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TheBetterHalf Posted June 18, 2012 Author Share Posted June 18, 2012 The First post updated with the following tactics 12.2.2 PLUG & PLAY TACTICS - UPLOADED- Wide 42121 ( Direct Counter) for Underdogs/Middleteams - Promotion with Posh, Hudds & Morecambe Deep 4231 ( Direct Counter) for Underdogs/Middle Teams Wide 451( Direct Counter) for Underdogs/Middle Teams- Great Result with Stoke 2011/12 Narrow Diamond( Direct Counter) for Underdogs/Middle Teams- Top of the table with Norwich 2011/12 Deep 442( Direct Counter) for Underdogs/Middle Teams - EPL Winner with A.Villa 2011/12 Narrow 41221 BOX MIdfield for Top/Middle/Underdog Teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 19, 2012 Author Share Posted June 19, 2012 The First post updated with( a link to) a Narrow 4123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeka Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Will you update more team tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 Will you update more team tactics? Not sure. At the moment I am playing around with these exploiting plug & play tactics. Not really sure what kind of team tactics I would do. Any suggestions ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 TheBetterHalfs Top Team/Middle Team / Underdog Tactic The 352 This small set consist of 4 versions that are to be used as plug & play tactics. The first version is a " Underdog/MiddleTeam High Press", the 2nd a "Underdog/MiddleTeam/TopTeam Lower press" and the 3rd " Is a "High Press version for top teams only". Playing as an underdog, the main versions are the naturally the Underdog ones. If you feel that you have the ability to disturb the opponent by putting a hell of a lot more pressure on them, then use the high press and if you are more scared that you might be dragged out of position by this superior team, then use the lower press version. When seeing that the team stops to close down as a unit, Its also a good option to use the Lower press version, no matter what teams you are or what team you are facing Now, the 4th versions then. Well, its a "Compact and Tight" version used when one wants to sit with men behind the ball and keep possession when breaking up attacks. This does not mean that it will see you have 60+ % possession but it will let you keep it when needed, often restricting the opponent to having their share of the possession in undangerous areas. This version is to be seen as a compliment to the Lower press version only here, we dont seek to get the ball forward as soon as possible. Notice that if wanting to use all 4( or 3 of them) in one save, you have to put them all into the match prep and maybe rename them so that you can tell the difference ( as only the first 10 letters or so are visible) “Its not about the amount of possession but instead where you have it and where you restrict the opponent into having it “ -Various of people The 352 - Why trying something that clearly does not work ? As many of us know, its impossible to replicate the 352 we all see teams playing, no matter if its Juventus or any random Scottish team. The Match Engine simply does not allow the DCs to spread out, the fullbacks/Wingbacks to join the attacks late rather than ahead of the ball when using counter attacks, etc etc. But if we can forget about these issues, lets just enjoy using this formation for what it is in FM The Players Fcleft - Your normal Deeplying Forward …but he does not aim to setup other players but instead he acts more like a linkman, acting in the hole like a Target man on support. I prefer this player to be strong so he is able to hold off the opponent. If he is good in the air, you will see some really nice headers late in attacks when the main goalscorer below has opened up space deep, having stretched the defence. PPMs like “comes deep to get ball” or “plays with back towards the goal” are really helpful. FCRight- An advanced poacher This player should be the main goalscorer. He needs good off the ball stat along with agility and pace. If using a player here that likes to come deep, then this works to as long as the other FC don’t have the same PPM MCright – Attacking Midfielder This player moves into channels and makes runs from deep often. If you have a MC/AMC that likes to get inside the area and that knows how to score goals, this is where you play him. As this player also helps out bigtime in closing down the opposition, its good if he knows how to. Mcleft – Central Midfielder Your normal Central Mid used in a supporting role. As he roams to find free space, its good if he knows how to DMC – Deep Creative Complete DMC - This player is a more creative ballwinner, sitting deeper and denying space as well as hitting killer balls from deep. He is given lots of creative freedom so if you don’t have a player here that is smart enough, then lower this to a level more appropriate Wingbacks - Looking at their settings in the TOP TEAM version and you will find they are different. Use the on that suits your players. ( better crossing, then use the " cross often" setting. Better passer, use the "t-ball often "setting). In the other versions, they are set the same. Here, it´s crucial to have players that can handle running up and down the field, joining attacks, crossing to setup a goal, closing down and opponent. These are perhaps the most important players in the team as failing to get the correct players here and you will suffer Outer DCs - Cover Not much to say here really other than that is a big plus playing left on left and right on right Central DC-Stopper Here we use a stopper that also holds onto the ball, keeping possession until the outer DCs, the DMC and the rest of the team have provided more passing options Tweaks and Shouts As its a plug & play Tactic using classic mode, I use no tweaks(apart from the mentioned focusplay) and shouts are enabled Opposition instruction I have not used any at all but feel free to use them in a manor that suit the actual formation. ( i.e NOT showing MR/L wingers inside if they use overlaping fullbacks Playmaker & Target Man None is used Match prep There is no focus area that i crucial for the flow of the tactic. If you face a team that are great at set pieces and might focus on attacking set pieces as their only chance, use defensive set pieces. If up against a team you know are going to play really deep and compact BUT have poor attackers, then use attacking movement. If up against a team with really pacey and agile FCs, then use defensive positioning etc etc. Naturally, I use Team Work on a heavy workload in preseason but remember that when using a focus area that relates to the match plan ( like def positioning), the workload have no impact what so ever. Pitch Size Looking at the tactic and the circumstance, and you will see the following. Also Notice that if only using the lower press version or the TOP TEAM version, my advice would be different •-Close down heavily: Meaning that the bigger pitch, in theory the bigger area to close down. So teams with players lacking in stamina would prefer a smaller pitch. •Focus the play through the middle: If the pitch is really short, there will be congestion in the middle will struggle to find space.. If the pitch is too long, the gap between our midfield and our strikers will be too long though •- Its a tactic for underdogs, hence opponents are likely to push up and use the width or the field, : Here, a really wide pitch means that these quality players will get too much space •- The deep d-line and the balls into channels - As we play a deep d-line, we can actually use a long pitch and as we play a more direct game, putting those t-balls into channels, we would benefit from this long pitch in our attacks to. So, in short, I would go for a normal length and narrow pitch for underdogs but a wider one for top teams but as there as pros and cons to everythingm, I leave you with these thoughs to reflect over Examples of versions used Naturally, I switch ingame as a reaction to what I see on the pitch but these would be my strarting choices Arsenal H Wigan – High Press Top Team A Wigan - High Press Top Team H Man U – Tight & Compact A Man U – Tight & Compact H Tottenham - High Press Top Team ATottenham - Tight & Compact Everton H Wigan – High Press Underdog/Middle A Wigan – High or Low Press Underdog H Man U – Tight & Compact or Lower press A Man U – Tight & Compact or Lower Press H Tottenham - High Press Underdog/Middle A Tottenham - Tight & Compact or Lower Press Blackburn H Wigan – High Press Underdog/Middle A Wigan –Low Press Underdog H Man U – Tight & Compact or Lower press A Man U – Tight & Compact or Lower Press H Tottenham - Tight & Compact or Lower Press A Tottenham - Tight & Compact or Lower Press DOWNLOAD LINK, CLICK ME The Results Its still trial and error using this formation but I have got really good results with Arsenal, Everton and Blackburn Results from users Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeka Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Try making a 4231 Deep, a 343 4231 Assymetric. This type of tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizane Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 my favorit tactic is 4-2-3-1 with 2 cm's, not deep... the 3-5-2 really good tactic, Ive played a few games with nice resultes in my really small polish team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeka Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 my favorit tactic is 4-2-3-1 with 2 cm's, not deep... the 3-5-2 really good tactic, Ive played a few games with nice resultes in my really small polish team i am not refering to this last tactics. I am refering to the first tactics that this post should be about. Sorry for my english Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Ola Toivonen is a beast as left forward in the 3-5-2 setup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Ola Toivonen is a beast as left forward in the 3-5-2 setup Thats great ! Are you playing with PSV, Sweden or a different team ? Also, how do you find the defence, is it stable enough ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Thats great ! Are you playing with PSV, Sweden or a different team ?Also, how do you find the defence, is it stable enough ? in my inter fun save, i bought ola to try him out 3-4 games he score and assist like messi,havent tested enough yet... will test some during the weekend with different teams. defence seems ok, changed to the tactic mid season so its not even fluid, yet to loose with it, wins vs napoli and roma, do u use corner bug? i score a few from corners, also Sneijder is great as the right midfielder i always struggle to get him to perform Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 in my inter fun save, i bought ola to try him out 3-4 games he score and assist like messi,havent tested enough yet... will test some during the weekend with different teams. defence seems ok, changed to the tactic mid season so its not even fluid, yet to loose with it, wins vs napoli and roma, do u use corner bug? i score a few from corners, also Sneijder is great as the right midfielder i always struggle to get him to perform The corner setting might be a little exploiting as others have pointed out. I on the other hand actually dont score that many from corners. It might be down to that I dont set the corner takers or use a good enough header and the correct place, making it unexploiting etc. Dong hesitate to upload any screens Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 The corner setting might be a little exploiting as others have pointed out. I on the other hand actually dont score that many from corners. It might be down to that I dont set the corner takers or use a good enough header and the correct place, making it unexploiting etc. Dong hesitate to upload any screens Cheers might do that,thinking about trying it at lower legue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Could you please help me with creating or finding a tactic for man utd? Really want to get into a long term save over the summer, used a lot of tactics which massively overachieve in the first season and then cant perform in the second Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 Could you please help me with creating or finding a tactic for man utd?Really want to get into a long term save over the summer, used a lot of tactics which massively overachieve in the first season and then cant perform in the second I know. Its just that its probably not down to the tactics but to man management. Naturally, I will help you with it anyway. Question: Would you consider a narrow version not using any wingers ? I was thinking about the Narrow 41221 BOX midfield in combination with the 4123, using both the AMCs and outer FCs with players like Young, Nani,Rooney etc It would basically be just 2 versions. One attacking( the 41221BOX) and one TIGht & Compact ( the 4123) Thoughts ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 im picking up a save that i have with villa.... i played away to spurs ( 1-1 ) and i think i spotted a issue... for quick strikers there is a gap in defence,between the wb and the defenders,tottenham and defoe found that area and ripped my defence apart... that gap was sooo dangerous,also bale ran in that gap creating a bit of havoc, some 1v1´s when they hit a cross to the open space behind the wb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 im picking up a save that i have with villa.... i played away to spurs ( 1-1 ) and i think i spotted a issue... for quick strikers there is a gap in defence,between the wb and the defenders,tottenham and defoe found that area and ripped my defence apart... that gap was sooo dangerous,also bale ran in that gap creating a bit of havoc, some 1v1´s when they hit a cross to the open space behind the wb Yes, thats the issue with using these 352 version. It not something that can be fixed if wanting to play on the counter. The wingbacks just bom forward regardles of settings and the DCs dont spread as wide as one would like. Naturally, you could use specific man marking but then again, the Dcs would really need to be quick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Yes, thats the issue with using these 352 version. It not something that can be fixed if wanting to play on the counter. The wingbacks just bom forward regardles of settings and the DCs dont spread as wide as one would like. Naturally, you could use specific man marking but then again, the Dcs would really need to be quick have you tried with higher closing down settings on the outer dc´s? maybe that makes them drift more on the sides? or maybe they just push up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 btw,have u tried to do a roy hodgson / Lars Lagerbäck tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 btw,have u tried to do a roy hodgson / Lars Lagerbäck tactic? Yes, the lagerbäck is actually more or less the Deep 442 further up in the thread. Zonal marking, deep MCs, quick wingers, one deep fc and one advanced. Naturally, you could set the FCright to be the Zlatan role, a TQ, but as this was for underdogs in the league system, most c´lubs dont have a player like that. Using a player like Zlatan though, t would be great with the TQ role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Yes, the lagerbäck is actually more or less the Deep 442 further up in the thread. Zonal marking, deep MCs, quick wingers, one deep fc and one advanced. Naturally, you could set the FCright to be the Zlatan role, a TQ, but as this was for underdogs in the league system, most c´lubs dont have a player like that. Using a player like Zlatan though, t would be great with the TQ role just want a tactic that are soooo solid defensivly, like sweden during lagerbäck era,and like hodgson vs france, i enjoy a 1-0 or 2-0 win way more than a 5-3 or 3-2 win Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 just want a tactic that are soooo solid defensivly, like sweden during lagerbäck era,and like hodgson vs france, i enjoy a 1-0 or 2-0 win way more than a 5-3 or 3-2 win You can have that, if you get the players with really good stats in those that matters. Decision, determination, concentration team work etc. Remember that this is easy to achieve with top team in FM and if looking at the results of LL, they where considered a top team in the Q-round and then they build from that when facing teams better than them in the group stage in EM/VM. IN the knockout round though, the opposition are aways too good though, and then they conceeded, just like a middle team will do when giving the opponenets with players like Rooney, R.v.P would do in the EPL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 @Kung: Msn soon ? ( and Jankeke: pm sent9 ( and you to ShirazS) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 @Kung: Msn soon ?( and Jankeke: pm sent9 ( and you to ShirazS) soz went to bed early... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 @Kung: Msn soon ?( and Jankeke: pm sent9 ( and you to ShirazS) Have not been on MSN in a while. Will probably be on later, around match time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeka Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 At day time its litle hard to be on msn but at night probably will be. but this weekend it will be a litle dificult. Sorry for my english. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 i am trying the 4-4-2 deep with udinese adn great sucess, top 4 in table at jan break,clear cl group winners infront of real madrid,won those matches with ease... only worrie is that i let in a few more goals than i like, a question, i bought de jong a striker from some dutch club,u think he fit as left or right striker? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted June 23, 2012 Author Share Posted June 23, 2012 i am trying the 4-4-2 deep with udinese adn great sucess, top 4 in table at jan break,clear cl group winners infront of real madrid,won those matches with ease... only worrie is that i let in a few more goals than i like, a question, i bought de jong a striker from some dutch club,u think he fit as left or right striker? I would say FCright ( no matter if its Siem or Luuk) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kung Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 is luuk... so season over,ended up 2nd, awesome acievement, conceded 36 and scored 75 1 point from legue winners inter... overall a awesomeseason, about corner bug,well, i scored 14 on corners 1 more than 2nd team milan on 13 goals,so not extreme... how should i play next seson? use more higher press more often or? oh,and won italian cup and qurter in CL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheBetterHalf Posted June 29, 2012 Author Share Posted June 29, 2012 Looks really good Anyone else tried the 352 or any of the other formations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deego619 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Ive tried your 4-4-2 with Auckland City (predicted to win the league and have stand out players for the division) and I am struggled to finish 4th (league of 8). I used the top team version. I'm using your 4-2-3-1 (top team) with Zenit and have just played out a 0-0 draw with Tom. Struggled to create any chances using attacking possession. I just don't think your tactics are for me. They may well work with others and I admire your effort in this thread and agree with many of your theorys behind each strategy. But FM this year is 90% motivational based and 10% tactics though so maybe its my team talks I need to address (even though I get a majority green reaction from most). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiet666 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I get upset with the match engine sometimes, my favorite tactic of all time is Denmark's 1984/1986 3-5-2 going 3-1-6. Seeing Laudrup at Swansea made the memory of it return, part of me hopes he tries it out with them but the current system is working superbly. Was trying a Libero out the other day (Vermalen) he got into some hilarious positions bombing forward! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 The 352 Diamond - Set of 4 versions for FM13 using " Classic Tactic", so it wont load in FMC Notice that this is just a beta, just like the game DOWNLOAD LINK BENEATH http://thebetterhalf.freeforums.org/352-diamond-tactic-set-t94.html THE VERSIONS Personally, I use this set to suit my managerial preferences. In some saves, I focus on building a team that relies on quick breaks that uses players with good stats in Strength, Aerobic and Tactics. Here, I am more likely to use COUNTER and OVERLOAD. In some saves, i try to build a team that focus on on passing and possession, using players with good stats in Tactics, Ball Control and Attacking. Here, I will be more likely to use ATTACKING AND CAUTIOUS POSSESSION OVERLOAD Attacking, quick, direct with the aim to overload the opponents defence. We play with a really high line of defence and when getting into possession, the ball is quickly played onto our advanced. ATTACKING POSSESSION Here we play attacking with lots of width with the aim to drag the opponent out of position and make them loose their defensive shape. Possession ?. Well this is the aim anyway. Its not your ordinary possession tactic that produces lots of passes or 75 % possession though. In fact, none of the versions do. To be able to use the most of the pitch we not only use lots of width but also the length of the pitch, hence the slightly deeper d-line than your ordinary possession tactic The aim is to approach the opponent with the ball and drag them out of position by player movement with AND without the ball. COUNTER Quickish, direct and one the counter. Here, the aim is to exploit an already open space rather creating one. CAUTIOUS POSSESSIONHere, the aim is to keep the ball by playing slow and compact, players evaluating every situation one more time before making an easy pass to a team mate. Here, its not about scoring many goal but to control events on the field that we otherwise would not be able to control. Never mind a poor shot on target ratio. It basically happens instead of us loosing the ball in dangerous positions THE PLAYERS Central Defenders-Nothing special DMCright - Creative passer/Deep Playmaker DMCleft - Anchorman/ Defensive Mid/Ballwinner Wingers - The better the team you are, the more complete they have to be. Alsmot like Box2Box Wingers AMC - TQ with Work rate FCRight - Deepcoming FC / Complete FC FCleft - Advanced FC/Poacher Latest Result Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paduardo Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 The download doesn't work for me.Is it supposed to be a .rar file ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 The download doesn't work for me.Is it supposed to be a .rar file ? Yes, as its 4 tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 TBH do you reckon its worth starting a long term save on the updated beta or should I wait till the final release?! Will more things change ME-wise? I know this is a tactic thread, but thought you would be able to give a good answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 TBH do you reckon its worth starting a long term save on the updated beta or should I wait till the final release?! Will more things change ME-wise?I know this is a tactic thread, but thought you would be able to give a good answer. Wait until the release and just use this time to play around with the game. Tactically, there is no reason to wait, but its more fun to do it with the full game, using facepacks, logos, skins etc I have just fininshed 13 different sets that are just slight tweaks from the one I used in FM12 and there is very little difference in results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Wait until the release and just use this time to play around with the game. Tactically, there is no reason to wait, but its more fun to do it with the full game, using facepacks, logos, skins etc Cheers, I'll probs do that then! I've got all my facepacks, logos etc ready so im all set up to go on friday! I think I'm going to do a long term save with Athletico Madrid as they are a team with a lot of potential but still have much improving to do to really challenge in Europe and even within their own league. Just been looking at your tactical sets over at fm base, the 352 diamond looks very interesting so i'll be keeping an eye on the thread to see how it develops! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 The Narrow 4123 Download link - Set of 4 versions for FM13 using " Classic Tactic", so it wont load in FMC Notice that this is just a beta, just like the game THE VERSIONS Personally, I use this set to suit my managerial preferences. In some saves, I focus on building a team that relies on quick breaks that uses players with good stats in Strength, Aerobic and Tactics. Here, I am more likely to use COUNTER and OVERLOAD. In some saves, i try to build a team that focus on on passing and possession, using players with good stats in Tactics, Ball Control and Attacking. Here, I will be more likely to use ATTACKING AND CAUTIOUS POSSESSION OVERLOAD Attacking, quick, direct with the aim to overload the opponents defence. We play with a really high line of defence and when getting into possession, the ball is quickly played onto our advanced. ATTACKING POSSESSION Here we play attacking with lots of width with the aim to drag the opponent out of position and make them loose their defensive shape. Possession ?. Well this is the aim anyway. Its not your ordinary possession tactic that produces lots of passes or 75 % possession though. In fact, none of the versions do. To be able to use the most of the pitch we not only use lots of width but also the length of the pitch, hence the slightly deeper d-line than your ordinary possession tactic The aim is to approach the opponent with the ball and drag them out of position by player movement with AND without the ball. COUNTER Quickish, direct and one the counter. Here, the aim is to exploit an already open space rather creating one. CAUTIOUS POSSESSIONHere, the aim is to keep the ball by playing slow and compact, players evaluating every situation one more time before making an easy pass to a team mate. Here, its not about scoring many goal but to control events on the field that we otherwise would not be able to control. Never mind a poor shot on target ratio. It basically happens instead of us loosing the ball in dangerous positions THE PLAYERS Central Defenders-Nothing special Fullbacks - The better the team you are, the more complete they have to be. Almost like Box2Box Wingbacks DMC - Anchorman/ Defensive Mid/Ballwinner MCRight - Creative passer/Deep Playmaker MCLeft - Hardworking Box2Box FCRight - Inside Forward FCCentral - Advanced FC/Poacher FCleft - Inside Forward Latest Result Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 The Asymmetric 451 If wanting to use a AMR and a WBLeft, then just mirror the fullback/wingback, the AMCr to AMCl and the 2 Mcs Download Link Not that fun to watch but its the points that counts.Here, I have been playing around with an asymmetric formation. The versions are still the same 4 as in my recent sets in FM12 Notice that this is just a beta, just like the game THE VERSIONS Personally, I use this set to suit my managerial preferences. In some saves, I focus on building a team that relies on quick breaks that uses players with good stats in Strength, Aerobic and Tactics. Here, I am more likely to use COUNTER and OVERLOAD. In some saves, i try to build a team that focus on on passing and possession, using players with good stats in Tactics, Ball Control and Attacking. Here, I will be more likely to use ATTACKING AND CAUTIOUS POSSESSION OVERLOAD Attacking, quick, direct with the aim to overload the opponents defence. We play with a really high line of defence and when getting into possession, the ball is quickly played onto our advanced. Very few runs with the ball to make sure that tear the opponents defence apart by moving the ball rather than dribbling.. ATTACKING POSSESSIONHere we play attacking with lots of width with the aim to drag the opponent out of position and make them loose their defensive shape. Possession ?. Well this is the aim anyway. Its not your ordinary possession tactic that produces lots of passes or 75 % possession though. In fact, none of the versions do. To be able to use the most of the pitch we not only use lots of width but also the length of the pitch, hence the slightly deeper d-line than your ordinary possession tactic The aim is to approach the opponent with the ball and drag them out of position by player movement with AND without the ball. COUNTER Quickish, direct and one the counter. Here, the aim is to exploit an already open space rather creating one. CAUTIOUS POSSESSIONHere, the aim is to keep the ball by playing slow and compact, players evaluating every situation one more time before making an easy pass to a team mate. Here, its not about scoring many goal but to control events on the field that we otherwise would not be able to control. Never mind a poor shot on target ratio. It basically happens instead of us loosing the ball in dangerous positions The players are the followingDMC - Anchorman MCright - Creative passer MCleft - B2B Ballwinner AMC - Any really AML - Quick and with good crossing FC - Complete FC for top teams, Quick poacher for underdogs mainly using Counter and Cautious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 The 352 with Sweeper & Wingbacks Download Link Notice that this is just a beta, just like the game THE VERSIONS Personally, I use this set to suit my managerial preferences. In some saves, I focus on building a team that relies on quick breaks that uses players with good stats in Strength, Aerobic and Tactics. Here, I am more likely to use COUNTER and OVERLOAD. In some saves, i try to build a team that focus on on passing and possession, using players with good stats in Tactics, Ball Control and Attacking. Here, I will be more likely to use ATTACKING AND CAUTIOUS POSSESSION OVERLOAD Attacking, quick, direct with the aim to overload the opponents defence. We play with a really high line of defence and when getting into possession, the ball is quickly played onto our advanced. ATTACKING POSSESSION Here we play attacking with lots of width with the aim to drag the opponent out of position and make them loose their defensive shape. Possession ?. Well this is the aim anyway. Its not your ordinary possession tactic that produces lots of passes or 75 % possession though. In fact, none of the versions do. To be able to use the most of the pitch we not only use lots of width but also the length of the pitch, hence the slightly deeper d-line than your ordinary possession tactic The aim is to approach the opponent with the ball and drag them out of position by player movement with AND without the ball. COUNTER Quickish, direct and one the counter. Here, the aim is to exploit an already open space rather creating one. CAUTIOUS POSSESSIONHere, the aim is to keep the ball by playing slow and compact, players evaluating every situation one more time before making an easy pass to a team mate. Here, its not about scoring many goal but to control events on the field that we otherwise would not be able to control. Never mind a poor shot on target ratio. It basically happens instead of us loosing the ball in dangerous positions THE PLAYERS Central Defenders-Nothing special Wingbacks - The better the team you are, the more complete they have to be DMC - Anchorman/ Defensive Mid MCright - Creative passer MCleft -Box to Box Ballwinner/ Central Mid - He needs to be strong FCRight - Deepcoming FC / Complete FC FCleft - Advanced FC/Poacher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brads-Wigan Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Great work TBH, i have used ur tactics in previous FM's with great success!! I looking for a 4-2-3-1 tactic to use with newcastle? any help plz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I've actually been using your '271 TD versions' (for FM12?) to great effect in FM13. My only gripe is I seem to really struggle to break teams down sometimes and the attack version rarely seems to work. Saying that, I've still dominated with the other three versions most of the time. I also tried the asymmetric 451 but just couldn't seem to get going with it and scrapped it. Probably my own fault though as I maybe didn't give it enough time. I'm going to give the narrow 4123 a go next season. I'll let you know how it goes if you're interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 271 TD versions seem to be the most effective for me. I also prefer the way the team plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBetterHalf Posted January 1, 2013 Author Share Posted January 1, 2013 271 TD versions seem to be the most effective for me. I also prefer the way the team plays. Yeah. The "TD" versions from FM12 are the ones ( amongst the 451 with Wingbacks) that in theory should be working the best once the game is fully patched up. All other versions are more or less to be considered workarounds for different ME´s. I think that ones that final patch is out, all the FM12 Tactics as well as the ones build just for FM13 should be working really good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dking Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Have you made any of the tactics for FMC, TBH? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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