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  1. Hello, I want to share my tactical approach with Leeds United and ask your advice for possible improvements Current Situation So far we're doing very well with 1. in the Championship and win 5 matches out of 7. Player Statistics Goals Patric Bamford 5 (league leader), Pablo Hernandez 3, Kalvin Philips 2, Helder Costa, Stuart Dallas 1 Assists Pablo Hernandez 3 Mateusz Klich 2 Helder Costa, Jacke Clarke, Kalvin Philips, Luke Ayling, Gaetano Berardi 1 My Tactical Approach In posession: I want all team to support attacks so positive mentality I want possesion football, so shorter passing and PoD I use positive mentality because I want to give Pablo Hernandez (my most talented createtor) big space to operate Transition/Out of posession I want to get ball as soon as possible so High Press and Counter If opponent can play behind my defence I change Prevent GK distribution and change Higher defensive line to Standart Player Instructions Pablo Hernandez -> Roam From Position to give him more freedom Helder Costa -> Get further forward to use his speed I have some thougts and questions about my tactic: I know that generally #10's work with #9's. Pablo Hernandez is my absolute #10 but when I use him with my Advanced Forwards Tyler Roberts and Eddie Nketiah both of them play bad, so I'm ussing another #10 Patrick Bamford as DLF-Su, any idea? When I see Leeds Squad my first thought about scoring goals was using Hernandez's passing, and my right side's crossing ability (Clarke & Ayling), and using Helder Costa's pace (Accelaration 16, Agility 15, Pace 15) and exploit left side of the opponent, but I score only 1 goal with this approach, any advice? Generally my opponents positioned themselves as above so hard to make this happens and my only solutions is makeing my fullbacks WB-su and overlap both sides to strech them, any idea on creating space? Thank you,
  2. Intro Each year I like to try and re-create real-life tactics in the game. This year, given how successful Marcelo Bielsa has been in the Championship, I’m surprised I haven’t seen dozens of Bielsa based threads on this forum (If there have been then I must have missed it, sorry). Bielsa is such an interesting manager to me and in some ways seems more like a mythological figure than a real person. His fellow managers have such high praise for him (Pochettino, Guardiola, Simeone, etc). Managers who have had a lot more success than Bielsa. Yet, when given the chance, they heap praise upon him and call him the best. The reason for this is because he is a true football man. His life is nothing without the sport. He is also extremely ambitious and demands a lot from his players. It’s safe to say that his ideas and work rate alone have gained him a reputation as being one of the best managers in the world. Please join me as I attempt to re-create his philosophy as best I can on FM 2019. In this opening post, I will just be discussing the basic ideas surrounding his playing style. Followed by pre-season analysis, training regimes, finding the right players and more. Also just wanted to mention I will be primarily focusing on how his Leeds side plays only. Save background: I’m in the year 2036 and I had recently been managing Newcastle. We won everything in the five years I was there and decided to resign and look for a new challenge. During that same time I was holidaying through waiting for teams to sack their manager, I saw O-zil’s old threads popping back up here on the forum. After looking through, I remembered he attempted the Bielsa philosophy but the thread never seemed to progress anywhere. I found that particular old thread and was reading through it realizing almost immediately that I wanted to try it myself. Bielsa has had great success with Leeds in real life even though they seem to be falling off as of late but the fact he has them competing for automatic promotion (at the time of writing this) is a testament to his managerial skills. In my save, Leeds are still in the championship and are a struggling mid-table side. A similar situation to when Bielsa took them over. They sacked their manager midway through the 2035-36 season and I agreed to join them after the season ended so I can start with a fresh squad. So here we are. Noticeable Characteristics Of Bielsa’s Philosophy: Positional Fluidity: He is known for putting players in positions we aren’t used to seeing. It’s common to see players filling in for others and swapping around. Ex) Vidal playing LWB for Chile. Gary Medel as CB. Or even this year, playing Kalvin Phillips as RCB in a 3-4-3 formation. He is also known for playing fullbacks in a back 3 because he thinks they are ‘better able to carry the ball’. Intense Pressing: Bielsa’s special. He’s known for his teams ferocious pressing and intensity. You must be physically fit to play for him. Keep Possession: He likes his players to be technically talented as well. He has Leeds passing it short and quick for the most part. That's not to say there will never be direct passing. I just want to play how Leeds play currently and keep it short to dominate possession. Tactic Base Shape: Defensive shape (A rough 4-1-4-1): In Possession Shape (3-3-1-3): Ignore the team fluidity in the second screenshot. It only changed because I changed the players' positions around for the sake of showing how I want to look in possession. Team Instructions: This is a very general view of how Leeds play. We are going to try and adapt the key components of how Leeds has been playing this season. 1) Intense Pressing 2) Positional Fluidity 3) Short Quick Passes 4) Majority of Possession and 5) High Energy Mentality: Attacking “This mentality is best employed for matches where the team are favorites to win and expect to dominate possession in the opponent’s half. It aims to exploit space in the final third by employing a fast tempo and more direct passing. If the team has a high chance of losing the ball by attacking, they would, however, opt to recycle the ball to retain possession. It focuses heavily on getting players forward and into space and allows them the creative freedom to express themselves.” Team Fluidity: Very Fluid All players must defend as a unit and attack as a unit. Very similar to Total Football in that regard. I'd also like to see the players fill in and swap with each other. Roaming in a way but disciplined. Also, the fact that we have chosen Attacking mentality I don't really want to have players on attacking duties. I'll let the overall team mentality determine how attack-minded they will be. In Possession: Much Shorter Passing Play Out Of Defense Work Ball Into Box While reading about how Leeds plays and watching a few matches myself. They like to keep possession and the stats show they have the highest possession percentage in the Championship. They also tend to make quick short passes on the floor; hence ‘much shorter passing’. Although, I didn’t want to add too many possession team instructions as it could become overkill and just complicate things. So, for now, I’m going to start with this and see how we play. They also use width to their advantage but I opted to leave the width as it is since playing with attacking mentality already has it preset to standard. In Transition: Take Short Kicks Distribute to Center- Backs Counter Counter Press Bielsa has Leeds transitioning very quickly whenever they regain possession. And when they lose possession... we already know how intense their pressing is. The keeper instructions is to attempt to stop him from booting the ball down the field and immediately giving away possession. Out Of Possession: Much higher defensive line Much higher line of engagement Extremely Urgent Prevent short GK distribution Use offside trap These are the ‘Gegenpress’ default instructions. He requires his teams to press like madmen so we will start with these. Crucial Player Attributes: First Touch Passing Anticipation Determination Decisions Teamwork Work Rate Acceleration Pace Stamina Natural Fitness The tactic will be very demanding on the body and mind so while there are plenty of important attributes, these are an absolute necessity. You simply cannot play for the club if you are sub-par in any of the above-listed attributes, doesn’t matter how skilled you are. Talent is nothing without hard work. Position Overview: Center-backs: Need to be comfortable with the ball at their feet. Capable of playing simple and not panicking and booting the ball up-field. The team mentality will affect their passing so I may look to further adjust their individual player instructions if they aren’t skilled enough. And it wouldn’t be a true Bielsa tactic unless I at least try to play full backs in the back line. Or even cm’s in the wingback role. Depending on their attributes, obviously. Wingbacks: Need to provide me with width and also comfortable with the ball at their feet. They will have the freedom to underlap and overlap past the wingers in order to stretch the defense out and open up space. Defensive Midfielder: This is Kalvin Phillips position and I see him described as the ‘heartbeat’ of the team. He shields the defense when out of possession. And when in possession, slips between the two CB’s. He will see a lot of the ball. We will basically be looking for a player who plays like Busquets but has the work rate of Kante. Should be easy… Right Center Midfielder: When in possession he will be in line with the two wingbacks to form our second row of 3 (although the wingbacks will push forward as we advance up the field) and will assist the three center backs in maintaining possession. He will be our deep screen for the back three. Left Center Midfielder: He will essentially turn into an Enganche. Our main playmaker in the team who attacks forward and takes up the position of a traditional ’10’ when in possession. A ‘hook’ for the attacking moves. Wingers: Will play out wide in order to stretch the opponents and create “overloads in the wide spaces with the wing backs”. They are also expected to attack the spaces the striker creates for them by dropping deep. Ideally, I would prefer them not to have to touch the ball too much until we are in the final third. Depending on the opponent, the wingers could turn into Inside Forwards and the wing backs could turn into IWB’s. Again this depends on the opponent and how they are set up. Striker: He is the first line of defense and must press hard. He regularly drops deep to pick up the ball dragging the center backs out of place leaving space for the wingers to exploit. Our striker must be competent at passing and holding the ball. Must also be capable of getting himself into position to receive a pass. Squad View: The first team had 34 players when I first joined. That is way too many players for my 8 man coaching staff to manage so I will be looking to sell and loan if we cannot sell. I want every one of my players to have at least a 12 in every core attribute listed. But since it's my first season and I don't have any wage budget remaining, I will cut some players slack if there are one or two attributes they don't live up to expectations. According to my coaches, my best player is my right back Lazmi. Unfortunately for him, his work rate is 9. He has no future at this club plain and simple. My wide players are going to be doing a lot of running and I can't have any slackers holding us back, doesn't matter how many gold stars you have. One weak link in the chain can cause a break and it's not a risk I want to take. Misc. Information: When I was hired the board asked me to develop players using the youth system so I will also look to do that to the best of my abilities. Leeds actually have very good facilities in my save so it’s definitely possible. Difficult, but possible. As if trying to replicate El Loco’s tactics wasn’t hard enough haha… Bielsa relies heavily on opposition scouting reports. In order to replicate Bielsa’s style fully I need to bring in and expand the clubs analyst department. I have to make sure my scouts bringing back opposition reports are reliable. Preparation is key. Given he also spends A LOT of time on the training ground I feel it wouldn’t be a proper Bielsa replication unless I at least attempt to make training programs for my team. Up to this point, I have avoided the new training system entirely but will have a go at it for this save. I didn’t really touch upon it but Leeds have taken a lot of long shots this season. It’s not something I plan on trying to implement because long shots feel somewhat broken this year on FM. As the squad quality improves I will also focus on the attacking players’ flair or ‘gambeta’ as Bielsa calls it. He likes his players to improvise and having higher flair rating improves a players unpredictability. As the squad quality improves I will also focus on the attacking players’ flair or ‘gambeta’ as Bielsa calls it. He likes his players to improvise and having higher flair rating improves a players unpredictability Online Resources: https://totalfootballanalysis.com/head-coach-analysis/marcelo-bielsa-leeds-united-tactical-analysis-statistics https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/19/Show/England-Leeds#team-squad-stats-summary https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/news-gossip/417508/marcelo-bielsa-leeds-roofe-phillips-klich/ The next post will be how we got on in pre-season and I will show any adjustments I think are neccessary. The goal is to play how Bielsa dreams, so realistically it will be difficult but I want to try and get as close to it as possible.
  3. I'm using my 1991-1992 database that I made for Football Manager 2016, which you can download HERE. It is the summer of 1991. The English top flight is Division One. There is no such thing as the Premier League and never will be. Arsenal are the reigning Champions of England. I have just taken charge of Leeds United, who finished fourth last season, which is a fantastic achievement for a newly promoted club. This season the aim is to bring home the title for the first time in 18 years. For a preview of all the Division One teams check out THIS THREAD. Here is my squad: I feel like I have a good back room team in place and have no plans currently to make any changes: Here are some key players in my squad: TONY DORIGO: A true flying wing back, there are few better in the role than Dorigo. With a target man like Lee Chapman up front, service from the wings will be crucial. Dorigo will be expected to contribute as much going forward as at the back. CHRIS FAIRCLOUGH: A centre-back renowned for his man marking abilities, Fairclough is 27 years old, and hasn't quite managed to meet the expectations that many had for him as a youngster. I want to change that. STEVE HODGE: A versatile midfielder with a wealth of experience and 24 England caps. He has that priceless knack of popping up with a goal at crucial moments. JOHN LUKIC: A goalkeeper that can consider himself unlucky to have not been capped by his country yet. He is in his second spell at Leeds after picking up a title winners medal as Arsenal's first choice 'keeper. GARY McALLISTER: A classy midfielder with great vision and an equally great range of passing. He also has an eye for goal and is a set-piece specialist. GARY SPEED: One of the most exciting young talents in the country. A versatile midfielder who is quick, can dribble, cross, finish and has a great leap and heading ability. If a right winged cross evades Lee Chapman, don't be surprised to see Speed arrive from the left wing and get on the end of it. MEL STERLAND: For Sterland, see Dorigo. There are few right backs I would rather have. He will get up and down the right flank all day, and provide great crosses for Lee Chapman to stick his head on. For a fullback, he also has a great eye for goal. GORDON STRACHAN: My captain and a man who's energy and stamina belie his advanced years. A born leader and last season's Football Writer's Player of the Year. ROD WALLACE: A young striker with great skill and pace and a world of potential. I think he could form a great 'little and large' combination with Lee Chapman. CHRIS WHYTE: Classy experienced centre-back. DAVID BATTY: A tenacious midfielder that allows more creative players around him to flourish. Not that Batty himself is simply a ball winner, he is just as good in possession as he is at winning possession. ERIC CANTONA: A mercurial, temperamental talent, who's career is in danger of going off the rails. This is his chance to fulfil his enormous potential. LEE CHAPMAN: A striker with clearly defined strengths and weaknesses. Play to his strengths and he will bag you goals, as evidenced by his 31 goal haul last season. It basically comes down to this - get crosses in the box and Chapman will get you goals. In my squad I have some experienced campaigners in Chris Kamara, Mervyn Day, John McClelland, Andy Williams, Carl Shutt, Bobby Davidson and Imre Varadi. Here are our most promising youngsters: DAVID WETHERALL: JON NEWSOME: GARY KELLY: NOEL WHELAN: Here's our pre-season schedule: We'll take a look at how pre-season went in my next post.
  4. Some of you may remember the 1991-92 database I posted about six months ago. Well, I've since fleshed out the database and added graphics packs. Read more and download here: FOOTBALL MANAGER 1991/92 I'm a massive Leeds fan and that's why I made this DB. I always wanted to play an FM game featuring the Leeds title winning team so I made it happen. In this world the Premier League will never happen. So, obviously, I'm managing Leeds and aiming to replicate reality and bring home the title in my first season. Here's my squad: Reserves: Youths: Here are my key players: My main team will look something like this: Lukic Sterland Fairclough Whyte Dorigo Strachan McAllister Batty Speed Wallace/Cantona Chapman John Lukic isn't the best 'keeper in the league, but he is definitely in the upper tier. He's fresh off being Arsenal's number one as they claimed the title. We have great width in the side, with the experienced Gordon Strachan and promising youngster Gary Speed on the wings, and wing backs Mel Sterland and Tony Dorigo overlapping at every opportunity. The service from the flanks will be crucial, because Lee Chapman is an old fashioned target man who thrives off good crosses. While not blessed with great technical ability, Chapman knows where the goal is, and he did, in fact, top score in Division One last season. Alongside him I have two very different options - the speedy Rod Wallace offers a great little and large option, while the mercurial Eric Cantona has all the ability in the world, but a temperament that is suspect at best. In the heart of the defence, Chris Whyte and Chris Fairclough are solid if unspectacular. The central midfield is, in my opinion, as good as anything in the division. Gary McAllister has the vision and ability to change the game in a split second, while David Batty's tough tackling and efficient distribution allows the more attack minded players to flourish. McAlliser, Dorigo and Sterland are all great set-piece takers. In reserve I have some old pros in Chris Kamara, Glynn Snodin, Carl Chutt, Imre Varadi, John McClelland and Bobby Davison. I also have promising young players in David Wetherall, Jon Newsome, Simon Grayson and Mike Whitlow. In the youth team, Noel Whelan and Gary Kelly are the standout prospects. Another key member of the squad is midfielder Steve Hodge, 24 times capped by England, and a player that will be pushing for a regular starting spot. I have kept Mick Hennigan as my assistant manager, and I have hired Leeds legend Eddie Gray, as well as Terry McDermott and Ray Lewington as coaches. Here's our pre-season schedule: Obviously the focus is on building up fitness and familiarity with the system. These are my instructions: Up next - pre-season friendlies.
  5. Welcome to the Leeds United thread for Football Manger 2017. If you're looking for the Football Manager 2016 thread then please SEE HERE. As many a Leeds fan will know since our relegation from the Premier League in the 03-04 season the club has seen its fair share of turmoil on and off the pitch and since promotion back into the Championship in the 09-10 season every fan has spent each and every off season dreaming that this year could be ours to return to the big time, time to relive those glory days of old to be disappointed with a Mid table finish come each May. But this year things seem different with the introduction of a bright young English manager going by the name of Garry Monk and a number of his preferred backroom staff (Pep Clotet, James Beattie etc.) it appears that the foundations have been put in place for a real promotion push. Include to that a number of top quality signings for the championship level the team is in a really healthy position to be a great proposition for any FM manager to get their teeth into. Over the first few posts of this thread I will look to Outline the Squad, Club & Staff looking to help you all realise that dream of been the manager who takes a sleeping giant back to the big time! So first a little about the club. Nicknames: The Whites, United, The Peacocks Stadium: Elland Road, the 13th largest Football stadium in England and 4th Biggest outside of the top flight with a capacity of 37,890 (Reduced since the introduction of 25 executive boxes back in 2011) Leeds United Football Club is a professional association football club in Leeds, West Yorkshire, England. The club was formed in 1919 following the disbanding of Leeds City F.C. by the Football League. Leeds United have won three First Division league titles, one FA Cup and one League Cup. The club has also won two Inter-Cities Fairs Cups. The majority of the honors were won under the management of Don Revie in the 1960s and 1970s. Leeds lost the 1975 European Cup Final against Bayern Munich and reached the semi finals of the tournament's successor Champions League in 2001. Leeds United have rivalries with several clubs, including local rivalries with Bradford City and Huddersfield Town and national rivalries with Manchester United, Chelsea, and Millwall. A rivalry with Turkish club Galatasaray was created after two Leeds fans were murdered by Galatasaray supporters before a UEFA Cup fixture in April 2000.
  6. Hi everyone. I'm currently playing with Leeds United, for what is only my second actual save going on FM17. I'm no tactical genius, so I'll mention first that my formation is heavily inspired by things I've read on this thread: At first I didn't really know where to go gameplan wise, and I figured Leeds starting squad was well suited for a 4-1-4-1. Here are the tactic I'm using the most and the TIs. When facing a 4-3-3, I usually turn my DM-D into a RPM, and my CM-S into a CM-D. TIs remain the same overall. The only PIs I use are Move into channels for my CM-A, Close down much less for my RPM when I have one, and Fewer Risky Passes for my keeper. First season in Championship went really well, we beat the odds by finishing second, earning a spot in the Premier League. Our strongest asset was our defence, as we ended up being the best defence in the league, while only being the 4th or 5th best attack. What was a warning sign of the current situation is that we were no match to Newcastle, and Norwich was a tough opponent aswell. Now that I'm in the Prem, I'm struggling a lot. Somehow my fire power is still the same (24 goals in 16games), but I'm really worried about my back line, as we're one of the weakest defence in the League, with too many goals and chances conceded to my liking (28 goals against so far). This is what I've noticed so far: - When the opposition is building up to my box, I found we're really weak in the space just in front of my two CBs. I feel like my players run at the ball too much, and then space is created. - Through balls between my two CDs happen a lot when we are high up the pitch, and the opponent forward has easy runs in the space, even though none of my defenders are particularly slow. - We concede a lot of our goals following crosses, as the opposition wingers have a lot of room to work with - We don't have the ball as much as I'd wish/thought, with under average pass completion and possession. - We lack space up front, especially when we are in front of their box. I feel this mainly comes from my CM-A not having that many runs and impact. - Maybe as a consequence, we rely a lot on our lone attacker, who's the only scoarer in that squad. This problem was also there on the first season, as Antonsson was the lead scorer with 32 goals, only followed by a distance by Pedraza and his 8 goals. Some of these issues (mainly the offensive ones) were also true during the first season, but it was less of an issue considering the opposition. As for the Premier League, at first I thought my tactic was a bit too naive, considering the quality of my squad compared to the rest of Prem, so I've tried a few tweaks, but it didn't work out really well. On the defensive side, I've decided to lower my defensive line a bit, and I also switched my two CDs' Closing Down from sometimes to Less. On paper, it worked out a bit, as we won two games in a row, but in reality it was more due to the opposition lacks in our half of the pitch, as we got punished by Leicester in the latest game. Upfront, I've tried to switch my DLF-S to a DF-S (I don't really know why I did that, I guess I'm getting a bit desperate), but it didn't have much impact. I've noticed that his rating only depends on him scoring or not, even though I'd want him to participate in the build up. I've tried so many different things about my CM-A that I can't remember it all. I also think my RPM doesn't have much impact, and my attempts to use him as a Regista were a bit poor. I thought that maybe I'm giving too many freedom to my players considering their qualities, and they end up making the wrong decision a lot. During the games, I often found myself behind in term of possession, so I usually tick Retain Possession after 15-20 minutes into the match. I also try to switch to Shorter Passing, but I dont notice a huge difference. A couple times I tried to raise the tempo, so we could get to the opposition's half faster, but it just resulted into a 4-1 for West Ham, with only 1-1 at half time. Even when it comes to substitutions, the players coming in are pretty much useless, as they don't add anything to what's already on the pitch. That is to say that I don't feel I have much impact during the games. I tried to watch full matches to spot issues, but to no avail, as I don't really know what to watch and what the mistakes are. I don't know how much my issues are solely based on my squad overall quality, and what is on me as a manager. Overall we're not having that bad of a season, sitting 12th in the tables around half season, but our defensive weakness might cost us a painful second half of season. Anyway any advice is welcome, as I'm sure there are many aspects I don't understand yet. Btw english isn't my main language, so if anything isn't clear enough, tell me and I'll try to explain it better.
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