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Welcome to the Ultimate Legends & Stars 1880 - 2019 * Accurate ratings and statistics due to extensive research and testing, every player is correctly coded, no stats are left to the computer to generate so you don't get lots of players with inaccurate ratings for vital statistics. Every single legend and star is tested prior to release to ensure they play exactly like their real life counterparts. This Database covers the whole of Football History since 1880-2019 and has been produced every year since 2014. It is the most accurate and best quality and most in depth Legends Database ever produced for Football Manager and has been since FM14 * The whole game is re-coded from top to bottom. No player is released into the game until fully researched and fully tested. This is the ULTIMATE LEGENDS GAME! More Legends and More Stars than ever before! The Ultimate football show on Earth, A diamond generation, where every star or legend since the 1880's to the present day is back and ready to play. What would happen if every top club had their best 25 players from all time, available to them for selection? If those same clubs had their most influential Chairmen and most famous managers at the helm? Who would win? What would happen? We are about to find out exactly that! Can you defeat the Total Football of Ajax Golden Generation? Can you handle being kicked all over the park by the Mighty Whites (Leeds)? How will you stop the worlds legendary players from performing? What are you going to do when they come to play against you? Can you motivate a team to win against a side managed by Brian Clough? Is it possible to even beat a Jose Mourinho Team with 25 of Chelsea's best ever players? All these Questions and many more will be answered soon......... *** COMING SOON *** Legends and Stars from 1880's to Present day to give each top team 25 of their best players where possible ensuring a balance of playing positions in each squad. This promises to be the most comprehensive and in depth Stars and Legends game ever. Realistic data and historical records to ensure complete accuracy in game due to extensive research and public opinion. More legends and stars back in the game than ever before. 25 man teams for all the Top Clubs around the world. The return of Wimbledon. The return of Ajax Golden Generation The return of the original Invincibles Preston North End The return of the Danish European Championship winning teams The return of Burnley's Golden Days between 1914-1921 and 1946-1976, Burnley have been Football League Champions twice, in 1920–21 and 1959–60 and have won the FA Cup once, in 1914. The Clarets also reached the 1961 quarter-finals of the European Cup. The return of Sheffield Wednesday formerly known as The Wednesday The return of Wolverhampton Wanderers winner of 13 Trophies overall including 3 league championships and 4 FA Cups. The return of Sunderland, the team of all talents, 6 league championships and 2 time FA Cup Champions. The return of Don Revie's Leeds United, The Mighty Whites, 3 time league champions, 2 Europa leagues and the most successful team in England in the Seventies. The return of Brian Clough's highly successful Nottingham Forest, 13 trophies including back to back European Cups and 1 league championship. The return of the great and heated rivalry between Brian Clough and Don Revie The return of Blackburn Rovers, 12 trophies overall including 3 League Championships and 6 times FA Cup Champions. The return of the Austrian Wunderteam * Mega Face Pack Release * * Top Division Clubs Greatest Managers back based on their first real period of Success or Greatest Achievements where possible* Legends and Stars in all countries around the world from 1880's to 2018 to present you with the Ultimate Legends and Stars Football Manager Series. Where possible legends will be between 15 to 21 again Most players will be at their clubs at the exact age they had joined those clubs. This can easily be checked via Wikipedia and other top online sources. If there are any legends or stars you would like to see in this database then please let me know and the relevant research will be carried out and I will do my best to get them included for you if they have not been previously researched and included already. I will be releasing previews of the teams that I feel are close to completion. Please note that these are not the final teams but will give you a good indication of what the final team is going to look like. I will also release previews of Players as the project progresses as well. Further Updates will be revealed in due course. Any Questions please do not hesitate to ask. Q: Will you be editing Legends and Stars who are close to retirement but not yet finished their Careers A: Yes, all I can guarantee is that a Legend or Star will be mainly at a club at the exact age they were at that club. Q: This Player is not a Legend. A: This is a Legend and Stars Game, so it's not just Legends, it is Stars as well! Q: What is the difference between this Legends games and Legend Games of Yesteryear? A: This is the Ultimate Legends and Stars Game encompassing 100 years of footballing history in more depth, there are thousands of Legends and Stars and this series will bring 25 man squads for all the very top teams and ensure a complete balance of playing positions throughout the squad and include the best ever 25 players to play for those clubs, from 1800's and will also see the return of the best managers. This will be the Ultimate Football Show, a Diamond Generation of Legends and Stars all on the field at the same time, a unique insight into history and very educational, this will decide what would have happened had all the Legends and Stars been alive at the same time, who would have won? Who wins the big trophies, which country had the best players over 100 years of history? This is the chance to find out the impossible? What IF??? Here it is.... So many questions will be answered... Q: Why is a certain player at this club and not that club? A: Let's discuss, and debate, then we can decide together, but there many be genuine reasons why a player is at a certain club, and equally it may just be oversight on my part so please bring it to my attention and we can talk about it... Q: Have you created this player yet? A: Let me know and either I will say yes, or do some research and then decide whether to create the player or not. Q: What happens to the original players in these legends teams? for example where will Welbeck and Januzaj be as they have no previous senior clubs? are they deleted or in the u21's? I've been trying to plan what transfers I'm going to make when this DB is complete but there's SO MANY PLAYERS I WANT The amount of amazing players in the Premier league alone is insane, as will be Italy's Serie A but I bet the Brazilian league is unbelievable for obvious reasons with young Ronaldo's, Dunga's, Bebeto's, Romario's, Rivaldo's, Cafu's, Roberto Carlos's here there and everywhere. Or more to the point could you really significantly improve any team considering the standards most teams will be at in this game? you could probably spend 60m on somebody to only marginally improve your squad, Ultimately maybe the only way to win with this DB is by being the superior tactician? A: These are 25 man squads and no more than 25 players in each team starting out. Welbeck and Januzaj are not deleted, but they and all the other originals who didn't make the 25 man teams, will now be released and available on free transfers to whoever wants to snap them up! Alternatively they may be put back to earlier clubs if they were at a previous club before. This should help lower division club managers or other club managers snap them up if they want to. There's going to be a lot of good players on free transfers starting out. You are right and it is going to be insane! Q: Will you be making this available through the steam workshop? Looks incredible and cannot wait to play this database. I'm interested in how you go about deciding ratings for individual players, it must take a lot of prep work in terms of accuracy and also how many teams are you planning on covering? A: No. I will certainly be making it available. Extensive research, Public Opinion, Full Biographies /FAN FORUMS/ Histories / Periodic Analysis / Online Sources/ FIFA, PES, Older FM Databases and Player Caps and Achievements etc. all contribute towards determining the ratings of a player to ensure accuracy and realistic stats / special moves etc.. so that each player who is recreated is as close to that player as can possibly be. All data will be as accurate as it can possibly be. It does take a tremendous amount of prep work, but I don't do half jobs, this will be as close to perfect as it can possibly be before it will be released. All of the Premiership, the return of all the successful clubs in English football, all the top teams in Europe and around the world. More teams than ever before, more legends and stars than ever before. I can't give you a specific number at this stage because this is still in development Q: How are you deciding what PA to give each player? A: I am doing a lot of research and looking at all sorts of things like stats, records, international caps, reading reports on the players, lots of different articles, quotes from public and inside knowledge, online sources and generally a lot of common sense. comparisons to similar players etc etc.. I am looking for what they could do as a player, success achieved, background, teams they played in, I wouldn't say there is any one factor but a combination of many different areas before deciding. I am very much taking the players current age into account as well and how long i think they will have to develop to their full potential and am being quite mathematical about it all. I am using my own knowledge of football and players, especially the ones i remember to compare and decided upon. Q: When will this game be released? A: This game will only be released once it has been completed, I do not have a definite release date yet but as soon as I do I will announce it on here, in the meantime, thank you so much for your patience while this massive project is being completed. Q: Are you including the achievements and histories of your legends up until their current age in-game? A: I am including the histories and achievements of players up until their current age in game, as long as the players histories and achievements up until that point were already in the game, so for the majority of these, it is just a case of updating the dates and achievements of each player, to bring them up to date with their current age in the game starting out, which is time consuming as well, but I think it is important for the game to be as realistic as possible when it is released. Where the players were not in the database to begin with, I am not including the achievements and histories, however if you wish to add these yourself once the game is released, then please feel free to do so! What I can guarantee is, if a player is at a club, then they were definitely at that club at that age and most of them are at the first top division club at the earliest age possible, so a lot of these legends and stars are young and at the clubs when they just joined those clubs, so they won't have already achieved much starting out anyway. The majority of the top top players coming into their prime, are mostly in the database, albeit long since retired, but their full histories are already included in the game, so for these it is just a case of adjusting the dates and histories appropriately to bring them in line with, what the dates would have been, had they been alive and playing at that age, today. I have done this in order to add realism to the game so that the game makes perfect sense. In that way, I am trying to make the game as realistic as possible, in terms, of achievements, histories and dates. If we had more time, I would of course manually enter any relevant achievements and histories for the newly created players as well, but if I did that, it would take too much time at this stage and my intention is to release as soon as possible! However the game still makes perfect sense as it just means for some of the players, it doesn't show previous history or achievements but just a fresh start from the age and club they begin this game in... and because they are generally early on in their careers, they don't have many achievements and histories to add starting out anyway. Q: How long have you been working on this project? A: I have been working on this project for a good while before I started this project in 2014 and it takes a bit more time, just to complete one player, I find that the longest period for me, is the research and development and testing phase of the players, in order to bring them as close to reality as I possibly can. Q: Have you considered the financial aspect and when teams start to sell their players? A: I have also done a lot of work in terms of updating the contracts of every single star and legend, and the financial situations of each club according to reputation and overall success of each club in the last 100 years, to provide a fair balance financially across the board, there will be no touching club finances in order to keep the game totally realistic and there will be no sugar daddies in this game either, so no clubs will be in any desperate need to sell any of their players. The idea of this will be to ensure that you won't be able to purchase a star or world class player on the cheap as this is totally unrealistic and the players will be on a 3 - 5 year contract starting out as well, even the youth players, who you can approach to sign, are on a good wage, so any purchases will result in compensation having to be paid to the former clubs and that is only if you can persuade the player to join in the first place! I am considering all aspects of the game and my focus is entirely on the game playing out realistically, you will still be able to buy players but you wont get anyone for ridiculously unrealistic low transfer fees. I am also making every star and legend what they are really worth starting out, in terms of today, what they would have been worth, had they been alive today, this is to ensure that when a club makes a bid for each player, they make a realistic bid which you will be more tempted to accept, this is because I wanted to eradicate the previous issues with clubs offering ridiculously low valuations of your player, and ones which you would refuse and potentially upset your player. The way that this game has been done, will hopefully wipe this issue out and mean that you get complete value if you decide to sell a player. Finally as the top top teams have a full squad of 25 of their best ever players with a complete balance of each playing position, no manager will be in any desperate need to fill certain positions starting out and therefore you can take a more relaxed approach to the transfer market and bide your time until the right player at the right price comes along! Also bear in mind that value is relative to current ability, potential ability and current age etc.., and as a lot of these legends and stars are young, there will always be players available to buy and at a reasonable price as well.. albeit a completely realistic one given the players age and abilities and the countries in which you are purchasing in so you might find some bargains in places like Hungary or the lower divisions in Germany. Q: I think this player is overrated and this player is underrated. A: I have taken many different factors into account before rating each player. Whilst I am happy to discuss the ratings, I will only be making adjustments if I agree after discussing that changes need to be made. I am not rating players by comparison, as every player is an individual and has unique overall skills and abilities, no two players are the same, they are all unique to themselves and should be treated as such, of course comparisons are bound to be made but that is not how I have gone about creating each player, and whilst there is a certain amount of creative freedom, it is important to also remember that you have to work within the confines of the ratings system to give as full an overall picture of a players abilities and skills as possible, it is not possible to get every single player perfect, but the aim is to get as close as possible, to try to bring that player as close to reality as possible. I take full responsibility for the ratings of every player that I have worked on, however I am always open to discussion and debate regarding this and if there is any player at all that you think is over or under powered, then let me know and I will be happy to discuss with you. I accept that not everyone is going to agree with the ratings or abilities of every single player and everyone opinions are valid and respected, but I have thoroughly researched every single player I have worked on and I am satisfied that the large majority of players are where they should be and deserve to be given their current age in the game when they begin and do remember that these ratings and statistics are recommend from heavy research including FIFA/PES/FM Articles, Online Media, Reports. Etc Etc ...
Hello, FM fans! I've been using my self-isolation productively and have re-created the Busby Babes. They replace 2020's Man Utd in-game and it's a fairly accurate recreation of the side at the end of 1956-57, the team's last full season before the Munich disaster. I'm really excited to share this because United's history is a big part of the myth around the club and creating this side makes me feel like I'm bringing them back to life in some small way. I've had to take some liberties along the way, but here's an idea of what I was going for... The club has a full compliment of staff, directors and players from the first team down to the U18's. There's no "W-M" in football now, so I've gone for a default 5-4-1 which sacrifices an AMC for the sake of an extra DC, but feel free to use whatever tactic you want. Some player positions don't really translate into the modern game, so for some I've opted to give them either more defensive or a more attacking set of attributes, and for others I've allowed them to have more positions on the pitch and versatility. Included some players/staff at the club who weren't strictly there on 1st July 1957 such as Harry Gregg and Jack Crompton, but it makes sense to add them in from the start for the sake of gameplay. Some staff roles are combined as clubs seemed to have been run by about 10 people back in the day, unlike now. Edited histories of competitions such as the English Premier League, Champions League, etc, in order to give the side more historical context. Players and staff have full histories as far as I know them from my research. Attributes etc are my own opinion. I'm a United fan, so I've probably romanticised a little, but when Bobby Charlton is telling you Duncan Edwards is the only player who made him feel inferior, then he's just got to be a God-tier player. Club records, affiliates, rivals and legends have been edited, although some of them don't register in the game. I'm not sure why, must be a quirk of the editor, but I'm afraid you'll have to suspend your disbelief for some of them. Download here! The Busby Babes.fmf If you don't know, put this file in your "editor data" folder located at "Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2020\editor data" Potential issues: The owner of the club tends to retire in the 1st season and it's a bit of pot luck as to who takes over. If you leave the AI to run United, Busby sometimes spends like a maniac. I've reduced United's budget to combat this as well as messing with his tendencies, but just so you know! Man Utd, I mean the real one. At first, I released all of the players/staff on frees, but it didn't have the right feel. Instead, they're a fake team with no division called "Man Red" with a 90 year transfer embargo. It wasn't perfect, but it works. I've defaulted "staff responsibilities" to roughly what they would've been back then, so you will likely want to alter these if you take over, depending on how you like to play FM. This database is best paired with 2 custom "edt" files that will allow the addition of real-life youth players to come through the club's youth intakes in the following 5-6 years, as well as a more realistic board takeover (although for the takeover, it's hit and miss as to whether it works). be_a_newgen.edt future_chairmen.edt Place these files into "Steam\steamapps\common\Football Manager 2020\data\database\db\2040\edt\permanent". If it asks you to over-write the existing files there, say yes. (you might want to back them up first) Enjoy! If you have any feedback, good or bad, please let me know below. Edit 31-Mar: Added 4 players; Ivan Beswick, Bobby Allen, Bryce Fulton and Peter Jones, and amended Jackie Hennessy's position following a chat with Tony Parks, also amended Albert Scanlon in line with a comment in this thread. 1-Apr: Updated Duncan Edwards's leadership attribute, slightly altered his position and improved Jackie Blanchflower's ability as an AMR
The most in-depth Legends Game ever produced for Football Manager has been released. It is not free content because of the amount of time and effort put into producing it. I value my time. It is not for Sale either. Message me and I will tell you how you can obtain the full database & facepackFull Teams of Legends and Stars with 25 players or more including managers and chairmanAustrian Wunderteam - Fussballklub Austria WienBlackburn Rovers - They won the PremiershipBolton Wanderers FulhamLeeds - Don ****n' Revie and his Dirty Dirty Leeds of the 70'sLeicesterMiddlesbroughPreston North End - The Double Winning Champions of 1888-1889WatfordEverton Aston VillaNewcastleNottingham Forest - Brian Clough and Back to Back European ChampionsSheffield Wednesday - A giant has AwokenSunderland - The Team of All talents from the early 1900'sTottenham - Bill Nicholson and they did the Double in the Sixties - Jimmy GreavesLiverpool - The best of the decades - including the 80'sChelsea - The 70s and the rest of the best of the kings road clan including Chopper HarrisArsenal - The Invincibles are back plus the best of the restManchester United - The best of all the decades Manchester City - Still filthy rich and Oil Laden.PortsmouthWimbledon - The real Wombles are back and they are The Crazy Gang led by WiseNorwich - Don't mess with these CanariesWolves - Steve Bull and coSouthampton - Ever wonder if they hadnt sold all their stars?West Ham - See Above oh yea Bobby Moore leads this teamMonacoLyonPSG Bayern Munich Ajax - Total Football ReturnsPSV AC Milan Roma Inter MilanJuventusThe Grande Torino FiorentinaFCP - PortoSLB - BenficaSporting LisbonAberdeenCelticRangers HeartsInternational Team - Hungary & The Mighty MagyarsAtletico MadridBarcelonaReal Madrid - The GalacticosRiver Plate - LA MAQUINAInternational Team - The Uruguayan World Cup winning team of 1930 and 1950International Team - The Danish 1992 European Champions.The rest of the teams have legends and star, they may indeed have a lot of them, but just not full teams of at least 25 or more. Over 3000 Legends & Stars since 1880 right up to 2017Full Face PackA fully enjoyable FM Experience - FM in HARD MODE!