVERY game. And yea, passion->you have faith works for most of them. Just need some testing.

This tactic is really great. Probably one of the best tactics for FM12 right now.

Good job!

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I love this tactic! Started as West Brom just to see if this was as good as everyone says it is and as of the 12th of February (1st season) I'm 2nd in the League and in the final of the Carling Cup! Great tactic, in every game I've scored 2 or more goals apart from 1 game in all competitions, and that was when the team hadn't become accustomed to the tactic at all.

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I've been using all the versions of satorox's tactic, but I must say that this one is definitely the best. It's still very attacking like the previous ones (or even more, I'm scoring 3+ goals in every match) , but has A LOT better defence. I'm playing in polish league in 2013 and my team average age is ~21 (90% squad are young, talented regens). In previous season my team was supposed to be relegated, but I've managed to win the league with 22W 6D 2L (96-35), and I wasn't using this version from the beggining. Right now, I'm 9W 0D 0L (33-5) and I'm crushing everyone in the league and even doing well in champions league where the team are so much better.

IMO squad rotation, superb morale, ~100% condition & fitness, correct team talk & players on each position = success

I'm gonna post some screenshots when I finish this season.

Match preparation

Initialy, I was using very low/very low workload as my tactic's familiarity was maxed out, but some players were complaining about it so I decided to change it to average.

Additional Focus Area:

one day before match: attacking set pieces (for some bonus to att. corners <3, DLC 19 heading/16 jumping is scoring for fun in every match)

after match: teamwork (as it's the only focus that's active between matches)

Some team talk feedback:

Aggressive pre-match teamtalk works great for me only when I'm a HUGE favorite.

Not sure about this, never worked for me so far.

Aggressive half-time teamtalk (1-st option from top) works like 100% of the time when you're winning by 1 goal/losing/drawing, and it doesn't matter what are the match odds, so this is awesome and I think the most important one.

this is what works for me:

winning by 2 goals -> calm

winning by 3 or more -> passionately

Works great.

What I've noticed is that you need to experiment with a correct tones and options for specific players. For instance, some of my players never react to "passionately->you have faith" in pre-match, but they do when I use "calm" tone. Right now, I can motivate 9/11 players in pre-match teamtalk in EVERY game. And yea, passion->you have faith works for most of them. Just need some testing.

This tactic is really great. Probably one of the best tactics for FM12 right now.

Good job!

i'll try your theory.
Amazing Tactic, just started a save with Crawley, first game of the season I beat Northampton 4-0 at home and now just beat Ipswich 5-3 away from home in the League Cup
Best tactic on here, without a doubt! Still find it weak defensively and I do lose some games and win some game with the other team scoring a lot.
I love this tactic! Started as West Brom just to see if this was as good as everyone says it is and as of the 12th of February (1st season) I'm 2nd in the League and in the final of the Carling Cup! Great tactic, in every game I've scored 2 or more goals apart from 1 game in all competitions, and that was when the team hadn't become accustomed to the tactic at all.
cool. hope it stays that way haha
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