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This Game Is Dirty, Yellow, Red, Fouls, Pen Bug

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Or is it my team?

This is just the Primer league you could easily add an additional 30 yellow cards from Champions League, FA, League Cups, not to mention 3/4 red cards.

But the other clubs seems just as dirty. I don't play hard tackles, if anything all is on defaults. There was one time I had all 4 of my centre backs on suspensions. Had to field my two Defensive midfielders as CBs.

Also the amount of Pens seems too high to me too. These stats are from 35 games. I have 3 more games till end of season. So good indication of how bad the yellow, red, pen bug is.

I think this year the level of attributes has been turned up a notched. Example, If player has shoot from distance as a PPM and your tactical instructions for Long Shot is to "Sometimes" he will go out with Long Shot set as Often.

I think this is the same with tackling other attributes like Opposition Instructions, PPM Marks tightly, PPM Forceful tackle, Team Instructions all contribute to turning Tackling and Longshot a notch or two high then Personal Instructions.

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Most of my red cards come from a player going for a header and "tripping" the opposing player.I then put him on easy tackling and he just does it again.Happens all the time no matter what i do.And then my striker is through on goal and gets wiped out but yet the offender doesnt even get a yellow.Very strange.

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The animation doesn't help. The way the ball is 10 yards of the player and he is tripped, in real life, easily be a yellow but ref always passes it off as a caution at most.

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In my game a team recieved 96 yellow cards and 8 red cards in just 30 matches but I don't remember noticing this in games involving my club.

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I was going to post a thread just like this one.

In my game with Zenit no team in the league has less then 3 red cards for the season and most teams have around 5-6 red cards with 2 teams having 9 reds.

Also keep in mind that the Russian league is 30 games long.

Definitely a problem here.

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Same issue here. Averaging almost a penalty per game and probably just as many red cards. Ended many games with 9 men and sold a defender after assuming he was just a thug. Only to find that all my defenders do this on whatever setting I have tackling.

Opposition are getting a lot sent off too but probably not as many as my teams.

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Do you guys use ask ass man for Opposition Instructions? I did for the first 20 games but found out he had "hard" on tackling on pretty much every player on the team including the opposite manager.

I think AI set their Opposition Instructions on hard tacking too.

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Try setting your central defenders as limited defenders.If youre using an DMC set his tackling easy.Worked for me for a season and i also stopped using offside trap which was causing lots of cards.Oh and Dont use man marking,use tight marking

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Yea far too much red cards. Im just had 3 in 3 games. 2 of them was the same player, one time in league, other time in uefa cup.

You think the players would learn about their mistakes, because I always fine my players when they get a red card. But seems they keep doing it.

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I only really have trouble with 2 players, De Rossi & Mexes, :mad: They just cannot control themselves!

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Try setting your central defenders as limited defenders.If youre using an DMC set his tackling easy.Worked for me for a season and i also stopped using offside trap which was causing lots of cards.Oh and Dont use man marking,use tight marking

Not the point of setting defenders to limited. What if I want to play central defender? Can't really.

Seems to be a clear bug where players show more aggression then normal or refs are Paul Daniels producing cards left right and centre. Long shot bug is a problem, reducing to rarely seems to be ok but still not the point.

SI needs to have a look at this.

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On the League you posted:

2008 / 2009:

YELLOW CARDS

Blackburn - 77

Stoke City - 75

Tottenham - 74

Sunderland - 72

Hull City - 69

WBA - 66

Newcastle - 64

Man Utd - 63

West Ham Utd - 60

Arsenal - 59

Portsmouth - 59

Manchester City - 56

Wigan Athletic - 55

Bolton - 53

Aston Villa - 52

Middlesbrough - 52

Chelsea - 50

Everton - 49

Liverpool - 48

Fulham - 39

Total - 1,192

RED CARDS

Newcastle - 8

Man Utd - 5

Portsmouth - 5

Stoke City - 5

Tottenham - 5

Blackburn - 4

Manchester City - 4

West Ham Utd - 4

Wigan Athletic - 4

Arsenal - 3

Chelsea - 3

Hull City - 3

Middlesbrough - 3

Aston Villa - 2

Bolton - 1

Everton - 1

Fulham - 1

Sunderland - 1

WBA - 1

Liverpool - 0

Total - 63

Penalty goals scored

Chelsea - 7

Manchester Utd - 6

Aston Villa - 6

Birmingham City - 6

Blackburn - 5

Liverpool - 5

Arsenal - 5

Tottenham - 4

Portsmouth - 4

Wigan Athletic - 4

Newcastle Utd - 3

Fulham - 2

Middlesbrough - 2

Reading - 2

West Ham Utd - 2

Manchester City - 2

Everton - 1

Sunderland - 1

Derby County - 0

Bolton - 0

2007 / 2008

YELLOW CARDS

Middlesbrough - 81

Bolton - 77

Blackburn - 70

Birmingham - 69

Chelsea - 66

Sunderland - 66

West Ham Utd - 66

Derby County - 66

Wigan Athletic - 62

Fulham - 60

Reading - 60

Portsmouth - 60

Newcastle - 59

Aston Villa - 55

Arsenal - 53

Tottenham - 53

Manchester City - 52

Man Utd - 51

Liverpool - 46

Everton - 38

Total - 1,210

RED CARDS

Blackburn - 6

Chelsea -6

Fulham - 6

Reading - 5

Manchester City - 4

Wigan Athletic - 4

Aston Villa - 4

Sunderland - 4

Portsmouth - 3

Arsenal - 3

Birmingham - 3

Everton - 3

Man Utd - 2

West Ham Utd - 2

Middlesbrough - 2

Newcastle - 1

Derby County - 1

Tottenham - 1

Liverpool - 1

Bolton - 0

Total - 61

Penalty goals scored

Arsenal - 10

Everton - 8

Liverpool - 6

Aston Villa - 6

Bolton - 6 6

Tottenham - 6

Blackburn - 5

Manchester Utd - 5

Newcastle Utd - 5

Middlesbrough - 4

Fulham - 4

Charlton - 4

Watford - 3

Chelsea - 3

Wigan Athletic - 3

Reading - 3

Portsmouth - 2

Sheffield Utd - 2

Manchester City - 2

West Ham Utd - 1

It seems fairly even to me on the stats you've given?

Or do you have more examples where they are wildly different?

Edit: Should have said, the above are the actual Premiership stats for those seasons.

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No, it's just Man Utd :D

Seriously though, I don't get this myself, and I have a fairly aggressive tactic, with most of the OIs saying to go in hard!

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Something I've noticed is that when I ask my assistant to choose my opposition instructions (Sammy lee at Liverpool) he literally sets hard tackling on every opposition player except for the keeper - could this be the cause?

One other thing that bothers me is the number of subs made by the opposition either before or during the half time interval. About 80% of the team the opposition has made 2 subs going into the second half...

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Do you guys use ask ass man for Opposition Instructions? I did for the first 20 games but found out he had "hard" on tackling on pretty much every player on the team including the opposite manager.

I think AI set their Opposition Instructions on hard tacking too.

No, as I said in my thread, tackling was normal.

On the League you posted:

2008 / 2009:

YELLOW CARDS

Blackburn - 77

Stoke City - 75

Tottenham - 74

Sunderland - 72

Hull City - 69

WBA - 66

Newcastle - 64

Man Utd - 63

West Ham Utd - 60

Arsenal - 59

Portsmouth - 59

Manchester City - 56

Wigan Athletic - 55

Bolton - 53

Aston Villa - 52

Middlesbrough - 52

Chelsea - 50

Everton - 49

Liverpool - 48

Fulham - 39

Total - 1,192

RED CARDS

Newcastle - 8

Man Utd - 5

Portsmouth - 5

Stoke City - 5

Tottenham - 5

Blackburn - 4

Manchester City - 4

West Ham Utd - 4

Wigan Athletic - 4

Arsenal - 3

Chelsea - 3

Hull City - 3

Middlesbrough - 3

Aston Villa - 2

Bolton - 1

Everton - 1

Fulham - 1

Sunderland - 1

WBA - 1

Liverpool - 0

Total - 63

Penalty goals scored

Chelsea - 7

Manchester Utd - 6

Aston Villa - 6

Birmingham City - 6

Blackburn - 5

Liverpool - 5

Arsenal - 5

Tottenham - 4

Portsmouth - 4

Wigan Athletic - 4

Newcastle Utd - 3

Fulham - 2

Middlesbrough - 2

Reading - 2

West Ham Utd - 2

Manchester City - 2

Everton - 1

Sunderland - 1

Derby County - 0

Bolton - 0

2007 / 2008

YELLOW CARDS

Middlesbrough - 81

Bolton - 77

Blackburn - 70

Birmingham - 69

Chelsea - 66

Sunderland - 66

West Ham Utd - 66

Derby County - 66

Wigan Athletic - 62

Fulham - 60

Reading - 60

Portsmouth - 60

Newcastle - 59

Aston Villa - 55

Arsenal - 53

Tottenham - 53

Manchester City - 52

Man Utd - 51

Liverpool - 46

Everton - 38

Total - 1,210

RED CARDS

Blackburn - 6

Chelsea -6

Fulham - 6

Reading - 5

Manchester City - 4

Wigan Athletic - 4

Aston Villa - 4

Sunderland - 4

Portsmouth - 3

Arsenal - 3

Birmingham - 3

Everton - 3

Man Utd - 2

West Ham Utd - 2

Middlesbrough - 2

Newcastle - 1

Derby County - 1

Tottenham - 1

Liverpool - 1

Bolton - 0

Total - 61

Penalty goals scored

Arsenal - 10

Everton - 8

Liverpool - 6

Aston Villa - 6

Bolton - 6 6

Tottenham - 6

Blackburn - 5

Manchester Utd - 5

Newcastle Utd - 5

Middlesbrough - 4

Fulham - 4

Charlton - 4

Watford - 3

Chelsea - 3

Wigan Athletic - 3

Reading - 3

Portsmouth - 2

Sheffield Utd - 2

Manchester City - 2

West Ham Utd - 1

It seems fairly even to me on the stats you've given?

Or do you have more examples where they are wildly different?

Edit: Should have said, the above are the actual Premiership stats for those seasons.

Thats all very nice, but when tackling is set to normal I expect to be in the middle of those stats, not winning the bookings table.

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I had a season when Mascherano got something like 7 reds on his own. He was suspended as much as he played.

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Played about 12 games in my season in level 10 of England. Early days I noticed a lot of penalties and bookings/reds.

I changed my tactics so my players stayed in their position and maybe a few other things. Last match there was only 1 yellow card, and that was for the opposition. On top of that, according to the commentary, 3 'good' claims for a penalty were turned down. 2 of them for me :(

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I had a fair few. Had to drop my tackling instructions to lower settings.

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I don't like how quite often the yellow cards are given for "pulling a shirt" and I had a red card the other day for someone "hacking him down with two feet" when the ball was mid air. Seems a bit ridiculous to me some of the cards handed out.

Alan Smith got 20 league bookings for me in my Championship season, on EASY tackling. Says it all.

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