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FM19 All-European (Less England) Small Club to Big Club Challenge Introduction Welcome to a new season of the ‘Euro Nation’ Challenge, born out of the recent history of the highly successful Gundo’s Challenge and the Big Euro Nation Challenge that spawned out of it. After a steady start on FM18 hopefully with FM19 we will see a continuation of it's steady start and have another strong season. The premise of the challenge is simple, to start with a previously unplayable club and taking them all the way to a National Title and then on to winning the European Champions League. With a variety of leagues, styles of play, different rules, and many different locations for your clubs there can be a lot of variety throughout the thread, providing a great atmosphere and stories for our users to become immersed in. General Challenge Info Possible Countries · Austria · Belarus · Belgium · Bulgaria · Croatia · Czech Republic · Denmark · Finland · France · Germany · Greece · Holland * · Hungary · Iceland · Ireland * · Israel · Italy · N. Ireland · Norway · Poland · Portugal · Romania · Russia · Scotland · Serbia · Slovakia · Slovenia · Spain · Sweden · Switzerland · Turkey · Ukraine · Wales * Holiday for two seasons not one. The Rules A) Game Set-up 1) Load One Nation Only (All Available Divisions within your nation) 2) Your choice of Database Size (Large Recommended) 3) NO Edited Databases of any kind 4) Customising Database You can add players to the database up to a limit of 100,000 in total in order to add more depth to your save and also add more difficulty down the line. Suggested Adds Players from Top Clubs/Top Divisions (Europe or All Continents) - This increases the challenge at Continental Level Players Based in your Nation - This can add up to 50% more players to your game Players Based in your Region (Central Europe/East Europe/UK & Ireland) - This can add extra players likely to join your club There will be a file correcting the club/competition names, I will advise use of this. NO other additional customising is allowed. 5) Attribute Masking should be Enabled 6) Disable Ingame Editor (Please do this) 7) Optional Ticks Add Key Staff (This will give you a Scout, Physio & Ass Man by generating them if your club is without) Add Players in Playable Nations (This will ensure all clubs have a minimum number of players, generating them if needed) The extra levels of detail that you can change while in the game are up to you, as they shouldn't make a difference. B) Steps in the Game 1) Add an unemployed manager; you will not use this man to manage your club. I like "Unemployed Man or Holiday Man" 2) Go on holiday until the reset date of your chosen nation (Should take about an hour) TIP - Changing Detail Level to None will make it go faster. (Remember to change it back afterwards) TIP - Saving on the day before this date may give you a better choice of teams by reloading the game then going on holiday for one day, I would strongly recommend trying this. 3) Add a new manager - Use yourself, or a created character to help build a story line a) Personal Details - Your Choice b) Tracksuit vs. Trainer - Your Choice c) Past Experience lowest Possible (Generally Sunday League) d) Coaching Licenses lowest Possible (None) e) Other options are up to you TIP - If you add the language of your country of choice it will make it easier at the beginning TIP - Training now includes you at some level depending on your abilities. 4) Choose to take over any club which has been promoted to the bottom playable league of your nation. TIP - Easiest way in FM17 to see this is on the "Season Review" screen, showing the "Promoted Clubs" TIP - You can confirm your club by checking the Domestic History's page for not being at this level since start of game 5) Retire your unemployed manager. 6) Manage your club to National Title & European Champions League Victory 7) Completing the Challenge. C) Signing of Players 1) You must be able to scout them TIP - You don't actually have to scout them, just be able to TIP - You can check your scouting range on the Scouting page 2) Alternatively (If you can't scout them), you must bring them on a trial first 3) You are able to sign anyone sent to you via Agent Offer TIP - Make sure you screenshot the Agent offer 4) In later versions you can get your DoF to find players, he will bring in players not in Scouting Range, these are also allowed. TIP - Grab a screenshot of your DoF signing them D) Posting 1) Player naming is allowed. (This is a warning for those of you who do not wish to see this) 2) Discussion of tactics is allowed. (This is another warning for those of you who do not wish to see this) Expected Updates We have minimum expectations when it comes to a first up post and also in the end of season updates. The Bold pages are necessary for everyone; the others are some suggestions that will get others interested in your posts and following your club. All other screenshots are welcome and encouraged, but we please ask that the majority are posted as links, because lots of pictures can make the page very slow to load. First Post: Domestic Leagues History (Club) Profile (Manager) Overview (Club) Squad (Club) End of Season Updates: Transfers (Club) - This is so we can see the ins & outs League Table (Competition) Squad (Club) Information (Manager) Profile (Manager) Information (Club) Profile (Players) Progress of your club should be documented using this thread; we want to hear the story of your club all the way through. Please keep us updated, even if you are doing badly. If you title your end of season report in bold this makes it easier to identify. Everyone will be supportive, and really get into your game if you give more detail. E) Other 1. If you are Sacked 1. You can Restart from the beginning or; 2. Continue your game and pick a new club (Under Same Rules) at the end of the next season or; 3. Add another Euro League/Remove Current League, holiday a whole season and continue 1. You can still only have one nation running at a time 2. Once the league becomes active you MUST holiday a full season 3. The club must be one of those unplayable from the beginning 2. No Restrictions on Parent or Feeder Clubs 3. International Management allowed from FM14 forwards (But you cannot start as an International Manager) The use of any external utilities and editors (Such as Genie Scout or FMM) are prohibited. As of FM14 there are also unlockables, these are also prohibited, please don't use them. It would be appreciated if you also ticked the box at the start which prevents the use of the ingame editor. How to Post a Screenshot 1) While in FM, press the 'Prt Sc' button (usually next to F12 on your keyboard). 2) Open an image editing program such as Paint and paste the image 3) Save the file as a JPEG or PNG 4) Upload the image to an image hosting website such as Photobucket or Imageshack 5) Post the direct URL to the image here. Alternatively using ALT + F9 in game saves a screenshot to your user data folder. (You can also edit this in the shortcuts options) The Euro Nation Motivational I would like to thank all of you who choose to participate in this thread this year, and to wish everyone taking on this challenge the best of luck on a long and hard journey to managerial success! I have personally had a number of hugely enjoyable saves over the years, first in Gundos challenge and then latterly in the Big Euro Nation Challenge. The atmosphere and support these threads have historically offered is key in making the thread, and your saves more enjoyable as I can testify to. I and some of the other regulars of these threads are here to help for the new challengers and hope everybody that participates contributes considerably to the thread. There is nothing better than getting immersed not only in your own game but providing the encouragement to other people's attempts too. Remember we are all fighting the same battle - to defeat the AI (and uncover fabulous newgens!) - Therefore it goes without saying that any form of cheating will be severely chastised. Don't do it! I know that it is painful to lose a European Final or to lose the title on the final day (I have been there myself on more than one occasion) but eventual success down the line is all the sweeter for those defeats. Good luck to all the participants – Here’s to a successful (and enjoyable) version!!

Hi(again) to everyone in this beautifull forum..After Gibraltar,Liechtenstein,Lithuania and Malta my next managerial experience will be at Spain.Well not exactly at Spain but to a nation with many connections with them,Andorra! ANDORRA LA VELLA (ANDORRA) Andorra is a sovereign landlocked microstateon the Iberian Peninsula, in the eastern Pyrenees, bordered by France in the north and Spain in the south. Believed to have been created by Charlemagne, Andorra was ruled by the Count of Urgell until 988 when it was transferred to the Diocese of Urgell, and the present principality was formed by a charter in 1278. It is known as a principality as it is a diarchy headed by two Co-Princes: the Catholic Bishop of Urgell in Spain and the President of the Republic of France. is the capital of the Principality of Andorra. It is located high in the east Pyrenees, between France and Spain. It is also the name of the parish that surrounds the capital.Andorra la Vella is the capital of the Principality of Andorra. It is located high in the east Pyrenees, between France and Spain. It is also the name of the parish that surrounds the capital.Andorra la Vella (Catalan pronunciation: [ənˈdorə lə ˈβeʎə], Spanish: Andorra la Vieja, French: Andorre-la-Vieille) is the capital of the Principality of Andorra. It is located high in the east Pyrenees, between France and Spain. It is also the name of the parish that surrounds the capital..As of 2015, the city has a population of 22,886, and the urban area, which includes Escaldes-Engordany plus satellite villages, has over 40,000 inhabitants. NATION The Andorra national football team (Catalan: Selecció de futbol d'Andorra) represents Andorra in association football and is controlled by the Andorran Football Federation, the governing body for football in Andorra. The team has enjoyed very little success due to the Principality's tiny population, the fifth smallest of any UEFA country (only Liechtenstein, San Marino, Gibraltar and the Faroe Islands are smaller). *For first time i won't manage their ''senior'' national team but for a change i took Andorra's U21 team control,i think it will be interest.. ANDORRA FC PROFILE utbol Club Andorra is a football club based in Andorra la Vella, Andorra, established in 1942. They play in the Spanish football league system.Most of the Andorra national football team are typically selected from FC Andorra, which currently competes in the Primera Catalana at the 5th level of the Spanish football league system. Though the club is based in Andorra, they have competed in the Spanish league system since 1948. Segunda División B, the third tier, is the highest league that the club FACILITIES TROPHIES.................................................................................. COACH SETTINGS And the (long) journey starts..

FM18 All-European (Less England) Small Club to Big Club Challenge Introduction Welcome to a new chapter in the history of the ‘Euro Nation’ Challenge, born out of the recent history of the highly successful Gundo’s Challenge and the Big Euro Nation Challenge that spawned out of it. Originally set up as an alternative to the hugely successful Dafuges Challenge for FM06, Gundos Challenge offered an alternative for people who wanted to play in another European country. The Big Euro Nation Challenge followed for FM08 and, like Gundo’s Challenge, has had some fantastic stories over the years. These threads have always been hugely popular and successful thanks to those who played, and who still take part, in the challenges. Some of the stories are legendary, and hopefully more of these will be born in this, and future, versions of the game. The premise of the challenge is the same, and simple, to start with a previously unplayable club and taking them all the way to a National Title and then on to winning the European Champions League. With a variety of leagues, styles of play, different rules, and many different locations for your clubs there can be a lot of variety throughout the thread, providing a great atmosphere and stories for our users to become immersed in. General Challenge Info Possible Countries Austria Belarus Belgium Bulgaria Croatia Czech Republic Denmark Finland France - June 20th Germany Greece Holland * Hungary Iceland Ireland * Israel Italy - July 30th N. Ireland - 25th June Norway - January 13th Poland Portugal Romania Russia Scotland Serbia Slovakia Slovenia Spain - July 10th Sweden - December 15th Switzerland Turkey Ukraine Wales * Holiday for two seasons not one. League Reset Dates Austria - 13th June Belarus Belgium Bulgaria Croatia Czech Republic Denmark Finland France Germany Greece Holland * Hungary Iceland Ireland * Israel Italy N. Ireland Norway Poland Portugal Romania Russia Scotland Serbia Slovakia Slovenia Spain Sweden Switzerland Turkey Ukraine Wales The Rules A) Game Set-up 1) Load One Nation Only (All Available Divisions within your nation) 2) Your choice of Database Size (Large Recommended) 3) NO Edited Databases of any kind 4) Customising Database You can add players to the database up to a limit of 100,000 in total in order to add more depth to your save and also add more difficulty down the line. Suggested Adds Players from Top Clubs/Top Divisions (Europe or All Continents) - This increases the challenge at Continental Level Players Based in your Nation - This can add up to 50% more players to your game Players Based in your Region (Central Europe/East Europe/UK & Ireland) - This can add extra players likely to join your club There will be a file correcting the club/competition names, I will advise use of this. NO other additional customising is allowed. 5) Attribute Masking should be Enabled 6) Disable Ingame Editor (Please do this) 7) Optional Ticks Add Key Staff (This will give you a Scout, Physio & Ass Man by generating them if your club is without) Add Players in Playable Nations (This will ensure all clubs have a minimum number of players, generating them if needed) The extra levels of detail that you can change while in the game are up to you, as they shouldn't make a difference. B) Steps in the Game 1) Add an unemployed manager; you will not use this man to manage your club. I like "Unemployed Man or Holiday Man" 2) Go on holiday until the reset date of your chosen nation (Should take about an hour) TIP - Changing Detail Level to None will make it go faster. (Remember to change it back afterwards) TIP - Saving on the day before this date may give you a better choice of teams by reloading the game then going on holiday for one day, I would strongly recommend trying this. 3) Add a new manager - Use yourself, or a created character to help build a story line a) Personal Details - Your Choice b) Tracksuit vs. Trainer - Your Choice c) Past Experience lowest Possible (Generally Sunday League) d) Coaching Licenses lowest Possible (None) e) Other options are up to you TIP - If you add the language of your country of choice it will make it easier at the beginning TIP - Training now includes you at some level depending on your abilities. 4) Choose to take over any club which has been promoted to the bottom playable league of your nation. TIP - Easiest way in FM17 to see this is on the "Season Review" screen, showing the "Promoted Clubs" TIP - You can confirm your club by checking the Domestic History's page for not being at this level since start of game 5) Retire your unemployed manager. 6) Manage your club to National Title & European Champions League Victory 7) Completing the Challenge. C) Signing of Players 1) You must be able to scout them TIP - You don't actually have to scout them, just be able to TIP - You can check your scouting range on the Scouting page 2) Alternatively (If you can't scout them), you must bring them on a trial first 3) You are able to sign anyone sent to you via Agent Offer TIP - Make sure you screenshot the Agent offer 4) In later versions you can get your DoF to find players, he will bring in players not in Scouting Range, these are also allowed. TIP - Grab a screenshot of your DoF signing them D) Posting 1) Player naming is allowed. (This is a warning for those of you who do not wish to see this) 2) Discussion of tactics is allowed. (This is another warning for those of you who do not wish to see this) Expected Updates We have minimum expectations when it comes to a first up post and also in the end of season updates. The Bold pages are necessary for everyone; the others are some suggestions that will get others interested in your posts and following your club. All other screenshots are welcome and encouraged, but we please ask that the majority are posted as links, because lots of pictures can make the page very slow to load. First Post: Domestic Leagues History (Club) Profile (Manager) Overview (Club) Squad (Club) End of Season Updates: Transfers (Club) - This is so we can see the ins & outs League Table (Competition) Squad (Club) Information (Manager) Profile (Manager) Information (Club) Profile (Players) Progress of your club should be documented using this thread; we want to hear the story of your club all the way through. Please keep us updated, even if you are doing badly. If you title your end of season report in bold this makes it easier to identify. Everyone will be supportive, and really get into your game if you give more detail. E) Other 1. If you are Sacked 1. You can Restart from the beginning or; 2. Continue your game and pick a new club (Under Same Rules) at the end of the next season or; 3. Add another Euro League/Remove Current League, holiday a whole season and continue 1. You can still only have one nation running at a time 2. Once the league becomes active you MUST holiday a full season 3. The club must be one of those unplayable from the beginning 2. No Restrictions on Parent or Feeder Clubs 3. International Management allowed from FM14 forwards (But you cannot start as an International Manager) The use of any external utilities and editors (Such as Genie Scout or FMM) are prohibited. As of FM14 there are also unlockables, these are also prohibited, please don't use them. It would be appreciated if you also ticked the box at the start which prevents the use of the ingame editor. How to Post a Screenshot 1) While in FM, press the 'Prt Sc' button (usually next to F12 on your keyboard). 2) Open an image editing program such as Paint and paste the image 3) Save the file as a JPEG or PNG 4) Upload the image to an image hosting website such as Photobucket or Imageshack 5) Post the direct URL to the image here. Alternatively using ALT + F9 in game saves a screenshot to your user data folder. (You can also edit this in the shortcuts options) The Euro Nation Motivational I would like to thank all of you who choose to participate in this thread this year, and to wish everyone taking on this challenge the best of luck on a long and hard journey to managerial success! I have personally had a number of hugely enjoyable saves over the years, first in Gundos challenge and then latterly in the Big Euro Nation Challenge. The atmosphere and support these threads have historically offered is key in making the thread, and your saves more enjoyable as I can testify to. I and some of the other regulars of these threads are here to help for the new challengers and hope everybody that participates contributes considerably to the thread. There is nothing better than getting immersed not only in your own game but providing the encouragement to other people's attempts too. Remember we are all fighting the same battle - to defeat the AI (and uncover fabulous newgens!) - Therefore it goes without saying that any form of cheating will be severely chastised. Don't do it! I know that it is painful to lose a European Final or to lose the title on the final day (I have been there myself on more than one occasion) but eventual success down the line is all the sweeter for those defeats. Good luck to all the participants – Here’s to a successful (and enjoyable) version!!

Having spent time on the battlefield during the Spanish Civil War, it's fair to say Orwell could be correct in describing Sport as the modern alternative to war. Every nation has their team, every person has their nation... but what if your nation isn't an independent one and is only able to participate in unofficial friendlies? Tensions have risen recently regarding the proposed independence of Catalonia. Since the fight remains unsettled by the ballot, maybe it can be won by la pilota. This is the story of Catalunya's journey to World Dominance via the World of Football. In what has been seen as a sign of support for those fighting for Independence, Third Division Hospitalet have imposed a Catalan only rule, which is set to remain unbroken until Catalonia gain independence, though exceptions are set to be made for individuals who have attended academies and studied in the Catalan Regions. Former Barcelona and Ajax defender, Ologuer Presas, famed for traveling to a Spanish national team training camp to inform the coach that he did not want to play for the Spanish National Team has been appointed as their new manager. He is set to speak to the club hierarchy regarding what they believe to be towns and cities outside of recognized Catalunya that fall under the new club rules with some areas of France and Italy potentially being on the club's radar. At the beginning of their journey, Hospitalet boasted an impressive 9 Catalan eligible players [*], including two former Espanyol players; Cristian and Christian Alfonso. One of the club's original Catalan contingent also included former Barcelona B defender Dani Fernandez.

Spanish football leagues: 1.- Liga Santander 2.- Liga123 3.- Segunda División B 4.- Third Division Youth Leagues: 1.- Youth Honor Division of Spain Real and adequate promotion system to the regions of the Third Division groups. - - - 000 - - - Steam https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1562705045 Link https://www.fmsite.net/files/file/769-tercera-división-de-españa/ - - - 000 - - - -. For news: https://www.facebook.com/FMPreferente/ Se incluye en el sistema de ligas española la Tercera División. Se agradecen comentarios y aportaciones. Ligas de fútbol de España: 1.- Liga Santander 2.- Liga123 3.- Segunda División B 4.- Tercera División Ligas Juveniles: 1.- División de Honor Juvenil de España - - - 0 0 0 - - - Sistema de ascenso reales y adecuados a las regiones de los grupos de Tercera División. Se ha actualizado la base de datos de los equipos de la Tercera División eliminando errores.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisiones_Regionales_de_Fútbol

Not very Athletic Bilbao. Bilboka Athletic Kluba, (as they say in the land of Basque), is a professional football club in the Basque Region of Spain. They are known as "Los Leones" (The Lions), because their stadium was built near a church called San Memes (Saint Mammes). Mammes was an early Christian thrown to the lions by the Romans. Mammes somehow pacified the lions and was later made a saint. The club is one of 3 founding members of the Primera Division who have never been relegated from the top Division since it's inception in 1929, (the other 2 being Real Madrid and Barcelona). [Editor] Let's see about that shall we! The club is known for it's "cantera" policy of bringing young Basque players through the ranks, as well as recruiting players from other Basque clubs. Athletic's official policy is signing professional players native to or trained in football in the greater Basque Country, which includes Biscay, Gipuzkoa, Álava and Navarre (in Spain); and Labourd, Soule and Lower Navarre (in France). Since 1912, Athletic has played exclusively with players meeting its own criteria to be deemed as Basque, and has been one of the most successful teams in La Liga. This can be seen as a unique case in European football; it has gained Athletic both admirers and critics. The club has been praised for promoting home grown players and club loyalty. The Basque rule does not apply to coaching staff however, with several examples of non-Basque managers both from Spain and abroad having coached the first team. A little light reading to get you in the swing of all thing Athletic. Top goal-scorer. https://www.theguardian.com/football/these-football-times/2018/may/23/la-liga-top-scorer-pichichi-lionel-messi-rafael-moreno The saying that defines Athletic’s philosophy – “con cantera y afición, no hace falta importación” – translates as “with homegrown talent and local support, you don’t need for imports.” https://www.theguardian.com/football/copa90/2016/jan/15/athletic-club-bilbao-loyalty-spain-liga-basque Athletic Bilbao's methods provide lessons for Premier League clubs https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/10880323/athletic-bilbaos-methods-provide-lessons-for-premier-league-clubs While Bilbao might have a Basque-only philosophy, they are certainly not the only Basque club. Alaves, Eibar and Real Sociedad are other Basque clubs in la Liga, so it will be interesting to see how easily they part with their Basque home-grown youngsters if and when I come calling. In recent years, Bilbao have become unpopular with the other Basque clubs as a result of them offering financial inducements in order to entice Basque players away from other clubs, and I think you can expect more of that from me. The flip side of that however is that in recent years Bilbao have sold players for HUGE sums.

It's 2037 so let me catch you up to speed with this Spain side. After failing to get out of the Euros group stage with a highly technical team in 2034, I took over the Spanish National team with the aim of winning the World Cup two years later. We had squad filled with creative players, fast technical wingers and my overlooked star striker (from my club team Oxford). Tactically I set the team up as follows: --------------CFa---------- Ws-----------------------Ws -------CMa----CMs------ ------------DMd----------- IWBs--CBd--CBd--IWBs --------------GK------------- After winning the World Cup (really scraping through) with an ageing squad, it's time to look to the future and start planning initially for Euro 2038, ultimately the World Cup in 2040. The Squad Now: Defence At CB there are a lot of options with a range of profiles so can be flexible tactically here (high/deep line, back four/three). In Alex Quiroga we have a truly world class CB, who's fast, good in the air and mentally strong too. The fullback posistions are a problem areas for the team with little quality and depth. Hector Bellerin is still the only RB of quality and he'll be 35 by WC 2040. There are some young defense RBs and some DMs who have decent attribute profiles. Midfield As you would expect with a Spain squad, midfield is where we are stocked with talent. We have some technical, creative central midfielders and a couple with some finishing ability too. However it is out wide where our quality really lies. I don't know what Madird have put in their water but that city is pumping out winger after winger with quality. We are stocked with 4 world class wingers and some wonderkids too. Attack Upfront we have one world class option in Giron. Otherwise we have several what I like to call role players (one-trick ponies), who in the right role can be great but in the wrong one poor. So plenty of options if we want to partner Giron with a TM (for big/small partnership); or with a poacher (for creative/fast partnership). Key players include: Golden Oldies by WC 2040: Future stars: Plus about 4 more wingers. Tactical Options As a big team, I tend to try to get players inbetween the lines in a stable structure. For me this means in the attacking five, 2/3 supporting 3/2 respectively and again in the defensive five 2/3 ahead of 3 or 2 respectively. I'm not strictly wedded to a split 5 and 5 but what I want to achieve is a stable base to collect clearances, circulate possession and maintain pressure on the opposition. I've come up with 3 tactical ideas: 1) Stay the same: 433 It ain't broke so why fix it. The original tactic was based about getting the most out of my wingers and isolating them one-on-one with the fullback and getting my creative midfielders into advanced dangerous positions. It would look something like this by WC 2040: The idea behind this tactic as stated earlier is to get the wingers high and wide to isolate them up against the full backs. The central midfielders have to push up high aggressively to support the CF and the IWBs provide stability to the centre of the pitch when vacated by the CMs. (This ends up dynamically switching between 2323, 253 and 235 if that helps you imagine the movement) The advantage of this is I know this tactic will maximise the ability of my attacking players. The disadvantage is defensively, the fullbacks will struggle on the defensive transition. Space is left on the flanks and they are not that fast or strong to cover that ground. Also this tactic really requires a complete DM. A lot of the play goes through him so needs to be comfortable on the ball; but equally has a lot of defensive responsibility on the defensive transition. I'm not sure whether Barroso will be that player by 21 years of age. 2) Switch to 4231 The advantage here to the 433, is that it shares the defensive responsibility between the two CMs. This also enables the full backs to stay wide, reducing the recovery run distance and potentially stabilising the flanks a bit more. Against teams that fill the midfield or press high in a 4231 against the 433, I can go direct more easily as the ST or wingers are less likely to become isolated with the AM closer to support. The disadvantage is are again that the full backs are my weakest players and Gonzalez doesn't really have the physicality to be a maurading wing back to balance the RW. Also with more aggressive roles in the AM strata I'm also placing a greater defensive load on the remaining 6 players. Could the young full backs handle being isolated more often, I don't know. 3) Crap fullbacks, scrap them! If I don't have the full backs for the 433/4231 then perhaps I could go 3142. The idea behind this tactic is if the full backs are my weak links, maybe just pull my wingers back to wingback and add a player at both ends of the pitch. I need another CB to cover the extra space, and a striker is needed to keep my presence up front with the wingers pulled back. I also wanted to create something of the sort of movement for Giron to benefit from that can be seen in the second image, whilst getting a more clinical finisher in the team. The obvious advantage we have got rid of (literally) our weakest links. Additionally we get more attacking players into the pitch with a more clinical poacher-like finisher whilst retaining a solid 3-2 base. The weakness is clearly defensively down the wing with no quality defenders on the flank. Of course we could swap in a fullback in those positions for added security. By pulling the wingers back, should we press and risk leaving space behind them down the flanks or play a bit more reservedly using the pace and power out wide and the presence of the two strikers to get the ball forward more quickly against an unset defense. What next: I have two friendlies coming up against Morocco and Algeria which could be an opportunity to test out these ideas. Here's where I'd appreciate your thoughts on: What are your initial thoughts on these ideas How would you get the best out of this group of players, to spark some ideas before I come to a conclusion about how I'd like to proceed.

So I started playing as the manager of Hercules in the Segunda Division (Spanish 3rd Division) and on my 3rd year I promoted on the La Liga. My issue is that Hercules B (Hercules B team) is inactive. It has not promoted and still participates on the same Valenciana (or something) amateur (inactive) league as when I started. There is no B team manager and I cannot hire one (or any other staff) once when I offer someone the job I can't select a wage. The team is full of generated "grey" players and whenever I move someone in it he gains no match fitness (so that means he doesn't play). It really throws me off once when a player misses for a long time or is a new signing, there is no way I can increase his match fitness. So I have to take the risk and play him on an official match costing on my team's performance. Is there any way I can make it active and be able to use it?

Hi everyone, does anyone know whether it is possible to request an increase in the coaching budget for Spanish reserve/B teams? How do I do it if it is possible? If it isn't, why is it so? I currently manage Real Madrid and am trying to increase Real Madrid's coaches' maximum wages to attract better coaching talent as Real Madrid B has been promoted to the Second Division (Liga Adelante), but I can't seem to do so and this seems to be the case for other Spanish teams as well. It is my understanding that Spain has a unique system for reserve or B teams, which play in the same league system as their respective first teams, as opposed to a separate reserves league system such as a designated U23 league. So consequently clubs are treated as semi-affiliates in FM, which is understandable. However, given the extent that you can still micromanage the B team (hire/fire all staff, control training, deal with contract renewals, etc.), it makes no sense that you can't request increases to maximum staff wages. Any idea if I'm missing something? Is it a mistake/fault or is this a feature by design? Thanks in advance!

EMPTY TROPHY CABINET- OSASUNA Welcome to my first FM17 and FM in general save that I will be uploading to this forum. I have decided to begin with Osasuna or Atletico Pamplona as they are called in game. Now you may be wondering why this topic is called empty trophy cabinet and that is because Osasuna have never won a major cup in their time as a club. Don't get me wrong they have won a Segunda Division and a couple of Segunda B Division titles but they do not count as major trophies. My ambition with Osasuna is too make them in too a European powerhouse challenging Real and Barca and going deep into Europe and filling up that trophy cabinet as we go. Osasuna has recently been promoted back to La Liga so we are facing a relegation battle in the first season, however the goal the board have set me is mid-table and I plan to get that and start challenging for European Cups in a couple of years time. Although it is not a youth save I will be trying to bring in young players and having young players come into the first team from the youth team. I hope you enjoy this series and if you have any queries just post them and I will answer

Hi all, After some time away from the game, as real life took over for a bit, I began to think about what sort of ideas I could come up with for my next career update. I've never managed in a major nation on any FM, so I thought I would give that a try this time around. I settled on Spain, and began formulating my plan. It is 2017, and Rafael Nadal, 15 time Grand Slam tennis champion and the undisputed King of Clay, has called a surprise press conference after being knocked out early at Wimbledon again. There is major speculation as to what it could be about. "Thank you very coming today, I really appreciate it no? Uh as most of you know, for me, is getting harder to play at my best level of tennis no, with those injuries for my knees, and feet, is very difficult no. I talk with my coach and my team and uh, I think now is right time to walk away from the sport no. I'm very grateful for everything that tennis has done for me and I'll never forget the support of the fans everywhere, for me is most important thing no, to never forget that. Reporter: "So what's next for Rafael Nadal, are you still going to be involved in tennis in any way? "Well I love tennis no, is impossible for me to not be involved, I still have my academy in Mallorca so my coach Toni will be taking care of that, but now I have major plans for a different sport. Football is very important part for me and my family no, my uncle had a successful career and it is because of him that I made this decision. I have become major shareholder for my local club, C.E. Manacor and have decided to put most of my efforts into making them as successful as possible no. I have already upgraded the training and youth facilities, as the team will be sharing with my tennis academy which also has football training grounds. I have decided to start getting some qualifications to no, I have had experience in playing football, but is very different from coaching no. So I'm here to announce myself as the new manager of Manacor, but until I get the necessary qualifications most of the on field decision will be made by my uncle, Miguel Angel Nadal, who has accepted my offer to become the Assistant Manager of Manacor. Thank you very much for your time. And with that bombshell, the Spanish Bull departs a rectangular grass court for the final time and sets off back to Spain for a game played on a bigger rectangular grass 'court'. Basically I made an attempt to incorporate one of my favourite sports into Football Manager, and with a little football relevance as well. Rafael was supposedly quite the footballer when he was younger, representing his island at U14 level. His uncle is also considered one of the best Spanish defenders of all time, representing them at 3 World Cups and having a strong career with Barcelona and Mallorca too. Now onto the rules. - Only buy Spanish players, specifically those from the region of the Balearic Islands. There are 50 cities according to the editor, the biggest of which are Mallorca, Palma, Ibiza and Minorca. I'll set up a transfer filter for that. - .... I guess that's the only rule I've used the editor to boost the finances/facilities a bit, as he has a significant net worth i put in about 20 million pounds as a starting balance, and increased each facility category by 10 so they aren't maxed out, but range from 13-17. Here's a bit of info on the club: Division: Tercera Division Group 11 Established: 1928 Nickname: El Toro Salvaje (The Raging Bulls) - I changed this one to suit. Status: Professional Estimated Value: $37.7M Training Facilities: Superb Youth Facilities: Excellent Junior Coaching: Good Youth Recruitment: Well Established Stadium: Na Capellera (4,000) Fierce Rivals: C.D. Serverense Media Prediction: 5th Manager Profile I've given him a National A license as a semi-pro football, and the stats I think are as fairly accurate. Doesn't offer much in the coaching department, but mental and fitness coaching is where he is strong and can translate that from tennis. Maxed out his determination to reflect reality too, as he exemplifies that on court. As for the tactic, it is not my own, it is a slight adaptation on @smp20's Arrigo Sacchi tactic that brought him much success in his careers. I was so fascinated and impressed by this tactic, at how vicious it could be on the counter and relentless in defence as well. What better way to describe Rafael Nadal? His ability to turn defence into attack in one shot as well as his ability to close down even the most seemingly impossible to reach balls and return them. So I figured that this tactic is essentially his on court strategy personified on a football field. For those who are interested in the workings of this tactic and the philosophy around it here is the link: https://community.sigames.com/topic/394975-every-country-are-you-nuts/?do=findComment&comment=10646315 I downloaded the Spanish leagues off the Steam workshop, but you can get it here: https://www.fmsite.net/files/file/682-tercera-división-de-españa/ That's it really, hopefully this will be a bit of fun! Squad update coming up next.

Version: Primavera. State: Definitive. The Third Division is included in the Spanish league system. This is the activation of the rules of the Third Division, so this version is compatible with modified or extended databases. Comments and contributions are appreciated. Install in: C: \ Documents \ Sports Interactive \ Football Manager 2018 \ editor data Spanish soccer leagues: 1.- First Division. 2.- Second Division. 3.- Third Division. Youth Leagues: 1.- Division of Youth Honor of Spain. - - - 000 - - - FMSite https://www.fmsite.net/files/file/682-tercera-división-de-españa/ Steam http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1236216087 Follow me! https://twitter.com/Florian_Saltes - - - 000 - - - Versión: Primavera. Estado: Definitiva. Se incluye en el sistema de ligas española la Tercera División. Se trata de activación de las reglas de la Tercera División por lo que esta versión es compatible con bases de datos modificadas o ampliadas. Se agradecen comentarios y aportaciones. Instalar en: C:\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2018\editor data Ligas de fútbol de España: 1.- Primera División. 2.- Segunda División. 3.- Tercera División. Ligas Juveniles: 1.- División de Honor Juvenil de España. - - - 000 - - -

Love thy neighbour? Not this Angel Introduction This career starts in Getafe, a city with around 160,000 inhabitants just a few kilometers south of Madrid. The city's only professional club, Getafe CF, is where my manager (to be introduced later) will be forging his career. Getafe are a relatively new club, having been formed in 1983 after a merger. They started in the depths of the lower leagues but 4 quick promotions saw them climb to the 3rd tier. Eventually, the club won promotion to La Liga in 03/04 and they stayed in the top flight for 12 consecutive seasons. Their best finish was 6th in 2010 and the clubs biggest successes were the back to back Copa del Rey finals in 2007 & 2008, however they were defeated in both. Unfortunately last season the club were relegated from La Liga and now find themselves in the Segunda. The clubs biggest rivals are Leganes, based in a city in close proximity to Getafe, who leapfrogged Getafe to play in the top flight for the first time in their history. Also lower league side Parla are another fierce rival, although it is an unlikely fixture in the near future. You may wonder why Barcelona are listed as rivals. This rivalry stems from the 06/07 season where Getafe thrashed Barcelona 4-0 in the Copa del Rey semi-final. Ever since, games between the two sides have been heated, particularly when Getafe play at home. There is a 'friendly' rivalry with Atletico and Real Madrid, though the friendliness of this is something I really want to change. My aim is to become fierce rivals with our bigger neighbours. The biblical reference in the thread title mirrors the clubs use of biblical references in their 06/07 season ticket campaign, whereby Jesus, Moses and Abraham were depicted to sacrifice themselves for Getafe. A controversial move. Getafe play at the Coliseum Alfonso Perez, names after former Spanish international Alfonso Perez who never played for Getafe, but is the most famous player to have come from the city. it is a 17,700 all-seater stadium and like many other Spanish stadiums it is mostly open air. The club boasts good Training Facilities, whilst the Youth Facilities, Junior Coaching and Youth Recruitment are distinctly average. The Manager: Angel Vivar Dorado Meet our Angel, the manager alias of choice. Why him? Well Dorado is a club icon who played for the club between 2002 and 2007, making 150 appearances and he was an influential figure in the 2006/07 cup run including scoring a goal in the 4-0 demolition of Barcelona. To top it off, he's a local lad. The Philosophy The whole career will be based around a tactic I created on FM13, replicated for the current version with some small differences. It emulates the philosophy of Arrigo Sacchi. Shamelessly plugged from my FM13 tactic upload introduction: " So this tactic is based on the philosophy behind Arrigo Sacchi's 4-4-2 approach. Sacchi played with high intensity and a high defensive line. This enabled him to squeeze the play in the middle of park, and ensured that the distance between his defensive and forward lines was never more than 25 metres. Essentially, this constituted naturally occurring pressing—perhaps one of the first in football with such velocity. Sacchi reasoned that by squeezing the pitch, in order for his opponent to get through his side, they'd need to break down three lines of players in quick succession. Not many managed it. Attacking-wise, there was no one strict way to break down the opposition. Chances were created through build-up/passing play through the middle, crosses from wide and counter-attacks. Sacchi was a proponent of multi-purpose players. Not fond of the specialist, he looked for all of his players to be capable of every job on the field, which is why his interchanging 4-4-2 worked so well.The midfielders were well-rounded and functional in every area, his forwards chased and his defenders pushed up. Teamwork was what his side were predicated on, and it was teamwork that allowed them to become one of the greatest sides in footballing history. The tactic resembles a 4-4-2, however with a slight change of two DMs as opposed to MCs. This enabled the tactic to be a lot more solid defensively, bringing the lines of the players a lot closer. The Sweeper Keeper does his job sweeping up behind the back line, two FBs on support allowing them the licence to get forward, but not at the expense of their defensive duties. The two DCs act as ball playing defenders, able to pick out those quick counter passes once the ball is won. The DMs act as box-to-box players, supporting the attack and defence. The wingers provide the outlets for the attack, pushing forward once the ball is won, but also have defensive duties in winning the ball back. A complete striker supports the advanced forward, although both are equally important in both assisting and scoring goals. With the emphasis on fluid play and well-rounded, high pressing players a general basis of teamwork, work rate and determination are needed for this tactic to work. Lazy and/or selfish players will ruin the cogs in the machine. There is no target man or playmaker as individual creativity and decisions are important in this tactic." Key Players Club captain Mehdi Lacen has already been at the club for 5 seasons and he will be influential in our midfield. He already fits the profile of a ''Sacchi-like'' player. The second longest serving player at the club, behind Lacen, Vicente is a very capable goalkeeper and I fully expect him to be a big difference - his saves will win us points. Diaz, a club icon, is now back at the club for a second stint, having played here between 2007 and 2012. He may be 37, but he is a huge character to have at the club. Career Aims Get back in to La Liga! Cement a fierce rivalry with Atletico Madrid, Barcelona and (most importantly) Real Madrid by becoming a real La Liga competitor. Win La Liga and the Champions League. Adhere to a 'Sacchi Philosophy', bringing in players with high determination, teamwork and work rate and get rid of those who do not fit the mould. Develop a world-class cantera that will compete with the likes of Barca's La Masia, underpinned by the whole club philosophy.

Hello! First apologize to the English-speaking users, for my horrible English. I am working on making the complete pyramid of the Spanish leagues, it would be up to 9th level. At the moment the database is created with the clubs, more than 4000 , and their respective regional competitions. This is how easy. Now I am editing the rules so that the system can work. And I'm have problems. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/stats/1303325418 1º In some competitions they are divided into groups. My question is: How to make the composition of these groups with certain teams for a specific year? For example. That in the year 2017 Group 1 are the teams A, C, H, K, ..., in Group 2 the teams B, S, T, ... and in Group 3 the teams E, I, J , ... 2º In Spain, there are two leagues in level 5 (Ceuta and Melilla) where the winner of the league promotes only if there are no teams from that city (Ceuta or Melilla) in that level. Is ist possible to create this rule? Thanks for your help and your participation.

On this years edition of FM i have chosen Sevilla, mainly due to the fantastic defence, creative and solid midfield and terrifyingly quick forwards. 3-4-3 was the tactic i would be implementing, not at first but after evaluating the squad i realised that the players fit into the system i was looking to build towards. The tactic says 343 direct however ignore the direct part, i was trying to play direct football as i thought the 3 at the back would be exposed if i played a possession game but that is not the case. Balance is key for me as i wan't to keep a hold of the ball but with a purpose of getting to and overloadind the the last third. Defensively, the players are solid, Kjaer is the key role. Because the wingbacks will be so high up the pitch i have the right and left defenders on the cover duty as i want them to cover that space when we lose possession and are susceptible to a counter. It is working and the goals i have conceded so far have all been set pieces. Back to Kjaer - putting him on the stopper duty makes him push up and cover the space between defence and midfield and it it is working as planned. Here is the tactic- Examples from a 4-1 beating of an in form sociedad- In the shot below you can see how we squeeze up into the last third and the marauding wing backs provide all of the width which is what you want in a 3-4-3 but you can also see how the back three cover the centre of the pitch. Below you can see the defence, kjaer doing what he does, that is his role in this tactic as his tackling and mentals are through the roof, he done this multiples times in the match and stopped a pass out to the wings. To get through to kjaer the opposition have to get past the solid midfield pairing of nzonzi and pizarro. You can also see that the wingbacks keep the wing in check. At times it does look like a back 4 in the match as kjaer is patrolling and cleaning that dm area. The main reason i use the narrow shape in the TI is to funnel the ball to the wings and to make it the defending easier for the midfield and kjaer by compressing the space. If they have to cover a lot area i don't think it will be as effective. As the figure shows, a lot of the key passes are towards the side of the pitch, with hardly any through balls - i have played with through balls as the strikers are rapid with high of the balls stats but it has not worked as well as i hoped. Tinkering to hopefully make it effective but as of now i am not using that TI. The midfield of nzonzi, pizarro, banega and correa control the games, especially the first 3. The technical skill and movement keep the ball moving and they dictate the tempo of the game, you can see the passing triangles they create and it can unlock a defence, The team is really well balanced and i will update this post when i get to christmas as i have some really tough games coming up especially in the champions league, will be a big test to see how the system deals with spurs. Also any sort of constructive criticism on 3-4-3 formations, useful tips anything at all to make this system better would be very welcome.

----ºººº---- v. 18.3.0 Winter Update To activate the 9th level (Cuarta Regional) we have included new teams (+ 4000 teams!), new stadiums, new derbis, etc. Database with all Spanish teams in the leagues 2017/18. Included is the root for promotion on the teams in their levels of competitions. Revised stadiums and locations of the Spanish teams. Resumen: Ligas de fúbtol de España: Level 1 1.- Liga Santander Level 2 2.- Liga 123 Level 3 3.- Segunda División B (4 groups) Level 4 4.- Tercera División (18 groups) Level 5 5.- Regional Preferente (26 competitions) Preferente Autonómica de Galicia Regional Preferente de Asturias Regional Preferente de Cantabria Regional Preferente de Álava División Honor Regional de Guipúzcoa División Honor de Vizcaya Primera Catalana Regional Preferente Valenciana Regional Preferente de Madrid Primera División Regional de Castilla y León División Honor de Andalucía Grupo I División Honor de Andalucía Grupo II Preferente de Ceuta Preferente de Melilla Primera División Extremeña Preferente Autonómica de la Región de Murcia Primera Regional Preferente de Mallorca Regional Preferente de Ibiza-Formentera Regional Preferente de Menorca Preferente Interinsular de Las Palmas Interinsular Preferente de Tenerife Interinsular Preferente de La Palma Primera Autonómica de Navarra Regional Preferente de Aragón Regional Preferente de La Rioja Primera Autonómica Preferente de Castilla-La Mancha level 6 6.- Primera Regional (45 competitions) Primera Autonómica de Galicia - La Coruña Primera Autonómica de Galicia - Lugo Primera Autonómica de Galicia - Ourense Primera Autonómica de Galicia - Pontevedra Primera Regional de Cantabria Primera Regional de Asturias División Preferente de Vizcaya Regional Preferente de Guipúzcoa Primera Regional de Álava Segunda Catalana - Girona Segunda Catalana - Barcelona Segunda Catalana - Lleida Segunda Catalana - Tarragona Primera Regional de la Comunidad Valenciana Primera Aficionados de Madrid Primera División Provincial de Castilla y León - Ávila Primera División Provincial de Castilla y León - Burgos Primera División Provincial de Castilla y León - León Primera División Provincial de Castilla y León - Palencia Primera División Provincial de Castilla y León - Segovia Primera División Provincial de Castilla y León - Salamanca Primera División Provincial de Castilla y León - Soria Primera División Provincial de Castilla y León - Valladolid Primera División Provincial de Castilla y León - Zamora Primera División Andaluza Grupo I Jaén Primera División Andaluza Grupo II Cádiz Primera División Andaluza Grupo III Córdoba Primera División Andaluza Grupo IV Almería Primera División Andaluza Grupo V Málaga Primera División Andaluza Grupo VI Sevilla Primera División Andaluza Grupo VII Huelva Primera División Andaluza Grupo VIII Granada Segunda División Extremeña Primera Autonómica de Murcia Primera Regional de Mallorca Primera Regional Gran Canaria Primera Regional Fuerteventura Primera Interinsular Tenerife Regional Preferente de Navarra Primera Regional de Aragón Grupo 1 - Zaragoza Primera Regional de Aragón Grupo 2 - Huesca Primera Regional de Aragón Grupo 3 - Provincia de Zaragoza Primera Regional de Aragón Grupo 4 - Teruel Primera División Autonómica Castilla-La Mancha Level 7 7.- Segunda Regional (37 competitions) Segunda Autonómica de Galicia - La Coruña Segunda Autonómica de Galicia - Ferrol Segunda Autonómica de Galicia - Santiago Segunda Autonómica de Galicia - Lugo Segunda Autonómica de Galicia - Ourense Segunda Autonómica de Galicia - Pontevedra Segunda Autonómica de Galicia - Vigo Segunda Regional de Asturias Segunda Regional de Cantabria Primera División de Vizcaya Primera Regional de Guipúzcoa Tercera Catalana - Girona Tercera Catalana - Barcelona Tercera Catalana - Lleida Tercera Catalana - Tarragona Segunda Aficionados de Madrid Segunda Regional de la Comunidad Valenciana Segunda División Provincial de Castilla y León - León Segunda División Provincial de Castilla y León - Segovia Segunda División Provincial de Castilla y León - Valladolid Segunda División Andaluza Almería Segunda División Andaluza Cádiz Segunda División Andaluza Córdoba Segunda División Andaluza Granada Segunda División Andaluza Huelva Segunda División Andaluza Jaén Segunda División Andaluza Málaga Segunda División Andaluza Sevilla Segunda Autonómica de Murcia Segunda Regional de Mallorca Segunda Regional Gran Canaria Segunda Interinsular Tenerife Primera Regional de Navarra Segunda Regional de Aragón - Zaragoza Segunda Regional de Aragón - Huesca Segunda Regional de Aragón - Provincia de Zaragoza Segunda División Autonómica Castilla-La Mancha Level 8 8.- Tercera Regional (19 competitions) Tercera Autonómica de Galicia - La Coruña Tercera Autonómica de Galicia - Santiago Tercera Autonómica de Galicia - Lugo Tercera Autonómica de Galicia - Ourense Tercera Autonómica de Galicia - Pontevedra Tercera Autonómica de Galicia - Vigo Segunda División de Vizcaya Cuarta Catalana - Girona Cuarta Catalana - Barcelona Cuarta Catalana - Lleida Cuarta Catalana - Tarragona Tercera Aficionados de Madrid Tercera División Provincial de Castilla y León - Valladolid Tercera División Andaluza Almería Tercera División Andaluza Cádiz Tercera División Andaluza Granada Tercera División Andaluza Málaga Tercera División Andaluza Sevilla Tercera Regional de Mallorca Segunda Regional B de Aragón Level 9 9.- Cuarta Regional (2 competitions) Tercera División de Vizcaya Tercera Regional de Aragón https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisiones_regionales_de_f%C3%BAtbol_de_Espa%C3%B1a Under-19: 1.- División de Honor Juvenil de España (7 groups) * Copa de Campeones de División de Honor Juvenil * Copa del Rey Juvenil de Fútbol - - - 0 0 0 - - - Friendly Trophies: Torneig d'Històrics del Futbol Català Trofeo Villa de Gijón Trofeo Villa de Bilbao* Trofeo Vallecas Trofeo Teresa Herrera Trofeo Teide Trofeo Santiago Bernabéu Trofeo Reyno de Navarra Trofeo Ramón de Carranza Trofeo Playa y Sol Trofeo Naranja Trofeo Memorial Quinocho Trofeo Luis Otero Trofeo Los Cármenes Trofeo Lasesarre Trofeo Joan Gamper Trofeo Festa d'Elx Trofeo del Olivo Trofeo de la Vendimia Trofeo Costa del Sol Trofeo Emma Cuervo Trofeo Costa Brava Trofeo Concepción Arenal Trofeo Colombino Trofeo Ciutat de Barcelona Trofeo Ciudad de Zaragoza Trofeo Ciudad de Zamora Trofeo Ciudad de Vigo Trofeo Ciudad de Valladolid Trofeo Ciudad de Santa Cruz Trofeo Ciudad de Palma Trofeo Ciudad de La Línea Trofeo Ciudad de Alicante Trofeo Cervantes Trofeo Carabela de Plata Trofeo Antonio Puerta Trofeo Against Modern Football Memorial Jesús Gil y Gil Copa de la Hispanidad* Torneos de clubes (temporada): Copa Ibérica de Fútbol - Taça Ibérica (Champions to Liga Santander and 1ª División Portugal) Copa Heliodoro Rodríguez López Campió de Catalunya d'Aficionats Copa Catalunya Absoluta Copa Catalunya Amateur Trofeo Diputación de Valladolid Copa de la Diputación de Jaén Copa de la Diputación de Soria Thanks to Jaime Luis, @Slabbekoorn, @krlenjushka for their help in making the present application possible ;). Heel erg bedankt voor alles / Хвала вам на пажњи и помоћи =). Download link: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1307331003 -. Logos for spanish teams until Preferente (6º level): https://www.facebook.com/FMPreferente/ The next update: Division sub-19 National and Regional.

Well, we are now heading into the ninth year of this challenge. It has been an incredible six years around here with some great stories, clubs, and players. Rlipscombe, Iacovone and Myself are looking forward to another great year. This challenge is similar to dafuge's, Gundo's & others, starting with a previously unplayable club and taking them all the way to a National Title and then on to the European Champions League. With a variety of leagues, styles of play, different rules, and many different locations for your clubs there can be a lot of variety throughout the thread, a great atmosphere and fun with all our users. Special credit to Duccio for the logo atop this years challenge. General Challenge Info Possible Countries France | Germany | Italy | Netherlands | Portugal | Russia | Spain | Turkey League Rules Top Divisions France | Germany | Italy | Netherlands | Portugal | Russia | Spain | Turkey 2nd Divisions France | Germany | Italy | Netherlands | Portugal | Russia | Spain | Turkey 3rd Divisions France | Germany | Italy | Portugal | Spain | Turkey League Reset Dates June 20th - France, Germany, Russia & Turkey June 30th - Portugal & Italy July 7th - Netherlands July 10th - Spain The Rules A) Game Set-up 1) Load One Nation Only (All Available Divisions within your nation) 2) Your choice of Database Size (Large Recommended) 3) NO Edited Databases of any kind 4) Customising Database You can add players to the database up to a limit of 100,000 in total - Change for people wanting more variety in their DB Suggested Adds Players from Top Clubs/Top Divisions (Europe or All Continents) - This increases the challenge at Continental Level Players Based in your Nation - This can add up to 50% more players to your game Players Based in your Region (Central Europe/East Europe/UK & Ireland) - This can add extra players likely to join your club There will be a file correcting the club/competition names, I will advise use of this. NO other additional customising is allowed. 5) Attribute Masking should be Enabled (In FM17 this means UNTICKED) 6) Disable Ingame Editor (Please do this) 7) Optional Ticks Add Key Staff (This will give you a Scout, Physio & Ass Man by generating them if your club is without) Add Players in Playable Nations (This will ensure all clubs have a minimum number of players, generating them if needed) The extra levels of detail that you can change while in the game are up to you, as they shouldn't make a difference. B) Steps in the Game 1) Add an unemployed manager, you will not use this man to manage your club. I like "Unemployed Man or Holiday Man" 2) Go on holiday until the reset date of your chosen nation (Should take about an hour) TIP - Changing Detail Level to None will make it go faster. (Remember to change it back afterwards) TIP - Saving on the day before this date may give you a better choice of teams by reloading the game then going on holiday for one day, I would strongly recommend trying this. 3) Add a new manager - Use yourself, or a created character to help build a story line a) Personal Details - Your Choice b) Tracksuit vs Trainer - Your Choice c) Past Experience lowest Possible (Generally Sunday League) d) Coaching Licenses lowest Possible (None) e) Other options are up to you TIP - If you add the language of your country of choice it will make it easier at the beginning TIP - Training now includes you at some level depending on your abilities. 4) Choose to take over any club which has been promoted to the bottom playable league of your nation. TIP - Easiest way in FM17 to see this is on the "Season Review" screen, showing the "Promoted Clubs" TIP - You can confirm your club by checking the Domestic History's page for not being at this level since start of game 5) Retire your unemployed manager. 6) Manage your club to National Title & European Champions League Victory 7) Completing the 'Big' Euro Challenge. C) Signing of Players 1) You must be able to scout them TIP - You don't actually have to scout them, just be able to TIP - You can check your scouting range on the Scouting page 2) Alternatively (If you can't scout them), you must bring them on a trial first 3) You are able to sign anyone sent to you via Agent Offer TIP - Make sure you screenshot the Agent offer 4) In later versions you can get your DoF to find players, he will bring in players not in Scouting Range, these are also allowed. TIP - Grab a screenshot of your DoF signing them D) Posting 1) Player naming is allowed. (This is a warning for those of you who do not wish to see this) 2) Discussion of tactics is allowed. (This is another warning for those of you who do not wish to see this) Expected Updates We have minimum expectations when it comes to a first up post and also in the end of season updates. The Bold pages are necessary for everyone, the others are some suggestions that will get others interested in your posts and following your club. All other screenshots are welcome and encouraged, but we please ask that the majority are posted as links, because lots of pictures can make the page very slow to load. First Post: Domestic Leagues History (Club) Profile (Manager) Overview (Club) Squad (Club) End of Season Updates: Transfers (Club) - This is so we can see the ins & outs League Table (Competition) Squad (Club) Information (Manager) Profile (Manager) Information (Club) Profile (Players) I will show some examples of updates down below in the next posts so you can see some of the stuff previously posted. Progress of your club should be documented using this thread, we want to hear the story of your club all the way through. Please keep us updated, even if you are doing badly. If you title your end of season report in bold this makes it easier to identify. Everyone will be supportive, and really get into your game if you give more detail, I also provide a list of some previous star players that may have become household names in this thread. E) Other If you are Sacked You can Restart from the beginning or; Continue your game and pick a new club (Under Same Rules) at the end of the next season or; Add another Big Euro League/Remove Current League, holiday a whole season and continue You can still only have one nation running at a time Once the league becomes active you MUST holiday a full season The club must be one of those unplayable from the beginning No Restrictions on Parent or Feeder Clubs International Management allowed from FM14 forwards (But you cannot start as an International Manager) The use of any external utilities and editors (Such as Genie Scout or FMM) are prohibited. As of FM14 there are also unlockables, these are also prohibited, please don't use them. It would be appreciated if you also ticked the box at the start which prevents the use of the ingame editor. How to Post a Screenshot 1) While in FM, press the 'Prt Sc' button (usually next to F12 on your keyboard). 2) Open an image editing program such as Paint and paste the image 3) Save the file as a JPEG or PNG 4) Upload the image to an image hosting website such as Photobucket or Imageshack 5) Post the direct Url to the image here. Alternatively using ALT + F9 in game saves a screenshot to your user data folder. (You can also edit this in the shortcuts options) The LLR Motivational Finally I would like to wish everyone taking on this challenge the best of luck on a long and hard journey to managerial success! The atmosphere and contribution in this thread has always been excellent, long may it continue. As core members for every year, LLR, rlipscombe, Iacovone and PRDH would like to add that we are here to help for the new challengers and hope everybody that participates contributes considerably to the thread. There is nothing better than getting immersed not only in your own game but providing the encouragement to other people's attempts too. Remember we are all fighting the same battle - to defeat the AI (and uncover fabulous newgens!) - therefore it goes without saying that any form of cheating will be severely chastised. Don't do it! We have had an incident in the past, lets not see it again - it spoils the challenge for the hard workers in here. Note: All the screenshots etc are from when I last ran the challenge in 2015, so I will do my best to update them in the coming week, but this is it for now.

Hi I'm playing in the Spanish lower leagues, in my first season with Gernika (I started unemployed...don't know if that matters) I didn't get entered into the Spanish cup nor the federation cup...so effectively I only played league games In my second season I got entered into the Spanish cup, but not into the federation cup (I was still in the B league, so should of been) Screenshots attached

Hey, I just wanted to know if anyone knew of teams which had new stadiums being built within the game? I know Tottenham have their new stadium being built by 2018-19 and play at Wembley. Just wanted to see if any other teams had a new stadium being built. Thanks!

Hi I'm currently managing athletic Bilbao, and have noticed that all the Basque players I can buy are from Africa and Asia (I'm not saying that's not possible) and don't come through youth development in Spain/France. I regularly search through all the Basque clubs but they only ever develop Spanish (or French in France) players and not ones with joint nationality with Basque country It would seem reasonable that the Basque teams should develop a reasonable amount of players with joint Basque nationality The teams I search are: Real Sociedad (produce an odd one) and B team, Alaves (none), eibar (odd one), osasuna (none) and their B, Amorebieta; Arenas Club; Barakaldo; Gernika; Leioa;; Real Unión; Vitoria (all none!) Thanks

Introduction Welcome to my second FM18 thread. Forgive me for my love of alliteration. This will be a wordy introduction but I'll be getting to my usual style with screenshots soon. I’ll be returning to what I like to do best here: a single club career, with a focus on youth development, and in Spain, which is my favourite place to manage in Football Manager. It will be (at least slightly) different than before, though. While the inclusion of B- and even C-teams in the main league pyramid is not for everyone, I for one am a big fan of it. That is why for this save I will not only be taking over the first team of a club, but also the B and C team, with different managers. Since, if you did not know already, in Spain the B and C teams are represented faithfully in game as separate clubs. Most of the time these B and C clubs are former independent clubs taken over by a bigger club in the neighbourhood to be used as a feeder team. There are also remarkable stories with this, like in Malaga. The main club was bankrupt, so the former B team became the main club – and still is to this day. If I do this with three managers I have total control over the three teams and its players, and can really follow their development up close. Of course you do have to play a lot more matches per season (praise the IR button!) and there can be a few issues in FM since I don’t think this is exactly what they had in mind. At least in FM17, where I tried a save like this out for a few seasons, the contracts of the B and C team managers couldn’t be renewed even though the board offered new contracts. The only way to circumvent that issue was the use of the IGE. I don’t know yet if this is fixed for FM18, we will see I guess. To be able to do this at all you need more Spanish leagues than are in the vanilla version. The highest C clubs play in the Tercera Division, the fourth tier of Spanish football. There are five of these: Villarreal, Sevilla, Real Sociedad, Athletic Bilbao and Las Palmas. (in previous times Real Madrid, Atletico and Barcelona all have had C teams but have since given up on them for a variety of reasons. Messi played his first league matches for the C team for instance). But I’ve decided to go for a different route. When you go further down the Spanish pyramid, you’ll keep on noticing a ton of B teams, but also a few C teams here and there. Some amateur teams even have D teams in the real life pyramid, but I did not found those in the database I have downloaded (from fmsite.net if you are interested). That database goes to down to the Cuarta regional, the 9th and lowest tier of Spanish football. There are relatively few tiers but the Spanish league system has a remarkable amount of regional sub leagues on each level (4 on the third tier, 18 on the fourth tier and much, much more on lower tiers). The lowest possible I could’ve gone was for a semi-pro club, C.F. Trapagaran, whose main team play in the 6th tier, the B team in the 8th and the C team in the 9th. Perhaps that would’ve been an awesome challenge, but a little bit too daunting (I also do not particularly like semi-professional management) – added to the fact that going this far down you have thousands of clubs and hundreds of leagues, and it just was a bit too slow, even on a pretty good computer. So I’ve gone for one that I find interesting – a decently big professional club, Tenerife. Their main team plays in the Segunda Division, and they are (obviously) based on the Island of Tenerife. Their rivals are Las Palmas, the other big Canary Islands team, who have done incredibly well over the past few seasons and built themselves up, higher than Tenerife. Tenerife’s B team plays in the Tercera division, and their C team plays in the Segunda Regional, the 7th tier. In the database I’ve downloaded that team plays in a Catalan league, which seems very incorrect but that doesn’t matter too much for me, they should be moving on soon any way. To create a bit of a narrative I’ve decided that the three managers will be three brothers. With Andorran-Dutch nationalities, obviously. The elder brother, a certain Marc X, you might be familiar with already. Let me introduce you to his siblings: Benito X, a younger brother and manager of the B team and Xavier X, the manager of the C-team. All the three managers will stick at their clubs for the duration of this save, is the plan. Don’t expect crazy narrative stuff from me like some of the legends on this board, but it’s just a little bit of a fun added thing in the thread. Strategy, Limitations, Style of Play Now onto the way I am actually planning to do this save and post here. It will not be 100% youth only, although all youth prospects will be signed every year and a lot of them will be given chances in the C and/or B teams. As for players I am signing, I have decided to take a little bit of a different route. I will allow myself to buy players, but only from nations that I consider unlikely to have great players – the weaker nations internationally. These can be nations like Andorra, San Marino etc from Europe, or Bolivia, Mozambique, Cambodia, etc. To make sure that a lot of these nations actually have players (and newgens) I have loaded a lot of these nations’ players in the custom database settings. I have not loaded their leagues but the domestic Claassen updates are loaded so that the clubs and leagues should be somewhat realistic for these smaller nations. If you’re wondering how this goes with foreign rules, I have the answer for you 😊 In Spain at first glance the rules seem really strict, with only 2 non-eu players allowed in the Segunda Division and 3 in La Liga, but then you need to look closer. All Conotou nations are not considered non-eu. Which means that a ton of Caribbean, African and Pacific nations do not count (pretty much all African nations outside of North Africa, pretty much the whole of Oceania outside of New Zealand). Usually this would not matter much, but since these are the places in the world I am specifically looking to sign players from, this will be interesting. Asian players and certain north American nations will be tougher to deal with, since it will take a whopping 10 years for non-EU/South America foreigners to get Spanish nationality. As a Dutchman I am particularly interested to see if there can be any good players coming from places like Aruba, Curaçao or Bonaire. The chances are very slim but you never know. Usually I would skip even looking at places like the minnow countries, but it should be interesting to see if some of them can become decent players or more. At some point, with young players coming in this way, and through the youth intakes, there will simply be too many players for the three teams. If that is the case I will start loaning players out. Since I will always keep around at least 5 tiers in Spain (perhaps only removing the 6th and 7th if the C team goes up the ranks, depending on game speed) I can look for teams on a variety of levels to give them playing time in league football as well. It of course can also be the case that a player is just too good for the C team but not good enough yet for the B team, or the same for players between the B team and the first team, I will loan them out as well. I will have some foreign leagues on view-only, like the Dutch, Portuguese and the PL. The only foreign leagues I will add playable are the Andorran leagues. As far as the tactics are concerned, I will mostly be using a similar style of play as I did in my previous save, a kind of direct 4-2-3-1 but for the B & C teams a little bit more simplistic so that the defenders don’t need to be ball playing defenders right away etc. Anyway, as should be clear by now I’ve wanted to do this for a while and have thought about how I would go about it, so I’m excited to finally give this a full go. In my next post I will be getting into the players, the squads and what will need to happen in the first transfer window.

Hi, I'm Spanish, so if I do not speak, I want to forgive Well, a few hours ago that the forum of my speech goes rumored that this year the Spanish league (1st and 2nd) will not have licenses such as lead and years. I wish someone could clarify something here. Greetings and thank you! Forgive if not well rated the issue

This Backstory is totally fictional! New Years Eve went pear shaped, my Wife eventually found out all my indiscretions, and in the ensuing disaster I lost her, my kids, my family disowned me along with all my friends. As the clock struck Midnight I knew a change had to be made. What can I do I thought. I had nothing left apart from a bag of clothes and my National C Licence coaching badge. After a chat with a close friend (the only one who still spoke to me) I knew I had to get out, disappear, create a new identity in a new country. When I arrived at Gatwick Airport I didn't know where I was going to end up. I went to the travel agents inside the airport and asked where the next available flight went, I only had £500 to my name and needed some spare cash when I arrived at my destination to find a hotel and then a job so it had to be as cheap as possible. The destination? Gibraltar. Then it hit me, why not use my National C Licence to do some good. Let's go to Gibraltar and start a journey. I hope I would never return to the UK, instead travel the world seeing all the places I had dreamed of going to, but do to that I had to earn money, I needed a job that paid enough to live, but also enough to save for the future. A career as a journeyman football manager was the perfect choice. As I boarded the flight I knew it was the right choice but I wanted to make it as fun as possible along the way so I needed to set myself some aims, objectives and challenges to do along the way. On the 150 minute flight I drew myself up a list of things. Win the League in a nation before I can move to the next. I can only move to a nation that borders the nation I am in, so from Gibraltar I'd have to move to Spain, and so on and so on. If there is no bordering nation that I haven't already been to then I can move to the nearest one. I have to make my choices to better myself and my financial situation. If a job comes in from a club in the same nation that pays more then I can go (if I want to). I want to win the Champions League in all 6 continents When I finish my journey I want the whole world to know who I am! How will I document my journey? Each new club will have a post telling you about the club, location, squad, etc Each post will be as sharp and to the point as possible. It will be done on a monthly basis with results and table review. At the end of each season there will be a review of the season as a whole. I touched down at Gibraltar Airport and checked myself into the cheapest B&B I could find, when I wake up in the morning I have to go job hunting! Career History 2016/17 - Manchester 62 (Gibraltar) - Premier Division 8th