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Im looking for a pc thats so powerfull it will make my floor vibrate when procesing through all the leagues ill have loaded on fm, i am so sick of messing around with my stupid pc that wont play the 3d game right,

please any pc experts out there point me in the right direction

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Alienware?

Seem to be very high-spec but costly.

Or build your own for a lot less cost.

I built my own, took me about 6 hours when I'd got everything in the post but I've now got an awesome machine.

I paid around £1200 for my set up, in the shops, it'd cost double that, easily.

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8x Xeon E7-8870 (yes, 8 processors - these chips individually are around the same speed as the 990X but the 990X cannot be put into parallel) - http://ark.intel.com/products/53580/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8870-%2830M-Cache-2_40-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI%29 [£23,479]

Super Micro X8OBN-F motherboard (http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon7000/7500/x8obn-f.cfm) [can't find a price, but these are upwards of £4,500 using this]

256 GB DDR3 ECC RAM (1,333 MHz) [£2,000]

4x 4 GB AMD FirePro V9800 (quicker than the nVidia Quadro 6000: http://hothardware.com/printarticle.aspx?articleid=1565) [£8,800]

So even before we get into all the fun bits, that's around £40,000.

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FM is totally cpu dependant. 8gb ddr3 1333mhz ram will be more than enough for you, no point in going for 16gb or more expensive 1600+ mhz modules.

I guess you'd be best off with an i7-2600k and a z68 mainboard, add in a quality heatsink so that you can overlock to 4.5-4.8 GHz without any trouble. In order to overlock i7-2600k any further, you'd need to disable hyper-threading in the bios, but as FM would utilize the added threads while calculating the match results, don't do this. Such a system would cost quite little. Add in a minimum 64gb ssd, but if money doesn't matter, a 128gb one, speed really doent matter for fm, and you're fine.

GPU-wise go with HD6850, that's the best performance/price ratio gpu at the monent on the market, and more than enough for fm.

Anything above this would yield diminishing returns on your money, so for anything 10% better you'd have to pay at least twice this much.

Are you willing to buy a branded pc, or want to put it together yourself? Also, where do you live? Let me know these so that I can help.

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I recently bought the Alienware Aurora R3, and upgraded the memory, graphics card and processor. Probably could of made one cheaper but i dont have any knowledge of building my own. Spent just over £1100 and im very happy with it.

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In all seriousness, if money is no object, go for a Dual Xeon or Quad Opteron workstation with 4 graphics cards and maximise your RAM.

For example, take this and maximise everything.

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Just don't get an alienware; They are never ever worth it.... Well apart from the sweet cases, those are awesome.

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Just don't get an alienware; They are never ever worth it.... Well apart from the sweet cases, those are awesome.

But money is no object. :)

(Of course, Alienware PCs are still not the most powerful out there, but hey, they are so pretty...)

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In all seriousness, if money is no object, go for a Dual Xeon or Quad Opteron workstation with 4 graphics cards and maximise your RAM.

For example, take this and maximise everything.

Seriously, would it make any sense? It not sensible, and I'm not sure if it's going to be any faster than the i7 I mentioned. The close-to-perfect system for FM2012 can be done out of 800gbp without a question. No matter how much money the guy, it would make no sense to a buy a xeon, which was made for totally different tasks, and I'm not even sure if it would outperform the way cheaper i7 in fm. also, 4 gpus?... Please. for FM it would just overcomplicate things. 0 performance increase from an excess 600gbp price. No point.

Op, send me a pm if possible here (dunno, just regged), and I'd be glad to help you out.

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8x Xeon E7-8870 (yes, 8 processors - these chips individually are around the same speed as the 990X but the 990X cannot be put into parallel) - http://ark.intel.com/products/53580/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8870-%2830M-Cache-2_40-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI%29 [£23,479]

Super Micro X8OBN-F motherboard (http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon7000/7500/x8obn-f.cfm) [can't find a price, but these are upwards of £4,500 using this]

256 GB DDR3 ECC RAM (1,333 MHz) [£2,000]

4x 4 GB AMD FirePro V9800 (quicker than the nVidia Quadro 6000: http://hothardware.com/printarticle.aspx?articleid=1565) [£8,800]

So even before we get into all the fun bits, that's around £40,000.

wow when i said money no object i didnt expect 40 large lol

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Dell Alienware R3-5491 Aurora Desktop PC (Intel Core i7 2600 3.4GHz, 8GB, 2TB, DVDRW, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit)

this is the one i might be going for its from amazon its £1,799.99

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Seriously, would it make any sense? It not sensible, and I'm not sure if it's going to be any faster than the i7 I mentioned. The close-to-perfect system for FM2012 can be done out of 800gbp without a question. No matter how much money the guy, it would make no sense to a buy a xeon, which was made for totally different tasks, and I'm not even sure if it would outperform the way cheaper i7 in fm. also, 4 gpus?... Please. for FM it would just overcomplicate things. 0 performance increase from an excess 600gbp price. No point.

Op, send me a pm if possible here (dunno, just regged), and I'd be glad to help you out.

A dual-Xeon or quad-Opteron would blow your i7 to pieces in all honesty... http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/03/31/amd-opteron-6174-vs-intel-xeon-x5650-review/6

It's two processors, which will always be quicker than one.

Would it make sense, though? Probably not, but the OP said money is no object... How long is a piece of string? :)

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Dell Alienware R3-5491 Aurora Desktop PC (Intel Core i7 2600 3.4GHz, 8GB, 2TB, DVDRW, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit)

this is the one i might be going for its from amazon its £1,799.99

Go via the Dmx Dimension link I showed you and you'll get the same for £1200!

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=D00ASW05&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756&acd=6ebb270d99dcfa3938cbea13f5c0cced

Select the 8GB RAM option, then add 0TKH4PZ8673N1Q coupon code at the end. Exact same spec for less money

Edit: you could even add a SSD...

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Dell Alienware R3-5491 Aurora Desktop PC (Intel Core i7 2600 3.4GHz, 8GB, 2TB, DVDRW, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit)

this is the one i might be going for its from amazon its £1,799.99

Don't go for Alienware.

If you don't want to build, there are much better bundles out there. Cyberpower and Chillblast, for example.

Shop around! Off the top of my head, Cyberpower can give you a much better system for £700 less.

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Dell Alienware R3-5491 Aurora Desktop PC (Intel Core i7 2600 3.4GHz, 8GB, 2TB, DVDRW, Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit)

this is the one i might be going for its from amazon its £1,799.99

That is way overpriced. wait a few mins, and I'll send you a link for halp the price that is better for FM.

http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/system/Cyberpower_Z68_configurator/

-choose whichever case you like

-definitely choose i7-2600K (not i7-2600, but i7-2600k) cpu

-go with ARCTIC FREEZER 13 CPU FAN

-Asus P8Z68-V Pro mainboard

-8GB Kingston Value Brand ram (8GB (2x4GB) PC10666 DDR3/1333mhz Dual Channel Memory)

-AMD Radeon HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card (or the same card with passive heating if youd like to lower the noise)

-video card 2: none

-CoolerMaster Elite 500watt Gaming Power Supply

-hard drive: 128 GB Kingston V100 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk for system and FM installation

-data drive: 2TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 32M Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive for data storage (add more data drives if you want)

This is £918.00 inc VAT, add in the operating system you with, the display you want, mouse/keyboard whatever. I don't know if you already have these, but chances are you do.

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i7 2600k

Nvidia GTX590

16gb Gskill Sniper 1600 4x4gb (32gb 8x4 if you'd like)

Vertex 3 Max IOPS 240gb SSD (OS)

Pick some HDDs.

Pick a motherboard.

Pick a case.

Samsung SyncMaster MD230X3 - 23" - widescreen TFT active matrix LCD display (three monitors)

Windows 7 Professional 64bit

Corsair 1000w power supply

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i7 2600k

Nvidia GTX590

16gb Gskill Sniper 1600 4x4gb (32gb 8x4 if you'd like)

Vertex 3 Max IOPS 240gb SSD (OS)

Pick some HDDs.

Pick a motherboard.

Pick a case.

Samsung SyncMaster MD230X3 - 23" - widescreen TFT active matrix LCD display (three monitors)

Windows 7 Professional 64bit

Corsair 1000w power supply

OMG thats gonna cost abit. 240GB SSD I wish, worst thing I ever did was selling my SSD!!

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Just for fun when I was waiting for the lottery numbers last night I had a look at the most souped-up Alienware Laptop. Upwards of £5000. I'm not greedy. I'm not lucky either; none of my numbers came up.

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OMG thats gonna cost abit. 240GB SSD JEALOUS!!

Not mine sadly, but I do have about 380gb in SSD space total on this rig :p. Here's my current.

CPU: Intel® Core i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz Overclocked to 3.8 GHz

HSF: Noctua NHD-14

MOBO: ASRock P55 Deluxe

RAM: 16gb(4x4gb) Gskill Sniper DDR3 1600

GPU: 2x MSI N460GTX Hawk GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB (SLI)

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB

SSD: 120gb Vertex 3 Max IOPS Edition, Corsair CMFSSD-128GBG1D 2.5" 128GB, Intel X25-M 160 GB,External (SSDSA2M160G2GC)

DVD: ASUS DVD Burner DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS

PSU: Corsair 750W

SOU: Asus Xonar DX

Case: Mountain Mods U2-UFO Horizon

Mon: Samsung SyncMaster T260 - 25.5" - 1900x1200 - LCD 1080P

Mouse: Logitech Performance Mouse MX

Keyboard: Logitech Illuminati

OS: Win 7 64Bit Professional

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Go via the Dmx Dimension link I showed you and you'll get the same for £1200!

http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&oc=D00ASW05&dgc=AF&cid=5212&lid=122756&acd=6ebb270d99dcfa3938cbea13f5c0cced

Select the 8GB RAM option, then add 0TKH4PZ8673N1Q coupon code at the end. Exact same spec for less money

Edit: you could even add a SSD...

my god i just looked it is the same what are amazon trying to do to me,

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Don't go for Alienware.

If you don't want to build, there are much better bundles out there. Cyberpower and Chillblast, for example.

Shop around! Off the top of my head, Cyberpower can give you a much better system for £700 less.

i have just seen your post i am gonna do a bit more looking around im kind of confused right now, i do love the look of the alienware brand though

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i have no idea where i would start i wish i was a bit more computer savy to be able to do it

If you look in magazines like Custom PC there are instructions and which parts to choose. I was **** scared when first build one but its really very easy, like lego except you have to know which parts to choose :)

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If you look in magazines like Custom PC there are instructions and which parts to choose. I was **** scared when first build one but its really very easy, like lego except you have to know which parts to choose :)

do you reckon i could build one before the 21st of october:)

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i have just seen your post i am gonna do a bit more looking around im kind of confused right now, i do love the look of the alienware brand though

Honestly, he's right. Alienware are mega expensive for the specs, you can get much better for the price unless its maxed out in which case it will still be cheaper than Alienware.

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do you reckon i could build one before the 21st of october:)

Just always keep your motherboard specifications open and see if the following matches up:

RAM: DDR number and frequency

Processor: Socket

PSU: Make sure you have at least 2 6/8 pin cables(look at the requirements on your GPU)

GPU: Check the power requirements and what kind of pins you need

HDD: SATA II/III

That's pretty much all there is to it. It's fairly simple to build your own PC; And some websites even offer an option where they build it for you with the specs you choose. Really, building your own PC is easy, just be careful and if something doesn't fit, it's not supposed to go in there.

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i have just seen your post i am gonna do a bit more looking around im kind of confused right now, i do love the look of the alienware brand though

Trust me - it's nice, but it's not £700 nice!

A magazine is a good idea. Most importantly, shop around. Money may be no object but it's possible to know when you are blatantly getting ripped-off.

Here's a list of suppliers, if you want a bundle: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/html/awards-2010/index.php?pageId=2 - Dell (Alienware included) is, unsurprisingly, near the bottom.

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As i've posted in other threads rich try pcspeacialist i got mine from there just over a year ago you can build your own mine cost about £1200 bit overkill i thought at first but i've started playing more pc games recently and can run them all in top settings

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do you reckon i could build one before the 21st of october:)

You could mate, putting it together and getting it to work can take few hours ....... its overclocking it that takes patience and time. Most shops offer next day delivery of components, I normally use ebuyer as they have excellent customer service. Also remember that choosing most expensive parts doesnt necessarily mean the best computer.

Just PLEASE stay away from Alienware ......... waste of money ;)

My current PC .....

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, I normally use ebuyer as they have excellent customer service. Also remember that choosing most expensive parts doesnt necessarily mean the best computer.

My current PC .....

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DSC_0235.jpg

My girlfriend is supervisor there :D ebuyer that is

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What about Falcon Northwest PCs? Are they worth it?

No idea - they are based in the States, and suppliers are very different there.

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oggie that looks fantastic a nice bit of kit you have inspired me to have a go and bulid my own thanks mate

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No probs mate, have a look here .......

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/buyers-guide/2011/09/01/pc-hardware-buyer-s-guide-september-2011/1

Little guide for parts, they also have very good forum where people are willing to help ....... also have a look on ocuk forum ..... they have good members which are willing to help. It takes a bit of reading up but you will get there, it will be worth it in the end. If you need any help just give us a shout, will gladly help if I can.

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If you're UK then get the latest copy of PCGamer. They built the computer no one can afford. Total price = £2783.

Not sure you need that for FM though.

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If you're UK then get the latest copy of PCGamer. They built the computer no one can afford. Total price = £2783.

Not sure you need that for FM though.

Do you have a link to that article mate?

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