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  1. It ended 2-2, which to me is a great result when you are Palace playing against the Mighty Reds with the best attacking trio in the world (Salah - Firmino - Mane), especially given that we had to play without our leading centre back Sakho due to an injury. We were leading twice, and both times Salah managed to equalize. This guy is simply incredible. He was everywhere across the pitch, always looking for space and making himself available for a pass. and it was clear that sooner or later he was going to put it into the back of the net somehow despite our really good and well-organized team defending. And he scored both goals virtually in the same way and from very similar positions, as you can see in this screenshot: If you look at the Match Stats, you could get an impression that they completely dominated the game, but in this case the stats are somewhat misleading, as I watched the whole match (as I regularly do), so you can trust me If you look better, you'll see they created just one CCC more than we did (3/2), and these were all created while they were desperately trying to equalize. They had a lot more shots overall, but quite a few were either from distance or blocked by my players. And even though I intentionally gave possession over to them, they did not have as much of it as one would have assumed (56/44). And finally, here is the strikerless 4213 which I used as the starting tactic that brought me a 1-0 lead. Later on, when we took the lead, I anticipated they were going to attack us like crazy, so I was making occasional tweaks to the tactic in order to better adapt it to the situation, and at some point even changed the formation to a regular 4-2-1-3 Wide.
  2. Have always been a fan of striker-less tactics but I’ve never been able to implement it effectively in any of the previous FM releases until now.This years game engine allows the tactic to function like how I’ve always wanted this tactic to. My aims for how the team/tactic is to operate are: Positive, proactive football Complete footballers with strong technical ability, intelligence and fitness Attacking & defending as a team Intelligence & creativity Fluidity & movement Possession PLAYER ROLES: Inverted Wing Backs – These guys will get forward to provide numbers in central midfield. This allows the two CM's to get forward without having to worry about the space they leave behind. Decent dribbling ability is important and high stamina and work rate will also increase their effectiveness. UPDATE- I've found changing the wing-backs into inverted wing-backs improves all round attacking and defensive play Ball Playing Defenders - There's a regular center back in both DCR and DCL positions. Both should be quick so he can recover in case an attacker breaks the offside trap. i prefer BPD so they pass out from the back and keep possession. Central Midfielder x 2 (right and left) - They play a triple role. Firstly providing defensive cover on the flank in front of their wing back, ensuring the opposition's wide man doesn't get an easy ride. Secondly, getting forward to score and assist and thirdly, making decoy runs to take a defender out of the game, thus freeing up space for a team mate. Will work relentlessly to help the team win the ball back so a high work rate is very important. From an attacking perspective, they'll be getting into goal-scoring positions so good finishing and composure will also be helpful. Decent long shot ability for your both your CM's will net your team many bonus goals throughout the course of a season. Shadow Striker – Will be the main striker/goal getter and get on the end of attacking plays so needs decent finishing, off the ball, vision and composure. Preferably, he should be quick as he'll regularly be played through on goal and his pace will allow him to get free of his marker and get a 'one on one' with the keeper. If he's not quick then make sure he makes up for the lack of pace by being creative instead so high passing and vision will then be vital. Of the three, the two side AP's must have exceptional creativity and vision. NB: Considering the three in the AM position are meant to carry the goal scoring burden, they MUST have very good finishing / speed attributes as well as high creative attributes. Strikers who can play also as AM's and vise versa are vital eg. Dybala, Martial, Bernardo Silva (not a striker), Griezmann etc. Opposition Instruction: I never set any opposition Instructions and training can be done according to your preferences. Screenshots of results, transfer movements, cups won are found below. Let me know how you get on with the tactic in your saves. Feedback is welcome. TACTIC: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxXl8X6nxWFwUzd4NVhyZ3k1Y2M
  3. So as the title says I might use your help to make the tactic I'm trying to create better. I must say at the start that I'm getting a pretty decent results, but obviously I'm not entirely happy about the tactic. It's pretty stable at the back, I'm not loosing too many goals. Three attacking players are pressing the opposition defence nicely - as intended. The main issue I have though is not being creative enough while attacking. I average like 10 shots a match. That's way too low Most of the shots are from the long range and the attacking play is really not exciting at all. The AMC position is rated around 6.3 every match and feels pretty useless no matter what role I'm setting. These are the only player instructions I use except for the ball distribution for the GK. So I need help to improve the attacking phase. Side note: I wouldn't like to change Mukendi's and Dior's role and position. Those guys are club grown players and I wanted to create a tactic system that evolves around them. Any advice is very much appreciated!
  4. Hey guys, I'd like some advice on my Liverpool 4-4-2 diamond tactic. Let me explain, after winning the Premier League on my first year in charge with a 4-3-3 based on high intensity press, overlapping wing backs and a quick build-up from the back with high-intensity short passes about the same instructions that you can see below). But summer arrived, with its surprises, the biggest one was a 120 million euros fee for Coutinho, which was good on the previous season but not as much as expected, with 7 goals and 7 assists in 32 premier league games. I couldn't refuse it, but I lost one of my key players. I have to say that Mane (which was playing a classic winger role) was out for injury for about 8 months, so my 2 wingers where out. As I wanted some change I tried a strikerless 4-4-2 that you can see below, inspired from a tactic I saw on the internet, but I changed some roles and instructions. I recruited Alli and Van Dijk for the 1st team. Don't pay attention to the front line, it's usually Firmino on the left, Alli on the right and Lallana in the middle. I think roles haven't the same abreviations than in French so a quick recap: GK-D WB-S CB-D CB-D WB-S Regista-S BWM-S B2B-S SS-A AM-S SS-A I change the regista for a BWM-S and the BWM for a DLP-S when playing against a team having an MOC. And I have those team instructions, I hope you can understand even if it's in French... But after some terrific games in pre-season, I'm struggling since the beginning of the championship. I know teams need time to get used to tactics but they are perfectly used to it and they struggle a lot. Could you tell me what you think about it? Is it well balanced? I still struggle a lot to create my own tactics, but I keep reading and learning in order to improve. Any comment is welcome, thanks! I've been reading articles on these forums for so long, I'm very happy to be a part of it now!
  5. I posted a tactical update in my AEK career update thread but thought I would post a copy here to try to elicit some discussion about my tactics I use with AEK Athens. Tactical Analysis: Controlling the possession. Counter-attacking at pace. Creating Clear Cut Chances. I manage AEK Athens in the Greek Superleague OPAP. I am in the second season and the bookies don't give me much of a chance for the league title. Which is fair, given the players at my disposal and the fact we finished quite far off Panathinaikos last season. Compared to teams in the Champions League and we're given even less of a chance. The football I want us to employ is very basic. Sit back when in possession, keeping the ball away from the opposition. Draw out the opposition and work the ball around them in the middle of the pitch using our numerical advantage afforded to us by having three midfielders and three attacking midfielders. I want slow, methodical passing at the back and between the midfield. When the opposition is forced to commit more players forwards in an attempt to win the ball back from us, this is when we need to catch them on the break using a range of quick passes, fluid movement and through-balls. In the Superleague, most teams play with two central defenders, so we play with three attacking midfielders to overload them. Most teams play with two central midfielders, so we play with three central midfielders to overload them. What this allows us to do it build up play easier through the middle by making use of the extra man. Because we have this extra man it will typically pull in an opposition wide player, and this is where my wing-backs come in handy. Their job is to exploit the vacant space out wide. Whilst we typically will only play through the middle, it is useful having that option when things get a little congested. It also helps to stretch the play when we need a bit more room to work in. Now for the hard part. Putting those thoughts into practice. Playing Style As discussed we are looking to create a playing style that: Has a defensive line that recycles possession, plays with a much lower tempo and draws out the opposition. Looks to exploit the numerical advantage we will have through the central areas with short passing. Affords the players a level of creativity to pick the right passes when unlocking the opposition defence. Not being afraid to play a risky pass to reap to the high rewards. Free flowing movement, creating multiple passing options for the man in possession. Surging runs forward to break offside traps and create one-on-one opportunities when the through ball finds its intended target. To achieve this, I employ a Very Fluid team shape along with the Control mentality. I want us moving up the pitch together when we're attacking and working as a unit together when defending, we're going to be somewhat exploitable on the wings so we need more bodies at the back to protect from the crosses. However, the central midfielders should move across to cover the wings. The Team Shape instructions look like this: Tempo: Much Lower. This allows us to retain possession of the ball, without using the retain possession instruction. I don't want to retain possession all over the pitch, for example, I don't want us keeping the ball in the final third of the pitch. I want us to keep the ball at the back and work the ball around the midfield, but when the opportunity comes for a quick break I want my players to have the freedom to play a risky ball to unlock the defence. Width: Fairly Narrow. Whilst we will inevitably be narrow by virtue of the player positions and roles, I want to enforce the mantra of keeping the ball flowing through the middle of the pitch The Defence instructions look like this: Use Tighter Marking. As I alluded to earlier, we have limited presence on the wings, so I use tighter marking to ensure my defenders stay with their man when the balls are crossed into the box. This is perhaps a contentious issue, given the effectiveness of crossing, but I like to believe the fluid team shape allows for more bodies in the box and this helps keep the opposition covered. I also want to suffocate opposition attacks and remove passing options for them to force them into making a mistake. Tackling: Stay on Feet. A simple one really. I don't want my players diving into challenges. If you're on your feet when winning the ball you can distribute it a lot quicker and maintain possession rather than sliding in and losing control of the second ball. The Build-Up instructions look like this: Passing: Play out of Defence, Exploit the Middle. With the low tempo encouraging possession football and the controlled build up I want to employ, it makes sense to ask the defence to play their way out from the back. Our fluid shape allows for options to do this. The Attack instructions look like this: Dribbling: Dribble Less. I don't want the team looking to retain possession of the ball in the final third by dribbling their way out of trouble. Rather I would prefer them to look to the extra man to make a pass to, or to fire a through ball over the defence to create a better opportunity. It is going to get pretty congested in the middle of the pitch and we don't have a Messi. So this instruction should make the players look for better options. Freedom of Movement: Roam from Positions. It could be argued that our fluid shape allows for more freedom of movement. But I want to emphasise that we should be looking to move freely and draw the opposition out of position. The players need to be available for each other in order that we don't concede possession cheaply. The formation, the player roles and their duties This is the team starting formation. The defence: Our back line is fairly standard. Either side of our central defenders are Wing-Backs on a support duty to offer some width when there the central areas become too congested. My Wing-Backs are afforded a lot of space out wide due to the opposition wide players being forced inwards to cover the extra man we will have against their central players. On a support duty the Wing-Backs contribute to the through balls to the Shadow Strikers further ahead. The are instructed to keep wide, cross more often and to try more risky passes. The central midfield: A very simple three across the middle. A Deep Lying Playmaker is flanked by two Central Midfielders. I don't have any specific instructions for my Playmaker. I think the Central Midfielder role is so undervalued. It is so dynamic and allows you to make changes to the role in game if you need to as you're not restricted to any instructions imposed by the role type. They will balance their attacking and defensive duties, and are perfect for pinging through-balls into my attacking midfielders. To promote this I ask them to play more direct and risky passes. They are also instructed to move into channels to try and stretch the play a little, and to mark tighter. The attacking midfield: The glue that holds our attacking play together is my Enganche. Vieirinha. With 6 assists in 8 games and a 91% passing accuracy, he is key to everything in the final third. He will sit in the middle, drawing out the opposition, creating space for my Shadow Strikers to burst through on goal. He doesn't have any specific instructions and neither do my Shadow Strikers. So, with an explanation of the setup, here is how all of that translates where it counts. On the pitch. The Result of our Play From the league so far we dominate possession, with over 61% on average each game. This is helped by completing 88% of passes, which is also the highest in the league. The quality of the chances we're creating also translated into our superior shooting accuracy. We have more shots on goal than any other team and the best accuracy, due to the quality of chances being created. It is not just the league where we are ahead, in the Champions League we have the highest passing accuracy of 87% and the highest average possession of over 63% during games. To give you an example of the chances we create, this is from my last match. where all but one of our attempts was from inside the box. A few most stats from the current season. Most of our goals are placed shots created by through-balls. Analysis of our Attacking play When we have the ball, we're setup as you would expect. A lot of our build up play is similar to the below. I have provided a couple of examples from the same match. Goal one. In this, my Deep Lying Playmaker (Enzo Zidane) starts with the ball in the middle of the pitch. My Wing-Backs begin to move forwards and my central midfielders are looking to come and offer options for the pass. In this build up, the Deep Lying Playmaker passes to his left to the Central Midfielder who forwards the ball to the Shadow Striker offering himself (shown by the red dotted lines) When the Shadow Striker receives the ball he is immediately looking for the Enganche. And whilst it doesn't look like the pass is possible here, the fluid movement of the team creates space for him to receive the ball. Once in possession of the ball, the Enganche is facing goal and looking for passing options forward. My Central Midfielders and Shadow Strikers are all running forwards ready for a splitting pass. Already the opposition Full-Backs are far too wide here, meaning their two Central Defenders are going to have to contend with four rushing midfielders. My Shadow Striker receives the ball to the right. The Full-Back has been drawn inside now, but the Central Defender doesn't have the positional sense to drop infield to cover the on rushing players. As you can see there's a huge gap that has opened up by our quick counter-attacking play. The opposition does not have time to get back into their defensive shape. The Shadow Striker plays a perfect ball into my on-rushing Central Midfielder for an easy goal. As you can see from the above, a lot of our play is predicated on slow build-up from the back, fast play in the final third to disrupt the opposition. Retaining possession wouldn't allow us to do this, but playing with a lower tempo and the roles we have allow for this type of play to flow. Here are some more examples from the same game, in which we created 27 chances, despite being away from home. Goal two. Here again, we have the ball deep, we've moved it quickly to the Enganche who has spotted the runs of my players and manages to play a lovely ball over the top for the Shadow Striker to run onto. We have a three against one overload here, and although the covering defender manages to get back, the simple pass is on to create an opportunity for the other Shadow Striker. Another simple goal. Goal three. And this time slightly deeper, my Central Midfielder who is instructed to play more direct and risky passes, picks out my Shadow Striker yet again. Another simple goal scored by being patient, keeping the ball and then being explosive when the exploitable opportunities arise. Analysis of our Defensive play It's a lot easier showing defensive shape and play with videos. Unfortunately, SI are yet to fix video exporting for mac. So, I will highlight with a picture and some GIFs to try and show you how we are always swarming the opposition, giving them no time or space on the ball. Restricting their options before forcing them into a mistake. Defensively the shape is quite standard as you'd expect from the formation and instructions. Our back four is easily covering the onrushing attacker. The midfield three create a second wall to force them to try and pass through and the attacking three block the ball moving backwards. The only option is the inside ball (which is this scenario was cut out by my player) or a long cross field ball to the spare two on the other side of the pitch. But the ball isn't there so we don't worry about that. From the below it is easier to show the players movement towards the man with the ball. Always staying on their feet waiting for the right opportunity to nip the ball away before launching into a quick counter attack. This starts from a throw, they manage to move the ball about quite nicely, but we remain patient and when the right time comes we step in, take the ball away and then we're launching into another devastating counter attack and create a new opportunity to score. In this example, their wide player has no space to move in-field and no passing options. He is forced out wide where he eventually crosses into the box for an easy catch for my keeper. Finally, the opposition works the ball wide again here, but their wide player has no options ahead. He has a choice to dribble wider or pass in-field. He managed to find a player to pass to, but our numerical advantage is too much and again we easily win the ball back from them. The Conclusion We've managed to create a system that floods the central areas of the pitch and overloads the opposition defence, making it hard for them to pick up a man each as it leaves a free man. Moving the ball about quickly with fluid movement allows us to disrupt the opposition system and exploit the free man. Defensively, we're a little vulnerable on the wings, but we pack the defence enough to cope with crosses and my central defenders. Thank you for reading. I'd welcome any comments, questions or corrections to anything I've written above. Oliver Jensen
  6. Hi there, As a long time player of Football Manager - this will be my first time in actually posting content within the community. Today, I will be sharing my formation and tactic set-up. You can always adapt it to your team however, there are some basic instructions needed to the set-up to actually do what it is meant to do. The idea of the set-up? It is a striker-less formation based on exploring space in behind opponents with great form of movement of players off-the-ball in the final third of an attack. This means having width and players with good decisions on the ball and off-the-ball. Thus players will require good attributes for off-the-ball, decisions, at-least some flair and vision. Passing is added bonus however, players have to have good pace and acceleration with some agility to get away from opponents. The idea was developed after watching this video: How does it work? I'd like to think my management style is more of micro-managing (more of a Johan Cruyff or a Pep than say an Ancelotti). I like to have my players do specific jobs on the pitch - I do not care if they are the have the most flair in the world. This means the team plays as a team and not as individuals. And this system works more like that - players will play as a structure team with less creative freedom but with the possibility to roam from their positions at all times which is key to unlocking defences in the final third. Also, the team will always press high-up the pitch and close down at all times. This means a team with high work rate and discipline - I AM NOT REFERRING TO GEN-GEN PRESSING WHERE PLAYERS RUN LIKE HEADLESS CHICKENS - BUT RATHER AS A COMPRESSED UNIT LIKE A SACCHI STYLE PRESS. No tight marking - but closing down. Also, the midfield creates diamonds and triangles all the time so the team has a lot of support component in it for recycling possession easily and transitioning. Components of the set-up? Formation >> all formations are good and bad - but I believe the 4-3-3 (or some form of it) is the most flexible form of formation aside from the 3-4-3 of course. I have no idea how to make a 3-4-3 work (I have tried it, it does not suit my style of play at all). As I mentioned this is a striker-less formation with a caveat - one discovery of mine was that I have a playmaker within the system that draws people towards himself and then releases players beyond the opponents defensive line for others to explore. Shape >> well, it will be structured or flexible. Never fluid. I HAVE FLUID SYSTEMS. Mentality >> Control or Flexible Players are all strata >> the positioning of the players will always be in such a way players are available at all strata aside from the sticking position. You will see. Defensive >> I always think of how to defend first - this does not mean sitting-off but HOW TO GET THE BALL BACK AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. Think Barcelona of 2011. Team Instructions >> Must haves: Close down much more, prevent short GK distribution, roam from positions, play out of defence. Maybe or maybe not: shorter passing, get stuck in, much higher defensive line, work ball into box (if you have very very good players with high attributes for decision making). Player Instructions >> GK - Sweeper keeper >> distribute to center backs Central Defenders >> none Wing Backs >> one on automatic (with dribble less and cross from byline) and one on attack (no instructions). Defensive Midfielder >> on defend or support but no instructions Central midfields >> one on automatic (with shoot less and more risky passes) and the other on attack with (move into channels and more risky passes). Inside forwards >> both to stay wide Attacking Midfielder >> on Advanced playmaker on attack. No instructions but you can include hold ball up if you want. There you go - please try out the tactic and let me know your feedback. You can also download the tactics here. ENJOY!!! Johan Set-up_7136991D-9DAB-40B4-9FD8-D3C75061778A.fmf
  7. Other tactics Guardians - Creating defensive fortitude Suicide Squad - Breaking scoring records ____________ Han Solo - Asymmetric strikes back Strikerless formations are a curious case in this year’s fm. They are trendy, efficient and surprisingly balanced, so easy to be picked up by fm newbie and become an instant favorite. Shadow strikers are universal Constanta in every variation you encounter with strikerless systems at the moment, so it became sort of cliché to pick SS role when coming up with own system. To leave my own stamp in strikerless ecosystem, I won’t pick this deadly efficient Shadow striker role, but put another rather interesting role on a main stage. And that will be Raumdeuter. The rest of the team has to be set-up to bring the most and best out of raumdeuters (from now on – Raum.). Early results Routine league games Disclaimer ( This isn't a plug and play tactic. As in my previous systems, its success relies on how well you stacked the specialist positions in these tactics). And please do not ask for downloadable file. If you are interested to try it yourself please invest your 10 min. and read the next post where all the relevant info is provided to successfully recreate it.
  8. Hi, I'm in my second season with Southapton and I need some help with my tactics which are posted below. Formation: 4-1-2-3-0 Wide Strikerless Team Shape: Very Fluid Mentality: Standard Roles and Duties: ------------------------------------------ IF(At)-------------SS-----------IF(Su) --------- DLP(Su)---CM(At)--------- ------------------A(De)----------------- FB(At)--CB(De)--CB(De)--FB(Su) ------------------SK(De)---------------- CM(R): CM-At -- PIs: More Risky Passes, Roam From Position, Move into Channels, Shoot Less Often AM(L): IF-At -- PIs: Stay Wider, Roam from Position AM(R): IF-Su -- PIs: Stay Wider, Roam from Position Team Instructions: Play out of defense, Shorter Passing, Retain Possession, Closing Down Much More, Fairly Wide, Tempo Higher Problems I'm facing: 1: Opposition wingers mark my full backs out of the game almost, making it very difficult to get them involved when we are in possession of ball. 2: In general, the man marking from opposition is very man oriented, not sure if it's lack of movement on the part of my team. 3: Struggle against any team that switches to attack mentality and starts pushing players forward and pressing high. 4: Sometimes, my CM (At) does not get forward, other times he does. Can't pinpoint why. Lack of space? AM(R) being IF? What I want is to control possession and tempo of the match and push the opposition deep into their half and press high to recover the ball early. Playing on standard because I want the team to recycle possession when there are no options to move forward and on Control there is a reluctance to play back passes.
  9. Hi all, First of all credit for this tactic goes to Veez. It has been on the FMBASE forum for some time but after lots of sharing, tweaking and feedback the final version is awesome. I have not changed the tactic but will give some detail about other bits that I do to help it. Teamtalks - Home Game - Assertive faith in you or More to come from you (whichever is available) Away Game - Calm faith in you or More to come from you (whichever is available) Halftime - Losing, drawing or 1 goal lead - Aggressive not good enough Winning by 2 or more goals - Assertive don't get complacent then if you have any red feedback use assertive not doing too badly. If you have ANY player still with red feedback then I sub them. During game I use individual teamtalks on Assertive calm down if a player is booked and Assertive demand more if we are not playing well. Tactics - I load all 3 slots with the same formation and then change the mentality so i Have 1 counter, 1 standard and 1 attacking. I start Home games on standard and away games on counter (unless I am a huge favorite and then I use standard) and then switch up to attacking if I need a goal and back to counter to protect a lead. NO OPPOSITION INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL Training - Pre-Season - Fitness on high and match tactics with slider fully on the left. During Season - I change the fitness to Ball Control and Average once the season starts but leave match tactics until fully fluid. Once fluid I switch it to Teamwork and the slider 2 notches from the left (30%) I also switch up the coaching staff once a month to keep it fresh. I set my training report to monthly and when I get it I warn the poor performers that they need to improve to stay at the club and I praise the good trainers with the line that I have noticed their good performances and wanted to tell them well done. Individual training I set to the position and role for the playing - This is VERY IMPORTANT for retraining strikers into the SS role. Players - Wide Midfielders are big goalscorers so get some that have high finishing if possible, quite a few IF or Wingers can be retrained to this role so don't be scared to do that if you don't have much money to spend. The Central midfielder also gets into the box a lot so good finishing and long shots are good for him. Like every formation this year the wingbacks are important so get the best you can afford here too. The Results - Some screenshots below and yes Newcastle should win the Championship but look at the goals scored and conceded and the points total! I have also done a video of some of the match highlights that show the tactic working and the type of goals you will see. Link to VEEZ post of the tactic with some further advice and notes. http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/share-download-fm-17-tactics/361450-4132-strikerless-mayhem-solid-defence.html Give it a try and let me know what you think! VZZ HB v666 Tweak_B89BBC05-AC20-4BCC-AE87-4B25A3FE144C.fmf
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