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I'm going to try something which is a bit new for me but purposely set up a team with a heavy emphasis on short passing, possession and good movement. I'm going to do this with an MLS team on FM Touch.

I'm not sure what approach I'd need to take, I presume fluid or very fluid, in order to keep the team moving together in order to keep passing options open. I have read though that rigid is usually better with more specialist player roles so a little confused.

I've not yet created the game or considered role, formation yet.

Any advice on this or relevant pointers would be much appreciated!

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4 hours ago, Colorado said:

I'm going to try something which is a bit new for me but purposely set up a team with a heavy emphasis on short passing, possession and good movement. I'm going to do this with an MLS team on FM Touch.

I'm not sure what approach I'd need to take, I presume fluid or very fluid, in order to keep the team moving together in order to keep passing options open. I have read though that rigid is usually better with more specialist player roles so a little confused.

I've not yet created the game or considered role, formation yet.

Any advice on this or relevant pointers would be much appreciated!

I'm no expert but I imagine you're on the right track there with your thinking. Fluid or Very Fluid compresses your team together so they will naturally be closer and more available for a short pass.

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9 hours ago, Colorado said:

I'm going to try something which is a bit new for me but purposely set up a team with a heavy emphasis on short passing, possession and good movement. I'm going to do this with an MLS team on FM Touch.

I'm not sure what approach I'd need to take, I presume fluid or very fluid, in order to keep the team moving together in order to keep passing options open. I have read though that rigid is usually better with more specialist player roles so a little confused.

I've not yet created the game or considered role, formation yet.

Any advice on this or relevant pointers would be much appreciated!

Check the pinned thread at the top of the forum.  There is a link there to tactical guides, one of which is about possession football with good movement.

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This may not be posted in the right place as it inst tactical, but it is a stupid question i think (and didn't want to start a new thread for it).

My star centre back from last season Semi Ajayi requested a transfer at the start of the season if a bigger club came in... Well they came in but with shocking offers so we never came to a deal.
A manager from a club who are interested him has started turning up at our games and watching him... on all three occasions, he has 'looked very nervous'... never happened once last season and we have started life in League 1 very well, and he is the only player like it... both at half time and full time and no matter what I say it doesn't help.

So... my question, is he nervous because he knows another potential club's manager is watching him? Or is it a coincidence? Never seen it before in previous FM's...

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6 hours ago, LCFCEaves31 said:

This may not be posted in the right place as it inst tactical, but it is a stupid question i think (and didn't want to start a new thread for it).

My star centre back from last season Semi Ajayi requested a transfer at the start of the season if a bigger club came in... Well they came in but with shocking offers so we never came to a deal.
A manager from a club who are interested him has started turning up at our games and watching him... on all three occasions, he has 'looked very nervous'... never happened once last season and we have started life in League 1 very well, and he is the only player like it... both at half time and full time and no matter what I say it doesn't help.

So... my question, is he nervous because he knows another potential club's manager is watching him? Or is it a coincidence? Never seen it before in previous FM's...

Does he have anything listed in his profile like "feels pressured by the interest in him"?  But yes, what you say is quite possible and it is related to the player personality and probably hidden traits at work.

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1 hour ago, Pivot said:

How to get fast transition from defense to attack?

No expert but I would suggest you need player roles on support or attack duty to get them looking to play upfield, high tempo and try through balls. Perhaps playing direct and a target man who you constantly aim for might work for you. 

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4 hours ago, Dr. Hook said:

Does he have anything listed in his profile like "feels pressured by the interest in him"?  But yes, what you say is quite possible and it is related to the player personality and probably hidden traits at work.

Cannot see anything, other than just wants to leave to player in a higher division...

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So, I have an 'issue' with my tactic in that my team is taking an obscene amount of long shots. Now, I don't know if it's to do with the ME or if it is purely my tactics but I'd say I average around 15-20 long shots a game. 

Like a muppet, I've completely forgotten how to insert images to the forum, so for now I link you to the imgur page right here

As you can see, I had 36 shots, with only 9 on target which is a measly 25% SOT. 19 long shots (52.7%) & 8 (22.2%) blocked which makes up the rest. I didn't create a single clear cut chance in the game.

Now, to give this context - It's December 2022 & I'm a fairly dominant Liverpool side. Last season I finished 2nd in the league & I won the Champions League for the second time with this Liverpool team. In the past month alone, I've beaten Juventus 5-1 & Arsenal 4-1 so scoring isn't a problem but I don't seem to be creating high percentage chances. 

My question is: other than give my attacking players a PI of 'shoot less', what can I do to decrease the amount of long shots being taken? Especially when I already have the TI of 'work ball into box'. 

Side Note: None of my players have the pesky 'shoots from range' ppm. 

 

 

 

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On 3/29/2017 at 09:07, herne79 said:

If that works for you, you find your players develop well and according to how you want them to develop then carry on doing it.

The name of the role that you select for training is irrelevant - it's the attributes that are trained that's the important thing.

I was just wondering about yesterday. Still a though decision to make to experiment with a youngster you want to make sure because a star player.

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17 hours ago, LCFCEaves31 said:

Cannot see anything, other than just wants to leave to player in a higher division...

It sounds like the presence of the coach/scout is causing it, but that his pressure rating is probably not low enough to generate other messages- how cool, to be honest :D

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On 29/03/2017 at 23:28, Fosse said:

I find playing on the control mentality just makes play too aggressive with players starting positions too high, too many forward passes, too much urgency etc etc, this is a daft question is anybody actually achieving success with the control mentality?

I've achieved great success with control at Sporting. I think the key is lowering the tempo a bit if you're looking for more of a possession-based game. Many a time I've watched my players keep their patience on the edge of the opponents 18-yard-box; knocking it about to try and open up gaps. 

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What are downsides of always having "use the offside trap" turned on? What are upsides of turning it off?

Why would we ever want to not try to catch the opposition offside?

 

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7 minutes ago, jjtile said:

What are downsides of always having "use the offside trap" turned on? What are upsides of turning it off?

Why would we ever want to not try to catch the opposition offside?

 

I do not use it in the lower leagues... I don't trust my players intelligence (not sure if that has any correlation or not to perfecting offside but it made sense in my head).
If my defenders step up and time it wrong, it allows the in opposition in at goal. Lower league players aren't always the quickest at recovering the situation either, with low pace and acceleration... I however, may be entirely wrong!
I am sure with quality, quick and intelligent defenders it is a no brainer though.

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3 hours ago, Dr. Hook said:

It sounds like the presence of the coach/scout is causing it, but that his pressure rating is probably not low enough to generate other messages- how cool, to be honest :D

If they have put in purposely... well played, very clever. It's upset me, but it's realistic, so cannot complain!

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3 minutes ago, LCFCEaves31 said:

I do not use it in the lower leagues... I don't trust my players intelligence (not sure if that has any correlation or not to perfecting offside but it made sense in my head).
If my defenders step up and time it wrong, it allows the in opposition in at goal. Lower league players aren't always the quickest at recovering the situation either, with low pace and acceleration... I however, may be entirely wrong!
I am sure with quality, quick and intelligent defenders it is a no brainer though.

This was my guess too - but I wanted to check if it's as simple as: "There's no downside if your players are good enough. Always turn it on unless you have slow/mentally weak defenders"

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15 hours ago, retrodude09 said:

So, I have an 'issue' with my tactic in that my team is taking an obscene amount of long shots. Now, I don't know if it's to do with the ME or if it is purely my tactics but I'd say I average around 15-20 long shots a game. 

Like a muppet, I've completely forgotten how to insert images to the forum, so for now I link you to the imgur page right here

As you can see, I had 36 shots, with only 9 on target which is a measly 25% SOT. 19 long shots (52.7%) & 8 (22.2%) blocked which makes up the rest. I didn't create a single clear cut chance in the game.

Now, to give this context - It's December 2022 & I'm a fairly dominant Liverpool side. Last season I finished 2nd in the league & I won the Champions League for the second time with this Liverpool team. In the past month alone, I've beaten Juventus 5-1 & Arsenal 4-1 so scoring isn't a problem but I don't seem to be creating high percentage chances. 

My question is: other than give my attacking players a PI of 'shoot less', what can I do to decrease the amount of long shots being taken? Especially when I already have the TI of 'work ball into box'. 

Side Note: None of my players have the pesky 'shoots from range' ppm. 

 

 

 

Help anyone? 

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8 hours ago, jjtile said:

This was my guess too - but I wanted to check if it's as simple as: "There's no downside if your players are good enough. Always turn it on unless you have slow/mentally weak defenders"

There is no harm in using it. I wouldn't use it with a deep d-line though, only a high or moderate one.

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4 hours ago, retrodude09 said:

Help anyone? 

How many of those long shots are from free kicks? And do you notice your players just dribbling and then taking a shot?

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2 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

There is no harm in using it. I wouldn't use it with a deep d-line though, only a high or moderate one.

What is the reason you wouldn't use it with a deep d-line? Too little time for defence too correct a failed offsidetrap?

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38 minutes ago, vasilli07 said:

How many of those long shots are from free kicks? And do you notice your players just dribbling and then taking a shot?

I would say 5 or 6 probably. 

Yes, I would say they dribble & take the shot rather than maybe look for a pass.

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I'm 7 years into my Man United save with 18 scouts who are travelling the world and yet my scouting knowledge is only at 40%.How on earth do I get it to 60-70%(if it's possible to get it that high)?

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9 minutes ago, retrodude09 said:

I would say 5 or 6 probably. 

Yes, I would say they dribble & take the shot rather than maybe look for a pass.

You can consider changing 1-2 player roles(you have 4 players who dribble more now) that doesn't have dribble more. The DLF could be a good replacement for the CF, add in roam from position and you will get a similar CF role without run with ball. Or you can use the dribble less TI which encourages a pass 1st mentality.

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What's the likelihood of a player ever learning a PPM that a coach says they can't see being successful? I want one of my young attacking midfield prospects to learn to play more one-twos but every single coach (starting with the more obvious ones first of course i.e attacking and technique based coaches) says the same thing, they don't think it will be successful and recommend he learns to play more killer balls instead. Now this player I intend to use as a shadow striker not a playmaker so I don't want to use their suggestion, however I've ignored their advice twice now and twice the player has been unsuccessful in learning the one-two trait.

Is he ever going to succeed or has it been determined already that he'll never be able to learn it? Would better coaches make a difference?

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26 minutes ago, Weezer said:

What's the likelihood of a player ever learning a PPM that a coach says they can't see being successful? I want one of my young attacking midfield prospects to learn to play more one-twos but every single coach (starting with the more obvious ones first of course i.e attacking and technique based coaches) says the same thing, they don't think it will be successful and recommend he learns to play more killer balls instead. Now this player I intend to use as a shadow striker not a playmaker so I don't want to use their suggestion, however I've ignored their advice twice now and twice the player has been unsuccessful in learning the one-two trait.

Is he ever going to succeed or has it been determined already that he'll never be able to learn it? Would better coaches make a difference?

i think it depends on the ability of the coach as well as the player himself. This has happened to me many time and i find it best just to ignore the coach's advice and press ahead with the training anyway. Sometimes they learn the move the coach said they wouldn't, sometimes they don't. Each case is different

 

 

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14 hours ago, VV Bal op de Lat said:

What is the reason you wouldn't use it with a deep d-line? Too little time for defence too correct a failed offsidetrap?

An offside trap is used to compress the space the other team plays in. Using a deeper defensive line means standing off your opponents, which will give them time and space on the ball to pick out a pass. It also means that the opposing striker will probably have a running start on your defender, which makes him harder to catch. And as you mention it does indeed make it more difficult for your defenders to catch him if he breaks the offside trap. 

 

Your D-line and pressing should always be aligned, that's to say that a high defensive line should be coupled with higher pressing (no need to do this manually, you'll see the tactics creator automatically adjusts). Otherwise your opponents will be able to knock accurate balls in behind. Likewise, when using a deeper line a team should stand off a little more to avoid conceding too much space between the lines. 

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When looking for Registas or Roaming Playmakers in DM position, i believe it's vital to have good positioning and off the ball? Positioning its pretty clear they need, and off the ball because both roles use roam.

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Which midfield trio would you recomend to 4-2-3-1? (Control mentality, normal tempo, short passes, high defensive line) + Complete Striker

DLP (S) - CM (S) - AP (A) 

DLP (S) - CM (D) - AP (S) 

BBM - DLP(D) - AP (A)

DLP (S) - CM(D) - OM (A)

BBM - DLP (D) -OM (A)

BBM - DLP (S) - AP (A)

BBM - DLP (S) - OM (A)

 

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Any suggestions on what I can do in FMT to stop this player ruining great goal scoring opportunities like this?  Pace of 18 and yet Tim Cahill with pace of 12 catches him possibly due to Hahn's rather low dribbling stat of 11.  Extremely frustrating, especially when watching Costa at the other end dribbling for fun despite himself having a low dribbling stat!!  I don't doubt that having lowish composure and first touch helped much either.  Obviously a chance like this you need to run with the ball so is it just a case of putting him on dribbling training or is a role change called for?  He is down as a CF S and has done very well but obviously a CF S has hard coded "dribble more".  One doubts whether as say a DLF he would have been in a position to run on to it anyway and the other striker is a DLF so don't want to have two.  Maybe a Defensive Forward as you can dribble less but the situation requires dribbling so is dribbling training all I can do?

Before anyone says buy another striker it was my only affordable option with my other strikers out injured for three months!!

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@Sussex Hammer its off a system generated counter attack, not sure if it came off a corner or an attack. If its a corner, you need to relook your settings cos you don't want him to be the last one to get the ball, and that can be set up. If its an attack that failed and you are countering, then I would be looking at your shape too. Without having too much information, I am more inclined to choose Poacher

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Thanks Rashidi.  Funnily enough it came from defending a free kick and Hahn is indeed the striker left forward, although bizarrely after looking back at my set piece set up even though he is meant to stay forward you will actually notice that he obviously ignores orders and is actually in the penalty area!!  Mind you it's a further out free kick so none of the defending free kick settings are as they would be for a closer free kick.  I tried out a 4132 in that game.  Four defenders, an Anchor, three narrow midfielders and the two strikers.

I could try him as a poacher but they don't make any effort to defend do they?

Slightly longer vid showing the start.  By the way not sure why one of the coaches is taking a throw in at the end of the clip!!! 

 

Mind you on this evidence from the same game he wouldn't be much good as a poacher either!!  :rolleyes:

 

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A stupid question (obviously):

Is it possible to press the backline and the goalkeeper with a strikerless tactic? If so, how?

A little form of explanation: I play a 4-4-2, with the strikers in the AM postitions. Inspired by a team like Atlético, I want my team to press high in the field, but if that doesn't succeed, I want to play with everyone behind the ball, so that's why I need my strikers in the AM strata, and why I can't set my defensive line too high. I try the emulation with standard instructions on 'counter', normal defensive line en closing down. But even when giving my AM's the highest closing down possible, they don't seem eager to press the backline or the keeper. 'Prevent GK distribution' doesn't help either.

Any tips or tricks?

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5 hours ago, Sussex Hammer said:

Thanks Rashidi.  Funnily enough it came from defending a free kick and Hahn is indeed the striker left forward, although bizarrely after looking back at my set piece set up even though he is meant to stay forward you will actually notice that he obviously ignores orders and is actually in the penalty area!!  Mind you it's a further out free kick so none of the defending free kick settings are as they would be for a closer free kick.  I tried out a 4132 in that game.  Four defenders, an Anchor, three narrow midfielders and the two strikers.

I could try him as a poacher but they don't make any effort to defend do they?

Slightly longer vid showing the start.  By the way not sure why one of the coaches is taking a throw in at the end of the clip!!! 

 

Mind you on this evidence from the same game he wouldn't be much good as a poacher either!!  :rolleyes:

 

Depends on your mentality I reckon, but why would you want him to defend? You don't have any outlets after that...In episode 10 of Gloucesters save, we played counter/very fluid against Arsenal, and the boys defended well and made each chance matter. So sometimes it depends on the overall setup.  Remember too, the only real thing you can influence from set piece defending is who takes the ball out first...after that the AI takes over

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1 hour ago, Kcinnay said:

A stupid question (obviously):

Is it possible to press the backline and the goalkeeper with a strikerless tactic? If so, how?

A little form of explanation: I play a 4-4-2, with the strikers in the AM postitions. Inspired by a team like Atlético, I want my team to press high in the field, but if that doesn't succeed, I want to play with everyone behind the ball, so that's why I need my strikers in the AM strata, and why I can't set my defensive line too high. I try the emulation with standard instructions on 'counter', normal defensive line en closing down. But even when giving my AM's the highest closing down possible, they don't seem eager to press the backline or the keeper. 'Prevent GK distribution' doesn't help either.

Any tips or tricks?

Very high defensive line, and max closing down for the front 2...though this will depend on what you are playing against.

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Hi everyone!

I'm new here and if I post in wrong place, please for your patient and understanding. My english is poor, so I try simply explain what I want to ask.

Namely, is it possible to get "overall" training reports (after month) about progress reserve team and youth team? Currently I get only summary report training about 1st team.

Thank you, I greet
 

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22 hours ago, mikcheck said:

When looking for Registas or Roaming Playmakers in DM position, i believe it's vital to have good positioning and off the ball? Positioning its pretty clear they need, and off the ball because both roles use roam.

Do you guys also pay attention to off the ball attribute? Tks

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7 hours ago, Rashidi said:

Depends on your mentality I reckon, but why would you want him to defend? You don't have any outlets after that...In episode 10 of Gloucesters save, we played counter/very fluid against Arsenal, and the boys defended well and made each chance matter. So sometimes it depends on the overall setup.  Remember too, the only real thing you can influence from set piece defending is who takes the ball out first...after that the AI takes over

Thanks Rashidi.  Do you have any fast and hard rules re fluidity these days?  It's the one thing that still baffles me really because when I play games in friendlies using different Team shapes I really can't see the difference on how the players interact.  At the moment I am not using any specialists (unless I try that poacher out) so in a 4132 is there a fluidity you would choose particularly?

BTW Set piece defending is a nightmare.  I am giving away several penalties a season because the opposition just lumps it in from 35 yards and suddenly penalty.  Obviously you just see a coming together of players at best so it's difficult to see what's gone on.  Considering those long free kicks are controlled by the AI is there anything I can do/control?  For instance would "get stuck in" promote aggressive defending at set pieces?  or Would having defenders with high aggression mean the higher likelihood of a penalty being conceded?  That sort of thing.   My heart is in my mouth every time one of those is launched into my area.  I guess the obvious thing would be to stop giving away free kicks in the first place!!!

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And for Roaming Playmaker or Regista playing in DM spot, isn't off the ball important too? Both roles roam from position, that's why i'd like to know if you also consider it important? Tks

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@Sussex Hammer  Tbh there's a myth on the forums I have not bothered to correct which is very fluid shouldn't be used with poor teams. Well idc really when it comes to fluidity. Fluidity just makes a team more likely to behave as a unit. The only hard and fast rule I have is never use Overload with fluid. Cos your whole team wants to kamikaze.. For all other mentalities, fluidity is fine...so the more fluid you are the more players in your team react to transitions, and the only defining thing would be duties. The whole specialists vs generalists thing is redundant now, its not even relevant since the change to Shape, in fact even SI have told me there is no correlation between the two. So I wouldn't worry about it. I am also playing a 4132 this time around and I switch between shapes to get my players involved in transitions. Lower mentalities = slower transitions, .lower shapes = more distinct transitions involving specific players

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Not exactly a question, but a very nice example of how efficient tutoring can be. I choose my captain Wim Mennes (39 years old, 17 determination, faithful personality) as a mentor for this player. From august til october, his level of determination has rise from 8 tot 17. As a matter of fact, in one month, he already developed it from 8 to 15. Really makes a difference, especially in LLM.

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How would a high/low teamwork attribute affect the behavior of a player who plays in a role that doesn't require that attribute, let's say - anchor man?

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Thanks Rashidi....  Another question if I may.  Not sure why but since the last patch I have been giving away an awful lot of penalties from when crosses, corners, throw ins or free kicks get launched into my penalty area.  It's just a coming together of players (or that's what it looks like) but any sort of contact and it's a penalty.  It's getting so silly that I wince every time I see an aerial ball come in as I know it will end up in a penalty.  Any ways of stopping or at least limiting this?

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I am trying to build a tactic for a lower league team, consisting of only youth player, using an highly structured team shape with a high workrate, high teamwork players.

I am going over the System fluidity page in the manual, and it's a little confusing to me.

That's from section 4. Summary of player roles:

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tactical roles that include a greater number of attacking and defensive role types that enable a player to perform a positional responsibility to a greater extent are considered to be specialist player roles, while tactical roles that include a lesser number of attacking and defensive role types that enable a player to perform a positional responsibility to a greater extent are considered to be generalist player roles.

I don't understand that explanation. Also, there is a list of specialized roles with a number before each of them, what does that number represent?

How come an ap/a is specialized and ap/s isn't, or wb/s isn't and wb/a is.

A poacher isn't specialized and a complete forward is? 

Can someone please clear this out for me, because I can't make sense of it all.

 

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1 minute ago, ppl_unicode said:

I am trying to build a tactic for a lower league team, consisting of only youth player, using an highly structured team shape with a high workrate, high teamwork players.

I am going over the System fluidity page in the manual, and it's a little confusing to me.

That's from section 4. Summary of player roles:

I don't understand that explanation. Also, there is a list of specialized roles with a number before each of them, what does that number represent?

How come an ap/a is specialized and ap/s isn't, or wb/s isn't and wb/a is.

A poacher isn't specialized and a complete forward is? 

Can someone please clear this out for me, because I can't make sense of it all.

 

That's not the manual. The online manual can be accessed at the top of the page.

It's wrong in some areas and inconsistent in others - especially regarding the tactical side of the game. You'd need to ask its creator.

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My CMs will move further to the sides in the tactical creator if I push my DM into the CM strata. Is this actually happening in the matches as well or is this only depicted like that on the tactics creator screen? If I watch the matches I do not really see an effect. I must note that my new central CM still plays behind the other CMs in possesion. because of his lower mentality.

The idea was that a flat midfield might exploit the half-spaces better if the outer CMs are actually pushed to the sides, compared to a triangle with a DM.

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31 minutes ago, Hoptoad said:

My CMs will move further to the sides in the tactical creator if I push my DM into the CM strata. Is this actually happening in the matches as well or is this only depicted like that on the tactics creator screen? If I watch the matches I do not really see an effect. I must note that my new central CM still plays behind the other CMs in possesion. because of his lower mentality.

The idea was that a flat midfield might exploit the half-spaces better if the outer CMs are actually pushed to the sides, compared to a triangle with a DM.

It depends on their role/duties and attributes how exactly they move- if you are using a CM-D or a DLP-D as sort of a pushed up DM, then the two CMs will still play fairly centrally as the third man will be occupying a deeper position.

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