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  1. Hello all and welcome to the FM20 Benchmarking Thread Carrying on the sterling work of @SebastianRO and @Powermonger in previous years, I've decided to make it a little bit different this year and hopefully open up at least one of the benchmarks to more people who, like myself, may have less than stellar equipment With that in mind I've made the first benchmark a lot less demanding but Benchmarks B & C will be familiar to those who have done these benchmarks in previous years ---------------------------------------------------------- The first benchmark, new this year, has 20 leagues in 10 nations loaded using a medium database and has a total player count of 51,330 players, This seems like a popular type of setup for many and I've added it due to the feedback from this thread Just click on the hyperlink below to download the file, Save files to \Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2020\games Benchmark A: Game starts on 20.08.19 and you need to go on holiday until 27.08.19 - Use a stopwatch to measure the time. For the following 2 benchmarks, directly mirroring last year, I have loaded all 51 nations (117 leagues), using a large database giving a total player count of 162,590 which is higher than last years 141,670. Just click on the hyperlinks below to download the 2 Files. Save files to \Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2020\games Benchmark B: Game starts on 27.08.19 and you need to go on holiday until 07.09.19 - Use a stopwatch to measure the time. Benchmark C: Game starts on 27.08.19 and you need to go on holiday until 02.09.19 - Use a stopwatch to measure the time. - Benchmark C will take longer because it has Full Detail activated for England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain. --------------------------------------------------- In order to get the most accurate / consistent result possible, I advise you to restart your PC / Laptop and then close everything that is unnecessary, leaving only FM opened. If you run the game on a laptop, don't forget to plug it in the socket before you begin. After you load the save, ensure that auto save interval is disabled, and also set processing to Fast (Less Responsive), both can be found by using the search bar in Preferences. Below is the format in which I advise you to post your results, it's pretty much the same as previous years, don't worry if you aren't sure of the Base/Turbo frequencies of your processor as I can find this out for you as long as you know the CPU Model. To find out the specs of your PC open the spoiler below ------------------------------------------------------- Below are my results for you to follow as a template: Type: Laptop Model: HP ENVY 17 CPU Model: i7 - 4710MQ CPU Base Frequency: 2.5GHz CPU Turbo Frequency: 3.50 GHz RAM: 16GB RAM Clockspeed: 1600Mhz GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 840M - 2GB Storage Type: SSD Benchmark A: 1 min 42 Sec Benchmark B: 12 min 42 Sec Benchmark C: 14 min 02 Sec ------------------------------------------------------------------- Any queries let me know, and if any of the more graphically inclined among you want to present the data in a more appealing visual nature feel free, for the moment I'll be keeping a spreadsheet (in a similar format that powermonger did for the FM18 thread) in the second post. It'll be interesting to see how the results from FM19 compare to FM20 as the Benchmarks B and C are as identical as I could make them, even down to the club being managed Here is the link for the 2019 Benchmarking thread by @SebastianRO where you can see last years times and he also gives some great tips in the first post for people wanting to get the best out of their computers / buying a new computer for FM Happy Testing!
  2. Hello everyone, I created this thread in the hope that it will be useful to some of you who are interested in upgrading or straight up buying a computer / laptop for Football Manager. When FM19 launched back in November, I searched for this thread because I was also in the process of buying a PC, but it was then when I realised that there is no benchmarking thread for FM19. The principles of this benchmark test are the exact same that @Powermonger used when he started the FM17 Benchmarking Thread: I have loaded all 51 nations, using a large database, having a total player count of 141,670. Detail level settings are default as well. Just click on the hyperlinks below and download the 2 savegames. Benchmark A: Game starts on 20.08.18 and you need to go on holiday until 27.08.18 - Use a stopwatch to measure the time. Benchmark B: Game starts on 27.08.18 and you need to go on holiday until 07.09.18 - Use a stopwatch to measure the time. Benchmark C: Game starts on 27.08.18 and you need to go on holiday until 02.09.18. - Use a stopwatch to measure the time. - This test will take longer because it has Full Detail activated for England, France, Germany, Italy and Spain. After you load the save, ensure that auto save interval is disabled, and also set processing to Fast (Less Responsive), found at Preferences, Match Settings. In order to get the most accurate / consistent result possible, I advise you to restart your PC / Laptop and then close everything that is unnecessary, leaving only FM opened. If you run the game on a laptop, don't forget to plug it in the socket before you begin. The format in which I advise you to post your results, it's exactly the same as in the yesteryears. I will provide you with my results, so you can just follow this template: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These are my results from the PC, I will also post the results from my laptop tomorow. Computer Type: PC / Laptop CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 @4000 MHz OC GPU: nVIDIA MSI GTX 1660 Ti Twin FrozR RAM: 16 GB DDR4 @3200 MHz OS: Windows 10 X64 Version 1809 Storage: SSD - PCIe M.2 SSD Benchmark A: 3 min 06 sec Benchmark B: 6 min 14 sec Benchmark C: 10 min 58 sec ------------------------------------------ I would encourage all of you who are using these benchmarks to post your results here because it really is a huge fountain of information for people that are looking to buy / upgrade their computers in their decisions. In regards to myself, I will create a results form after more of you will post the results, so everyone can see all the relevant results with just 1 click. Now that I have reached the end of this post, I will also post some tips for people wanting to get the best out of their computers / buying a computer for FM: - CPU. The faster it is, the faster the game will process through the days. The number of cores is relevant of course, but FM is also one of those games that favors the single core performance a lot more than the number of cores overall. This is where the clock speed becomes very important. The CPU is the most important piece of hardware when playing this particular game. - RAM. Without getting into too much technicalities, I will say this: 8GB DDR3 or DDR4 is enough to play FM comfortably, but the game truly shines when you have 16GB, especially if you have 15+ leagues loaded from 6-7 different nations. In regards to the speed of the RAM, it is more important than most people think: This game benefits a lot from high-frequency memory, so DDR4 is the best option. If you build a new computer at home, go for the DDR4 @3000 MHz or 3200 MHz, especially if you have an AMD Ryzen CPU (ryzen scales amazingly with faster memory). If you are purchasing a laptop, look for DDR4 @2400 Mhz and that should be absolutly great. - GPU. This is where people are divided in 2 cathegories: ones that play in 2D and others that enjoy the game in 3D. If you use 2D and are not bothered at all by 3D graphics or stable 60 fps, then you don't even need a dedicated GPU and you can save some money. However, if you go down this road, keep in mind that the integrated GPU will take RAM and if you don't have at least 8GB ... you are in a world of hurt. But if you are like me, and like the game in 3D, then you absolutly need a decent GPU. It doesn't need to be the most powerful on the market, but it has to be decent if you play the game @1080p and want smooth and stable 60fps. For comparison's sake, on my laptop, which I only use ocasionally, I have a GTX 1050 Ti and the game runs very well. - SSD VS HDD. The game speed itself will not depend upon this, as I have tested this theory a lot of times. What will hang in the balance though is the loading time of the game and in some cases, the Save Game / Load Game time. However, if you do use a lot of custom graphics, like skins and facepacks, etc, it's a good ideea to have the game (and these custom graphics) on a SSD, as this will ensure the fact that the game is very responsive in the UI. After having a conversation with @bomtarber26, I decided to make a video in regards to the way Football Manager 2019 (and every single previous edition) use the computer's resources. I think this is a good indicator for some of you that are on the fence in regards to the CPU/RAM/GPU usage.
  3. 我2080显卡玩儿着都卡,据爆棚论坛一位网友的调查,是因为游戏运行的时候一直在尝试与一个爱尔兰的服务器连接,然而强国是有墙的,所以就会无限尝试连接又连接不上,导致大陆玩家比赛时候无论如何都会卡顿或者感觉帧数极低,但是要是把网线给拔了就好了
  4. Hello guys. I have been managing Barnsley for 3 years now. In my first year, I won the English FA Cup and got promoted from Sky Bet Championship to Premier League. I the next season, we somehow managed to stay up and not get relegated but were able to win the UEFA Euro Cup. This season we are in the mid table in Premier League and have reached the quarter finals of UEFA Champions Cup. Now, since my team has been playing above expectations in the Champions cup, I am supposing of my chances to win it. On the other hand, I have got a job offer from Schalke 04 for which I have been declared as the leading candidate with odds as small as 1-2. Schalke 04 is at 14th place in the Bundesliga. To be honest, I want a new challenge so I want this job, but then again, on the other hand, I don't want to leave my club until we are eliminated from Champions Cup. But as far as I know, Schalke 04's offer will force me into joining them immediately. I wanted some suggestions on what would be better for my career in the long term as I believe that Schalke 04 must have finances and players better than Barnsley, so I would have a better chance to prove my abilities.
  5. Where do I find performance stats on the tactics I used over the season? My board is "baffled by the so many tactics I used", and I plan to hone on one or two instead of three tactics. I thus need to see which ones worked best over the season in terms of wins, ratings, goals, etc. I also review players performance, to select which ones to renew contracts and raise in status, etc. Any tips on end of season review are appreciated. Thanks.
  6. Hello guys. I am the current manager of Wales Under 21s and Harrogate town as well. I am currently on 4th rank in Vanarama National League. My problem is that my team is really uncertain. It can win a match in one moment and lose it in another. For example; My team defeated Burton Albion in FA Cup Second Round with a score of 8-2 lost to AFC fylde which is at 24th position in my league with score of 3-0. What I mean to say is that no matter which tactic I use, the result is always a random and its stands same for the players. You never know which player is going to play well. I lost 2 matches back to back against lower level teams with an attacking tactic so I turned to balanced tactic against another low ordet club but lost again which was quite frustrating as I am determined to win the Vanarama National Leagur title. Also while using a bit defensive tactic the team was not creating any chances so I made the team train in attack mode for a week yet their performance in attacking third was below far. The wingers never cross the ball, whenever they do, the ball is always blocked by defenders and goes for a corner (and when I say always, I am not kidding). The strikers never face towards the opponents net and when they recieve the ball they lose it while they turn towards the goal. For the set pieces, we are too bad at it even though I always add about 3 set piece sessions(defend) in a week, yet we fail to protect the net. I need suggestions specially on training part because I dont think that even makes a difference in the game Thank you in advance.
  7. Other than using fewer leagues (or dodgy accelerator apps), are there any tips to make my FM19 save run faster?... (My laptop is a brand new Alienware...). Thanks.
  8. Hi all, looking for some insight into the impact of certain Pro & Con player traits that appear in Coach Reports. Focusing on comfort in "big matches" and "consistent / inconsistent performer" traits, but also interested in any related or mitigating traits. This post is a little bit long, but please bear with me! Any insight, tips or advice greatly appreciated :-) Background: Playing a local co-op save with a friend on FM15. We meet once or twice a month for 3-6 hours of game time. Currently half-way through our second season. We try to play as quickly as possible, as game time is quite limited. Started in League 2 in England, my friend manages Burton Albion while I took the reins at Tranmere Rovers. We both won promotion to League 1 in our first season, my friend (Burton) storming League 2 with 111 points, while I guided Tranmere to 2nd with 100 points. In most saves I am guilty of not paying close attention to PPMs or mental traits such as comfort in "Big Matches" and "Consistent / Inconsistent Performer". I generally decide my "best eleven" through attributes and CA star rating, keeping an eye on Work Rate and Determination (see screenshot 1), tweaking the selection based on how players perform over time. I am currently in 1st place with 51 points, while my friend is 2nd place with 50 points. A few weeks ago we were 12 and 10 points ahead of 3rd place, but we have both experienced a poor run of results and are now just 6 and 5 points ahead of 3rd place (Sheffield United, 45 points). I have lost 6 of my last 12 league games, so I took a detailed look at Coach Reports for my First XI and Bench, and discovered the following: ------------------------------------------------------- First Eleven GK: Good for Championship, Professional. RB (WB-S): Decent for Premiership, Driven, Professional, Explosive Pace. Doesn’t Enjoy Big Matches, Inconsistent Performer, Competitive Streak, Poor in the Air. CD-D: Good for Championship, Professional, Good in the Air. Fairly Slow Player, Competitive Steak. CD-D: Good for Championship, Consistent Performer, Professional, Good in the Air. Fairly Slow Player, Competitive Streak. LB (WB-S): Good for Championship, Loyal, High Work Rate, Good Team Player. Poor in the Air. CM-D: Good for Championship, Athletic, Professional. Uncomfortable in Big Matches. CM-S: Decent for Premiership, Consistent Performer, Good Team Player. Doesn’t Enjoy Big Matches. RW (IF-S): Leading Championship Player, Enjoys Big Matches, Professional, Great Pace. Lack of Strength, Lacks Athleticism. CAM (AP-A): Good for Championship, Professional, Great Pace. Doesn’t Enjoy Big Matches, Fairly Inconsistent Performer, Lack of Strength, Lacks Athleticism. LW (W-A): Good for Championship, Off the Ball Movement, Intelligent Player, Jovial Character. Doesn’t Enjoy Big Matches, Lack of Strength, Lacks Athleticism. AF: Leading League 1 Player, Enjoys Big Matches, Good Team Player, High Work Rate. Poor in the Air. Bench 3rd choice CB: Good for League 1, Enjoys Big Matches, Very Consistent Performer, Very Brave, Good Team Player. Competitive Streak, Fairly Slow Player. 2nd choice RWB: Good for League 1, Enjoys Big Matches, Strong Player, Athletic. Fairly Inconsistent Performer, Fairly Slow Player. 3rd choice CM: Good for Championship, Enjoys Big Matches, Consistent Performer, Complete Role Model, Professional, Very Brave, Good Team Player. Lack of Intelligence, Lack of Movement. 2nd choice RW: Good for League 1, Ability to Dribble, Skilful Player. Lacks Athleticism, Lack of Natural Fitness. 2nd choice CAM: Good for Championship, Enjoys Big Matches, Professional, Ability to Spot a Pass, Intelligent. Fairly Inconsistent Performer, Fairly Susceptible to Injury, Lacks Athleticism, Lack of Strength. 2nd choice LW: Good for League 1, Fairly Determined, Fairly Intelligent, Professional, Off the Ball Movement. Lack of Strength, Lacks Athleticism. 2nd choice ST: Good for League 1, Loyal, Great Pace. Poor in the Air. 3rd choice ST: Leading League 1 Player, Relishes Big Matches, Consistent Performer, Professional, Resolute, Ability to Make Right Decision. Poor in the Air. ------------------------------------------------------- Observations - 5 of my best eleven are either 'uncomfortable' or 'don't enjoy' Big Matches - 2 of those 5 players are also "Inconsistent Performers" - 4 of those 5 players happen to be 4/5 of my midfield (4-2-3-1), which is a bit worrying - 4 of my 7 league losses so far this season have come against Top 6 teams: Burton (2nd), Sheffield United (3rd), MK Dons (4th) and Swindon (5th) - In our 9 losses this season (7 league games, JP 1st round, League Cup 3rd round), the 5 players who do not enjoy big matches achieved 9 good performances from 38 starts, approx 1 good game in 4. - 5 of my bench players either 'enjoy' or 'relish' Big Matches - 3 of those 5 bench players are also "Consistent Performer" or "Very Consistent Performer" - We have the 2nd best Goals For, 3rd best Goals Against and joint-best Goal Difference in the league - Player performance for my First XI ranges from 7.0 - 7.6, but we have been pants against Top 6 teams ------------------------------------------------------- I could be wrong, but it feels like I have built a team of flat-track bullies, dominating weaker teams but struggling against Top 6 opposition Can anyone tell me... 1. What does FM consider to be a "big match"? Does this just apply to Cup games and matches against a club's rivals? Would it include games against clubs with significantly higher reputation (all competitions)? Does the game consider that we are 1st and 2nd, making games against title and promotion rivals "big matches"? 2. Do traits such as "consistent performer", "professional", "determined", "resolute", "brave" or "high work rate" compensate for "does not enjoy big matches" or "does not feel comfortable in big matches"? 3. Are the effects of "does not enjoy big matches" and "inconsistent performer" negligible if the players are considered good Championship or decent Premiership players, with 3.5+ CA? 4. Am I better off dropping some/all players who do not enjoy big matches for some/all of the highlighted games on my schedule (see screenshot 4)? Is it worth dropping 3.5-4.5 star players for 2-2.5 star reserves, with weaker attributes (but good for League 1) but stronger mental traits preferable? 5. Does "inconsistent performer" cause poor performance at random, or is this most likely to occur against strong opposition and/or big matches? 6. Would "fairly inconsistent performer" mean something like poor performance in 33% of games, and "inconsistent performer" 50% of games? Or is it completely random? 7. Do "inconsistent performer" and "does not enjoy big matches" fade away naturally with experience? Does tutoring remove or improve either trait?
  9. Hi everybody. I brought a player for 130M an despite my scout team, he is a bad one who lacks the training and loses matchs. I punish him and he accepts it everytime it happens. My question is: is it possible that the existence of this player could reduce my team performance? The last games that he played my team strangly got grades between 6 and 7, lost games or draw then. Attetion: anybody is unhappy... all my players are fine, and didn't talk to me about him. Is anybody could help me with this question? Tks a lot.
  10. Welcome all to this years FM18 Performance benchmarking thread! As per previous years, a save has been created with all 51 nations and 116 leagues using a large database. Total player count is 170,000. Note: Per my own testing and other user reports, FM18 processes slower then previous editions due to new mechanics such as Squad Dynamics, Scouting revamp, Medical Centre etc. Three saves have been provided this year to test and benchmark your computer under different conditions, these are as follows: Benchmark A - Starts 20th August 2017, Detail Level: Default/Default Benchmark B - Starts 20th August 2017, Detail Level: Default/Custom (Full detail set on EFL Championship, Premier League, Ligue 1, Bundesliga, Serie A, Primera Division) Benchmark C - Starts 20th August 2019, Detail Level: Default/Default (Beginning of 3rd season) To run the benchmarks, download benchmark save games from the following site: DropBox: FM18_Benchmark_A, FM18_Benchmark_B, FM18_Benchmark_C Save files to \Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2018\games Before running some tests, ensure your PC is configured for the best possible conditions for testing: PC Settings: Close all non-essential system tray icons (OneDrive, Sound\Motherboard\Peripheral apps etc) Disable any non-essential services (Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology etc) Turn on 'High Performance' power plan. (Control Panel > Hardware and Sound > Power Options) FM Settings: Ensure that auto save interval is disabled Ensure that Enable Data Collection is disabled Set processing to Fast (Less Responsive) Ensure WindowMode is Full Screen Make sure when running FM18, no other programs are running (i.e. Internet Explorer, Chrome, Task Manager, Office etc) and if running on a laptop make sure it is plugged into the power socket. After you load the appropriate benchmark save game, just go on holiday for a week, and measure the time needed for processing using a stopwatch on your wristwatch or phone. Holiday from 20/8 until 27/8 for all tests Post your results in the following format: If you are unsure about your PC specs, you can download CPU-Z for free from https://www.cpuid.com/, this should give you all the precise information you need. To find your true memory clock speed, in CPU-Z click on the MEMORY tab and check the value of the DRAM FREQUENCY field and then double it. (Example, my memory reports 1600 MHz which when doubled give 3200 MHz). Alternatively, run the following command from a command line in windows: wmic memorychip get speed. This will report the speed for each RAM module in your PC (mine reports 3200 for each RAM stick). The FM18 Computer Performance Rating can be found by loading FM18_Benchmark_A saved game and going to FM > Add/Remove Leagues. Score is at the bottom. The FM18 PC 3D Graphics Rating can be found in FM Preferences under the Match heading. If any questions, feel free to ask. Get testing! RESULTS: FM17 Benchmarking Thread
  11. One recurring problem I encounter in every FM game I have played is contrasting form when playing at home compared to away. I wanted to hear if anyone else had similar issues? I dislike having a home and away tactic and don't understand why my tactic performs so differently, I know its harder playing away from home, but a tactic that creates numerous chances and scores 3 goals per game on average at home, but struggles to muster 1 away from home does not make sense to me. In FM18 i would regularly go unbeaten at home, my best season saw my side get 18/19 wins at home in the league with 1 draw, contrasting to my away form using the same tactic, I recorded a record of 5 wins, 7 losses and 7 draws which is abysmal form away from home for a team dropping only 2 points at home. Tactics: I usually play 4231 with inside forwards, high pressing tactic looking to attack opponents, most recently managing Liverpool in FM19, using a slightly adapted "gegenpress" tactic. I would always expect the home record to be better than the away record, however It really bugs me that an incredibly effective tactic is almost useless on away days forcing me to adopt a second tactic to use on all away games. Using a different away tactic is my pet hate and does not truly reflect real life. Teams like Man City and Liverpool apply the same blueprint in most games to equal effect whether it is home or away. Of course playing away from home, the home side might be more adventurous than they would visiting a ground like Anfield, so I would expect a few more goals to be conceded on the counter etc, especially when playing a high line. However the volume conceded and overall performance in comparison to home games with the same tactic just seems to drastic to me.
  12. Please help! I have an Asus RoG with Geforce GTX which says I should have 5 stars but after the update, the match engine is so laggy it doesn't really work. In Geforce experience it can not find the game, it is not support yet. Before the update, the game worked and now on the days between matches it works normally but during matches, the mouse and everything is about a second or two behind. Please help!
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