Kyle Seddon Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Cont: Transfers In/Out: Summer Found it very difficult to bring in players from rival clubs, Dortmund wanted £56 million for Hummels and £130 million for Goetze? Having a laugh. Schalke wanted in excess of £40 million for Howedes. Looks like I'm going to have to bring German players through myself. Bring on the challenge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quaazi Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Just found out Götze got a 9 month long injury in my game. Basically he out until his 20th birthday... The question is - will the probably cut down price for which he'll be available be worth it despite the inevitable and for all intents and purposes, immeasurable decline in PA? Still, a real pity a great talent like that has to suffer such an injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Just found out Götze got a 9 month long injury in my game. Basically he out until his 20th birthday...The question is - will the probably cut down price for which he'll be available be worth it despite the inevitable and for all intents and purposes, immeasurable decline in PA? Still, a real pity a great talent like that has to suffer such an injury. Think he is still young enough to reach his PA, had he been a bit older then that may not have been the case. Curse of the freak accidents, Ribery for me is out for 6 months with a broken leg, at the age of 30 this could signal the end, he had just won the Golden Ball and crowned World Player of the year! Hope he is stats won't dip too much that he is not part of the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 On a brighter note, just got Hummels. I won't say how much for. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Coming along nicely: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quaazi Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I think your Ribery could, retirement forbidding, still end up as a great playmaker. His physicals will start dipping pretty soon, but if his mental attributes rise as a result, he could end up as your first option for a trequartista Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I think your Ribery could, retirement forbidding, still end up as a great playmaker. His physicals will start dipping pretty soon, but if his mental attributes rise as a result, he could end up as your first option for a trequartista Never thought of that. Cheers quaazi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_wunderkind Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 On a brighter note, just got Hummels. I won't say how much for. lol Come on tell us! My winter transfers Jan 2014 were as follows: Ins: Outs: League table: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_wunderkind Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Just wanted to share some of the youth talents that came through the academy last two years: Best one from the first season: He came in the second season and will feature as a right back backup this year and maybe more in a few years: He is the best from the second season intake - touted to be the next Franz Beckenbauer as well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quaazi Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 Very nice regens. Trabelsi's low bravery looks like a potential Achilles' heel, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_wunderkind Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share Posted November 13, 2011 Very nice regens. Trabelsi's low bravery looks like a potential Achilles' heel, though. I try tutoring him with a really brave player in Luiz Gustavo at the moment and hope it will help... If it doesn't, I will sell him on big profit probably... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 German Bundesliga Season 2012-13 - Part 2 Results: German Bundesliga Table: German Cup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Cont: Champions League: January Transfers: In: Hummels - £33.5 Milliom. Out: Gustavo, Chelsea - £6 Million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Booooo in beating Hoffenheim . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 No one playing as Bayern today? Lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Season 3 Bundesliga Update 2012/13 Part 1 Bayern Munchen: Results: German Bundesliga Table: Lost only the once. Had hoped to go the whole distance without losing but its such a hard feat to manage. Champions League Table: Some poor performances, against Paris (away) and Salzburg (away) led to me coming second. I have Atletico Madrid in the second round and having won the Champions League last season, am expecting to at least reach the final again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnet_steve Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Hi. German_wunderkind. Could you please give a few more pointers as to how you have set up your tactics, especially the 4231 that they play in real life ? I would like to know passing style, creative freedom, closing down, tackling, marking, crossing, roaming, use of playmaker/target man, shouts used, if any sliders are altered, set pieces, set piece takers etc. I am struggling to get a consistent tactic that emulates real life FC Bayern play. From what I have seen, they try to dominate posession and let the two wingers run at the opposition with the ball. Schweinsteiger dictates play from deep. Kroos runs forward and cuts inside to shoot, Boateng (as DR) runs forward and crosses from wide, and Gomez seems to be able to score with little effort. Also, Schweinsteiger usually plays on the left in every game I have watched. My ambition is to do similar to you. I want an entire team composed of German players within 5 seasons. (A sort of five year plan). I would also like to manage the German national team using only Bayern players. My game has them not greyed out currently - however the next steam update may alter that... I am a liitle frustrated with the transfer system as I believe that the boards of many rivals would not refuse large-ish sums of cash for the players I want. Neuer moved to Bayern, why wouldn't others do this too ? Also, could you post a link or PM me where to get the team photos and badges for the Bundesliga ? Thanks. Really well written Team report. I will start some posts in this thread once I get going in my Bayern save. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 May not need Gotze after all. Regens are coming on rather well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
german_wunderkind Posted November 15, 2011 Author Share Posted November 15, 2011 Hi.German_wunderkind. Could you please give a few more pointers as to how you have set up your tactics, especially the 4231 that they play in real life ? I would like to know passing style, creative freedom, closing down, tackling, marking, crossing, roaming, use of playmaker/target man, shouts used, if any sliders are altered, set pieces, set piece takers etc. I am struggling to get a consistent tactic that emulates real life FC Bayern play. From what I have seen, they try to dominate posession and let the two wingers run at the opposition with the ball. Schweinsteiger dictates play from deep. Kroos runs forward and cuts inside to shoot, Boateng (as DR) runs forward and crosses from wide, and Gomez seems to be able to score with little effort. Also, Schweinsteiger usually plays on the left in every game I have watched. My ambition is to do similar to you. I want an entire team composed of German players within 5 seasons. (A sort of five year plan). I would also like to manage the German national team using only Bayern players. My game has them not greyed out currently - however the next steam update may alter that... I am a liitle frustrated with the transfer system as I believe that the boards of many rivals would not refuse large-ish sums of cash for the players I want. Neuer moved to Bayern, why wouldn't others do this too ? Also, could you post a link or PM me where to get the team photos and badges for the Bundesliga ? Thanks. Really well written Team report. I will start some posts in this thread once I get going in my Bayern save. Steve. Alright. The formation we talk about is this one right? Those are the team instructions I employ: I have not ticked the box for Schweinsteiger being the primary playmaker, since I believe that he does that as a dlp in his role anyways and Robben and Ribéry might not get enough touches that way. I use him in the right spot of the two central midfielders since this is the flank he is coming from originally when he played as a right winger and Luiz Gustavo on the left since this is his preferred flank. I also think you can't really say one of them play 'on the right side', because especially Schweini moves around the whole pitch. I have no further player instructions employed. P.s.: If you would go on an experiment to figure out how Bayern plays the same way on FM as in real life, this would be a great contribution to this thread. I do not have enough time on my hands right now, since the university exams will start in a few weeks... Could be in the style of this: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/275877-The-Barcelona-Style-My-Interpretation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Not sure what people's views are on Markoutz. I'm trying to get him to his potential of 3.0 but he has such terrible mental/physical stats. I have managed to get his Determination up but will it be enough? He has just scored a blinder of a goal, all of 30 yards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Markoutz has gone and just got 3 goals in 3 games since my post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraftwerk Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 How did you manage to get his determination up that much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quaazi Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Such a highly specialized player would, if not become a member of your team, fetch a considerable sum on the transfer market. My advice - tutor him with your best players (looking at his stats, Robben might be a great tutor if he has a high enough determination), loan him somewhere where he can raise his value a lot, and reassess the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Such a highly specialized player would, if not become a member of your team, fetch a considerable sum on the transfer market.My advice - tutor him with your best players (looking at his stats, Robben might be a great tutor if he has a high enough determination), loan him somewhere where he can raise his value a lot, and reassess the situation. Thanks quazzi, think i'll loan him out, see how he gets on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 How did you manage to get his determination up that much? Had him tutored by several different players, can't remember who exactly. Fined him for poor performance once and few weeks later his determination had risen by two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Season 3 part one is now updated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraftwerk Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Had him tutored by several different players, can't remember who exactly. Fined him for poor performance once and few weeks later his determination had risen by two. Never realised fining players had such an influence. Good tip. What role is everyone using Thomas Müller in? His technical stats are ridiculously underrated. 14 finishing lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quaazi Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I can't decide if he should be a playmaker at CAM, a poacher at ST, or an inside forward at RW. Basically, he's whatever the situation requires. Thanks to his huge mental stats, it usually works quite well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porthos Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 That 14 finishing sure doesnt harm his goals to shots ratio on my save. Literally scores 75% of his chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Markoutz is reluctant to go out on loan :/ Had offers from Peterbrough,Everton, Molde, Watford, some team in Seria B and rejected all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 New youth intake and this is the best of the lot. Rated at 4.5 The new Gomez?: Good bravery attribute and will get him tutored. Hope he lives up to his potential. This is Emre Can after three seasons for me: Rated still at 3.5 and only at 2.0 Oliver Markoutz after three seasons and he wouldn't go out on loan: Rated at 3.0 and currently on 2.0 So potential in both still to rise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraftwerk Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Are you using a specific training schedule mate? Very nice regen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Are you using a specific training schedule mate? Very nice regen. Just using a training schedule i created myself. Nothing fancy but it seems to work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Nice going Kyle! Also going to start a game with Bayern as soon as I reinstalled my FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Scout just came back with this: He is definitely getting bought. What are your views? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 The whole idea of an all German team does not look taking shape. Scouts are bringing back all these amazing Brazilian and Argentinian regens. I don't know what to do lol. A team full of brazilianargentinian players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quaazi Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It never does. The world is full of such promising bargains that restricting yourself to a single nationality is just impossible... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Scout just came back with this: He is definitely getting bought. What are your views? I know its hard, but stick with your original idea. Set you scouts to only search in Germany, Switserland, Austria, Poland and Holland for players under 21. That way you will not get faced with all those amazing South American gems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I am also on the go with my save now. Loaded without having TB, I am playing a 4-2-2-2 now as I don't feel the squad has any great AMC playmakers. I am going to try the "German way" also. And in the winter these players are allowed to move: - Daniël van Buyten - Luiz Gustavo (Arsenal wants him and I am not a real fan of him) - Frank Ribéry (the little bastard has no work rate, determination, teamwork or what so ever and I am looking to replace him with Marko Reus or Patrick Hermann who I gave a -9 in a earlier edit to my DB.) - Breno (not good enough imo) - Pranjic (same) I promoted Emre Can to the first team squad, he is going to play a lot this season, I got Tymoshuck to tutor him. I am still looking for a good DM with lots of strengh to cover the midfield area but no German MC/DM's who are strong on the ball (except for Khedira but no option at this stage) and same for the AMC role who I cannot find a good German player for (yes, there is of course Özil, but same story as Khedira). So I thinking of continuing with my 4-2-2-2 as I like both Gomez and Olic and Pederson and Müller are both also good as strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quaazi Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Yann M'Vila is the go-to guy if you need a solid ball-buster for your midfield. If you insist on a German option, either of the Bender bros...? I have a similar problam with CAM, though. Götze/Özil are too expensive, Reus is a winger, Müller I find works better as a striker, Ribery isn't performing proportionally to his huge wages so planning on selling him in the summer, Robben can't play CAM (and doesn't have the creativity for it anyway), Kroos is my Schweini sub. I have some great prospects in Lucas Andersen and so on, but they won't be ready for at least a few seasons. Have also been playing the 4-2-2-2 for a while now. Possible options for you could be to retrain Alaba for the position. I prefer him on the left flank as a successor to Ribery though (I also got really lucky with his PA). Future options could include Tolga Cigeri from Wolfsburg, he has a huge PA in my game (I don't remember where in the attacking midfield he played though). You could also add Usami to your save if FMRTE allows it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Seddon Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Glad to see more people are playing as Bayern. Keep us all updated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Mike Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Also going to start as Bayern in a minute, just a quick question, can someone remind me of the transfer rules for the Bundesliga please? Ie, how many German/EU players have to be selected.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnet_steve Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 BCFC_Mike, The rules for the Bundesliga changed a few years ago. There are no longer any limits on foreign players. There is however a rule in the Bundesliga where you can only have 4 loaned players per season. The rules for European competitions do have limits for your 25 man squad of: a minimum of 4 players trained at the club for 3 years ages 15-21 and 8 players trained Germany for 3 years ages 15-21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Mike Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Brilliant, thanks Steve. Don't have the best of knowledge for German football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakennusmestari Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Arghh, Ribery's injury history: 8.7.2011 torn calf muscle, 3 months (attributes went down a bit and he never regained them), 7.12.11 pulled hamstring, 3 weeks, 21.1.12 twisted ankle, 3 weeks, and then the worst: 11.4.12 broken leg, 5-6 months. I guess that's pretty much his career then, as the current FM is far too harsh on injured player's CA loss. NOT happy . And when he was able to play, he was great: 18(6) games, 13 goals, 7 assists and Av.R. 7.59. I'm actually quite tempted to edit his broken leg to be less serious. I've no problem with the injury itself, these things happen IRL, but the decline of attributes is way too big, especially because he won't be able to regain them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'd managed to sell Ribéry for 35 mil (euro) ... mainly over 48 months, but ok, he is a gone. Won the Bundesliga with ease, to bad I lost at the final matchday 0-2 to Borussia M. Won the DFB Pokal after penalty's from 1. FC Köln while I was the whole match the better team, and this happends often to me this game, that while I am better in everything else, the team I play always manages to get those sneaky goals. Lost the CL to that damn Barcelona . I was again the better side, but hey playing against Xavi, Messi and Iniesta ... Squad at the moment: Sticking with my "German rule" although I am also open for Austrian and Swiss players. Petersen is on fire this season, but not sure how long that will go on, last year he sucked and he is constaly whining that he wants to be a first team player and is now also transfer listed on request. Looking to offload Olic in the winter transfer window so I can get some money for him. And wanting to bring in Stefan Kießling as his replacement.Also wanted to sign Hummels and Mario Götze, but Hummels would cost me over 50 mil and Götze isn't interested in joining my team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakennusmestari Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Has anyone managed to sign Hummels or Höwedes? I don't know what happened, throughout the first season whenever I scouted them the report said that they were interested, and I kept praising them to create a relationship. But when I reached the end of May, they suddenly aren't interested anymore, according to my scouts, and give negative responses to praise. Can't be a reputation issue, as I won the Bundesliga and German Cup both. Hummels has both me and Bayern in his favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedrik Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I you keep praising players they starting to ignore you at some point. And did they sign a new contract? I also had at some point that Hummels wasn't interested anymore in joining my team, and that was short after he signed a new deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakennusmestari Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Höwedes did sign a new one, but he became uninterested before that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakennusmestari Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 And now, after a few weeks, they both are interested in signing again?? Go figure. Now I'll just somehow have to convince either Schalke or Dortmund to sell their best defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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