dan_lcfc

Criticizing Refs

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Wow thats a hard word to spell.... :p

Anywho,
Why does there not seem to be a 'middle ground' answer when asked about a penalty decision/dissallowed goal etc?
When asked, as we all very well know, you get 5 options:-
Abysmal decision; - FA Fine
A case for getting it wrong - FA Fine
Dont want to talk about it - Nothing
The ref made a good call
The ref was spot on.

What I'm asking is why does the second one down get you an FA fine?
The way interpreted that was more along the lines of;
"I personally thought he could have given a penalty, but he didnt so we have to move on"

But the game seems puts in into a context along the lines of;
"The ref was absolutly shoddy"

Managers say stuff like that all the time without gettin fines.
So every time I get this question I end up haveing to say 'No comment' because even though it looked like I could have a case, I have only ever won one and the next time I do I'll end up with a touchline ban.

Hopefully FM11 will explain the answers abit better

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I think FA only fines you if the Critcism was wrong. Otherwise they just chhose remain silent.
Makes this feature pointless IMO.

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[quote name='Ishu']I think FA only fines you if the Critcism was wrong .Otherwise they just chhose remain silent.
Makes this feature pointless IMO. [/QUOTE]

The FA would choose to remain silent only once in a blue moon. I think Dan is right, this feature needs tweking. Lets hope FM11 polished the press conference well.

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I hope this aspect of the game gets improved in FM11. :thup:

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Might be. I don't use press conference.

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i don't like it because you can hardly tell if it was the right decision or not, especially if you use classic view on match screen.

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Apparently they have looked at all the questions in press confrences for 2011 and changed some of them, so i hope they have changed it for this. There were lots of questions that didn't give the answer I wanted which was annoying. Do like press confrences though so i hope they are improved for this game!

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Unless the decision is a clear-cut mistake (take lampard's "goal" for england against germany) then criticising the ref only gets you a fine (and a touchline ban if it occurs again)

What i'd like is for the ban to not roll over (I criticised a ref once in 2018 and missied a match)... I can't remember a previous time (pre-2015) when i had done this
Absolutely ludicrous that i miss a match for my second offence in about 5 years

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Its wrong, any criticism results in a fine then ban in the game, that is clearly not the case IRL.

Saying the ref decided the game might get you a fine.
Saying the ref got it wrong wont get you a fine or even warning. If that was the case, Fergie and Wenger would be on the phone to Ocean Finance right now.

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yes im sure that its been looked it for 11. This is just one example of saying an answer in the conference and get a news item saying something completely different! eg "He still features in my teams plans" translates to "XXXX is first choice"

exaclty the same for refs, which can result in touchline bans etc, fingers corssed its fixed up

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[quote name='aussieant32']yes im sure that its been looked it for 11. This is just one example of saying an answer in the conference and get a news item saying something completely different! eg "He still features in my teams plans" translates to "XXXX is first choice"

exaclty the same for refs, which can result in touchline bans etc, fingers corssed its fixed up[/QUOTE]
So its realistic then? That is exactly what happens in real life with the news items changing from what you said.

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Reading the match report will tell you whether the penalty was the correct/wrong decision. If it's wrong, you can then complain about the ref. If otherwise, say nothing and move on.

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Yes. reading the match report would do it.
If it says something along the lines of
" Nemanja Vidic through a huge right hook at Darren Bent. "

That would be a penalty.

If it says
"Nani goes down in the box"
and they give it as a penalty.

Be sure too criticize the ref for that call.

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[quote name='Reganio']So its realistic then? That is exactly what happens in real life with the news items changing from what you said.[/QUOTE]

no, because the player reacts to the news statement an not your statement

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Look at the ref's performance on the post-match anaylsis screen too that will give you a hint. e.g. "The ref had a good game" or "his decisions were pretty straight-forward" means don't criticise. "Was biased towards the hosts." means plug away.

I've criticised the ref a few times and the FA have always remained silent. Would be better if the ref got banned for a few games, or had some other effect. 3 yellow cards (Graham Poll) would be nice too :)

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Always say nothing and that way you cant upset either the authorities or your players.

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[quote name='FrazT']Always say nothing and that way you cant upset either the authorities or your players.[/QUOTE]

You shouldnt really have to though. No manager says nothing every time something controversial happens. If something is wrong then you should be able to choose the option to say so without getting fined every time. If we are just supposed to say nothing every time there really is no point in having this feature in the game.

Every week a manager says that he thinks a certain descision was wrong but he doesnt get fined. The only way you get fined is if you basically call the ref a cheat or overstep the mark. It seems like there is no middle ground with the game though and every disagreeing response is like calling the ref a cheat.

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[quote name='FrazT']Always say nothing and that way you cant upset either the authorities or your players.[/QUOTE]

Sadly thats what I do now which renders the PCs a complete waste of time, you either have to click through them saying nothing or send the assistant and risk him upsetting your players.

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