Jack Rudd Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I deduct that those not mentioned are not licensed. Actually, you deduce it. "Deduct" means to subtract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 What if we didn't have a license for, say, the French league and as a result we couldn't have it in the game? I was only talking about the "cosmetic" part of the license (kits, logos, facepacks). Do you mean, that you must have a license for the leagues? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siambluebird Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Licensing is a nice part of the game but in reality the community will have this sorted out in a couple of weeks. The community is so important to FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollekewol Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I deduce that those not mentioned are not licensed. That would mean no North- & South-American teams, no Asian (India & China?) and a loss of quite some European leagues... with the Belgian league as the number one league being missed *cough cough*. I really hope that's not true! No Belgian league -> even less people here buying it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 No license for correct competition names or player pictures does not mean that the league will no longer be playable. No need to panic, I'm sure that the crazy world of Belgian football can be enjoyed in FM12. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyzer Soze Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 No license for correct competition names or player pictures does not mean that the league will no longer be playable. No need to panic, I'm sure that the crazy world of Belgian football can be enjoyed in FM12. Yeah, this is something i like to understand. Is there 2 kinds of licenses? One type for the league (so that we can play with that league), and another type of license for the logos, names, pics of that league? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mons Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Unless there is an exclusive agreement with a company other than SI (like with Japan), every league and team can be represented. To be able to display logos, names, pic etc of a particular league, SI need to have a licensing agreement with them. That is my understanding of how things work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I have never noticed it I must admit, but did the German and Japanese players in the for an example FM11 not play international games? They didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Oh, that's too bad. Is there any download out there which enables them to do so? Not allowed to talk about that on this forum, but Google has the answer you need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidbowie Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 No games have an SFL license. On a personal level it would be great to be able to get one but you can't always get what you want.I expect you'll be waiting a long time. What if we didn't have a license for, say, the French league and as a result we couldn't have it in the game? I don't think it's got anything to do with Konami. Is the J-League even in PES? I thought it was just in Winning Eleven but I've not been following it much these days. Completely ignored the A-League issue. Why does that not surprise me. Looks like another year of moronic board decisions based on having a split competition instead of the actual competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safri Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 I wouldn't mind seeing more real life media sources and journalists, it can't cost that much, if anything, particularly things like national broadcasters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.paterson Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Completely ignored the A-League issue. Why does that not surprise me. Looks like another year of moronic board decisions based on having a split competition instead of the actual competition. This just proves that SI don't care for the Australian market, however I would like to attempt and modify/create my own proper Hyundai A-League with MagicMastermind124 Editor Add-On however I don't know where to start, I have asked him if possible to create an Australian Project like he did back in FM10/FM09 (can't remember which) however he doesn't do projects anymore. If SI ever get their act together and fix this issue (5 yrs straight) with the A-League (Parent Competition) and National Youth League (Child Competition) then fans of the series could attempt creating/expanding the lower state leagues by copying the format/coding used in the A-League. I know with Victoria the VPL has the same format as the A-League (Regular Season/Finals Series with relegation for the bottom 2 teams from the league), however the lower divisions use the same format as European League football with promotion and relegation. I just wish SI would actually respond to Australian complaints, considering Miles has told me that Australia is as important as the American Leagues and more effort is applied to these markets rather than the European markets. Regards --- To vote and provide feedback on my general discussion topic to introduce Staff Roles and Duties into FM Series please click on my provided link to do so http://bit.ly/u8WoDS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuitarMan Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 As you have to activate the game via steam whether you download or by the box, these will come in a patch basically, which will be delivered by steam, is the way that I read that information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mons Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 The reason some of the pictures might not make it into the game is that the clubs/league do not send the images by the time the game goes gold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reccy Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Im just thinking outside of the box, but surely SI can create ALL leagues, teams, both domestically and international, and then just disable them and its upto the user to enable them at their "own risk" as it were? I dunno how it all works and basically just sticking my oar in.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spankie Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 No they can't. If they include the graphics and names of clubs and leagues that they don't have the license to on the disk then they are infringing on the license held by other companies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashcymru Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Not having EPL license never bothers me. As long as we don't end up going down the route of ProEvo and calling them silly names then iit's still Man Utd to me. I know what the badge looks like, I know what the players look like. Don't need a constant reminder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samdiatmh Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I agree I did used to change the English Premiers Division to English Premiership, but now I no longer care As long as the correct club names are there, I don't care what SI do with the naming of the leagues (call it English Top Division for all i care) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Hall Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 Why in gods name does the Premier league officials keep giving the Premiership License to EA for the Club badges to only be used on their game? Fifa manager is no where near popular as Football Manager and Football manager was top of the gaming league for the majority of this year with FM11, surely the Premier League would get more money if they were to either let EA and FM share the license or just give the license to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gferrand Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I was only talking about the "cosmetic" part of the license (kits, logos, facepacks). Do you mean, that you must have a license for the leagues? Can someone from SI please answer this question? We keep talking about licensing, but it would be great if someone from SI explained on this thread what types of licenses we are referring to. I think most people agree that what is important is having real club names for every league. If the name of the league is official or not, or if kits, logos, and facepacks are present, is a different issue. Is SI required to obtain licenses from specific leagues just to have the names of real clubs in the game?? I understand that they have been acquiring more licenses for kits, fixtures, and official logos for every team. Disregarding official logos, official fixtures, facepacks, or official kits, etc......does SI need a license just to use real club names? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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