Preveza Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Knap. Since the 12.0.3 patch, borh 442 variants arent as effective as the previous patch(12.0.2) Before the patch I was blitzing teams. Now Im struggling to dominate teams. Still having some success, but definitely believe the tactic has been affected due to new patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Match Prep Ass Man but doing own team talks. There are probably 4 changes from 105pts to MU and then CD change to MC 100pts tactic. Still with Woking and have not dropped a pt yet so all ok with me. I will look at patch change later but working on 4231. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Woking with updated patch http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/528/bluesquarebetsouthoverv.png/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 4231 so far http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/englishpremierdivisiono.png/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 hey knap with juventus who are the eleven start for you??i bought gary cahill and tremoulinas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxspur Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Simsejensen77 - wow, just wow. I've never seen a GD like that! 90 goals for a striker with 60 for another, that is absolutely outrageous. How did you do it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 what tactic is working with the new update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Knap Keep us updated to your end of season results with you 4-2-3-1. It does use wingers? Also what tactic you using for Woking? MU? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 28, 2011 Author Share Posted October 28, 2011 Steve Do you want to try 4231 with wingers. MU tactic with Woking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Knap if you feel the 4231 is working great, I would appreciate it if you could inbox me it cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Been analysing the new patch and have made tweaks to the 442 Man Utd tactic...Results are awesome so far mate and team likes to get it wide and the football is an absolute pleasure to watch Will post screens later today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickizzard Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 seems a good tactic, but i had 2 games which have annoyed me.. first i played man city and was 3-1 up and then in last 30 mins they score 3 goals and win 4-3 and then the second game against liverpool i was 2-0 up and end up losing 3-2.. any ideas what to do when leading?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 seems a good tactic, but i had 2 games which have annoyed me.. first i played man city and was 3-1 up and then in last 30 mins they score 3 goals and win 4-3 and then the second game against liverpool i was 2-0 up and end up losing 3-2.. any ideas what to do when leading?? Lower mentality, decrease runs and up the time wasting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Knap Yeah I will try your 4-2-3-1 with West Ham if you like? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Hey Knap Can I try your 4-2-3-1 for a lower league team from holland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
donhughberto Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Been analysing the new patch and have made tweaks to the 442 Man Utd tactic...Results are awesome so far mate and team likes to get it wide and the football is an absolute pleasure to watchWill post screens later today Any chance of upping this, i am man utd at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 Are there problems post patch? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Are there problems post patch? yes, i take a lot of goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 Is that with the 100pt tactic which is the tactic I would recommend with this patch, despite no ME changes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Is that with the 100pt tactic which is the tactic I would recommend with this patch, despite no ME changes! Yep Knap let me know if I can test the 4231. With the 12.0.3 patch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burak700 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 what kind of strikers do you suggest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 Post 44 or do a search based on those player attributes. If BSS level then I can recommend free transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 If using 100pts then try 1 step shorter team passing. The 4231 is only 95pts so I will let Steve try it and see if it needs tweaking but may be a good base. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burak700 Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Championship actually,West Ham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Knap Played 5 matches so far with the 4-2-3-1 and it is a good base tactic. Only thing i'm noticing, which may just be ME related, is that there is a hell of alot of long shots! Like most of the highlights/goals seem to come from long shots, even the AI teams are having alot of long shot, which leads me to believe it is ME problem. The 4-2-3-1 keeps a good amount of possession which is great, but my striker(s) just aren't scoring alot, Carlton Cole, who is a good striker for the Championship has scored 1 goal in 5. I haven't tried the MU tactic yet. Does it keep on average, over 50% possession? As the 105pts tactic on FM11 for me was very bad for possession? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 Check the Long Shots as may still have TC setting rather than work ball into box. Possession does not win games so not really high on my agenda, and I never check. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrus Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Have you noticed the left sided central defender (John Terry in my case) scoring lots of goals? This is with against the grain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Knap - which is the best tactic for plug and play in BSP - I've just got promoted with Harrogate using one of your demo tactics - just wondered if there was a better one out there now by you. Cheers bud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 I will PM an updated tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Cheers bud - switched to it now - just in preseason so once I've had a bit of a run with it I'll let you know how it's going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes_Coulam Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I will PM an updated tactic. Any chance of a PM too? Im using your MAN U one in the BSP with Grimsby Town Unbeaten so far after 22 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Any chance of a PM too? Im using your MAN U one in the BSP with Grimsby Town Unbeaten so far after 22 games. wich tactic wes?100 or 97 pt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 MU is 97pts which works fine with Woking 14 games without dropping a point. I have made a few minor change for post patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Knap Have you completed a season with your new tweaked tactic? If so did you get more than 100pts with it? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 knap for patch 12.0.3 wich tactic you reccomend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes_Coulam Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 97 i'm still on 12.0.2 though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didierdeschamps Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Knap, can pm me with an updated tactic?? Too many tactic and I cant decide!~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypermonkey Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Hi Knap, can you PM me the 4231 tactic please! its my favourite formation and would love to test it out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebs Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Knap - from that tactic you PM'd me earlier I played 2 pre-season games - beat Walsall 2-1 and then beat Harrogate Railway (local derby) 5-0 - seems good from the two matches so far - will continue to update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoncz Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 I got fired with your tactic in January. Played with Sheffield Wed. I was starting to loose alot around November adn when i got fired my team was 11th. BTW why is this forum so slow. My CPU run on 50% when i'm typing and text appears in 3-4 seconds after is writen. Very bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Tactic updated for recent patch http://www.mediafire.com/?buv5ucght2vmvf2 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Preveza variation on MU tactic updated for recent patch Increase width, decrease mentality, set tackling to hard and I think I lowered the time wasting. (Note: I do not recommend hard tackling.) http://www.mediafire.com/?fqdtxmv33qaedka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Original patch updated tactic. http://www.mediafire.com/?zwzguhzddcf9u7s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 So which one is the best one knap? The Original updated or the 99pt Man City one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 4231 Tactic made on recent patch but still not convinced, so feedback welcome. http://www.mediafire.com/?7sa5mcfb622eoq5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 The 99pt is the first 442 for FM12 rather than being a revision to 105pts and will therefore be the tactic that I will try to develop and improve over time. However Wes has not lost a game with the 96pts so this has so far good feedback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preveza Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 The 99pt is the first 442 for FM12 rather than being a revision to 105pts and will therefore be the tactic that I will try to develop and improve over time.However Wes has not lost a game with the 96pts so this has so far good feedback. Ok knap cheers. I will test the 99pt now with Forest Green and come back with my findings. Im sure it will impress Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 still have good results with the original MU tactic.. I will test the 99 pts tac. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfive Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Hey Knap, First of all thanks for your great work with tactics. I'm not a big poster, but I follow the forum quite a lot. I'm actually playing with your latest Man City tactics (I love 442) but I have big issues with fullbacks underperforming against 4231 formations. What changes would you recomend? Regards, Hfive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 If using the older pre patch tactics then major changes are :- Shorter passing (1step) Reduced runs on MCL. Please note at Home or easy games you can increase runs to add an attacking edge. In general for a SUS tactic or playing against advanced winger tactics FB runs are reduced. (SUS also add time wasting) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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