Gregos Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Towards the latter end of FM2010, I decided to create a Big European Experiment, which eventually faded into the depths of obscurity as the excitement of FM11 and the prospect of better league reputation rules approached. As such, I have decided to recreate this experiment for FM11 and see what kind of results we achieve. Firstly, Thanks to Lucasinho for his Europe expansion pack. The Experiment To track the fates of each European country with regard to their clubs' league and continental performances, and to see if any country that is currently lowly will ever scale the dizzy heights of Champions League glory. The Setup Last time, my computer was just about able to handle the huge number of players in the database, and as such I am using the same setup as before. Every single European country (except Liechtenstein, for obvious reasons) is playable. This allows for fairness as each side will not have any greyed out players and instead will rely on their managers' skills to bring in players. Also, teams will qualify for Europe through visible results, rather than invisible choices. This will hopefully result in each nations' clubs having as good a chance as any to reach the top of the European pecking order. What will be recorded? There will be various aspects to the feedback given on this forum: The overall season report will contain the results of each club in Europe that season. Their coefficients will be monitored at all times, and each country will be shown to have various numbers of places in the varying Qualifying rounds, something which is now visible in-game. Any changes will be clearly marked. There will be comments on the biggest transfer stories from each nation (if there are any) and any teams that have been taken over by Tycoons. I remember last time out, Tromso of Norway/Denmark (I forget which) were taken over by a Tycoon and instantly became the biggest club in the country. However, the experiment did not last for long enough to see the real long term effects from this. Hopefully this time around such developments will have clear impacts on European football. I will also give my own personal summary on the seasons' events for each country. I am sure these will be made clearer to you once the first update has happened. As you may guess, these updates will not be light work and as such I ask for your patience when I am doing so. I hope to keep it as informative as possible and this cannot be rushed. I hope you enjoy the experiment. EDIT: The old thread is here, for those who are interested: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/224132-The-Big-Europe-Experiment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattSpurs94 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Looks to be very interesting. I'll be following Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscotti Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Agreed, this could provide some extremely interesting and potentially useful resuls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregos Posted January 29, 2011 Author Share Posted January 29, 2011 Small teaser: July 2010 Update Countries by European Ranking 1. (-) England 81.856 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 1. (-) Premier League 4.5 6. (-) FA Cup 3.5 18. (-) npower Championship 3 Major Clubs: Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham Clubs in Europe: 2. (-) Man Utd 131.729 3. (-) Chelsea 124.729 4. (-) Arsenal 121.729 5. (-) Liverpool 121.729 27. (-) Tottenham 62.730 42. (-) Everton 50.730 43. (-) Fulham 47.680 45. (-) Bolton 46.679 48. (-) Middlesbrough 45.679 58. (-) Newcastle 41.680 62. (-) Man City 39.730 65. (-) Blackburn 37.680 75. (-) Aston Villa 32.230 87. (-) Portsmouth 28.730 93. (-) Southampton 27.011 94. (-) Millwall 27.011 95. (-) Leeds 27.011 96. (-) Ipswich 27.011 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 3: Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal BP Q3 – 1: Tottenham EL: Q4 – 2: Man City, Aston Villa Q3 – 1: Liverpool Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Chelsea 2. Man Utd 3. Man City 4. Arsenal EL: 5. Liverpool 6. Tottenham 7. Aston Villa Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: Four clubs carry the fate of the English in their hands: Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool. Only Barcelona are better than them overall in Europe, and as such each team must continue to do well to ensure England remains the highest ranked country in Europe. Even the Championship has a better reputation than the majority of other European leagues. Liverpool's failure to qualify for the Champions League may set them back a couple of years, but this allows 5th placed (by a long way) Tottenham to prove themselves in Europe. City have money - will they use it effectively? Aston Villa have a chance to make their mark, will they do so? Everton didn't qualify this season, meaning they really ought to next season to keep up their good record in Europe. Interestingly, a lot of the top English European clubs have fallen away in recent years - Middlesbrough, Southampton, Millwall, Leeds, Ipswich, Portsmouth: they all no longer belong to the top English league. Will this have an effect on England's standing in Europe? Only time will tell... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letissierandhenryaregreat Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 It is a fantastic idea that will probably produce more interesting results now dynamic league reputation has been added! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biscotti Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 I like the format for the updates, makes it real easy to see where significant changes have happened. Will it be one post like that for each country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregos Posted January 30, 2011 Author Share Posted January 30, 2011 Biscotti - Yes, that's why the updates will be taking a long time. I will begin work on the first proper update tonight. Thanks for the positive comments! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregos Posted February 3, 2011 Author Share Posted February 3, 2011 Here is the current top 15. 16-30 to follow as soon as possible, without comments to aid speed. July 2010 Update Countries by European Ranking 1. (-) England 81.856 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 1. (-) Premier League 4.5 6. (-) FA Cup 3.5 18. (-) npower Championship 3 Major Clubs: Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham Clubs in Europe: 2. (-) Man Utd 131.729 3. (-) Chelsea 124.729 4. (-) Arsenal 121.729 5. (-) Liverpool 121.729 27. (-) Tottenham 62.730 42. (-) Everton 50.730 43. (-) Fulham 47.680 45. (-) Bolton 46.679 48. (-) Middlesbrough 45.679 58. (-) Newcastle 41.680 62. (-) Man City 39.730 65. (-) Blackburn 37.680 75. (-) Aston Villa 32.230 87. (-) Portsmouth 28.730 93. (-) Southampton 27.011 94. (-) Millwall 27.011 95. (-) Leeds 27.011 96. (-) Ipswich 27.011 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 3: Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal BP Q3 – 1: Tottenham EL: Q4 – 2: Man City, Aston Villa Q3 – 1: Liverpool Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Chelsea 2. Man Utd 3. Man City 4. Arsenal EL: 5. Liverpool 6. Tottenham 7. Aston Villa Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: Four clubs carry the fate of the English in their hands: Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool. Only Barcelona are better than them overall in Europe, and as such each team must continue to do well to ensure England remains the highest ranked country in Europe. Even the Championship has a better reputation than the majority of other European leagues. Liverpool's failure to qualify for the Champions League may set them back a couple of years, but this allows 5th placed (by a long way) Tottenham to prove themselves in Europe. City have money - will they use it effectively? Aston Villa have a chance to make their mark, will they do so? Everton didn't qualify this season, meaning they really ought to next season to keep up their good record in Europe. Interestingly, a lot of the top English European clubs have fallen away in recent years - Middlesbrough, Southampton, Millwall, Leeds, Ipswich, Portsmouth: they all no longer belong to the top English league. Will this have an effect on England's standing in Europe? Only time will tell... 2. (-) Spain 79.757 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 2. (-) LIGA BBVA 4.5 21. (-) Spanish Cup 3 26. (-) LIGA adelante 2.5 Major Clubs: Barcelona, R. Madrid, At. Madrid, Sevilla, Valencia, Deportivo Clubs in Europe: 1. (-) Barcelona 143.256 6. (-) Sevilla 115.257 12. (-) R. Madrid 91.527 16. (-) Vilarreal 77.256 19. (-) Valencia 73.257 28. (-) Espanyol 61.986 37. (-) At. Madrid 56.986 47. (-) Osasuna 45.987 49. (-) Athletic 45.256 57. (-) Getafe 41.986 71. (-) Celta 34.987 72. (-) Betis 34.986 78. (-) Racing 30.256 84. (-) Deportivo 29.256 101. (-) Malaga 26.318 102. (-) Alaves 26.318 103. (-) Mallorca 26.317 104. (-) R. Sociedad 26.317 105. (-) Zaragoza 25.986 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 3: Barcelona, R. Madrid, Valencia BP Q3 – 1: Sevilla EL: GS: At. Madrid (Europa League Holders) Q4 – 2: Getafe, Villarreal Q3 – 1: N/A Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Barcelona 2. R. Madrid 3. Valencia 4. Sevilla EL: 5. At. Madrid 6. Mallorca 7. Villarreal Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: The Spanish league is quite an open one, but two clubs lead the way, and the battle between Real Madrid and Barcelona will be one which is closely monitored. Barcelona hold the advantage in Europe – they are Europe’s current top club – and Real lag behind slightly, not even inside the top 10 at present. Will 6th placed Sevilla be the team to upset the top two and continue their good European form? Or will other well placed clubs such as Valencia or Europa League holders Athletico Madrid upset the balance in Spain? An interesting note – Mallorca are well fancied to do well in the league this season, so will they conform to the media predictions? And will Spain be able to climb ahead of England to claim bragging rights? 3. (-) Italy 64.338 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 3. (-) Serie A 4 25. (-) Serie B 2.5 27. (-) Italian Cup 2.5 Major Clubs: Inter, AC Milan, Juventus, Roma, Fiorentina, Sampdoria Clubs in Europe: 8. (-) Inter 105.744 9. (-) AC Milan 105.744 14. (-) Roma 88.744 23. (-) Fiorentina 68.744 26. (-) Juventus 64.744 52. (-) Udinese 43.744 56. (-) Palermo 42.222 69. (-) Sampdoria 35.744 79. (-) Lazio 30.223 85. (-) Parma 29.222 92. (-) Livorno 27.222 111. (-) Genoa 24.223 115. (-) Perugia 21.229 116. (-) Empoli 21.223 117. (-) Chievo 21.222 125. (-) Napoli 19.745 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 3: Inter, Roma, AC Milan BP Q3 – 1: Sampdoria EL: Q4 – 2: Palermo, Napoli Q3 – 1: Juventus Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Inter 2. AC Milan 3. Roma 4. Juventus EL: 5. Sampdoria 6. Palermo 7. Napoli Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: The Italian league is still recovering from the match-fixing scandal that left Juventus and Italian football in tatters, in comparison to their previous years. As such, the Italians are in danger of losing their fourth Champions League spot and must perform well in the next few seasons to retain their dwindling hopes of third placed nation in Europe. Much rests on the two Milan teams, although there are several mid-strength teams who have had success in previous years and some who are on the up: Lazio and Genoa respectively. Of course, Juventus and Roma hold high hopes for the coming years, and again their success will in part dictate to what extent the Italians are successful in the future. 4. (-) Germany 64.207 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 4. (-) German First Division 4 12. (-) German Cup 3 19. (-) German Second Division 3 Major Clubs: FC Bayern, Werder Bremen, Schalke, HSV, Leverkusen, Stuttgart Clubs in Europe: 7. (-) FC Bayern 115.186 11. (-) Werder Bremen 99.186 13. (-) HSV 91.186 30. (-) Schalke 59.186 35. (-) Stuttgart 57.185 44. (-) Leverkusen 46.835 54. (-) Wolfsburg 43.187 61. (-) Hertha BSC 40.187 98. (-) Nurnberg 26.835 107. (-) Frankfurt 24.836 118. (-) Union Berlin 21.187 119. (-) Freiburg 21.187 120. (-) Aachen 21.187 121. (-) Bochum 21.186 124. (-) Mainz 19.834 126. (-) Dortmund 19.186 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 2: FC Bayern, Schalke BP Q3 – 1: Werder Bremen EL: Q4 – 2: Dortmund, Leverkusen Q3 – 1: Stuttgart Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. FC Bayern 2. Werder Bremen 3. Schalke EL: 4. Leverkusen 5. HSV 6. Stuttgart Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: Bayern, Bremen and Hamburger are the three clubs that have made the most impact on Europe in recent seasons – will this continue? Will Wolfsburg, who have the services of Edin Dzeko for the meantime, be able to crack into the European places in the coming seasons? Will the Germans overtake the Italians and claim what could be a crucial Champions League place? And will Dortmund, who are bottom of the German pile in Europe currently, do well in the first season of FM11? 5. (-) France 53.740 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 5. (-) Ligue 1 4 15. (-) French Cup 3 24. (-) Ligue 2 2.5 Major Clubs: Olympique Lyonnais, OM, Girondins Bordeaux, Paris Saint-Germain, AS Monaco FC, AS Saint-Etienne Clubs in Europe: 10. (-) Olympique Lyonnais 100.352 20. (-) Girondins Bordeaux 71.353 24. (-) OM 66.352 40. (-) LOSC Lille Metropole 51.784 53. (-) Paris Saint-Germain 43.353 64. (-) RC Lens 37.783 80. (-) RC Strasbourg 29.783 82. (-) AS Saint-Etienne 29.353 83. (-) AS Nancy Lorraine 29.352 99. (-) AS Monaco FC 26.782 108. (-) AJ Auxerre 24.783 109. (-) Toulouse FC 24.782 112. (-) Stade Rennais FC 23.350 132. (-) FC Sochaux-Montbe 17.782 133. (-) ESTAC Troyes 17.734 134. (-) CS Cedan Ardennes 17.734 135. (-) FC Nantes 17.734 136. (-) FC Lorient 17.734 137. (-) Montpellier Herault SC 17.733 138. (-) En Avant de Guingamp 13.716 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 2: OM, Olympique Lyonnais BP Q3 – 1: AJ Auxerre EL: Q4 – 2: LOSC Lille Metropole, Paris Saint-Germain Q3 – 1: Montpellier Herault SC Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Olympique Lyonnais 2. OM 3. Girondins Bordeaux EL: 4. LOSC Lille Metropole 5. AS Monaco FC 6. AJ Auxerre Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: I’m not a fan of the French league, partly because all the club names are so long, but also partly because I believe they are a one-club division. Lyon seem to be the only side that really makes an impact in Europe, and they are well behind the Germans in terms of coefficients. The other clubs will have to work hard and perform well for them to even think about gaining a fourth CL spot, and may possibly be looking over their shoulders to the nations below them in the near future. Will they move from 5th in Europe, or will they maintain their steady position? Something major needs to happen, perhaps a tycoon takeover or a small team winning a big competition, for any really interesting to happen in France. 6. (-) Russia 43.791 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 9. (-) Russian Premier Division 3.5 46. (-) Russian Cup 2.5 56. (-) Russian Super Cup 2.5 Major Clubs: CSKA Moscow, Zenit, Rubin, Spartak Moscow, Lokomotiv Moscow, Dinamo Moscow Clubs in Europe: 21. (-) CSKA Moscow 70.380 25. (-) Zenit 64.879 66. (-) Spartak Moscow 37.379 76. (-) Lokomotiv Moscow 30.647 100. (-) Rubin 26.648 141. (-) Krylja Sovetov 16.648 152. (-) Dinamo Moscow 15.148 153. (-) Amkar 15.148 159. (-) Terek 14.449 160. (-) Torpedo Moscow 14.449 161. (-) Sibir 14.449 171. (-) Moscow 13.381 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 2: Rubin, Spartak Moscow BP Q2 – 1: Zenit EL: Q4 – 2: Lokomotiv Moscow, CSKA Moscow Q3 – 1: Sibir Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Rubin 2. Zenit 3. Spartak Moscow EL: 4. CSKA Moscow 5. Lokomotiv Moscow 6. Dinamo Moscow Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: The Russians are, in my opinion, a developing football nation, but this 6th place is elevated and I do not expect them to remain here for much longer, particularly with Portugal lying in wait behind them. No Russian team stands out in Europe, and the reputation of the leagues isn’t high enough to keep any good players at the clubs, meaning they will have to improve drastically to maintain this sterling effort in Europe. CSKA Moscow and Zenit will lead the charge, but both these clubs are unsteady domestically and may not claim a monopoly in coming seasons. It is a perilous time for Russian football, and someone needs to really stand out. 7. (-) Ukraine 39.550 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 13. (-) Ukrainian Premier League 3 52. (-) Ukrainian Cup 2.5 61. (-) Ukrainian Super Cup 2 Major Clubs: Shakhtar, Dynamo Kyiv, Metalist, Dnipro, Karpaty, Metalurg D Clubs in Europe: 17. (-) Shakhtar 76.134 50. (-) Dinamo Kyiv 45.133 90. (-) Metalist 27.634 139. (-) Dnipro 17.133 146. (-) Metalurg D 15.795 169. (-) Vorskla 13.795 174. (-) Metalurg Zp 13.294 177. (-) Karpaty 13.049 178. (-) Arsenal Kyiv 13.049 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 1: Shakhtar BP Q2 – 1: Dynamo Kyiv EL: Q4 – 2: Tavria, Metalist Q3 – 1: Dnipro Q2 – 1: Karpaty Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Shakhtar 2. Dynamo Kyiv EL: 3. Metalist 4. Dnipro 5. Karpaty 6. Tavria Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: In 7th place, the Ukraine. Bizarrely. Shakhtar are the reason why – they dominate in the league and do well in Europe, and so much depends on their success in Europe over the coming seasons as to whether they will retain this high position. They may look to teams such as Dynamo Kyiv and Metalist to make up some of the numbers in Europe. Will there be a tycoon takeover to really pump up the efforts? 8. (-) Romania 39.491 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 22. (-) Romanian First League 3 75. (-) Romanian Cup 2 112. (-) Romanian Super Cup 2 Major Clubs: Steaua, Dinamo Buc., CFR Cluj, FC Timisoara, Rapid Buc., FC Vaslui Clubs in Europe: 38. (-) Steaua 51.895 60. (-) Rapid Buc. 40.896 74. (-) Dinamo Buc. 32.896 113. (-) Unirea Urziceni 22.894 123. (-) CFR Cluj 19.984 145. (-) FC Timisoara 15.894 148. (-) FC Vaslui 15.394 179. (-) Otelul 13.028 180. (-) Progresul 13.028 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 1: CFR Cluj BP Q2 – 1: Unirea Urziceni EL: Q4 – 2: FC Vaslui, Steaua Q3 – 1: FC Timisoara Q2 – 1: Dinamo Buc. Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. CFR Cluj 2. Steaua EL: 3. Dinamo Buc. 4. FC Timisoara 5. FC Vaslui 6. Unirea Urziceni Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: Another nation rather high up for my liking is Romania. The league is very open, with teams such as the Bucharests, Cluj and Unirea all battling it out for the title. CFR Cluj are the favourites but not the biggest club, and so there is potential for a lot of moving and shaking within the league. Steaua need to keep up their decent European record to keep Romania in 8th place, as they seem to be carrying the banner at the moment. 9. (-) Portugal 38.296 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 7. (-) Liga ZON Sagres 3.5 39. (-) Taca de Portugal 2.5 68. (-) Supertaca 2 Major Clubs: Porto, Benfica, Sporting, Braga, Maritimo, Belenenses Clubs in Europe: 15. (-) Porto 79.453 18. (-) Benfica 75.454 29. (-) Sporting 60.454 55. (-) Braga 42.455 143. (-) Vit. Guimaraes 16.455 149. (-) Nacional da Madeira 15.337 170. (-) Vit. Setubal 13.455 172. (-) Leiria 13.337 173. (-) P. Ferreira 13.336 182. (-) Leixoes 12.637 183. (-) Boavista 12.637 184. (-) Belenenses 12.636 195. (-) Maritimo 11.754 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 1: Benfica BP Q2 – 1: Braga EL: Q4 – 1: Porto Q3 – 1: Sporting Q2 – 1: Maritimo Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Porto 2. Benfica EL: 3. Sporting 4. Braga 5. Maritimo 6. Vitoria Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: Portugal suffer from lack of depth. They have three (arguably four) very successful teams in Porto, Benfica and Sporting (and Braga), but only two CL places and as such one of these teams will always miss out – unless they can climb to 6th. Their league reputation is high compared to the nations directly ahead of them, and so there is pulling power there. I think much rests on how well the minor teams can perform not only in the league but in Europe as well. A note: Portugal were clearly below Holland at the end of last season, which is why Portugal only have only 5 qualification places, whereas Holland have 6. This will change next season of course. 10. (-) Holland 36.546 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 11. (-) Eredivisie 3.5 38. (-) Dutch Cup 2.5 67. (-) Eerste Divisie 2 Major Clubs: Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord, FC Twente, AZ, sc Heerenveen Clubs in Europe: 22. (-) PSV 69.010 33. (-) Ajax 58.011 39. (-) AZ 51.834 70. (-) sc Heerenveen 35.011 88. (-) FC Twente 28.011 127. (-) Feyenoord 19.011 140. (-) NEC 17.011 158. (-) FC Groningen 14.834 187. (-) NAC Breda 12.334 189. (-) Vitesse 12.058 190. (-) Roda JC 12.058 191. (-) FC Utrecht 12.058 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 1: FC Twente BP Q2 – 1: Ajax EL: Q4 – 2: PSV, Feyenoord Q3 – 1: AZ Q2 – 1: Utrecht Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Ajax 2. PSV EL: 3. FC Twente 4. Feyenoord 5. AZ Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: The Dutch are underachieving in my opinion. They should go back up into their deserved 4th EL place next season, but who knows. Three clubs lead the way, and much will depend on Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord, the latter of which have a poor recent record in Europe. How will the smaller teams do, and will there be a tycoon takeover at any point to shake up things? 11. (-) Turkey 34.450 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 8. (-) Turkish Premier Division 3.5 33. (-) Turkish Cup 2.5 47. (-) Turkish Super Cup 2.5 Major Clubs: Galatasaray, Fenerbahce, Besiktas, Bursaspor, Trabzonspor, Kayserispor Clubs in Europe: 34. (-) Fenerbahce 57.469 46. (-) Galatasaray 46.467 67. (-) Besiktas 36.469 166. (-) Trabzonspor 13.878 193. (-) Sivasspor 11.879 197. (-) Kayserispor 11.468 198. (-) Kayseri Erciyesspor 11.368 199. (-) Denizilispor 11.368 200. (-) Genclerbirligi 11.367 201. (-) Gaziantepsor 11.367 202. (-) Malatyaspor 11.367 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 1: Bursaspor BP Q2 – 1: Fenerbahce EL: Q4 – 1: Galatasaray Q3 – 1: Besiktas Q2 – 1: Trabzonspor Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Fenerbahce 2. Galatasaray EL: 3. Besiktas 4. Bursaspor 5. Trabzonspor Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: The three big teams in Turkey will carry the banner for the nation, however Bursaspor will do well this season to get further than the Group Stage of the CL after winning the Premier Division the season before the game kicked off. Can any of the other teams make an impact? 12. (-) Greece 29.899 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 10. (-) Greek Superleague 3.5 32. (-) Greek Cup 2.5 85. (-) Greek National B Division 2 Major Clubs: Olympiakos, Panathinaikos, AEK, PAOK, Aris, Panionios Clubs in Europe: 31. (-) Panathinaikos 58.992 36. (-) Olympiakos 56.992 89. (-) AEK 27.991 155. (-) Aris 14.992 163. (-) PAOK 14.336 168. (-) Panionios 13.837 203. (-) Larisa 11.335 204. (-) Iraklis 10.838 211. (-) Aigaleo 9.865 212. (-) Xanthi 9.837 Current EURO Qualification CL: Group Stage – 1: Panathinaikos BP Q2 – 1: PAOK EL: Q4 – 1: AEK Q3 – 1: Aris Q2 – 1: Olympiakos Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Panathinaikos 2. Olympiakos EL: 3. AEK 4. PAOK 5. Aris Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: We have a clear top 2 and a clear top 5 in Greece. Olympiakos and Panathinaikos have been rivals for ages and will continue this rivalry into this experiment. Panathinaikos are on top in Europe and have the chance to maintain that this season, but Olympiakos are still seen as the bigger team, so which will emerge victorious? And the three wannabes, AEK, PAOK and Aris have chances to spoil the party... Note: Greece is the final nation to have an automatic Group Stage place for the Champions of the league. Every country below 12th will need to win qualifying games to progress to the main competition. 13. (-) Switzerland 28.375 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 17. (-) Swiss Super League 3 43. (-) Swiss Cup 2.5 58. (-) Swiss Challenge League 2 Major Clubs: Basel, Young Boys, Zurich, Grasshoppers, Luzern, Sion Clubs in Europe: 41. (-) Basel 51.236 110. (-) Zurich 24.235 142. (-) Thun 16.613 150. (-) Grasshoppers 15.235 176. (-) Sion 13.114 208. (-) Young Boys 10.238 215. (-) Luzern 9.362 216. (-) St. Gallen 9.362 217. (-) Lausanne 9.362 218. (-) Servette FC 9.362 224. (-) Bellinzona 8.984 269. (-) Vaduz 5.811 Current EURO Qualification CL: CH Q2 – 1: Basel BP Q2 – 1: Young Boys EL: Q4 – 1: Grasshoppers Q3 – 1: Luzern Q2 – 1: Lausanne-Sport Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Basel 2. Young Boys EL: 3. Grasshoppers 4. Luzern 5. Sion Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: Basel and Young Boys will lead the way, but Young Boys have little European success and if they do well they could help the Swiss climb a little further up the European rankings. 14. (-) Belgium 27.900 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 14. (-) Belgian Pro League 3 36. (-) Belgian Cup 2.5 118. (-) Belgian Second League 1.5 Major Clubs: Anderlecht, Standard, Club Brugge, Genk, AA Gent, Germinal Beerschot Clubs in Europe: 51. (-) Anderlecht 44.487 63. (-) Club Brugge 38.488 73. (-) Standard 34.487 164. (-) Zulte Waregem 14.076 210. (-) Germinal Beerschot 10.075 221. (-) Cercle Brugge 9.206 232. (-) AA Gent Current EURO Qualification CL: CH Q2 – 1: Anderlecht BP Q2 – 1: AA Gent EL: Q4 – 1: Club Brugge Q3 – 1: Cercle Brugge Q2 – 1: Genk Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. Anderlecht 2. Club Brugge EL: 3. Gent 4. Standard 5. STVV Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: Belgium’s competition reputations are rather low, and this could affect their standings in Europe in the future. They have several average sides that all really need a good spree in Europe to really make Belgium a force to be reckoned with. 15. (-) Denmark 27.350 Top 3 Competitions: (rated by stars) 23. (-) Superliga 2.5 49. (-) Danish Cup 2.5 93. (-) Danish First Division 2 Major Clubs: FC Kobenhavn, Brondby, OB, FC Midtjylland, AaB, AGF Clubs in Europe: 68. (-) FC Kobenhavn 36.384 97. (-) AaB 26.883 129. (-) OB 17.950 156. (-) Brondby 14.885 213. (-) Randers FC 9.452 223. (-) Esbjerg fB 9.023 235. (-) FC Nordsjaelland 7.958 236. (-) FC MIdtjylland 7.956 Current EURO Qualification CL: CH Q1 – 1: FC Copenhagen EL: Q3 – 2: OB, Brondby Q2 – 1: FC Nordsjaelland Q1 – 1: Randers FC (via Fair Play) Media Prediction of EURO Qualifiers Next Season: CL: 1. FC Kobenhavn 2. Brondby EL: 3. OB 4. AaB 5. FC Midtjylland Transfer Stories: N/A AOB: N/A Comments: A note: Denmark were outside the top 15 last season which explains why they only had one CL spot for the Champions and runaway best team FC Kobenhavn. It will be interesting to see how Randers FC fare from the Fair Play qualification. 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