knap Posted December 4, 2011 Author Share Posted December 4, 2011 Mostly consolation goals as I don't use SUS tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadsawee79 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 knap ... do you use inverted wingers for your 451 (left footed right side and vice versa) or regular wingers ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 I always use them the right way round unless due to an injury eg Walcott is always on right. Modric I try only to use on left as IMO he plays better on left than right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arafat Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Hello everyone! I've been using knap's tactics since 2010 and they rock! I am going to start this year with liverpool on 12.04. What do you think it's the best tactic for the reds? [EDIT] And what about create a pool? I decided I'll start with l'pool with 442 102 pts. I'll post a mid-season and a full season resume. cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 I was going to do a season with Lpool with 442 myself, with a backup of 451 with potential injuries to forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Hey Knap, You have some brilliant 442's but I just feel that the formation is not exotic enough I prefer lone striker formations but there are not many tried and tested ones. Are you working on any promising ones? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 Shiraz Post 249 for 451 and yes I have a 4231 being tested atm. I have very exotic 451 and 4231 tactics but are not stable so I need to look at setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Not sure how I missed post 249 as I follow this thread religiously Will try it, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Keep up the good work Knap, i'm enjoying your 451 tactic, although it is pretty leaky at the back Both my centre back are tall and good headers, and are getting a few goals between then, I love seeing my centre backs getting such good ratings, even if they are slow Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Knap How is the 4231 coming along for you? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Slow is no good in fm. I have 2 4231s but probably not of a reliable standard. 1 is based on 451 but is more open but may be worth a try, the other is storming with Spurs but not working with other teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 This is painful and not sure how any more games I can stand! Not bad without VP and using players like Arshavin as lone forward. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Knap is that with the 451 tactic still?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 I have not changed since start of season apart from when going down to 10 when I increase TW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapatero Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'm still on patch 12.0.3. Can I use the 12.0.4 tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'm still on patch 12.0.3. Can I use the 12.0.4 tactics? I am sure they will work. All tactics seem to work, even from 12.0.1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Most are the tactics are based on last years 105pts but I thought steam was automatic update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Unless you keep it in offline mode like I do. Then it will not see any of the updates and hence stays on an older version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Knap How much goals have you conceeded with your 451? I have been using it myself and pretty much conceeding at least a goal a game? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 It depends on your defence with MC is was 19 in 38 games. With Arsenal its going to be higher. With Leeds using 442 it was probably a goal a game. The tactics tend to all use zonal tight marking with the DL in middle. If there is a tactic that is watertight let me know and I will look into settings, but usually a tight defence gives poor attacking, so always a balance betwen these two aspects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I am currently using thebetterhalf's Counter the Clocks 41221 from her forum and the defence is pretty good so maybe you can take a look at it? I have played 23 matches, scoring 53 and conceding 18. 7 of the goals were conceded away to Real and Lyon in the Champions League. Considering the level of their squads in comparison to mine, It was not bad. I am Dortmund btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arafat Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Hi! Knap, I started Lpool and already lost to tottenham on 1st game (although i created more ccc's) I take a while starting my seasons because i hire staff, do trainings and mentoring and stuff... I am playing this way: Reina Johnson agger skrtel enrique henderson lucas gerrard downing suarez carrol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 I always look at TBH's tactics. Dortmand are ranked 2nd and Arsenal 5th with not a lot of difference in standard (Dortmund are about Everton level). Arsenal have same record without VP and have played MC twice winning both. TBH uses a more long ball over the top tactic on the counter with individual settings, rather than a higher pressure tactic which can be exposed to the same long balls. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 Spurs are ranked 4th compared to Lpool at 6th so will always be a tough opening game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolph11 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Sorry to be a pain fellas but which one on the OP is the best to download? Or is it the 103pts 451? Can't see that one anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 hi knap, the last 4-4-2 tactic have the same vodu tac runs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 6, 2011 Author Share Posted December 6, 2011 They are last years 105pt SUS tactic runs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Triple for Arsenal using 451 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qadsawee79 Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 knap i am sorry if my question is stupid and silly but what do you usually use for match preparation ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 I just use Ass Man. When I start a game I take first press conference and then go to team policy and tick ass man to take press, teamtalks friendlies and usually arrange friendlies. With the last one, if a small club its worth organising friendlies against top clubs for the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 This is an illustration of friendly resullts with Leeds playing a top team and losing just before season start. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 Bolton was probably a key game for Arsenal to win title. This is an illustration of not using overload tactics or shouts but keep going with a tactic. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arafat Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Hi knap already in Feb with liverpool! reached the league cup final!! in the league things went bad at start -> 2 wins win the 7 first matches the things have slowly getting better now we are 4th, 8 points behind man city and two points ahead man utd!!! 23 games, 15 W, 4D, 4L, 60/18 goals (best attack) I don't consider this a bad season, i'll try to reach champions league. I noticed that the 442 has difficulties against 4231 formations so sometimes i play the 451 and i have good results to end this post, just tell that i've won man utd in anfield by an expressive 7-0 cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 I find playing against the West Brom 4231 awkward. Lpool are certainly downgraded from previous Fms when their deep counter attack 4231 always caused problems. Good to see amix and match approach and not giving up after a bad start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soviet Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 http://i.imgur.com/DTs0Z.jpg My first season in Premier League with my ****** squad . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 7, 2011 Author Share Posted December 7, 2011 How did do in early seasons and what players did you buy? Not enough quality Lower Division threads on the forums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 So whats the best tactic out there atm?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypermonkey Posted December 7, 2011 Share Posted December 7, 2011 Hi knap, do you have a 4222 tactic about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 This would be closest atm. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Is the above tactic the best so far knap? Even better then the 102pt 442? If so, I could do a test Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 The 102pt is still top tactic. I have 3 unreleased 4231 tactics but still looking at ways to improve them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 After testing alot of these tactics, I can say that the 4-5-1 from post #249 seems to be the best of them for pure plug and play, although it could do with being a bit better defensively(I could say that about every tactic in the forum though) Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Steve Have you identified a reason for conceding so many? I have an ultra defensive tactic if you want to try this but cannot be considered plug and play. This is plug and play version. 4231 as above http://www.mediafire.com/?m20i2g7p6gk7301 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I'm not sure as to why, one possibility is slow defenders, but I wouldn't say my defenders were slow, pace of 13+ for a defender is still good in my book. I don't have the players to use a 4231 right now, but will download it and try it out once I get a good AMC. What were your results with the above 4231? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 I used the same formation for complete season, but was changing settings during the season-hence not plug and play. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Great amount of goals you have scored there I still think your 4-5-1 is the best you have released so far though, I have used it a little with Fulham and Swansea and about half a season so far with Ulsan of South Korea and it has been very good, but I can't see me ever scoring that much goals with it! Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YBK Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Great amount of goals you have scored there I still think your 4-5-1 is the best you have released so far though, I have used it a little with Fulham and Swansea and about half a season so far with Ulsan of South Korea and it has been very good, but I can't see me ever scoring that much goals with it! Steve Which 4-5-1? Could you please write down the link, I could not see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Which 4-5-1? Could you please write down the link, I could not see it. Post 249 10char Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arafat Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I tried that on liverpool ãnd I finished second and scored 105 goals!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Leeds season using 422 and Spurs 4231 due to injuries. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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