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Summary: Players, especially wingers and wing backs, are often brought into crossing positions but won't give them for no apparent reason Description of Issue: (Wide) players won't give any, or very few, crosses into the box. Even when there are 3-4 of our own players in the box, the ball is not coming. Instead, the player passes back or dribbles across the touchline. Only when crossing TI's & PI's are all activated, will we see crosses and chances from them. This mainly goes for wide players such as wingers, IF's, and wing-backs. But also players who roam from their position and find themselves in a crossing opportunity will not or rarely cross. I am aware that roles such as IF are not encouraged to cross, but I didn't change anything in my approach in roles compared to previous editions of the game where crossing wasn't a problem. On top of that, crossing has always been a huge part of my tactics and this is the first year that I encounter this issue. Steps to Reproduce: Watch the saved matches uploaded to OwnCloud. One with extra crossing PI's and TI's on, one without, hence the title of the matches. Files Uploaded to the OwnCloud: Two PKM's (KAS Eupen v KRC Genk no crosses TI & PI.pkm and KAS Eupen v KRC Genk.pkm) and one save game (KRC Genk.fm). EDIT: uploaded the PKM's here as well. In the PKM's: I left out the situations where crosses weren't given when it corresponds even remotely with my tactics. In the match without crosses TI & PI: 00:20: Maehle is played out on the right side. Goes for an unrealistic shot instead of a cross. Blocked. 02:00: Bongonda finds Uronen on the left side in a crossing position. No cross. 02:20: Heynen finds Uronen on the left side in a crossing position. No cross. 02:40: A throw-in eventually makes its way to Nygren who is in a crossing position. No cross. 10:57: Heynen plays to Uronen on the left side in a crossing position. No cross. 26:20: Nygren makes his way down the right flank. Three players joined on the break and made their way to the box, as told by the tactic and their roles. No cross. 28:15: Mæhle is played out on the right side in crossing positions several times. No crosses. 37:20: Mæhle is played out on the right side in a crossing position. Instead, plays a back pass of 40 meters towards the defence. 40:45: Mæhle is liberated on the right side in a crossing position. No cross. 41:14: Mæhle dribbles himself to a crossing position. No cross. 44:30: Nygren plays out Mæhle on the right side in a crossing position. No cross, keeps dwelling on the ball and is fouled. 55:45: Uronen is played out on the left in a crossing position. No cross. 60:00: Hagi gets the ball on the edge of the box after a deflected free kick. The majority of players are in the box. He keeps dribbling and shoots from an impossible angle when he's on the touchline. 73:10: Mæhle in a crossing position on the right. No cross. 90:45: Mæhle in a crossing position on the right. No cross. And these are only the obvious ones. I've played this team in every version for the past five years and my tactical approach has never been different. I know when they should cross and when not so please don't come and blame it on 'Play for set pieces' or 'Work ball into the box'. The other match has all crossing TI's and PI's maxed out, and only then am I seeing more normal crossing behaviour. I will not list up anything from that match since I didn't pay 45 euros to waste my free time in the evening on listing when and if a blue dot crosses or not. KAS Eupen v KRC Genk.pkmKAS Eupen v KRC Genk no crosses TI & PI.pkm

Apparently FM 2020 is just not going to be unable to get this one right. I have not played since the end of December until tonight, though I had been playing and actively giving feedback since beta day 1 till then. I'm 46 and have been playing this game since the very first release of CM and this one has been the most frustrating ME I can remember, maybe because you can see the next level of immersion just over the hill and out of reach. Here is an example of what I have been talking about. (I had to crop it down and record it playing in the media player to get it down from 4K to get under the 9MB limit for the post) It crashed not long after this, first crash I've had in FM 2020 (posted .dmp in bug forums) First off, thank you for continuing to try to improve the ME. Various Match Engine (version 2039) changes including (but not limited to): - Improved one-on-one finishing - Recalculations regarding clear-cut chances - Tweaks to penalty kick conversion rates - Lowered frequency of players overrunning ball and losing possession - Improved realism of player recoveries from slide tackles - Improved crossing variation and instruction behaviour - You're having a laugh on this one mate! - Improved defensive tracking from long balls - Improved heading accuracy - Improvements/tweaks to referee behaviour - Throw-in positional adjustments - Various other balancing tweaks/improvements You know what is crazy? The best I have ever seen FM behavior from these positions was in the very first beta release of 2020! Yet the very first patch changed it and they went back to smashing into the nearest defender. Why???? Look at the acres of space Mo and Trent have to go past and then cross, or drop the shoulder and drive in past them. Never will they do it, never. And then the Inter defender slide tackling his teammate for a corner kick. No words on that. Especially Trent here when he picks the ball up, he's already at pace and the defender just gifts him the space beyond him with his poor initial movement, but oooh nooo Trent is already winding up for a blast, perfectly timed to HIT THE DEFENDER. My 11 year old nephew would've skipped right past that defender having read the space, the speed of everything happening and the options, seriously. This isn't like an bizarre heliacal event that is hard to track down, fire the game up, play with two IF/RMD/IW and tell them to cut inside, or not, to sit narrower, or not, shoot more often, or not, cross more or less, or not, cross low, pre-match talk- cross low, individual personal instructions- cross low, and they will never cross low, or none of the former, and any other combination of instructions (channels, get forward, have a bevvy) and they just continue to blast the ball into the first defender that gets near them. They will even wait until they get close and then smash it into them. I am using Liverpool not only because they are my team IRL (since '96!) but that they are the simply the best team on the planet at the moment. If I was using Rangers or Stuttgart (my other saves) one could use the 'the players just aren't that good' argument. FM 2020 Wide Attack Play.mp4 You can use the slider and go frame by frame since I rerecorded it at 30fps and you can see the defender begin his slide tackle before Salah begins his cross attempt, so Mo should have easily skipped past him. Or, has the game already calculated that Salah will cross and the defender gets the jump on him by being able to 'see the future'?

Perhaps my novice familiarity with FM19's tactics and training is my issue. I'm in just my first season by the way. But I've played Football Manager since the 2012 version, if that matters. To be honest, my frustration with the gargantuan complexity of FM19 might be why I have 8 -- yes, I said EIGHT! -- of my starters injured, including the preseason injuries with Koscielny, Maitland-Niles, Kolasinac, and Lichtsteiner(?), then other injury-prone players that whine about a Medium-to-Light training workload when the (non-stop?) Fixture congestion between the EPL, two domestic cups, and Europa League is more suited for a 40-50 man Senior registered roster!!! Well, that might be a slight exaggeration. I'll address that when UEFA's Aleksander Čeferin and FA's Prince William return my calls. Anyway, enough of my whining, right? No matter what I try/coach or what I have tried to tell my self-aggrandizing Wing-backs or Full-backs who think they can cross with an Attribute of 12 or less, nor HOW MANY TIMES I tell them -- or select in any Tactics > In Possession, whether it's Very Attacking, Attacking, Positive, or Balanced, AND Individually tell them "CROSS LESS OFTEN DAMN IT!!!" -- they persist in bludgeoning their opponent/opposite!!!! I swear on my grandmother's BDSM dungeon, I think Bellerin, Monreal, and whomever else I must rotate in... they have to be freaky Sadists!!! Yes, I have already requested that my Wing-backs/Full-backs IMPROVE their crossing ability in the vague, General Technical Attacking Training Unit, but that takes more than 1-2 months for only an increase in Crossing of what(?), 1 or 2 points per 5-8 week intervals? Is it my novice knowledge of the hyper-complex FM19, or is there something else much more practical that can be done to STOP MY WING/FULL BACKS from pummeling non-stop their defensive opponent!? Please? Help? I must stop this 1937 radio-voice in my head constantly crying... Back to our programming here, can anyone suggest a solution to STOP my crappy WB's and FB's from their sadistic habits? Many thanks!

Has anyone got an effective corner tactic that they are using in their saves? Screenshots will be helpful!

Into my 5th season with Young Boys and each season a reoccurring issue is that I’ve had the issue of not converting enough touches into goals (see the picture attached) - 195 touches and only 4 goals seems crazy! I play a 4-2-3-1 tika taka style where I dominate possession (see picture attached) Can anyone help in addressing this issue? I have changed training in the past in terms of adding in more chance creation and conversion but doesn’t seem to have that much effect    Thanks!

Into my 5th season with Young Boys and each season a reoccurring issue is that I’ve had the issue of not converting enough touches into goals (see the picture attached) - 195 touches and only 4 goals seems crazy! I play a 4-3-2-1 tika taka style where I dominate possession (see picture attached) Can anyone help in addressing this issue? I have changed training in the past in terms of adding in more chance creation and conversion but doesn’t seem to have that much effect Thanks!

Hello, people! I have posted before asking for advices on how to replicate 17/18 Hoffenheim in FM 18. You guys helped me A LOT and, after testing and tweaks, I created this: I've tried to not only recreate Nagelsmann's playing style, but also to adapt it to the italian way because, well... I am managing in Italy, so I focused in some main characteristics: - A pacient building focused in my DC and my DM, these two then choose if we remain pacient or if we try to be more direct; - Something similar to Hoffenheim's vertical positional play: when attacking, my WBs turn in attackers, acting almost in the same line as my Strikers, stretching the field, but still forming a back 5 when defending. Against weaker or bus parked sides, I use another tactic with my CMs as AMs and make six near the box; I am almost where I wanted to be with this tactic, but still feel we have too many crosses with too little effectiveness. Look at these examples: I think we are creating chances, making overloads and changing side quickly, shooting well, behaving very good defensively (althoug some times my WBs run like crazy to the middle of the pitch chasing a player, and I don't know why because I'm not telling my players to man mark), but we are crossing A LOT! And only having a tiny % of headers from them (even with Dzeko and very good crossers!). Contextualizing: I've started with CWBs support to have the effect of attacking with four players, but identfied two problems: we was crossing too much and when one CWB was getting to the byline, the other was not touching the box as much as I needed to also receive crossings or getting rebounds, and this way we have less people there than we should. So I changed to WB support with the "sit narrower" PI and got what I needed without loosing width. But in the support role they aren't as aggressive as I needed and not formed the front 4 line that I wanted. So I tweaked my WBs to attack and it finnaly worked as I wanted! I knew we would ending up having much more crosses with this configuration and was ok with that, because Dzeko (and Schick as backup). But I think 45, 61 is TOO MUCH! I'm also not happy with 35, yet could live with, but the other stats are frustrating me! And I didn't was capable of lowering these numbers. Tried to lower mentality and not saw any changes in crossing, so I'm starting to talk that this is a problem with the roles of my CMs and STs. Am I in the right way? What can I do in my case? (Sorry for my english)