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  1. Welcome to my first career thread. Having lurked on the site since the Beta of FM17, and being inspired to try different styles of gameplay, now comes my first attempt to document a save. Background Having grown up with CM01/02 and remembering the split between CM and FM, there were a few years away from the game, having purchased FM09 then a gap until 17, I was looking for something different than taking over Liverpool (own team) and failing to avoid the sack. Stumbling across the forum I was drawn to the different styles of play and challenges, trying out the British Steel Challenge in FM17, and a Youth Only save using the Level 22 database (only going to L10 though) with Hayes and Yeading in FM18. While I haven't decided to make the leap to FM19 yet, I want to try documenting a save, seeing what happens as I try, usually fail, and how strictly I can stick to the rules I have enforced. Game Setup As the title suggests I am loading up the divisions in Belgium, Holland, and Luxembourg. I have also added the big 5 as low as they will go (Claassen megapack loaded) as view only Filtering for the leagues available, I am going to start in Luxembourg as unemployed and to see what happens
  2. Welcome back everyone!! This is the new incarnation of the Youth Academy Challenge started by ri916 and continued by Braumiller before I picked it up, from now on rather than have a thread every year I think we'll just have an overall youth challenge thread so that people that might still be playing an older version can still record their progress and get involved with the chat. The Aim To win your chosen countries' top division and win the Champions League of your continent with a previously unplayable club using only your academy as a way of acquiring new players - this mean No Transfers of any kind. No buying back former players. Even on a free. No loans not even as part of a deal to sell your player. The Available Countries Previously any Country in Europe is eligible as long as you can get a previously unplayable side promoted from Holidaying, however from now on we're happy to extended it to the rest of the world as well as long as the team meets the criteria of being previously unplayable. The Reset Dates (Dates will appear when they have been confirmed for FM19 and if the country you pick isn't listed below just let me know the reset date and I'll add it) Argentina - July 15th Austria - June 14th Belarus Belgium - June 30th (but save on 6th April as that's when the playoffs are) Brazil - Jan 2nd Croatia - Czech Republic - June 30th Denmark - England - June 25 Finland - November 24th France - June 20th Germany - June 20th Holland - July 6th 2020 Iceland - Italy - June 30th Northern Ireland - Norway - Poland - June 20th Portugal - Romania - June 30th Russia - Scotland - 5th May for the playoffs Serbia - Slovenia - June 30th South Africa - July 15th Spain - Sweden - Switzerland - Turkey - June 20th Wales - Database Settings Mandatory Only load the Nation you’re managing in Database size can be small, medium or large Advanced Options have to be as shown here --> Optional Any additional settings in the ‘Advanced Database Setup’ – Due to us not being allowed to buy players, adding extra players just adds to the realism of your game and potentially slightly increases difficulty. NOTE – It is highly recommended you add the highest unplayable leagues for your country, as this will help make sure the promoted teams (you will be taking control of) have players. As an example, this is what I loaded for England - Players from Top Clubs in Europe is also recommended Also from now on I will allow people to load more than 1 league in their starting database to add a bit more immersion into their saves. You don't have to add any more than the country you are playing in (my laptop is awful so I most likely won't be) but the option is there for people that want to. Steps When Getting Started Add yourself as an unemployed manager. Call him holiday man if you want. Go on holiday until the reset date of your nation or the day before if you’re planning on reloading. Retire the manager Add a new manager with your chosen nationality and the lowest possible reputation and qualifications Choose the newly promoted club of your choice Rules for the Challenge No loans or transfers in are allowed but you can sell and loan players out. If you are sacked, sorry, you have to start again. No save game editors are allowed. Only cosmetic database edits are allowed. (Team/competition names/logos) No international management until completion of challenge. Signing backroom staff is allowed. Signing players on trial or signing grey players isn't allowed. Rules for this Thread Player naming is allowed. General discussion on tactics is allowed, although people should not refer to downloaded tactics. They are not banned, but I would expect the majority of people to avoid them. Screenshots for anything are encouraged but please post links to your pictures, don't post them as images as it makes the pages slower to load. When you join the challenge, could you post a screenshot of your manager's profile on the league reset date. Progress of your club should be documented using this thread. The beauty of these challenge threads is to share your story and to read others. Please keep us updated, even if you are not performing as you may wish. Season Update Youth Candidates All Tagged Players Attribute page Transfers (to prove that you haven’t signed any players) Squad League Table Anything else is optional.  Also, some people like to nickname/tag their best players from each youth intake in chronological order. For example, you could nickname your best player in the intake in season 1 as *their name* YP01a, and so on. But this is not compulsory if you don't wish to. I have copied and pasted last years starting post to get the ball rolling, I will update with necessary information as we get going (let me know dates for leagues so I can add them) Good luck to all
  3. Would love to see attributes to be masked or even better to have “textual description” by the scouts. As the grades and graphic can lead to be something that is decisive for selecting players. With this the scouts and scouting would be useful. Like it is now i’m completely ignoring what they are saying and only using the “scouting for hidden attributes” Would be great to get textual description of the grades for example if the grade is in certain range (pace from 16-20 can be given as the super fast player) or (finishing 10-15 as the good finisher with some improvement to be done) with this you would pay much more importance to current form or the scouting report... to see if the player is worth including in first team or worth investing in. Im often selecting the players based on the grades (17 finishing is light years away from 15 finishing - - - i just cant help myself) Also for youth players would be great for first year just to get short report why are they promoted from the academy... and what the head of youth dev think what could be improved or something... could be great if we can have these reports from head of youths to see what we can expect from the youth academy and not just to realize what we got on a certain date. TOTAL attributes masking could be feature that you can chose on the start of the game and the youth academy should be something included as you can track it whole year and play around it.
  4. Why do my u23 and u18s train with the first team
  5. It takes time for me finding the right save - I'm quite sure I'm not alone on with that - I find a plain and bland playthrough /Road to Glory quite boring, therefore I try to implement some sort of a policy / idea or do a challenge when I load up a new save. We have our classics Homegrown only, Youth Academy Challenge, SAF challenge, Pentagon Challenge & DOF challenge etc. Free only challenge, whatever you wanna call it, essentially you can't spend any transfer or loan fees, it should always be "0" in the left corner on the transfer history screen, simples. This isn't any new innovative FM challenge that has never seen it's lights before, this is how arguably 9/10 Non-League saves works in the first few seasons, you got no really other choice there. What should I do with all the money in the coffers? Upgrade your facilities and spend it on scouting. Am I allowed to spend money staff? Nope Minor tip, DON'T buy stadiums instead build a new one if possible cause it's helluva expensive buying a stadium. Well if my profile hasn't already given it away already but I'll start the save with a second division side ending their name with an "A" Stay tuned...
  6. What are some of your tried and true strategies for getting the best out of very high potential players. I want examples from people's past experiences and not just opinions please. I have a few really good young players in my save who have developed very well, but seem to not be growing anymore in attributes i want them to grow further in. I know they still have some growth left in them and i'm currently seeing them progress in attributes that arent very meaningful for their positions, like long throws for a forward. Is it better for me to use the remaining potential to train them for new positions ? Has it worked out great for anyone here ? Thank you
  7. Introduction: I’ve been playing football manager since 2014 version and long-time following this forum. I finally decided to dip my feet in writing a series following my first long-term save in FM 2019. I plan to start a somewhat open discussion of Dynamo Kiev club and my tactics. I intend to post regular updates on my squad and results as well as welcome feedback on how to improve my tactics and training. You can follow the story at the site to which I contribute: https://dictatethegame.com/ I decided to start this save while still in beta for two main reasons. The tactic I intend to try out is not one relying on breaking the current game engine to overachieve but rather on tried and true concepts that would hopefully be applicable to any version of the game. So no 3 strikers nor strikerless tactics. Secondly, I intend to do it with a club that is not from the top 5 leagues. I noticed in the last couple of FMs that the attribute changes between beta and the first patch could be drastic in players in Premiership, Bundesliga or the other “big” leagues. For obvious reason those leagues are more thoroughly scouted. For that reason I reserve those kinds of big saves for later in the year, once I tested out my tactic with a less known side. This year I chose Dynamo Kiev. What attracted me to this club can also be viewed as the 3 Pillars of my 5 Year Plan: 1) Youth Development, 2) Domestic and Continental Success and 3) Implementing Hard Pressing Tactical System inspired by Valeriy Lobanovsky I hail from Ukraine myself so naturally I always followed clubs from this nation. My all-time favourite player growing up was Andriy Shevchenko. One of my earliest footballing memories was watching Dynamo Kiev’s systematic dismantling of Barcelona’s defense in Nov 1998 Champion’s league. Sheva scored 3 goals in that match. Dynamo went on to beat Barcelona 7 to 0 in aggregate. He was part of an elite class, all nurtured at same time by the club. Players such as Oleh Luzhny (later won the Premier League with Arsenal), Serhiy Rebrov (totaling 75 appearances for Ukraine) are just a few examples of the “Dynamo effect” – taking local youngsters and molding them into superstars through hard work and intense fitness conditioning. So to reflect this objective will be to develop a class of homegrown players over the first 5 intakes and then to integrate them into my first team over the following 5 seasons. So by 2028-2029 to have only youth academy products in the 22 player squad. On my way there I’m hoping to also have a positive effect on Ukraine’s National Team and become the foremost farm team for the National Team squads. Success in 1998 Champion’s League marked the revival of the club’s fortunes in late 90s when the manager Valeriy Lobanovsky took over for the second time. In total, he spent 3 decades with the club and its best years were undeniably with him. Becoming the fixture in Champions League and winning numerous domestic trophies were all part of this success. Lobanovsky relied on his signature hard pressing, direct style of play (what some might think of as Geggenpressing today). After dominating Ukrainian League from late 90s to early 2000s, Dynamo has had a bit of a decline due to the meteoric rise of its main rival Shakhtar Donetsk in late 2000s. In the last decade, Shakhtar has won 7 domestic titles in comparison to Dynamo’s 3. This is something that I intend to change, aiming for getting at least 4 titles in 5 seasons. Also Dynamo has not won a major continental trophy since 1985 (UEFA Cup Winner’s Cup) which I also intend to change by winning at least one continental trophy during my first 5 seasons with the club My final objective is developing a Lobanovsky style Pressing Tactic that is built around the player’s hard work, relentless physicality, stamina and disciplined selfless teamwork. By hitting my domestic and continental goals on time, I will know whether this tactical goal was achieved. As you might guess the mold of my ideal player will also be defined by this system (but more on this in future posts) Next: A little context on the Lobanovsky system
  8. When I started this game, I chose a team in Chile, Antofagasta. Despite them barely having any coaches, no head of youth development, a sparse youth program, I had 2 absolute studs. One was pried away from me after 2 seasons for millions, the other has been my starting GK for 8 seasons. Not one time since have I ever had a prospect that had star potential past 3 and I've only had a couple 3s. I have a wealthy youth program, great head of youth development and nada. Every year I have to go and buy my competitors more promising youth prospects in order to have kids to grow into starters as I release all of my players when they hit 20. In previous versions of the game, I would, about every other year, have at least one kid that my coaches would tell me had high level potential. I get none of those messages now. Every season a new batch of losers.
  9. Welcome to the spa town of Buxton, famous for cheap bottled water and not so famous for their football club. The bucks have been in existence since 1877, and play at Silverlands. It has a capacity of 4000, with 490 seats (some of which were salvaged from Maine Road, once home to Man City.) The squad is average, but most of the talent is on the older end of the spectrum. My backup keeper started the file by hanging up his boots before a ball was kicked! He is now our scout. There is one thing Buxton are unbeatable at: the highest ground, sitting over 1000ft above sea level. This will be a youth academy only challenge, and I will, for once, be making my own tactic. I will also, where possible, promote staff from within the club. Manager is Sunday League reputation, no badges. I have simmed one season to get them promoted! Next update: Mid-season, squad analysis and tactics. Aim for the season: Survival. Fa Cup run.
  10. Pretiumque et Causa Laboris "The Prize and the Cause of Our Labour" A little break from my Coventry City / Journeyman career, I have decided that it's time for a youth only save and decided to take over at Burnley. One of the reasons I chose them was due to the European qualification last season, but also the fact that a club of Burnley's stature may struggle to bring in top quality youth. Their location in the North West is already a hive for footballing activity, with the likes of Manchester United and City just to the south, Liverpool and Everton to the south west, and Blackburn just down the road. I have never played as Burnley before, so that adds to the challenge as it's a club I have no affinity with and know little about. An initial look at the facilities shows: Excellent training facilities Excellent data analysis facilities Great Youth facilities (Youth Level 2) Adequate Junior Coaching Above average Youth Recruitment Our immediate focus will be to improve the Junior Coaching and Youth Recruitment, whilst also improving the coaching staff to ensure they are all geared to work with youngsters. We also have a very early start in the Europa League qualifiers, so pre-season will be very different to managing in the lower leagues. First transfer window is disabled as per usual, but it means we've got three months to assess the squad and see where we can cut some costs and try to bring some cash in to afford developing the youngsters. I already have a fair assumption of those who can make way, with Jonathan Walters, Stephen Ward, Nahki Wells, Phil Bardsley and Peter Crouch currently picking up nearly £130k per week in wages. All of them are out of contract in the summer, and all will be made available at the earliest opportunity. Whilst I would love to cut the deadwood further, with very little coming through the youth ranks at the start of the game, I need to be sensible as relegation from the Premier League would be exceedingly costly. Thanks for reading so far, will update monthly with screenshots!
  11. Apologies if this has been asked before, but if I have a 16 year old with decent potential, would moving him to the first team but leaving him available for the under 18s have any effect on him? As in would it improve him more/quicker training with the first team than it would leaving him in the under 18s?
  12. Hi, I need a little help trying to figure out what just happened in my recent January transfer window with my Bastia save This is Robin Loison-Roux. He was part of my youth intake as a 14 year old. He was on a youth contract, In late December I offered a hot prospect contract, but he never signed. Starting in January, he had about 30 different offers made for him. I rejected them all. This was Les Verts last offer for Roux, as you can see, I rejected it. Literally, six hour later: You can see the rejection at 1246 on the bottom left. I never accepted this offer. I never saw it made My board did not accept it, the inbox on the left has all the communication that happened between the rejection and him leaving. So, in short: Thanks for the help, Jellico
  13. How do you find wonderkids ive tried searching and they just say like young striker
  14. I’ve just got a player on loan for a season with the option to buy for £12 million. However, he’s not convinced to join the club on a permanent basis. Can he change his mind to join the club permanently once the loan ends/or in the winter transfer window? Is there any way he can be convinced to join? Thank you!
  15. Welcome back everyone!! This is the 2018 incarnation of the Youth Academy Challenge started by ri916 and continued last year by Braumiller The Aim To win your chosen countries' top division and win the Champions League with a previously unplayable club using only your academy as a way of acquiring new players. The Available Countries Previously any Country in Europe is eligible as long as you can get a previously unplayable side promoted from Holidaying, however for this version we're happy to extended it to the rest of the world as well as long as the team meets the criteria of being previously unplayable. The Reset Dates (Dates will appear when they have been confirmed for FM18) Argentina - July 14th Austria - June 14th Belarus Belgium Brazil - January 2nd Croatia Czech Republic Denmark - June 30th (but save a couple weeks before to reload teams as seems lower leagues end earlier) England - June 25th Finland France - June 20th Germany - June 19th Holland - July 7th 2019 (no relegation season 1) Iceland Italy - June 30th Northern Ireland - June 24th Norway - January 13th Portugal Russia Scotland - June 25th (but save on April 28th as that is when where they decide who is in the play off games) Serbia - June 16th Spain - July 10th Sweden - December 16th Switzerland Turkey Wales - June 25th Database Settings Mandatory Only load the Nation you’re managing in Database size can be small, medium or large Advanced Options have to be as shown here --> Optional Any additional settings in the ‘Advanced Database Setup’ – Due to us not being allowed to buy players, adding extra players just adds to the realism of your game and potentially slightly increases difficulty. NOTE – It is highly recommended you add the highest unplayable leagues for your country, as this will help make sure the promoted teams (you will be taking control of) have players. As an example, this is what I loaded for England - Players from Top Clubs in Europe is also recommended Steps When Getting Started Add yourself as an unemployed manager. Call him holiday man if you want. Go on holiday until the reset date of your nation or the day before if you’re planning on reloading. Retire the manager Add a new manager with your chosen nationality and the lowest possible reputation and qualifications Choose the newly promoted club of your choice Rules for the Challenge No loans or transfers in are allowed but you can sell and loan players out. If you are sacked, sorry, you have to start again. No save game editors are allowed. Only cosmetic database edits are allowed. (Team/competition names/logos) No international management until completion of challenge. Signing backroom staff is allowed. Signing players on trial or signing grey players isn't allowed. Rules for this Thread Player naming is allowed. General discussion on tactics is allowed, although people should not refer to downloaded tactics. They are not banned, but I would expect the majority of people to avoid them. Screenshots for anything are encouraged but please post links to your pictures, don't post them as images as it makes the pages slower to load. When you join the challenge, could you post a screenshot of your manager's profile on the league reset date. Progress of your club should be documented using this thread. The beauty of these challenge threads is to share your story and to read others. Please keep us updated, even if you are not performing as you may wish. Season Update Youth Candidates All Tagged Players Attribute page Transfers (to prove that you haven’t signed any players) Squad League Table Anything else is optional. Also, some people like to nickname/tag their best players from each youth intake in chronological order. For example, you could nickname your best player in the intake in season 1 as *their name* YP01a, and so on. But this is not compulsory if you don't wish to. I have copied and pasted last years starting post to get the ball rolling, I will update with necessary information as we get going (let me know dates for leagues so I can add them) Good luck to all!
  16. A youth player who's just come through the Youth Intake has for his Short-Term Plans: "Wants to break into the first team". Except, in Germany, he can't play until the season he turns 17, so for eighteen months or so.
  17. York City, Premier league, in Europe, Extensive Youth Recruitment, Exceptional Junior Coaching, Excellent Youth Facilities, Huw Jennings Resolute HOYD, Under 18 Manager, Assistant, 2 coaches, 2 Lower League Youth Intake Affiliates Currently Spawning 1/2 to 1 1/2⭐️ ability max And Spawning 1/2 to 4 ⭐️ potential Reloading on intake day to test it. Should I not be yielding any ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ current ability? Like surely the boxes I’ve ticked I should have a desirable intake after 15-20 reloads?
  18. -I cannot offer a contract to fresh youth intakes from other clubs via "approach to sign". I declared interest on them and some of them told that it would be a dream to play for my team. I made a bid for them that got accepted but noone wants to negotiate with me. I have uploaded a few screenshots. I have posted it again, a month ago but noone replied to my issue.
  19. I am playing FM2011 at the moment and there i saw that one of the clubs has an amateur feeder club with which it has a long term partnership which means it gets the best youth players from that amateur clubs. In real life alot of football clubs also have partnerships like this. What i really would like to see is that you can form longtermpartnerships like this with local amateur clubs. I like to play long term youth challenge games so it would be really nice when you can expand your range of youth players coming in like this. So for instance im playing with Cork City at the moment and when i form a long term partnership with a club from Dublin you should see the following year at least 1 or 2 youth players coming trough from Dublin.
  20. I would really love to be able to see my youth team's trophy under the "club" page. perhaps as a seperate page. with so much emphasis as you CAN put on youth and also because some clubs has it as a backbone in their identity (man utd, ajax, barcelona etc.) it would be cool to be able to show more clearly that you have an emphasis on this by having the trophy cabinet for them
  21. Although you can see the squad depth and future talents coming through via the squad depth screen and selecting the u23s and u18s, i feel this is messy Instead there should be a table showing current first team players and then future players based on age ranges or squad status, all ranked on potential ability therefore you have an easy and really simple way to identify the future talents coming through in your club and where this sits within your long term planning of squad composition. See attached for very rough example Any thoughts?
  22. At the start of the game I just delagated this to someone else as there was a lot going on. But now I want to revert control back to me but I can't see how? The drop down menu is greyed out and unselectable now. Any help would be appreciated.
  23. I'd like to reduce my youth system, to save resources. I wonder what happens if I move all U18 into U20 and fire all U18 staff and deadwood players. Has anyone tried this, or can share some thoughts on why this is a good or bad idea? Thanks.
  24. Hi all, For a long time, I've wanted to make Jamaica a consistent world cup participant on football manager. In the past I've achieved this by improving the domestic league and improving the clubs, youth recruitment and facilities through the editor, so that a few years down the line we get pretty decent regens (one of them becoming a key player at Barcelona xD). However, in FM19 I'd like to do this without the use of the editor (though, I will have to use it to add the Jamaican domestic league as a playable league). My plan is to manage 2/3 clubs in Jamaica, and improve the youth facilities, recruitment and coaching so that we get a good number of decent regens coming through each year. I suppose my question is; has anybody got experience of doing something similar (for example the classic San Marino challenge!) and if you have, how long did it take to see a "return on investment"? Any tips/stories would be appreciated!! Peace
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