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Hi managers Lately i have been trying out something new, and to a sort of mixed success. I played Bari up to Serie A using this tactic 50 % of the time, but there are some aspects i'm struggling with. The idea is to use a Regista to run the middle of the park completely ( Dahoud is not my main man for this job, but international duty and Tonali still being very young forced this for now ) Next to him i want to run a halfback, that will sneak in between the central defenders and that way widen up the back, allowing my wingbacks to play very aggressively and further up the pitch. Defensively i have found this work incredible, and my issues are mainly going forward. I've asked my inside forwards to sit narrower and let wingbacks fill in on the outside. My main concerns are what role to play my CM as and what type of football to play. CM Attacking doesn't feel optimal, but i can't play a mezzala without causing assymetry. I suppose i could put the Mezzala in front of the half back maybe? Also. What kind of playstyle would benefit my Regista? A possession based slow football, or vertical tiki taka for quick flaired space-balls? My main issue with the slow pace i am trying now with Dortmund is that my wingers are rapid, absolutely rapid. And i feel like the low pace could hold them back from doing what they do best? Any input would be appreciated, i really want to make this regista/half back combination work but going forward i feel like something is missing, the movement in midfield is a bit clumsy and might prohibit my regista a little bit. Last of all, are there any individual trais i could benefit from running this tactic for a long time? Mainly for my 3 midfielders. Cheers for reading, lets theorycraft!
I am in my first season with Arsenal. I am playing a 4-1-4-1 (two inside forwards). It would usually have been Suarez for Ramsey and Ozil for Iwobi, but they were injured. Originally, I played Torriera as a half back and Guendouzi as a DLP(s). All other roles and instructions were the same. I was winning games, but narrowly and sometimes only thanks to set-pieces. The football wasn't great. I was around 6-7th in the table, which wasn't awful (everyone from 3rd to 8th were within three points of each other). Aubameyang was practically useless, and I was desperate to get him in the game more. I then played Man Utd at home. I watched the game and thought that it was possible that either the half back, DLP or both were causing Aubameyang's ineffectiveness--both roles sit very deep, and it looked like that was having a knock-on effect on the rest of the players, dragging them deep also to create passing options, meaning that Aubameyang was very rarely threatening the backline and was floating around the midfield, despite his attack role. I changed the half back to DM(d) and the DLP to CM(s) just to see what the 'generic' roles did to the team. The effect was instant--Aubameyang spent much more of the game upfield and scored a goal. The passing was more varied (probably due to the lack of designated playmaker). I still had loads of possession (over 60%), as I was closing Utd down regularly, and they were not prepared to defend some of the more unpredictable passes. I won the game 4-0, having had around 25 shots on goal. Utd had five shots, none on target. So, two things: 1) I learned that when struggling with a tactic, it might be a good idea to fill the team with 'generic' roles (e.g. DM, CM rather than playmakers, etc) to see how they move and link together, then (if desired) introduce more specialist roles slowly without disrupting the flow; and 2) For some reason, I am still really taken with the half back role, particularly when playing out of defence, but I need some advice on how to get it working properly without disrupting the positioning of the rest of the team. Thanks in advance
So mine question or a matter I would like to receive advice in is mine Half Back in high press system, I'm aware that defense wise Half Back mainly acts as a screen and shifts his position like sort of anchorman and closes down opposing player with the ball, now mine question would be would he and mine time in general benefit from setting him to close down even more and tighter marking? but that draws another question, would mine CBs benefit from close down less instruction then? if he is already closing down opposition and limiting their passing lanes would it be beneficial if CBs closed less and remained in ther spots so that they don't come after same opponent as HB leaving me exposed? Next question on matter would be how would them 3 perform in offside trap system? And final would be would WBs(FBs) take the same benefit from close down less if it is possible or would it be better for them to have more closing down so that they press higher up the pitch? On note mine system uses: Mark tighter, slightly higher def line, Offside trap, be more disciplined, stick to positions on Control mentality with fluid team shape I think those are all of the TIs that affect defence. P.S. I cn provide screen shots of current TIs and PIs of players spoken of if needed
Hey everyone, hope you're enjoying the FM 2017 beta! Unfortunately, it took less than 6 minutes of my first match to notice that the Half-Back role has still not been fixed. Seen as we're still in the beta phase, I'm hoping something can be done. I posted about this last year, so it's not a new issue: What's the problem? When you play a Half-Back in front of a flat back four, he drops in between the centre backs but the centre backs don't fan out so it's highly congested, easy to press and provides zero benefit. Example: Simple, 4-3-3 system using Barcelona Sergio Busquets, in my opinion, is the stereotypical Half-Back. In fact I'm pretty sure his role in Guardiola's 4-3-3 was the reason the role was created. The screenshot above shows Busquets dropping between my centre backs, but then the centre backs failing to fan out. The opposition No. 9 is showing just how easy to press that is. What should happen? This. It's a technique for building possession from deep called La Salida Lavolpiana - http://www.martiperarnau.com/tactica/la-salida-lavolpiana/. Made famous by Guardiola but used by a lot of top coaches. In simple terms this is the mechanism of a 4-man defence evolving into a 3-man defence, allowing the fullbacks to push forward and aiding ball circulation (illustrated clearly, on Zonal Marking) As I'm sure you can see, it's a particularly effective method of getting your players in space and allowing you to build up an attack effectively. The screenshot above is what happens when you simply push your fullbacks into the wingback strata, like so: Why is this a problem? Formations are your defensive shape. Do you really want to play a 'back two' in a league with the likes of Ronaldo and Bale on the flanks?? The wingbacks regularly push too far up, making themselves unavailable for the ball and playing right on top of attacking midfielders. It means you can't play a 4-1-4-1 variant as the WBL/R would be right on top of the MR/ML, not to mention any other number of variants people may dream up. What's the solution? The fullbacks are positioned correctly in the 4-3-3 build up, you just need the centre backs to fan wide as they do in the 2-3-2-3. Resolving this issue would open lots of very interesting doors tactically and make the game much more appealing.