Spikester Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Knap Would you say the Rock and Roll tactic is the best 442 so far? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 KnapWould you say the Rock and Roll tactic is the best 442 so far? Steve Yeah this is what I want to know... The 108 point is a fantastic tactic, but away from home against big teams its just doesn't do what it does in all other games. I haven't tried this latest Rock and Roll 442, which of the 442s is the best in your opinion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 In theory the 108pts. Tough away games are a problem area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 In theory the 108pts. Tough away games are a problem area. Tough away games are always going to be a problem with a plug and play tactic, they are irl as well . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 In theory the 108pts. Tough away games are a problem area. Which is the 108pt tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 108PTS http://www.mediafire.com/?vrgzskgomnd5639 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 I don't think its a plug and play issue, just a game issue re home advantage. Your TC tactic is plug and play (which is very good) and I would guess all other decent TC tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I've used both the 108pts and the new Rock and Roll tactic, and in terms of football, the Rock and Roll tactic is much better, keeps a good amount of possession plays nice football and creates alot of chances, but for some reason the 108pts scores more goals, especially the Striker on the right side, with the 108pts tactic he cannot stop scoring, but for some reason with the Rock and Roll tactic the Striker on the right side doesn't play so well. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Steve Rock&Roll is a higher possession tactic and I'm using in BSS. What forwards are you using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Well I'm Wolves, and only player I bought is Aldo de Nigris, he is a decent striker and I play him upfront on the right side, seems to struggle a bit in the Rock&Roll tactic, one other thing is that the Rock&Roll tactic seems to conceed a little bit more goals. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collzy Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Currently manager of Nigeria and I'm tempted to use the 108pts tactic with them for my African Cup of Nations campaign. Who would people recommend as the right striker, Odion Ighalo or Yakubu? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Goal for against ratio is a bit higher for rock&roll. Have you tried the Slow Rock tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Can you use the Slow Rock tactic for the full match? Will give it a try. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Should be OK for a part/full match, just not a main tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 See, what I'm thinking is...the 108pts tactic is clearly the best home tactic going. Perhaps another tactic ( the rock and roll one or perhaps another formation) could be used away against barcelona, arsenal, madrid etc? Has anyone tried this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Typical season, so may be worth trying a defensive tactic for away games against similar strength teams. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 is that rock and roll? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 Revised rock & roll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Nice results, especially at home, you have conceeded alot of goals away from home though, especially since you are City. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 The points are dropped away to the other top sides with about a 50:50 chance. With 5 away games against top sides I can pick up say 7pts with an attacking tactic, and perhaps 8pts with a good defensive tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Finding the balance is the hardest part. Maybe worth making an away tactic, rather than a slow or close out game tactic. Saying that your Rock&Roll tactic plays some great football, but the opposition do get far too much chances against you. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 21, 2012 Author Share Posted April 21, 2012 The problem is making the right decision as to when to use an away tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Well your certainly onto something with your Rock&Roll tactic mate. Look forward to an update on that. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 This Rock&Roll tactic is used with an away tactic. Both tactics use fast TMs to be set up 9set pieces) but TM left unticked. 108pt Rock&Roll 442 http://www.mediafire.com/?3ul10xoa53p2lly Away tactic for when AI are on offensive. http://www.mediafire.com/?bnu3mvf3i13ee99 Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewboo Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 This Rock&Roll tactic is used with an away tactic. Both tactics use fast TMs to be set up 9set pieces) but TM left unticked.108pt Rock&Roll 442 http://www.mediafire.com/?3ul10xoa53p2lly Away tactic for when AI are on offensive. http://www.mediafire.com/?bnu3mvf3i13ee99 Uploaded with ImageShack.us I'm confused- Are these both away tactics or just the bottom one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 What i would like to know is how Knap manages to test so many tactics, The Guy is a Machine, Keep up the great work mate your a credit to the community. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShirazS Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 What i would like to know is how Knap manages to test so many tactics, The Guy is a Machine, Keep up the great work mate your a credit to the community. Agree with this 100 percent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 1st tactic is main tactic and can be used all the time, however, if you feel the need to have an option tactic then use the away tactic as and when needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewboo Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 1st tactic is main tactic and can be used all the time, however, if you feel the need to have an option tactic then use the away tactic as and when needed. I can't get the link for the main one to work Knap mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Cheers Knap. I might try using the 442 i tried earlier as the home tactic and then use the rock and roll away tactic as my away tactic That way ill score a few more goals than the 96 you got with the rock and roll home tactic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Link works for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewboo Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Link works for me As soon as I press download it says 'Unable to connect' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 no idea why but another link http://www.mediafire.com/?3ul10xoa53p2lly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Do you have to put the strikers in the target man box with the new tactic? Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 First result using new r&r 108pts: Not too shabby I did think the opposition had too many chances, but with 9 of them being long shots I wasn't too fussed. Oh and I didnt set anyone as TM as I don't like doing that. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 I had it set up that way with MC but It should not be necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Woking taking down top quality League 1 opposition. I started with away tactic but conceded early so changed to main tactic. Once level I went back to away tactic. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsatsee Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 This Rock&Roll tactic is used with an away tactic. Both tactics use fast TMs to be set up 9set pieces) but TM left unticked.108pt Rock&Roll 442 http://www.mediafire.com/?3ul10xoa53p2lly Away tactic for when AI are on offensive. http://www.mediafire.com/?bnu3mvf3i13ee99 Uploaded with ImageShack.us I've just would like to ask, int these tactics which striekr could be the "poacher" style? Regards tsatsee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 This is my standard set up with poacher on left. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 I used away tactic against other top sides (MU,Arsenal, Chelsea etc). My preference is the 106pts. The form over a season is only an indication of potential of tactic. When not using MC, I can tweak a tactic say against 3 at back to increase passing of FBs and play down flanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Flag Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Hi Knap, I'm using your rock and roll home and away tactics adapted into a 4411. Very happy with the results and the shape of the team however I've found that most of the goals I score are from my front two who get an incredible amount but I would like to try and share the goals around the team. I've tweaked the wide midfielders a lot trying to get them involved in scoring more but with no real success. Has anyone else found this and are there any suggestions? Aside from that well done and thank you. Lots of good tactics out there but this for me is the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllInAll Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Knap do u drop both strikers as TM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 Not sure what you are asking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 27, 2012 Author Share Posted April 27, 2012 Update on post 859 - I highly recommend setting up TMs despite not having TM box ticked with 108pt Rock&Roll. Results with this set up. Uploaded with ImageShack.us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
creasingbulldog Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Heey knap what off yours tactics would be best for wigan first season 12.04 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 Specific for that patch the 102pts from post 1. Otherwise the latest 108pts Rock & Roll or 451 quad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
creasingbulldog Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Specific for that patch the 102pts from post 1. Otherwise the latest 108pts Rock & Roll or 451 quad. Ehm the patch dident matter that much, just wanted the tactic that would suit wigan best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 28, 2012 Author Share Posted April 28, 2012 The latter tactics have not been tested on earlier patches. If just fomation then between 442 or 451. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyontour Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 what tactics worlk for the newest pacth all of them or the one that says newest patch and below? sorry for being dumb lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 Newest and below and should say 12.2.2 in tactic name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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