deez0r Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 Oh this season? Honestly cant remember Essien doing much wrong at all, fact that none of us remember probably says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted June 5, 2008 Share Posted June 5, 2008 I remember it, and if i remember well it was two footed but not by any stretch an attempt on the player. It's nonsense obviously, but an early reputation will stay. Vieira was still talked about as being a hard dirty player when he'd been the pussycat he was when he left for a couple of seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niggle Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 nice article on jt, says a lot about the man & shows john gaunt up to be even bigger of a prat than normal. Phone call that made me change my mind about Terry JON GAUNT - Sun Columnist I SLAGGED off John Terry and called him a crybaby last week. Only problem is, he reads it and phones me! I’m standing at the bar buying Alan Brazil another beer in the interval at the Rod Stewart concert when the mobile goes off. "Is that Gaunty?" "Yeah, who’s that?" "John Terry, Gaunty." "Oh yeah?!" (Or words to that effect!) "It is me, Gaunty." "Oh. What do you want?" "I want to talk about your column in The Sun." "I can’t talk now, I’m in Spain at the Rod Stewart concert with Brazil." Now I’m expecting a mouthful of expletives and abuse, but instead I get: "Oh right, sorry about that, Gaunty — didn’t mean to disturb you. Can I call you in the morning?" JT is polite, civil, well-mannered and considerate. In shock, I reply, "Yeah, phone me at 11." Next morning, bang on 11, JT phones back, asks me how the concert went and how my family are enjoying the break. Then he goes on to talk about my crybaby article. First things first, he was again polite and gentlemanly as he tried to explain why he cried when he missed that penalty. He told me how much the game meant to him, but also just how much Chelsea Football Club and their fans mean to him. I believed him and he nailed the myth that all modern footballers are only interested in the cash. This was definitely a young man who loves the badge with a passion and he went up massively in my estimation. Honesty It takes a big man to pick up the phone and have it out with me without resorting to threats or foul language. I also loved the way he talked frankly to me, a complete stranger. He said: "I’m not in any way embarrassed at crying." But, he insisted, he was upset that I had called him a crybaby. I again made the point that although I understood his passion and commitment to the team, I still felt that, as a leader and a captain, he should have shown more restraint and been consoling his team-mates rather than crying. He talked movingly about his friendship with Frank Lampard and about the support he has been giving Frank since his mother’s death. That part of the conversation will remain a secret between him and me, but suffice to say I was extremely moved by his words and although I didn’t blub, I was well on the way. He told me how much he enjoys both the column and the radio show, and that my comparison of him with Bobby Moore hurt him most. He actually said: "If I could be half the man Bobby was, I’d be a happy man." He also admitted his past mistakes, but said: "I’m trying to be a real man, father and husband now, Gaunty." And you know what? I believed him — and I was honestly moved by his honesty and integrity. Last week I said John wasn’t fit to walk in Bobby’s shadow or captain England. However, if he exhibited more of what he showed me on the phone, combined with his obvious talent and passion for his club and country, I now believe he could become a real leader of men Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Now I’m expecting a mouthful of expletives and abuse, but instead I get Why would you automatically think that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Because it's the stereotypical view of JT, no matter how nonsensical it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Baker Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 MUTU 'ORDERED TO PAY CHELSEA £9.6m' Romania striker Adrian Mutu has been ordered to pay his former club Chelsea £9.6m for testing positive for cocaine, according to his lawyer. Chelsea sacked Mutu in October 2004 and he was subsequently handed a seven-month worldwide football ban. His lawyer Cristian Sarbu said Fifa's decision was not final and that Mutu would contest the ruling. "This is a decision taken by a sporting tribunal. After this is final, this can be taken to a civil court," he said. The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) ruled last May that the world football body would decide Mutu's fine. In 2005, Mutu, who has since rebuilt his career first with Juventus and now Fiorentina, lost an appeal to CAS against his sacking by Chelsea. Chelsea had asked for £8m in compensation for a player they bought for £15m from Parma in 2003. The Premier League club felt Mutu had brought about his own downfall and wanted to recover the money they had lost on his transfer fee and wages. Neither Fifa nor Chelsea would confirm Sarbu's claims. BBC Sport So, this has yet to be confirmed - but thoughts? Personally, I think it's right that he has to pay - and based on his ability and market worth, it seems a pretty accurate figure. Not sure if it's worth it's own thread, but you guys probably have something to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Mutu Thread Check that out Don, some interesting points made from both view points. As you say, imo Mutu should be made to pay some sort of compensation but. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 cut myself off there.... .. but there was an argument saying Chelsea shouldnt recieve anything as they chose to 'discard him.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Baker Posted June 6, 2008 Share Posted June 6, 2008 Missed the other thread. Search function be damned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 10, 2008 Author Administrators Share Posted June 10, 2008 Zico now linked too. This is hilarious. Might as well just give to job to Shevchenko and have some fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca69 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I think the only person we have actually spoken to is Scolari, and maybe Ancelotti. I think that they have Scolari lined up and are just waiting for the end of the Euros. We need to get some of his players in though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deez0r Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Is there a manager who hasnt been linked with the job ffs? We have not came out and said we have talked to any manager whatsoever regarding the job, only talks I believe which have happened was Roman asking an opinion of Ancelotti. Wouldnt particularly want Zico, amazing player but is he really that good of a manager? Mind did well to get to Champions League Quarters. Still say Mon Zola! Oh and fuc|< right off with the Deco rumours, him replacing Lampard is a complete joke, replace Lampards 20 goals and assists a season with a whiny little, diving Portugeese knobhead. And if we do lose Drogba to Milan can we please not bring someone in with the same ego and whinyness of him aka Zlatan or Eto'o. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Bloom Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Deco iqg tbh. Am suprised that you don't seem close to appointing anyone though. Seemed obvious Grant was doomed early on so I assumed you had been in discussions with replacements weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deez0r Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Deco used to be good, from what I have seen of him this season he has been very poor, plus doesnt help that every Chelsea fan doesnt like him after some of his antics during our CL games. Yeah it does seem strange, pity that Roman wasnt fond of getting an up and coming manager like Hughes rather than a big name manager. Really not fond of most of the managers we are being linked with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Bloom Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I think Deco has been one of the more consistent performers in a pish Barca team (since xmas anyway). Hasn't been awesome, but rarely vanishes from a game like other midfielders there. You won't buy him, but I'm pretty convinced he'll go to some team in Italy and have a very good season. Wasn't fussed about your new manager when Grant went. Now oddly intrigued as there doesn't seem to be any kind of plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Can only assume that our main target is in charge of a team at the Euros and we are waiting till said team are out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Deco is an over rated ****. He can seriously **** off. Got literally nothing over Lampard for us. Laudrup still possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deez0r Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Originally posted by Poyplemonkeys:Deco is an over rated ****. He can seriously **** off. Got literally nothing over Lampard for us. Laudrup still possible. Wouldnt mind Laudrup, hopefully bring his brother with him to show 3 of our 4 wingers how to play football would be nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Originally posted by bridgekings:Can only assume that our main target is in charge of a team at the Euros and we are waiting till said team are out. some of the papers saying similar and mentioning Scolari Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Originally posted by Herman Bloom:Deco iqg tbh. Am suprised that you don't seem close to appointing anyone though. Seemed obvious Grant was doomed early on so I assumed you had been in discussions with replacements weeks ago. Deco is human garbage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Bloom Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 You're still bitter over your loss. It's OK. Leave poor Deco out of this though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I've been beefing about Deco for many moons now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Bloom Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 I know. Far worse performers in that team this season though. And at least he turned up in the second leg against Utd. Can only assume Xavi and Iniesta were saving themselves for the Russians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted June 11, 2008 Author Administrators Share Posted June 11, 2008 It's Scolari. Confirmed on the fisshal site now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Scolari announced, not really sure how I feel about that. I'm thinking meh. Not managed a club for 7 years, never managed in Europe, apparently doesn't speak a word of English. Suppose it's quite good news regarding Carvalho, and maybe opens up a Quaresma deal which I'd like a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRandomGuy Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Quite happy with Big Phil, at least it's not Rijkaard at any rate. Should help us keep hold of Ricky, but I fear he'll bring Deco with him :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Ye sounds good to me, pretty stubborn bastard by all accounts and thats what we needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didier Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Originally posted by Poyplemonkeys:Scolari announced, not really sure how I feel about that. I'm thinking meh. Not managed a club for 7 years, never managed in Europe, apparently doesn't speak a word of English. Suppose it's quite good news regarding Carvalho, and maybe opens up a Quaresma deal which I'd like a lot. Pretty much how I'm feeling - but well, probably a bit more positive. Has done well in his last two jobs, even if they weren't at clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonexile Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 It's an interesting appointment. Club gets the name manager they wanted without picking any of the really obvious candidates. Requisite PASSION will make him far more popular than Grant, but as has been pointed out, he hasn't managed in club football for seven years, and never at a major European side. I don't think the language barrier is a big deal except in terms of dealing with the media. Thumbs up from me in theory. Be interesting to see who stays and goes now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benoit2 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 At least its a character with some fire. Much better than a Grant constantly praising Ferguson ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRandomGuy Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 gonna get a tingly feeling down my spine when something goes wrong and the manager does something about it. Been so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Whilst this thread is here; Ben Sahar seems set to join NEC in Holland on loan for next season. iirc they managed to get a place in the UEFA cup next year through the playoff systems in place in the Dutch league. Will be a big year for him really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 The beeb and various Spanish newspapers are reporting that Deco has signed a two year contract (with an option for a third) with Chelsea. This means the end of either Ballack or Lampard, both of whom I'd rather have and even if both stayed, I don't want Deco anyway. Terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRandomGuy Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 gtf Deco. Will be extraordinarily ****ed off if Ballack or Lampard leave, still don't think they will fwiw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca69 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Drogba now saying that he is staying. I would like him to stay if his heart is in it, if not then bye bye. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcav Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 **** off deco. kaka is always welcome though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 God damn Deco coming, Drogba staying, how about some good news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 If we were going for a diminutive creative midfielder, I just find it strange that Deco was chosen- he's always been overrated and is now old and past his peak. We should have pushed for Diego or, better yet, Iniesta, who's position at Barca is apparently also open to question and even if he's physically a bit weak, his astonishing passing more than makes up for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razzler Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 an initial 2 year deal seems pretty short for someone like Deco, I guess it would make him a free agent again pretty soon ready a nice big signing on fee if things didnt work out with Chelsea. I'm still not convinced he's joining you. Drogba has been alternately hating Chelsea or loving being there since he's arrived hasnt he ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Mostly hating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yovan Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Originally posted by shanyi:If we were going for a diminutive creative midfielder, I just find it strange that Deco was chosen- he's always been overrated and is now old and past his peak. We should have pushed for Diego or, better yet, Iniesta, who's position at Barca is apparently also open to question and even if he's physically a bit weak, his astonishing passing more than makes up for it. What? Iniesta is a key player for Barça. Guardiola loves him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I heard a report a month or two ago that while Barca weren't putting him on the market, they weren't neccessarily averse to the idea of him leaving either, I think because they weren't sure how to fit him into their tactics or something. I was surprised as I think he's one of the most underrated and overlooked players in football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yovan Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Originally posted by shanyi:I heard a report a month or two ago that while Barca weren't putting him on the market, they weren't neccessarily averse to the idea of him leaving either, I think because they weren't sure how to fit him into their tactics or something. I was surprised as I think he's one of the most underrated and overlooked players in football. That report was wrong then. Barça will play 4-3-3 next season and Guardiola is the biggest fan of Iniesta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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