Tankqull Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Hi wow 1. post since i found your 4-1-2-3 tactic i´m a great fan of your tactics but i must admit that this tactic is somehow creepy... it is extreamly offensive while not really creating goals due to it but conseeding alot on the other hand. i tweeked your 4-1-2-3 into a 4-1-2-1-2 and kept your superior "nike-defense" while scoring alot of goals without conseeding that much (within 4 holiday moded seasons i scored 15(71&74 vs 77&83)goals less than you but conseeded 41 goals less(28&21 vs 39&51) too.... maybe you´ll take a look at it http://www.filefront.com/17152606/Bielefeld-4-1-2-1-2.tac/ PS: if you change the AMC into an inside foward with less creativity he turns into a goalscoring maniac increasing his value tremendously(if you want to sell him ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_R.U.F.C Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Trying this tactic out with Benfica, 2nd season. Seen as i was doing very poor but until i started using it these are the results; 5-1 - Mafra(Portugal Cup) 6-1 - A.C Milan(CL, yes i won!) 0-1 - Nacional Da Madeira, only loss. 4-0 - Vit. Guimares 3-3 - A.C Milan So far so good, hope i can climb the league table, Dentinho has been class as a Striker instead of being on the wing. Nice tactic you got here Mr. Hough and i thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkev Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 played a few games in the russian first division with this.. my team Zhemchuzhina were top before i changed to this tactic. we won a couple and lost a couple, doesn't seem like a great plug and play tactic. maybe it works better with top teams though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 played a few games in the russian first division with this.. my team Zhemchuzhina were top before i changed to this tactic. we won a couple and lost a couple, doesn't seem like a great plug and play tactic. maybe it works better with top teams though It's not a 'Plug and Play' Tactic thats why. You can't expect to have great success without getting in the right players having good team talks training all these things out and are a MUST if you want to reach potential with any tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 You had any luck with tightening up the defence yet, Dave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 You had any luck with tightening up the defence yet, Dave? Not yet greame hopefully soon though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee_Simpson Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 I would prefer the winger tactic now that you have mentioned it lol. It would be great to use wingers again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skullz) Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Can someone re-upload the tactic? Link's not working for me.. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinteo Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Lets make one together (your inbox is full, get on msn ) that would make this forum frantic with anticipation. Yes Please. Do announce soon that TBH and Mr H are working on a winger tactic together. I;m sure with those 2 tactical brains working on a winger tactic, Wide play winger tactics can finally have a foothold on FM2010! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hough Posted July 30, 2010 Author Share Posted July 30, 2010 I'm working on a winger tactic myself and having massive success with tottenham first season no buys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 Yes, would be rly insane. For all waiting for winger tactic, try using 4-4-2 @ THB tweak. I had massive succes with it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DREAM Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 GCS please give us a link to 442 TBH tweak tactic, because i tried to implement TBH hints but i don't know why tac is very weak... Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_magico89 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 I'm working on a winger tactic myself and having massive success with tottenham first season no buys. mr hough. is it going to be a 442 or a kind of a 451 system? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corkey Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 mr hough.is it going to be a 442 or a kind of a 451 system? 4-2-4. 2 MCs, 2 AMR/L, 2 FC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcs Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 http://www.filefront.com/17158889/4-4-2 pwnzooordzjeeh (Aston Villa, wrz. 2009).tac try this DREAM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cragswfc Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 http://www.filefront.com/17158889/4-4-2 pwnzooordzjeeh (Aston Villa, wrz. 2009).tac try this DREAM any specific instruction's weed need to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_magico89 Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 4-2-4. 2 MCs, 2 AMR/L, 2 FC. wow, looking forward to see, how mr.hough is going to create the formation withouth having big problems with the defence. sounds very offensive from my personal view. good luck anyway!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysrovers Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Great tactic once I modified it, I moved the two MC's to the MR & ML positions. In some cases I would select "use target man" and other times not. I would suggest using the way I modded it for lower league teams that arent good as it was used with success at Limerick FC and currently with Blackpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassounds Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 THIS IS A COPY AND PASTE OF WHAT I WROTE IN MR HOUGHS OTHER THREAD:Simply incredible! Everyone is asking for the new 4-1-2-1-2 from Mr Hough but what about tweaking the existing one, it's amazing! This is my first season in the Premier League so far with it playing as Oxford, with an average squad at best. The tactic: http://www.mediafire.com/?8uxjkf2kph2ys7n Cool, glad the changes/tweaks I posted about might have worked for other people. It's really all small changes from the original Mr. Hough 4-1-2-1-2. Going to try the new 4-1-2-1-2 and see how it works out. Peace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haziqmck7 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 can anyone recommend me...which 41212 tactic should i use...i mean...with no defense problem and have good attack...i have seen several tweak version from mr h tactics...but which of them is really good...cause im in my fifth season...and it seems impossible to score a goal...coz AI played defensively and quiet robust... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulsenas Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 try dave byrd tweaked 41212 tactics. it is very good in defence. In 30 games i conceded only 11 goals, didn't lose yet. Attack is also great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savell Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Dave, you working on a new tactic means your not going to sort the defence on this one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmarsh1980 Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 please can u put up some screen shots of the team and player instructions i would like to try them out in my fml game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassounds Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 try dave byrd tweaked 41212 tactics. it is very good in defence. In 30 games i conceded only 11 goals, didn't lose yet. Attack is also great. I've had luck with this approach. I believe that Dave used most/all the tweaks I'd posted (and many thanks to him for uploading this tactic). Dave, did you find any changes to my suggestions helpful? With regard to making changes to the tactics, I would encourage this, especially for the strikers. Just remember that one has to change the actual sliders, as changing the "role" will do nothing as the settings are all customized. For example, if you have a striker who is fast, has great dribbling, not as strong passing and creativity, one might change the left striker tactics from a trequarista type role, to a role with more run with ball, less creativity, less through balls, and more short passing. That's just one (incomplete) example. In general, I find the mids, and especially the defense and DM to be pretty set, so change these with care. (And, it is the success of these positions that is fully a result of Mr. Hough's work). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polistus Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 I'm trying out the dave byrd tweaked 41212 tactics after some largely unsuccessful own experiments with the 41212 formation. There's one question though: what player attributes are important for each position? I'm trying to bring some success to Portsmouth after their promotion from League 1! Not easy! Are they the same than those in Mr Hough's opening post? Thanks! Also, do you use any specific opposition instructions? I usually ask my assistant and do what he says. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmtacticsplz Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Been using this tactic with AFC Wimbledon and think it's taken them just about as far as they can go. Got promoted through the play-offs from the BSP, won league two the following season, then won league one the season after that. Now in my 2nd season in the Championship and, just as in the 1st season, am spending it flirting with relegation. I'm rarely ever the better team any more and even when I am, my players seem to miss bundles of chances then concede at the first chance they get. The only wins I get are when I get lucky with the other side being wasteful and my strikers scoring on the counter. I was expecting the Championship to be tough of course, but after dominating every home game in league one and losing just one of them, I didn't expect to be getting turned over this much in the next league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polistus Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I must say that this tactic (dave byrd tweaked 41212) has done wonders to my Portsmouth team in the Championship: won the league with 109 points! When I took charge of the club, I could not have any big signings, I could afford mostly youngsters and ageing players on free, including Frank Lampard (my captain). We were predicted 22nd place but thanks to this tactic it was a very good season for us. By the way, I used Wolfsongs teamtalk guide for team talk and no opposition instructions. Thanks for making this tactic and tweaking it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulsenas Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I must say that this tactic (dave byrd tweaked 41212) has done wonders to my Portsmouth team in the Championship: won the league with 109 points! When I took charge of the club, I could not have any big signings, I could afford mostly youngsters and ageing players on free, including Frank Lampard (my captain). We were predicted 22nd place but thanks to this tactic it was a very good season for us. By the way, I used Wolfsongs teamtalk guide for team talk and no opposition instructions. Thanks for making this tactic and tweaking it! yes it's a great tactic. My team is Bath. I took them from BSS to Premier league. I also use Wolfsongs team talks and no opposition instructions. When facing strong opposition, I sometimes change strategy from control to counter though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatOne Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 try dave byrd tweaked 41212 tactics. it is very good in defence. In 30 games i conceded only 11 goals, didn't lose yet. Attack is also great. what kind of players are required? My full-backs seem to be having low rating all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulsenas Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 what kind of players are required?My full-backs seem to be having low rating all the time. I try to buy best fullbacks I can afford. I think they are very important in such formation. Also I make sure I have enough backup for these positions, because they cover a lot of area and gets tired. I look at these attributes: marking, tackling, positioning, acceleration, pace, stamina, crossing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidHoops Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 the amount of off target shots from outside the box are incredibly annoying, just had a game with Tottenham against West Ham, 22 shots at goal, 4 on target how do i stop them from shooting from long range every chance they get????? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frattonstation Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 BUMP !!! the best tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si_Jewell Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Tried the Dave Byrd tactic out for 4 games, won 1, lost 3.. cant really seem to see how it works to an advantage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieSpaghettis Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 the best tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathxxx Posted January 30, 2011 Share Posted January 30, 2011 Thanks for reminding me this needed moving to the Tactics Sharing section Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechibaw Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 anyone can reupload this tactic please? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generation-Next Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 6. Years. Ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechibaw Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I know, but I try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechibaw Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Hi @Mr Hough , you've sent me a PM to tell me that you've got all your fm10 tactics, can you uplad them please? thanks a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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