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  1. Bit random this, but was listening to another Arsenal and Arsene Wenger discussions on the radio and it got me thinking about that scenario and FM... I ended up asking myself if I could think of a save where I ever outstayed my welcome, where my team were consistently under performing (and by that I mean not winning the league, as I am not sure finishing top 4 for however many years can be classed as under-performing, but I am not an Arsenal fan, so cannot really comment), but because of my history with the club, I stayed in the job... the board wouldn't sack me, fans still loved me etc. The answer, I don't think I have. If I did a good job for 3 or 4 seasons, I found it less and less likely that I would end up having a bad season. I cannot imagine many FM experts on here ever experiencing anything like it either, but interested to know if anyone ever stuck around and had an Arsene Wenger type situation? Outstayed their welcome so to speak...? I was in charge of Celtic on either FM09 or 11 (cannot quite remember), one of the longest saves I've ever had, and 1 season out of the 10 odd I had with them, I didn't win the league, Rangers become resurgent under Rafa Benitez (Really, you say...? Yes...) and beat me in both Derbies meaning they won it and I had not met expectations... however I kept my job and carried on for another couple of seasons. That's about as close as I've ever come to ruining a legacy I had built up or left from once being invincible, to the club not really being bothered I had left, but at the same time happy to stick by me...
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