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Ok well DodgeeD beat me to it but still, it is a good idea.

Was really looking forward to birdy's but anyhow, I think doing an auction type thing is just asking for trouble really.

The easiest way I can think of would be to offer each player seperately in order of value (or anything else) for each position. So starting with the highest value GK and we all bid, then the next highest value and so on until we all have a GK, or two. Then do the same for defenders etc But that would be incredibly time consuming. Probably have to be closed bids as well otherwise all hell would break lose.

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Paul, got no clue what your idea is, but it sounds interesting. I just can't figure out why 34 is an optimal number...

Robert_296 - I have no idea how birdy did it either, but how about some sort of 'silent auction'. Everyone could submit how much they're willing to bid for each player, and they go to the highest bidder. Obviously you'd need to set an overall budget, and it would take a lot of organising on your part just initially. How many players does each team get?

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and people online more would get a better choice of players, so yeah not sure how that would work, but it's your decision.

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But surely it'd be better to reward people that are contributing more?

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yeah I know, maybe people could like bid for a cartain amount of players with a priority order and then the person with the highest bid gets them. Therefore you'd only get a couple of posts per week each. So for example say Paul had:

1. Ochoa £5 million
2. Lloris £7 million
3. Akinfeev £8 million
4. Ustari £4 million

and Ridleys had:

1. Cech £15 million
2. Ochoa £6 million
3. Robinson (Getting stuck for names :P) 2 million
4. Valdes £5 million

As Ridleys had offered more for Ochoa he would get Ochoa and Paul would then move down to his next priority for his third keeper and sign those players for his squad. Not a very good example but you get the jist? People would then edit their posts to prevent the thread from becoming clustered

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He got a list of players and then got people to sign up. The people who signed up first got to pick their team first therefore getting all the best players

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Right then, I've started planning my tournament, I've decided to be a bit selective this time due to the inactivity that ruined the last tournament, due to that it would be pretty much impossible to do a 32 team world cup so I have decided to stick with the European Championships format except there will be two big changes, instead of the group format that we started with last time it will be all knockout rounds, the second change is that the time limit will be taken from a week up to a week. Now heres the format I'm 99% certain will be used:

[U]CSE European Championships[/U]

First Knockout Round: 16 teams: 8 challenges
Quarter Final: 8 teams: 4 challenges
Semi Final: 4 teams: 2 challenges
Third Place Playoff: 2 teams: 1 challenge
Final: 2 teams: 1 challenge

If you have any ideas feel free to post them, I'll be grateful for any ideas

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[quote name='bermybhoy']Robert_296 - I have no idea how birdy did it either, but how about some sort of 'silent auction'. Everyone could submit how much they're willing to bid for each player, and they go to the highest bidder. Obviously you'd need to set an overall budget, and it would take a lot of organising on your part just initially. How many players does each team get?[/quote]

You mean they send me a PM/em mail about what players they want? But in the end they could end up with all their players being bought by someone else. I was thiking a squad of 22. 3 keepers, 7 defenders, 7 midfielders and 5 strikers :)

[quote name='roberto922']But surely it'd be better to reward people that are contributing more?[/quote]

I'm confused, what do you mean?

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[quote name='Robert_296']You mean they send me a PM/em mail about what players they want? But in the end they could end up with all their players being bought by someone else. [/quote]

That's why I suggested this...

[quote name='Whoopy D']The easiest way I can think of would be to offer each player seperately in order of value (or anything else) for each position. So starting with the highest value GK and we all bid, then the next highest value and so on until we all have a GK, or two. Then do the same for defenders etc But that would be incredibly time consuming. Probably have to be closed bids as well otherwise all hell would break lose.[/quote]

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Yeah, you would need several 'rounds' of bidding until everyone got a full compliment of players. That could be quite interesting, as you could be very tactical and bid extremely low for some players you think no-one else would go for, and way over the top for the supoerstars.

However, it might go on indefinitely :thdn:

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[quote name='roberto922']Right then, I've started planning my tournament, I've decided to be a bit selective this time due to the inactivity that ruined the last tournament, due to that it would be pretty much impossible to do a 32 team world cup so I have decided to stick with the European Championships format except there will be two big changes, instead of the group format that we started with last time it will be all knockout rounds, the second change is that the time limit will be taken from a week up to a week. Now heres the format I'm 99% certain will be used:

[U]CSE European Championships[/U]

First Knockout Round: 16 teams: 8 challenges
Quarter Final: 8 teams: 4 challenges
Semi Final: 4 teams: 2 challenges
Third Place Playoff: 2 teams: 1 challenge
Final: 2 teams: 1 challenge

If you have any ideas feel free to post them, I'll be grateful for any ideas[/quote]

Any opinions?...

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whoopy D, it sounds like a good idea but it would go on way too long. Bermy, so after each round of bidding everyone's bids would be revealed?

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Me and bermybhoy have both suggested exactly the same thing but in different words,no?

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roberto, it looks good. :)

Already got some ideas for the challenges. :D

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I thought I was never gonna get an answer :mad: :D

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:S yeah sorry, not having a very good day today :( Might be best to try and have a think about it tomorrow. I was thinking they bid for the players they want with priorities and they sign the first 3 available but as some people may be left without any keepers there would be anothe round of bidding for the other players until everyone has 3 keepers. Not perfect at all but I really can't see any way of making this perfect. It is just that people who got to pick first in Birdy's had a huge advantage

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Yeah I know what you're saying, I was pretty happy with my team in birdy's but then again I was about 4th on the list so :D

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[SIZE=7]OY!

[SIZE=2]Ahem, right then now that I have your attention, like I said in the post that no one saw (twice :() I'm gonna be more selective with the CSE European Championships to ensure it is alot better this time so I want to get a few people on board before I put it on the forum, this time I want the people that are on most days, post regularly and are good on FM. Just stick your name on the list if you want to take part and I'll be PMing a couple of the people that I really want on the challenge that don't really post on this thread. FWIW out of the lads that look on this thread that I'd like to take part are (not limited to though) Robert_296, PaulHartman71, Rancer890, DodgeeD, Walcott\'s_Wonderkids and bermybhoy, obviously I know that not all of you will have time to do it but its only one season every two weeks so it should be more than manageable.

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Unfortunately I'd be out. Not looking likely to get the game until I'm home at Christmas now quite apart from anything else.

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As much fun as the last one looked, I don't think I'll be able to take part - it seriously takes me blooming ages to complete a season due to work commitments.

If I didn't do my sign ups I'd have more time for it obviously ;)

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I'm like bermyboy. Probably not getting the game till Christmas...but since you say you're starting at Christmas I can probably take part. :)

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don't have the time unfortunately. Have a lot more work on my hands this year than I did last year, add that to potentially starting a new sign up in the near future, and I really wont have enough time to complete more than one season a week, and I would like to continue in canvey!!'s challenge, and dafuges.

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I'm in a similar boat to everyone else. My game time is limited anyway due to work and family commitments and once I get the game (by the weekend hopefully :)), there are a couple of big challenges I want to attempt. Would be interested if you do it at a later date though.

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Bah humbug :*( ;) I'll have to either wait a bit longer until more of you are less busy or start it with a load of people that don't take part :mad: I'll wait a while.

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ill take part deeply disapopinted at not being mentioned in that list after i completed every challenge last time

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That was people that post on here alot. Obviously I want people like you and Blanco to return.

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I post a lot in here, why wasn't I on the list?

Not that I'd want to take part, don't really have the time.

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You haven't posted on this thread since late August...

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Oh I thought you meant CSE in general, not specifically this thread.

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Well I didn't see the point in specifying people that wouln't see it. Plus I'm after people that finish things ;)

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I think on a forum were it is fairly rare for a sign-up to be finished, it's a bit harsh to have a dig at Ridleys for not finishing things.

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[quote name='roberto922']Bah humbug :*( ;) I'll have to either wait a bit longer until more of you are less busy or start it with a load of people that don't take part :mad: I'll wait a while.[/QUOTE]

The problem is that because everyone has just got the game and wants to play their own game or a dafuge / gundo -esque style game first, there isn't room for people to do interactive challenge like sign ups at the moment.

Best bet to wait for a few months and things settle down a bit more. :thup:

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[quote=Walcott\'s Wonderkids;2094466]The problem is that because everyone has just got the game and wants to play their own game or a dafuge / gundo -esque style game first, there isn't room for people to do interactive challenge like sign ups at the moment.

Best bet to wait for a few months and things settle down a bit more. :thup:[/quote]

ssestig's 20/20 challenge seems to be getting a lot of interest, and it's pretty much the same system as roberto's planned challenge.

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But his is open doors, I'm trying to get the best competitors in that I can.

EDIT: Plus that's like saying that the Premier League is like the Champions League...

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Slight problem I've found out about my planned sign up + experiment.

1st. I won't be able to run it on 9.01, as my mac operating system isn't supported.
2nd. I can't really use the data editor, as i have to download the patch, install it, delete some stuff, re install some stuff. It's a bit of complex process

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Trying to organise a bit of my sign up now. How long and how many rounds do oyu think I should do for each position? I thought two rounds of four days but then people could still be left without enough players.

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of how many days though? I don't have a problem with the length but I would prefer it to be done quickly. The thing is, if people make lots of bids for people in the first two or so rounds then people will have their players for that position.

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I think the only way you're going to find out is to try it, if it doesn't work you can always start again with a revised system.

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I guess I'll try with 2 rounds of 4 days and then if more time is needed then there can be another round

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Hi guys,

Apologies if this is old news but I haven't seen it posted anywhere, at least in this forum.

Did you know that in the data editor to go with the game, that there is now an option to 'Free all players'?!

You can all 'free all non players' or all persons, so that everyone starts unassigned on a free contract.


Someone has surely got to start an AI Experiment with this. :D

Plud Robert, it makes your proposed Fantasy Football sign up a bit easier as all the players are now unassigned from clubs. :thup:

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I noticed it and posted it in the group, I'm considering an experiment with all clubs equal rep and all the staff released but I don't have the time to set the reps :( There should be an option to delete all people on there.

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Hopefully Dietspam can make another database for no players so I can start my FM09 A New World Challenge/Signup/Experiment...

Just remembered something, are FM databases and WWSM databases compatible with each other? Or do I have to delete every single player...

And nice to see you're still awake roberto. :D

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I'm awake for the next 5 minutes when my laptop will lose power and I won't be able to charge it until tomorrow at the earliest due to my damn dog chewing the wire :mad: I swear to god I should just give up with computers :**(

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[quote name='weeeman27bob']Slight problem I've found out about my planned sign up + experiment.

1st. I won't be able to run it on 9.01, as my mac operating system isn't supported.
2nd. I can't really use the data editor, as i have to download the patch, install it, delete some stuff, re install some stuff. It's a bit of complex process[/QUOTE]

As the mac patch has now come out for me, I will probably be launching a sign-up over the weekend.

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[quote name='rancer890']
Just remembered something, are FM databases and WWSM databases compatible with each other? Or do I have to delete every single player...[/quote]

Personally, I think they are.

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