Skoolblowsme Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 We really have to take advantage tomorrow. Think it will be an ugly one though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silv3rf0xx Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 who is everyone expecting to leave in the summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oypus Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 According to what Rolfe RTed, I dunno, I've never really been able to believe that. I'd imagine they at least have a say. It's almost too stupid for this club to do. Almost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 £6m is a bargain, Lukaku spending a year in Germany getting a lot of game time is a bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silv3rf0xx Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Corrected it what about willian in that role on the rw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Not for £25m. Malouda, Bosingwa and Drogba will probably go in the summer and I'd like Essien and Turnbull to join them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Why Turnbull? He's 3rd choice, will never get a game but is English born/trained. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Why Turnbull? He's 3rd choice, will never get a game but is English born/trained.He's 2nd choice, unfortunately. Ah yes, the HG thing ... couldn't we us Blackman in the CL as a 3rd choice and get a good backup keeper. I'm just thinking worst-case scenario that Cech's injured and Courtois isn't there and we have to use Turnbull who is awful or the 36 year old Hilario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I don't know who we could get that is significantly better than Hilario/Turnbull relatively cheaply that would be content sitting on the benxh? No point bringing in a younger keeper to do it either with Courtois ready to take over when the time is right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted April 28, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted April 28, 2012 I dunno, I've never really been able to believe that. I'd imagine they at least have a say. It's almost too stupid for this club to do. Almost. Why? It's commonplace in pretty much any other league than the British ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigy Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Looking forward to seeing Marin in action next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Riccardo Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Looking forward to seeing Marin in action next season. Finally a winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oypus Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Why? It's commonplace in pretty much any other league than the British ones. Honestly, I think being American makes me think that's just really, really strange. Hard to imagine the manager not having a considerable amount of control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted April 28, 2012 Author Administrators Share Posted April 28, 2012 Is it any different to the GM/HC structure though? The coach has a say in the debate but the GM's ultimately gonna decide his/her own way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oypus Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I would say in the end the coaches are usually the ones with more sway, especially on the top organizations. They are the ones who use the players, after all. There are teams that don't even use general managers, and ones who very rarely have their names mentioned. GMs that mess around too much with the team are generally on, eh, "poorer" teams. I've always imagined the general manager as the guy that deals a bit more with logistics of acquiring players and things like that, not actual decisions. But I suppose the differences between sports has a lot to do with it. I would guess it's a bit easier to force a player a coach doesn't want into a team in the NFL, as the positions are much more specific and roles vary less from team to team than they would in you people's football. The tactical side of soccer/football is much broader and more complicated as well. It could be that it happens all the time and we just have no idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makonnen Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 What sport are you thinking of Oypus? GM tenures tend to be longer than coach's--that fact alone is indicative that they have more influence on personnel than coaches. They certainly do in MLB and the NBA. The NFL is actually much closer to proper football in that way: if you don't play a 3-4, you have absolutely zero use for a 340 pound nosetackle. You don't even play with a nosetackle. Substitute winger (or, just pretend it's two 170 pound wingers ... ) and you have a pretty exact comparison. In the NFL, that is usually the choice of the defensive coordinator, perhaps of the head coach if they are the one who designs the defense. But the people busy today with the NFL draft? Pretty much all GM's. In MLB, the manager usually has control over the last couple roster spots, but that's really it. At best, the teams are constructed cooperatively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 In MLB at least the GM/owner rules. You can't really expect the guy in charge of the major league team to have day to day dealings on decisions on c200 players across 6+ teams, especially as a)he'll have to prepare for a game that day b)he would be reluctant to trade away any player for a prospect who may see the majors in 6 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oypus Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 That whole post was solely football. That's the sport I follow most here. The draft is a lot of collaboration between all the team's executive staff, and teams usually overanalyze the **** out of it. I suppose being a Patriots fan doesn't help, but it just seems like the best GMs in the league help when they need to, but sit back and let a coach do his thing. So long as the coach isn't an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 He's 2nd choice, unfortunately. Ah yes, the HG thing ... couldn't we us Blackman in the CL as a 3rd choice and get a good backup keeper. I'm just thinking worst-case scenario that Cech's injured and Courtois isn't there and we have to use Turnbull who is awful or the 36 year old Hilario. Turnbull is pretty good tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Riccardo Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 So tired but so pumped for this game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Turnbull is pretty good tbfNo he's not, he's an incredibly woeful keeper. Bar his ability to save a penalty, he is actually useless - a horrific keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I wonder what the team will be considering we only have Terry fit at CB. I do wonder whether Romeu will be asked to drop back in there as he played there a few times in his Barca days. Other than that the only thing I can think of is either Bosingwa, Essien or Mikel, unless a youth player is going to make a surprise appearance but that seems very unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
football_master_94 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 If Bosingwa doesn't play at CB, I can see Mikel playing there on the strength that he's the tallest DM we have and the best header of the ball out of the possible players we could play there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Cant see Mikel at CB. Will be either Romeu or Bosingwa I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mag man Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 We really should play one of the young CBs. Its rare that 3CBs are out and a good opportunity for one of them to play. I really don't think we will though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Cech; Ferreira, Bosingwa, Terry, Cole; Essien, Lampard; Kalou, Sturridge, Mata; Torres. Turnbull, Hutch, Drog, Romeu, Ramires, Meireles, Malouda. No JOM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcoleman1 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Not going to be the strongest defence but hopefully we can cope. Team looks to have a lot going forward so let's hope that we can give a good performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Would be perfect it we win and Tottenham continue their poor run and lose. Not bad team at all but don't think Paulo is good enough to play now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Torres and Sturridge together, not going to end well is it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Gtf in Feeling Torres will bag today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanNUFC Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Torres and Sturridge together, not going to end well is it O rly eh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Fans booing Anton Ferdinand, as well as the Hillsborough moment of silence, we do attract some ***** don't we... Still, Danny \o/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Haha now Torres has to score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Get in!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 stunning goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Mow Sturridge needs to match Torres get his 2nd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 This is beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 i hope we annihilate them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Yup good GD always helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 ****ing enjoying this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Motherf***** ***** barton. That was a red! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Ohhh Torres almost hattrick!Sturridge and kalou need to improve passing and decision making Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Hope Robbie gives Hutch some time on the field if we're still crushing them in the second half. Would be interesting to gauge what sort of shape he's in following his injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 What are the chances of a few players being rested midweek ahead of the Cup Final? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Hmm. Newcastle will be an important fixture and need to win it as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robokid87 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Would rather beat Newcastle than win the cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 very well taken well done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegr8anand Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Wohoiii Torres scored a hattrick! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1389 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Do we dare to think he's getting some form back? Really pleased for him, Roman looked really happy too. Needs to keep it up obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpain16 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I know it's been said in 70% of his games for Chelsea "he's been better" or "showing signs of the old Torres" and crap like that. But this today indeed seems like Torres that didn't slip on every occasion or had decision making of a dead monkey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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