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I agree with Dafuge on this one, I never take a striker spot. I just find more skill in building a class defender or midfielder. But he is right the best spots end up being gone before you even start. If somebody gives you the idea or has helped out go for it, but other than that I think tough bikkies, be here when it goes live, too late you lose.

Most sign-ups take 24 hours at least to fill up, and think about it all of you have a pretty good advantage over me anyway, most sign-ups are posted in British Evening, early morning for me here in NZ. I would absolutely vote for no reserving spots...

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Agree 100% with you mate, It should be free for all, and spots shouldn't be given to people who check the idea's thread more than others.

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I totally agree. The only reason I reserved a space for CV's sign-up was because I came up with the original idea so I thought it was only fair. :)

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yeah i think that the case minisav has is the only case where reserving a spot is fair if you came up with the original sign up

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Yeah, sorry to all who couldn't get a striker spot (Like you Mr. Pablo Gonzalez aka Blackcats :))

And I was planning to reserve a spot for roberto at least, but I wouldn't need one because I'm the manager. :D

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[B]The New Europe

[/B]So I have been developing on this idea slowly, it is taking time, I realised what my database error was I had no 'scottish' teams in "A Lower Division" so this was causing issues when it tried to make the scottish cup...so I believe I have fixed the problem. I am working on the idea slowly and building it out.

[B]The Leagues[/B]

USSR - This will include all the former soviet republics
UK - Scotland, N. Ireland, Wales and England United
East Germany - Will take the longest seperating who is east and west
West Germany - As above
Yugoslavia - Joining these nations together as well
Czechoslovakia - Recombining these two as well
Basque - All the Basque Spanish teams shall have their own league (34 teams will replace Slovakia I believe)

Now this is leaving me with an issue that I have a large number of nations that now will not exist, but I am trying to figure out how it is best to fix this up. One of the ideas was to remove the nations from the database, but I think this might cause more problems. If anyone has an idea or can think of some more splits I could make this would be great, otherwise I will come up with something, it might just take a while longer to achieve it.

[B]The Teams Placement

[/B]I was originally going to do this purely on team reputation, but for example in the UK this would mean the Premiership has 18 English teams and 2 Scottish Teams, and Wales top team is only in the BSP level. So I am going to do it on a population ratio as well as Reputation. EG. The Premiership would have 16 English Teams, 2 Scottish Teams, 1 Welsh Team & 1 N. Irish Team. And this ratio would continue down through the leagues. I will follow a similar basis when doing the USSR League as it will make the balance fairer and also sort it so that there are teams from all the nations within every level, even if within a few seasons this will change.

[B]Help I need

1. [/B]Research - West vs East Germany Clubs & towns.
[B]2. [/B]More possible country split ups. eg Turkey?
[B]3. [/B]How to split the German Players & Spanish players properly.
[B]4.[/B] Any help at all in a way to make a mass edit, eg. Being able to change all players with Scottish Nationality to United Kingdom easily.

If anyone can think of anything else that would be a great help as well.

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How far back you going for these split ups.

There was Austria-Hungary circa WW1. They had some of the Balkans at some point iirc.

If you go back further then UK could become British Empire ;)

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[quote name='minisav']How far back you going for these split ups.

There was Austria-Hungary circa WW1. They had some of the Balkans at some point iirc.

If you go back further then UK could become British Empire ;)[/quote]

I did think about Austria-Hungary, but decided against it in the end, I think now I want to find more nations to use not less, as that one and British Empire would both create the issue of having less nations, and giving me more gaps throughout the database. I want to get an entire nation clear of anything, people included and see what happens. I may just remove a nation from the database and see what happens.

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you could do a Scandanavian (sp) league?

if you did i'd be willing to sort out reputation & population etc, and which clubs should go in each division if you wanted?

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I will happily help with researching east and west germany clubs.

Do you want me to compile an excel sheet with teams from each region with their reputation?

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Alright. British Empire would only change them surely? Like Australia would just become Britain. Would mean more effort though.

I may be misunderstanding you so you may want to ignore.

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[quote name='PaulHartman71']you could do a Scandanavian (sp) league?

if you did i'd be willing to sort out reputation & population etc, and which clubs should go in each division if you wanted?[/quote]

A Scandanavian League actually sounds like a great idea as well. But still falls into the problem of reducing nations.

[quote name='corinthiano']I will happily help with researching east and west germany clubs.

Do you want me to compile an excel sheet with teams from each region with their reputation?[/quote]

Yes please Corintiano that would be awesome and exactly what I would need for those leagues.

[quote name='minisav']Alright. British Empire would only change them surely? Like Australia would just become Britain. Would mean more effort though.

I may be misunderstanding you so you may want to ignore.[/quote]

I think it is a misunderstanding. Currently I am moving all Scottish Players to what used to be the English Nationality, now it is UK Nationality. So my problem is developing from what happens to the old 'Scottish' Nationality and what issues it is going to cause in the database in regards to the number of teams in the Champions League, how European Competitions will be done and other issues similar. I am just unsure on whether it is possible to remove Nationalitys from the database all together especially seen as it will cause issues in international type fixtures. So hoping i can find a way to fill the missing ones. Splitting Cyprus is another idea that has passed through my head ;)

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I may be completely off track but perhaps a Portguese or French Empire, where all the clubs from the former colonies of those countries could be included. Would mean that some African clubs etc could get into some of these leagues. Of course I may be missing the point completely!

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I think the biggest problem I am going to face is Nationalitys. Making all these leagues is no trouble at all, infact its almost easy. I think what I may need to do is to just leave teams & Players with their current nationalitys which does mean that disappointgly there would be no International game between USSR & UK, but it will prevent the causing of having to remove nationalities from the database...

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Ok, I will have it done within the next couple of days. The only tricky bit will be the Berlin teams as I will have to see whether they were based in the east or west of the city.

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Yeah that was one bit where was looking at it and a bit worried :) But close enough will be fine :)

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Would make it interesting, but I found [url=http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20071219/93261437.html]this[/url] article on separatism throughout Europe, not sure how manageable it would be, but it would at least be possible to just add the nationalities in to fill the current blank ones ;) Giving the teams the same ranking pts etc as their current national side. And possibly giving them some of the clubs in their regions. That combined with the large Leagues would almost be perfect. Today is Challenge day, tomorrow I will be back to Database :)

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How about Catalonian teams? You could mix them with Basque to bring the overall quality up or make seperate league?

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That was another one I thought of. Someone in the editors forum has also suggested to me some of the smaller countries in Europe and giving them their own leagues and nation set-up. I am getting plenty of ideaws, I jsut know its a huge mission, so aim is before the end of January to ahve built the database and have run 5 or so trial games to make sure it works in all the necessary places.

Transylvania also wanna split from Romania so that could be fun :P

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Some ideas from around the place.

- Sicily
- Corsica
- Greenland
- Gozo
- Gibraltar
- Northern Cyprus
- Vatican City? (clutching at straws now)
- North/South Vietnam,
- Tibet,
- Kurdistan,
- West Bank,
- Gaza,
- West Papua
- Catalonia
- Translyvania

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Well, both the West Bank and Gaza are supposed to be Palestine, so maybe keep the two of them together but make them their own league

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That was my thought on it Spartans, as for the others some of them will not have leagues at all, but just creating the nations so there are no gaps in the database basically. The aim being to have all the European and Asian nations filled even if it is with a province 'breaking away' and their teams continue to play in the main leagues. For example say I take Transylvania out, they would become their own nation with players, but continue to play in Romania, or Vatican City as a nation in the game could be fun, but they would have a club team in the Italian league.

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It is not going to be a new Erope, but a new world! :D

Just wanted to let you know I have spearated 60% of the German into East and West teams in my excel spreadsheet, teams with a rep of 1000 and below are to be done, should have it finished tomorrow evening/night (english time).

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Thanks dude, it will make it an awesome set-up, now I think I should get back into the database so I can get it closer to completed.

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[quote name='corinthiano']It is not going to be a new Erope, but a new world! :D

Just wanted to let you know I have spearated 60% of the German into East and West teams in my excel spreadsheet, teams with a rep of 1000 and below are to be done, should have it finished tomorrow evening/night (english time).[/quote]

Ahem, I took first dibs on a [url=http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=86049]new world[/url] ;)

You lads can take the old world one though. :p

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Haha Rancer, you would say that. Its ok, the Database I am building is going to be massive, and mainly a base for a small club to big club challenge.

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I think I just gave you an idea about a catchy title for your challenge. :p (old world hehe)

Still deleting those Welsh players atm...a lot of Welsh players have Davies at a last name :eek:

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[quote name='Lower Leagues Rule']haha Robert set you up, hopefully he gets Morgan and Jones :P[/quote]

And Evans and Hughes. :D

I'll let roberto delete Robert Jones for sure. :D

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Haha well I have got to the point of having all the UK Clubs moved into one nationality, that was a bloody massive mission haha. Next up is moving the Italian clubs into the old Scotland now called Italy. Then I can move the USSR Clubs into the old Italy now called USSR.

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I think for some of the smaller provinces that I create as nations I will just give them a couple of clubs and let them build their own players through Regens etc.

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Mate, This is going to be amazing when finished. I'd love to help on anything you need. Researching would probably be my best strength, Best of luck mate!

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Well Pluck compiling a list of all the USSR teams and their respective Reputations could help, otherwise you could check out some of the smaller nations and report back to me on which ones seem to have enough clubs to fill a league, probably 2 level leagues so need 50+ clubs or there abouts.

[B]Research List that needs doing if anyone can help[/B]

[B]1.[/B] USSR - A full list of clubs from Russia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan & Tajikistan. [B](Thanks Pluckaduck)[/B]

[B]2. [/B]Catalonia/Basque - A full list of clubs with reputation, giving an idea of what size league they can fill.

[B]3. [/B]Czechoslovakia - Club list with Reputations. Slovakia & Czech Rep.

[B]4. [/B]Yugoslavia - Club List, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro & Slovenia.

[B]5. [/B]Provincal Splits - Research of any parts of nations that want to seperate and how many clubs they would have, whether they can fill their own league or would be part of another.

[B]6. [/B]China - Would a provincial Split of China be possible?

[B]7. [/B]East/West Germany - Split it out [B](Thanks a heap Corinthiano[/B])

I think those are the major research projects I need right now. Hopefully by this time 2moro I have moved around all the major nations and have a database test running to tell me that it is working how I intend it too. (This test will have nations labelled "Nation 1" etc as I don't know all the spots yet.)

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Ok mate, ON FM, I searched Russia, and I got a list of 26 clubs, but when I got on the editor, It appears that there are alot more. Do you just want the 26? Or do you want every club from Russia on the editor?

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All the clubs if you possibly can please, and yeah on the game it doesn't show them all when you are not playing there, even when you are I am sure some are missing.

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At may take forever to compile the entire list, But I'm willing to. I just though of possibly an easier idea, what if I take a screenshot of a list of the teams next to their reputations in the database. If not that's alright, I just though it may make it easier and it won't take hours to write up.

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Its probably fine no matter how long it takes, it has taken me about 3-4 hours to edit only the UK Clubs into the correct Country, think about from there how much more there is to do. :)

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ALright mate, SO it's alright to take screenshots of each of thePages? I think that's what you mean, But I've had a long day at work, So I could be wrong.

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Thats cool if you can do that, can you sort them by Reputation first, just wanna be able to see all the clubs really, and have the list seperate to the editor. Thanks :)

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Rancer - I ws just bout to start on C - D :D Do you want me to take over at M and then finish it from there? THat's basically halfway through the alphabet and saves us from uploading a load of times

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[quote name='Lower Leagues Rule']Some ideas from around the place.

- Sicily
- Corsica
- Greenland
- Gozo
- Gibraltar
- Northern Cyprus
- Vatican City? (clutching at straws now)
- North/South Vietnam,
- Tibet,
- Kurdistan,
- West Bank,
- Gaza,
- West Papua
- Catalonia
- Translyvania[/quote]


Ossetia ;)

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Thats a good call Minisav...

Currently Distracted from my Editing as AD Fafe are attempting to Qualify for the Euro Cup. After finishing 8th in the Portuguese Liga Sagres in 2016/17, we hadn't qualified til the Sporting Play Draw came up with Portugal in the selection and as the four teams with less cards had qualified we were in, I have managed to win the first three qualifying stages, so only one left. After I complete that I should be back to editing.

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Well looks like it is unlikely to result in Qualification with our 4th Round Qualifying opponent being Inter Milan...But I will play those two games then head into the editing room.

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[B]Des[/B] I have finised spearating East and West Germany, what is the easisest way for me to send you the spreadsheet? Laso, do you the new Office? Otherwise I will save the spreadsheet as a Word 97-2003.

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I do have it, but only a trial, probably best as a 2003 spreadsheet.
Umm best option is probably to send it to the email I have PM'd you

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[B]New United Kingdom Leagues - A sneak peek[/B]

I have been working on organising these teams this morning and here is a sneak peek at the playable Leagues + Those that will be promoted if you holiday.

[B]UK Premier League[/B]
Man Utd
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham
Everton
Man City
Newcastle
Aston Villa
West Ham
Portsmouth
Blackburn
Middlesbrough
Bolton
Sunderland
Fulham
Rangers
Celtic
Linfield
Llanelli

[B]UK Championship[/B]
Wigan
West Brom
Stoke
Birmingham
Reading
Charlton
Hull
Wolves
Sheff Utd
Crystal Palace
Ipswich
Derby
Q.P.R.
Watford
Norwich
Aberdeen
Dundee Utd
Hibernian
Hearts
Motherwell
Falkirk
Kilmarnock
Glentoran
TNS

[B]UK League 1[/B]
Leeds
Cardiff
Southampton
St. Mirren
Inverness CT
Sheff Wed
Nottm Forest
Preston
Bristol City
Leicester
Dundee
Coventry
Dunfermline
Plymouth
Hamilton
St. Johnstone
Swansea
Barnsley
Burnley
Doncaster
Blackpool
Partick Thistle
Cliftonville
Rhyl

[B]UK League 2[/B]
Carlisle
Queen of Sth
Morton
Huddersfield
Livingston
Luton
Colchester
Scunthorpe
Millwall
Brighton
Tranmere
Southend
Oldham
Walsall
Crewe
Airdrie Utd
Swindon
Clyde
Gilingham
Peterborough
MK Dons
Yeovil
Portadown
Bangor City

[B]Blue Square Prem[/B]
Bristol Rovers
Bradford
Northampton
Hartlepool
Rotherham
Ross County
Port Vale
Stirling
Leyton Orient
Bournemouth
Brentford
Stockport
Raith
Wycombe
Cheltenham
Chesterfield
Rochdale
Notss Co
Lincoln
Darlington
Wrexham
Grimsby
Distillery
Welshpool

[B]Blue Square South[/B]
Brechin
Shrewsbury
Peterhead
Oxford
Mansfield
Barnet
East Fife
Cambridge
Ayr
Berwick
Cowdenbeath
York
Rushden
Stevenage
Dumbarton
Annan
Elgin
Ebbsfleet
Woking
Stenhousemuir
Ballymena Utd
Aberystwyth

[B]Blue Square North[/B]
Alloa
Bury
Queens Park
Hereford
Chester
Nacckesfiekd
Accrington
Exeter
Morecombe
Dag & red
Torquay
Stranraer
Aldershot
Forfar
Kidderminster
Burton
Forest Green
East Stirlingshire
Albion Rovers
Crawley
Dungannon
Carmarthen

[B]Ispwich[/B]
Montrose
Altrincham
Linlithgow Rose
Nuneaton
Tayport
Lewes
Coleraine*
Havant & W
Salisbury
Glenavon
Lochee Utd
Fraserburgh
Arthurlie
Chelmsford
Bangor*
Harrogate
Institute*
Newtown**
Maidenhead
Fleetwood
Bath
Northwich

[B]Northern[/B]
Kettering
Bathgate Thistle
Southport
Carnoustie
Eastbourne Boro
Crusaders*
Girvan
Spartans
Lossiemouth
Cutler
Preston Athletic
Rothes
Whitburn
Team Bath
Bellshill
Farsley
Beith
Eastleigh
Hayes & Yeading
Comnock
Connah's Quay**
Histon

[B]Southern[/B]
Barrow
Stafford
Bonnyrigg Rose Ath
Pollok
Clydebank
AFC Telford
Drolsden
Cove Rangers
Newry*
Buckie Thistle
AFC Wimbledon
Ketty Hearts
Camelon
Boston Utd
Port Talbot**
Stalybridge
Auchinleck
Bromley
Hampton & Richmond
Workington
Grays
Weymouth

The astericks are just my check to make sure every division had a team from N. Ireland and Wales. Hope you like the looks of them. I sorted completely by Reputation and also eg. Leeds was not allowed above their current level. From there I just worked down the list making sure every division had 2 Scottish Teams, 1 Northern Irish Team & 1 Welsh Team (This was based on population figures from last census) And hence here is what we have.

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Like the look of it :)

I have some time tonight so will go over Basque and Catalon clubs. If I don't finish tonight it will only be done by the weekend I am afraid though.

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Thanks Corinthiano :)

And Cardio I will try to explain how I sorted the clubs. I started by working out the % of the population in each of the 4 areas, and then multiplied it by 20 (rough number of clubs in each league), this showed that Wales should have 1 team, NI 1 team & Scotland 2 teams, so I made this the minimum number of clubs for each of them. England would dominate so no minimum for them.

I then sorted the entire list by Reputation and started down from the top leaving the 4 spaces open at the bottom for Scotland, NI & Wales. If one of their teams was at the level they took the spot. If there was more teams than the minimum that was great, but if they didn't have a team when the league was finished I found the next highest rep club for that nation and they moved up a league or so.

And thats how the list was compiled from top to bottom. Just working through level 9 now. 14 Leagues with 280 Clubs. And then it is actually putting this info into the database.

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