FuSS Posted November 19, 2010 Author Share Posted November 19, 2010 for your version two you used opp instructons and what is your match prepartion thanks for your tactics mate Post match varies depending on the opponent and what I think my team needs to work on - as do the opp instructions, although a good assman will help you with these (don't just rely on him though) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 19, 2010 Author Share Posted November 19, 2010 UPDATE - 19/11/10 I'm having great success altering the RB to be more defensive (defensive/FB) and the LB to be more attacking and hug the touch-line (attacking/WB). This is quite particualr to Tottenham as it suits Bale very well...however I will relase a toned down version for everyone to use as a mini update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky28 Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 Open FM with the screen you want to copy.Press the "Print Screen" button on your keyboard (depending on your keyboard, it should be near the Ins and Delete buttons). Open Paint (or similar program). Try looking under Accessories in your Start menu. Press Ctrl+V to paste the pic. Now you can crop it, resize etc and save it. Hope that helps Thank you mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageNick Posted November 19, 2010 Share Posted November 19, 2010 This is an overwhelmingly home-based tactic. At home with my chelsea team (trying to get a feel for the ME until I switch to my beloved spurs) I absolutely batter every1. Away from home I can't even beat wolves. The team performance is basically embarrassing the moment they leave stamford bridge. The two types of goals I concede are a crappy player either running straight through the middle of my defence or a crappy winger crossing from 45 yards perfectly onto the head of a similarly crap-at-heading striker lol. Against Man Utd I can understand this sort of thing but wolves??? I'm pretty sure you already mentioned the through-the-centre goals and absolutely everywhere on the forums it talks about the so-perfect-its-almost-cheating crossing thing. I've also noticed that away from home the opposing full-backs play like gods against your wingers (not just your tactic has this problem, I've tried a number of my own and a few from this forum - all have the same full-back behaviour). Any ideas guys? P.S. Already tried the attacking wing-back on left (Cole) and defensive on right (ivanovic/bosingwa). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aduh Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 defence is very weak with this tactic Im lossing almost every away game with my MU Now Im affraid to play against Stick, Wolves etc ... What is wrong with this game ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 with very big temas i still prefer the original personally, im yet to find my happy balence - yes away from home is difficult, i think we need to develope a second tactic for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLM82 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 If I change the role of the attacking players, for example the poacher or the trequartista, would this be a problem? ie is the tactic designed around these specific players, or other role of fowards will be fed the ball just as well as the poacher or the trequartista? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemell Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Where did you put the link to the mini updated version of yesterday? Great tactic by the way! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arp Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 The link doesnt work, can anyone upload the tactic again, please.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootTheRunner Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Just finished my first season with Liverpool using this tactic (original one). Won everything going; prem, euro cup, fa cup & league cup. I've actually had the best away record in the premier division although I can see a big difference playing away from home (one example... lost 1-0 at man city, 6 days later we hammer them 3-0 at Anfield and had 10 more shots on goal than the previous match), not sure if this is just the game though? Also went unbeaten at home in all competitions. I didn't really find the defence to be that weak although I did change the two full backs to have the 'defend' duty (conceded 34 in 38). Agger got into the team of the year anyway. Thanks for the tactic mate, will carry on using it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I used this tactic with my Canterbury Dragons team in the New Zealand league. Despite the players having not many stats over 10 they are still a better team than most of the others in the league, it still produced some brilliant football. The attacking play of the strikers and wingers was great to watch even at this level. I am currently playing with Bayern Munich hoping that Robben and Ribery can be good in the winger positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukazTMR Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Test this in Internazionale..i feedback son. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barongimpy Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Should the Trequartista always remain playmaker in Team Settings for this tactic to be effective? Because it just seems wrong, if for instance you're using Spurs, that Pav/Crouch would be the designated playmaker in the side. I noticed when I tried this tactic with Arsenal that Cesc was incredibly ineffective as the CMR until I switched him over as the primary playmaker - suddenly his own performances improved. Now I haven't played long enough yet to see whether this affects the tactic as a whole but i'd be interested to hear whether anyone else has tried this? ....also, if I have Dzeko in the poacher position, would it be better to change his role to 'complete forward'? Or just leave it as it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Should the Trequartista always remain playmaker in Team Settings for this tactic to be effective? Because it just seems wrong, if for instance you're using Spurs, that Pav/Crouch would be the designated playmaker in the side.I noticed when I tried this tactic with Arsenal that Cesc was incredibly ineffective as the CMR until I switched him over as the primary playmaker - suddenly his own performances improved. Now I haven't played long enough yet to see whether this affects the tactic as a whole but i'd be interested to hear whether anyone else has tried this? ....also, if I have Dzeko in the poacher position, would it be better to change his role to 'complete forward'? Or just leave it as it is? Primary play maker isnt ticked and isn't used.... How on earth anyone can put up with Dzeko terribly demanding nature is beyound me! but i couldnt say, i havnt had need to try it....but yes prob change the poacher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arp Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeey Minimal.................I cant download the tactic, whats wrong ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootTheRunner Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 ....also, if I have Dzeko in the poacher position, would it be better to change his role to 'complete forward'? Or just leave it as it is? I'm playing Dzeko in the trequartista position. He finished last season with an average rating of 7.42 and got into the Premier Division team of the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 My first match using this tactic. A friendly away at FBK Kaunas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukazTMR Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The attack is great but the defence very agressive and ineffective Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesswfc Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Cheers Daniel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinksy Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 My 4 friendly results using this tactic were: FBK Kaunas 0-5 Hearts Montrose 0-5 Hearts Southampton 0-2 Hearts Glentoran 0-5 Hearts Looking very very dangerous all the time but the proof is going to be when the competitive games start. Very confident though. Good work MiNiMaL_Fuss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil ole me Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 1st season - won the premier league, league cup and champions league with spurs and no signings.\ 2nd season - finished 2nd premier league, won league cup and FA cup but lost on away goals to Real Madrid in the QF Champions League (i blame Benoit Ekotto`s red card) I had a 5-0 home win v Chelsea, 5-0 away win v Man U and a 5-0 FA Cup final win vs Aston Villa. All in all, a fantastic formation. Here is a screenie from my last season. http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/457/tottenhamhotspurtottenh.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton1987 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 This worked for a while but the defence is wide open, routinely conceding 3 at home to the likes of Wolves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mak1 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Well after getting Ipswich promoted as Champions with this the Premier Season started very badly, obviously a weaker side and we were getting badly exposed at the back. Have gone back to my original flat 4-4-2, sitting a bit deeper but still the same pressing principles and am currently sitting 12th in February so should be safe. So it does seem (for me) that this tactic is good if you are a stronger team in a league but exposes the back line if you aren't! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMasch Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 This is imo the best tactic on this forum.... However second season in and away games have become impossible i don't actually think the tactic has come undone but the ai keepers have suddenly turned into supermen! my strikers are missing easy easy chances and im now getting hit with 40 yard wonder strikes from everywhere i go -frustration rant over- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakey Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Just starting my first season with this tactic as liverpool. Got Torres as the poacher and looking to play Babbel/Kuyt as 2nd striker, Neymar on left and Joe Cole/Maxi on right, Poulson and Gerrard in midfield. Who is the ideal player in the trequvista position? Is it seen as a Bergkamp role? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullseye Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 UPDATE 18/11/10TO DO • Defensive corners are conceeding too many goals - open to edits here. 1 player mark tall player 1 player mark small player 2 players man mark 3 players go back 1 on edge of area 1 close down and last one stay forward for change of counter attack. With this set up I only conceeded 2 goals in 48 matches from corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
icelone Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I am playing as Man Utd and this tactic is working great for 1st season winning treble. One problem though, my team is getting lots of yellow cards. Also, I was hammered by Barcelona 8-1 away (at home beat them 3-1) in CL. Now in 2nd season in the game, I hope results will get better. thanks for the great tactic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DandyDon Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Primary play maker isnt ticked and isn't used....How on earth anyone can put up with Dzeko terribly demanding nature is beyound me! but i couldnt say, i havnt had need to try it....but yes prob change the poacher. Do you find him demanding in the game MF? Or referring to him irl? He's been good as gold for me so far since I signed him.......plenty time for Citeh to try and unsettle him yet though I suppose I remember the FM07 minimal fuss tactics with great fondness by the way, worked wonders for my Aberdeen and Juventus teams as I recall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Jung Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Wow, beautiful attacking football with beautiful results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLM82 Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Any updates on this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henley Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Excellent tactic MF, I started using it 17 games ago with Liverpool, started out: Leicester away 4-0won Tottenham home 4-0won Montpellier home 2-0won Fulham home 3-0won West Ham home 3-0won Villa away 2-0lost Bolton away 2-1won Blackburn home 3-0won Debrecen home 5-1won Man Utd home 2-0won Wolves home 3-0won Wolves away 2-0won Sunderland away 2-0won Newcastle away 4-0won Wigan home 3-1won Man Utd away 2-0won Everon home 3-0won Ive made a few tweaks to the tactic,for instance i've brought the tempo down to slow,i've changed the time wasting to often,i've made the width normal,the goalkeeper now uses defender collect but you need to specifically choose a defender or else he will just lump it. I tend to use my fullbacks as the AI never closes them down from a goal kick,best bet is to use the fullback with the best passing. With the tweaks i seem to dictate the play more and dominate possesion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 Hi all, Been crazy busy at work and on holiday, so I'm afraid there's been no update - I've not even played FM!!! Will be getting back to grips with it this wknd and going from there! Those who are winnign everything - are you using the orginal (my fave) or the newer more agressive version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew56 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 minaml fuss can you give us your pre match team talks please half time and full time please thamnks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew56 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 and btw do you use opp instrcutions brother? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 3, 2010 Author Share Posted December 3, 2010 I don't use opp instructions - but i will switch them on if i find one player is giving us the run around (usually torres) Team talks I've already mentioned, there's great guides on here somewhere. half time in short: below 6 = angry 6 - 6.9 = disapointed 7-7.5 = have faith 7.6 above = pleased 9+ = delighted The key to this game is definately moral - i use alot of individual player conversations, it's pretty easy to keep everyone happy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav1979 Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 which is the latest version of this tactic,looking forward to giving it a go with man utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 there's 2. 0.1 - i prefer for big teams 0.2 - this has a different defensive setup for those conceeding alot with 0.1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirfugy88 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 This is for me BY FAR the best tactic out here for FM11. I've tested a million of tactics already, but this is for me the only one that brings consistency. I've played 20 games so far with Tottenham, won 19, draw 1 (against a friend in network game). I've only conceeded 5 goals (3 out of corners) and I've scored a lot of goals. The only thing I have changed is the attacking corner setup as I did not score any corners with the corner set up in this tactic. Great tactic, thanks for sharing it Minimal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keppel999 Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 changed to this tactic beat man city away 2-1 im aston villa i got outplayed everywhere but nicked a sneaky win hope it will start a good run of results. how do i make it so i dominate the game any tweaks also to make the defense strong anyone on here using this n tweaked it having succsess?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew56 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 nice tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich2086 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Minimal Fuss returns - long live the king Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLM82 Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 The million dollar question: Howz this working on 11.2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuSS Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 didn't even realise there was 11.2, bah back to work i guess! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLM82 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 You're slow my friend. It's already 11.2.1 now :-) When you settle on a game, a new patch comes. Oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I am finding this tactic to work just as well with the new patch as it did on the last one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikester Posted December 18, 2010 Share Posted December 18, 2010 Ok guys, I thought I would post my results so far using version v.02: Amazing results, and I'am doing alot better since patch 11.2.1 Minimal Fuss Are you still working on this tactic? As it has the potentail to be GREAT! Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovetic Posted December 20, 2010 Share Posted December 20, 2010 im wan to try this tactic !! did anyone tweaking this tactic that bring more success ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inzamam Posted December 21, 2010 Share Posted December 21, 2010 does anyone know where i can obtain the first version? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvayLo Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 What about an updated version for 11.2.1 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APAC Posted December 27, 2010 Share Posted December 27, 2010 Can anyone plz upload somewhere else cause i cant download from zshare??? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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