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  1. Hello guys. I'm starting a season with Chelsea and I plan to have a team playing a football similar to Klopp's. I intend to have an aggressive football, coming fast to attack, taking possession of the ball as a consequence instead of being a slave of it. I want my team to attack mainly with the two wingers and the attacking midfielder, besides having the support of the two midfield and fullbacks. For this I have many doubts to put together a tactic that works like this. I'm in preseason and the tactic is currently like this. I need your help with tips and suggestions. I played Football Manager for over 2 years and I can never develop tactically. Sorry for bad english. Thanks in advance for your support.
  2. Hello guys. I am the current manager of Wales Under 21s and Harrogate town as well. I am currently on 4th rank in Vanarama National League. My problem is that my team is really uncertain. It can win a match in one moment and lose it in another. For example; My team defeated Burton Albion in FA Cup Second Round with a score of 8-2 lost to AFC fylde which is at 24th position in my league with score of 3-0. What I mean to say is that no matter which tactic I use, the result is always a random and its stands same for the players. You never know which player is going to play well. I lost 2 matches back to back against lower level teams with an attacking tactic so I turned to balanced tactic against another low ordet club but lost again which was quite frustrating as I am determined to win the Vanarama National Leagur title. Also while using a bit defensive tactic the team was not creating any chances so I made the team train in attack mode for a week yet their performance in attacking third was below far. The wingers never cross the ball, whenever they do, the ball is always blocked by defenders and goes for a corner (and when I say always, I am not kidding). The strikers never face towards the opponents net and when they recieve the ball they lose it while they turn towards the goal. For the set pieces, we are too bad at it even though I always add about 3 set piece sessions(defend) in a week, yet we fail to protect the net. I need suggestions specially on training part because I dont think that even makes a difference in the game Thank you in advance.
  3. Has anyone got an effective corner tactic that they are using in their saves? Screenshots will be helpful!
  4. Into my 5th season with Young Boys and each season a reoccurring issue is that I’ve had the issue of not converting enough touches into goals (see the picture attached) - 195 touches and only 4 goals seems crazy! I play a 4-3-2-1 tika taka style where I dominate possession (see picture attached) Can anyone help in addressing this issue? I have changed training in the past in terms of adding in more chance creation and conversion but doesn’t seem to have that much effect Thanks!
  5. pwak v23.fmf I've created a playable emulation/rendition of Leipzigs 4222 from 2017 for the latest and least enjoyable FM. If you're struggling to enjoy this version of FM, I recommend ignoring those who are assertive that this is the greatest match engine developed. Instead go create/emulate some direct play. I'm sure you've had enough of watching the aortic aneurysm inducing player movement/pass sequences too. For my own mental wellbeing, for my eyes, and my aorta, I've ditched the napoli sarriball emulations etc. But I can now watch the game in 2d whilst sober, so, for the first time this rendition, FM19 has become playable. No longer am I awake at night, staring blankly at the "patterns" left by the bad paint job done on my ceiling. No, far from, now I'm up all night listening to Scissor Sisters and Pink Floyd whilst watching my beautiful little dots play truly exhilarating football. The tactic: <^don't know why that video is over there, i can't use these forums properly A few results: end of season 1 chances ^ for training i usually train tactical gegenpress and attack, also make sure you're leftback/rightback doesn't have the gets forward ppm. your pressing forward is the most important player, he needs to be big tall and very horny, don't even worry about his finishing, he just needs to be horny, his finishing can be weak, as long as he's big and hard he'll get the job done download link is at the top of the page
  6. In my Real Madrid save I wanted to create a system that achieved the following: High defensive line, with offside trap and quite narrow for high possession; Intense pressing from front line, semi-intense from midfielders/full backs and not so much from CB's; Tackle hard to try to win the ball back as quickly as possible; To keep the ball as mentioned, but as soon as gaps emerge to attack the opponents quickly; A fluid front 3/4 to confuse the opposition defence and draw them out of positions, to create the aforementioned 'gaps'. So far the results have been largely mixed: The game against Manchester United we were admittedly unlucky because we dominated the play and just struggled to find that killer final ball; and this is a common problem I feel. The first leg away to Barcelona shouldn't be considered because we played a different, more conservative, system, however in the home leg we played my system. We were 1-0 down at half time and with a kick up the backsides we managed to dominate the second half. Now the problems emerge: against Valencia we really, really struggled to break them down and, similarly to the game against Manchester United, couldn't find that final killer ball and couldn't really stamp our authority on the game in regards to possession. We only achieved 51% possession in this game. The game against Girona which, on paper, should have been domination, was so, so, so poor. The first half we lost 1-0 and created NOTHING and that isn't hyperbole. Again the same problem occurred: we couldn't dominate the ball and couldn't find that killer pass in the final third. We only drew 1-1 due to a Sergio Ramos header after putting 6 men up front, overload, and go route one. We should have lost that game. Finally, the game against Bilbao was better, but not as dominant as we should be. The system: I have very few Team Instructions because I feel the attacking mentality achieves a lot of what I want to by default. Player instructions: GK: Distribute to CB's; RB: Shoot less often; CB's: Shoot less often; Close down less LB: Shoot less often; RCM: -- LCM: -- RW: Close down more; Mark tighter; Roam from position CAM: Get further forward, Close down more, Mark tighter; Shoot less often LW: Close down more; Mark tighter; Roam from position ST: Close down more; Mark tighter; Roam from position Any help or two cents anybody can offer would be much appreciated. I don't often write on these forums because I like to figure stuff out for myself but I have really struggled tactically with FM18 to replicate the play style I want to achieve within the game. If any further questions are needed, just ask
  7. Hey all, 1. Story Having watched, as a Turkish fan of Fenerbahçe, the misery of Beşiktaş against Bayern München with one man down getting tarnished, I instantly fell in love with attacking mentality of Bayern München there. Whenever somebody would arrive at byline, at least 5 options would call out for the ball in the box, effectively rendering any kind of defence useless - 5-0 was a score quite fortunate for Beşiktaş that terrible night, if you ask me. Therefore, hating 4-3-3 plague's guts that took over the football scene for more than a decade now, I wondered if I could emulate Bayern's offensive capabilities to some extent and came up with the tactic of the following layout (I am in no way any belief that I could emulate Bayern, they just inspired me that night): It is an offensive tactic that scores for fun enabling me to scoop the Eredivisie title with the humble squad of my all-time favorites, Vitesse, 3 games to be played before the end of the season. It would actually be decided with 4 matches left however I acted stupid enough to create pressure on them the rookie squad that crumbled under and got defeated 3-2 to relegation zone contenders. Anyway, crowning was delayed for only one match. 2. Strengths The tactic relies on high tempo with very few meters among blocks, recycling possession as quicker as it can in its default shape and executing direct passes, breaking up any defense so far (scored 6 away from home at Anfield, conceding 8 in the process too). I made some tweaks here and there to conclude on the roles and duties as well as player-specific instructions and am very eager to know how 4-4-2 Atta, Turk! would work out for you guys. For a quick reference, below are the Team Instructions: The tactic possesses ability to score because (1) your wide midfielders can make through balls or receive FB crosses to score (2) any one of your Strikers can drag and stretch the defence to create a chance for his partner (3) a foxy defender can mortar a direct or a diagonal ball for your pacey DLF or, if close enough, his more static AF partner. 3. Weaknesses The very same blade the tactic wields. 2 strikers. Since the defensive line is high up the pitch and players love to spread around the field although it is a Normal width I am using, I have happened to see that when your opponent uses a 2-Strikers formation, consider keeping your defenders a bit deeper and taking down the width down a notch so that FB's can act as bolstering forces against marauding attackers as you try to fend them off. But remember that those two tweaks add to your creative abilities so try to keep a balance by changing it back and forth during the game i.e. if opponent is not overwhelming you (yet), keep default instructions until you score a few and then act accordingly etc. This part of the tactic still might need contributions though - I would love to hear your "hey, popsicle, I did this and it gave me 34 clean sheets a season" kind of modifications. 4. Choice of Players First and foremost, your Center Backs should be athletes. If you have to choose between two CBs one of which is a slower guy with better attributes and a swift one with less desirable ones, go for the latter. This tactic does not claim to be the stalwart bus of Mourinho. I would suggest Wide Midfielders possessing enough Vision to spot out the right choice between a Striker moving into a channel or an overlapping Full Back. They do not necessarily have to be explosive guys though. Keep a pair of hardworking Central Midfielders that can tackle. If they know how to move into channels and kick the ball with some technique, even better. I am a huge fan of Alejandro Chumacero in that regard. Make sure your DLF is pacey and has enough balance since he will be receiving balls comparably deeper and will need to rush it forward. If you have a Jardel or a Ruud Van Nistelrooy, like Tim Matavz I have, that you love watching him score loads, he is your primal choice of the Advanced Forward. Although I have used Saber Khalifa who is very quick, in matches where I saw that Matavz was wasting too many fastbreak opportunities due to his sluggish build. 5. Opposition Instructions, Tactical Briefing and Other Crabs I am not a fan of OIs although I am not convinced that my stance is a rightful one. Since I want my Assistant Manager to take over tactical briefing, tactic may end up with OIs anyway. Watch and tinker. If you somehow fall short in a game, you can always gung-ho your squad to claw back. The tactic has a huge hunger for risk so Overload does not turn things upside down for you, if it doesn't work. 6. Training Overload Tactics team and match training pre-season and keep at it until your guys can play your mindset blindfolded. Then switch to Defensive Positioning for Match Training and Team Cohesion for Team Training to reap unity awards. Remember, the tactic is a very fluid one and it acts like an amoeba slushing its innards as necessary to move around rather than three or more blocks of specialized platoons going back and forth. I also would advise on getting Full Backs who like getting forward whenever possible. 7. Download Grabby grabby. Please give this a shot and tell me how it pans out with your team. Sorry for any obscurity or inaccuracy with the messages I tried to deliver. Thank you. "Peace at home, peace in the world"
  8. Lately I've been reading a lot about Magic Magyars Golden Team and started fantasizing about recreating their formation with a strong team such as Barcelona. I'm just afraid that playing with one centerback and halfback will leave me too exposed in back even with 2 fullbacks that always stay back. My idea of choosing Barcelona would be just to experiment if I can outscore my opponents with my two wingers, two inside forwards and Messi as central false9 or trequartista, Magyar style. Any thoughts on how to faithfully recreate this system? Is WW formation viable in the game?
  9. This is my first proper game of FM18. I have been playing around with FM18 but not started a serious save yet since I bought it. I missed FM17 completely so quite a few new features that I will need to get used to. The purpose of this thread will be to; To develop my own tactical system Analyse games to see what is going well and what is going wrong Get assistance from the FM community to improve my tactic and hopefully at the same time help others out who are starting their own saves. Team The team I have selected for my career save is Nottingham Forrest. A club with an amazing history, once conquering Europe and being feared by teams across England and Europe. Now struggling to really establish themselves as promotion contenders. The plan with this save will be to just go with the flow. If I get sacked, I will stay unemployed until another club picks me up. If I do well and get offered new jobs, I will consider them. Squad Analysis Looking at the Nottingham squad, I see a couple of positives; Great options in central defence Really strong central midfield options (Bridcutt and Osborn are the standouts) Good options upfront with Zach Clough, Kieran Dowell, Barrie Mackay and Daryl Murphy And some negatives; Lack of quality wing backs or full backs which are going to be extremely important in a system without wingers (this will be my priority) Lack of quality central midfielder to play the Carrilero role and provide support to the wing backs. Lack of transfer budget to dramatically change the team without getting rid of players first. I need to sign; 2 Wingbacks A Carrilero (Industrious, hard working midfielder in the mould of Ramires in the Benfica squad of 09/10) Eventually, I'll also need a DLP-D to give me more options in building attacks, but for now I'm happy with a DMC-D Tactical Vision So as my username suggest, I’m a SL Benfica supporter. One of the great teams that I enjoyed watching over the years was the 4-1-2-1-2 formation we utilised during the days of Oscar Cardozo, Javier Saviola, Javi Garcia, Angel Di Maria, Ramires and lastly but most importantly Pablo Aimar. I will be utilising a 4132 as I believe it will be a more accurate reflection of how Benfica actually played during the 09/10 season. It also provides me with more options to change things up in the game without actually compromising my tactical vision or system. Essentially, the AMC will push back into a MC position and his role will change to accommodate being deeper (likely changing to a roaming playmaker as I still want him to be the focal point of the team). I plan on utilising 2 new roles in FM18. I will be utilising Ben Osborn as a Mezalla with a support role (MCL). He has all the attributes to make this role work and I see him playing a similar role to Di Maria. On the MCR position, I’ll be utilising a Carrirelo – Support to try and replicate the Ramires role and provide the freedom for the wing back to bomb up the wing and support the attack which will be crucial to the success of a tactic that lacks width. The Carrirelo will be the protection to the space the wingback leaves behind. The DMC and MC positions are arguably the most important in the team. The DMC will be the ly bridge between defence and midfield. Linking up and recycling possession. Allowing the team to transition from defence to attack. The MC will be the heartbeat of the team. Whilst I still expect him to contribute to the defensive phase, more important he will be responsible for creating chances and linking midfield with the attack. He will constantly be looking to push the team forward and fashion out chances. The strikers will be a classic big man / little man combination. One quick striker capable of utilising the channels to create space and fashion out chances for his colleagues. The big man capable of dropping deeper and holding up the ball whilst the midfield moves into attacking positions. Specifically ill be keen to look into his link up play with the AMC, MCL, MCR and DR. I want the team to play with the following emphasise Aggressive closing down with the Carrilero and Mezalla and forwards pressing high up the pitch Overlapping wing backs / full backs Creativity provided by the MC and False 9 (Aimar and Saviola in the Benfica squad) Quick transitions between defence and midfield to launch counter attacks (sometimes skipping midfield and going straight to attack) Stay compact (fluid team shape to promote compactness) Inspiration for my tactic (Zonal marking analysis of Benfica) http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/04/09/benfica-4-1-psv-overlapping-full-backs-crucial/ http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/03/02/benfica-the-most-attactive-side-in-europe/ The Initial Tactic Bear in mind that this tactic has not yet been trialed, but here is what I'm thinking. I would also look at alternating the Mezalla from a support to attack role and left wing back from attack to support to vary my attack. In terms of PI's, I want the MC to push further forward to link up better with the False 9 (creating the Aimar / Saviola Combination) The Mezalla will be asked to run wide with the ball and play more risky passes The right wing back will also be asked to play more direct passes to encourage forward play The Carrirelo will be asked to shoot less often (I want him to do the basics well, nothing else, nothing more). He needs to be focused on protecting the flank when the right wing back bombs up the field. Team Instructions are listed in the screenshot above. Look forward to a constructive discussion. Next post will analyse my first competitive game. Also thank you to Rashidi for his posts on 4132 on his blog ad youtube channel. It gave me the inspiration to start this.
  10. Few weeks ago I have started a new save with Ajax, trying to replicate the style that Peter Bosz has brought to the young team. I have been playing two seasons now with quite some game fun and success (2 x league champions, 1 x semi-final UEL and in the 2nd season winners of the UEL), however until the recent european matches of Ajax I wasn't quite sure if that high pressing style would also work in real life - but we have seen it can work Total Football in a new realistic way. Therefore I wanted to share my attempt that worked quite well for me. Formation: On paper the typical Ajax formation is a 4-3-3, with a defensive midfielder/controller (a number 6) in front of the back-four and strong focus on wing-play. In ball-posession this quickly becomes a 1-2-3-2-3 (including the goalkeeper), given you 5 lines of players with lots 'diamond' options to pass the ball around. Tactics: The tactics below i am using gets me closest to the Ajax way of playing a setup. Even though Ajax is playing with an Advanced Playmaker (Ziyech) and BtB midfielder (Klaassen), it did not work well for me as these specialist roles were defensively not working out in the transition from ball possession to ball loss. But in the player descriptions below i will try to explain the work arounds i have found for this. More info on this specialist role in combination with Very Fluid mentality can be found here: https://community.sigames.com/topic/295001-how-to-play-fm-a-twelve-step-guide/ Team Instructions I let my team train on these 2 different team instructions: Mentality - Standard / Contain: here im using a less attacking mentality than expected and go for Standard in 'easy' matches, and even tone it down to 'Contain' in tough away games. This does not mean the team is playing defensive football! In contrary i must say, because the player roles are attacking minded the players have a natural tendency to think attacking - having a contain mentality just makes them think more realistic on how to attack, which is where the 'realistic total football' comes out and play! Whats very important to add is that I increase the tempo when i bring the mentality back from Standard to Contain. The reason was mentioned by Johan Cruyff itself, as he found that the best way to come out of pressure from your opponent is to increase the tempo of playing the ball around. Shape - Very Fluid: To make sure the 5 lines play as closes as possible together its obvious that a Very Fluid team shape is the best way to go. Also this shape gets you closest to the concept of total football when pressure has to be put on the opposite players by 4-5 players together. Width - Fairly Narrow: A narrow width makes it easier for the players to return to their defensive position and help each other in hunting the opposition down, making sure they get pressured. It will make the closing down more effective, but also give you better pass completion - especially with the higher tempo very useful. Push Higher up + Offside trap: On max to make the closing down work best Closing down much more: Again on the fullest, only in matches where im already ahead or can see the players are extremely tired i'll scale back Prevent short GK distr.: To put more pressure on the opposition Marking: I leave this off as man-marking makes the defensive vulrenable, but its crucial the defenders and midfield players have decent positioning stats to make it work Get stuck in: Only applied against much stronger opponents (but important to ease of tackling in player instructions once a player gets yellow) Play out of defence: Experienced this works better as it avoids stupid passes from defenders into space. Important though that the defenders have a good composure and passing skills to avoid them getting harassed and loose ball. Pass into space: With inside forwards or wingers luring at the back of the defenders this is a very useful instruction. Only in case the opposition has placed the bus in front of the goal i sometimes remove it to avoid loosing ball too much. Short passing: On short because of the high tempo. Retain possession: When start the match I have this ticked to get the control, when the match is still 0-0 at 60 mins and im having the overhand i'll tick this off to increase tempo and take some more risks Be more expressive: This makes your matches great to watch, as it give your players the ability to use their flair and instinct. I feel that when playing with Ajax this is a must and it helps them to do some unexpected things (and i havent experienced negative sides of this instruction) Work ball into box: In this tactic you will already get a vast amount of chances, therefore i found that it decreases the amount of wasted chances significant by having this ticked. Occasionally i will also use Look for Overlap if im the better team and it helps to overload the opposition defence. Whipped crosses: With the striker and two attacking midfielders often making forward runs it works well with whipped crosses where the ball comes in with more power and curl. Roam from positions: Making the attacks more unpredictable, and again didnt see any negatives occuring when having this on. Players and Positions / Instructions For my first team I have set some requirements on the attribute i think are crucial to make this tactic work best. Im therefore selection the first squad members on the following 14 (whats in a number) key attributes: Technique, Passing, First Touch, Composure, Anticipation, Decisions, Vision, Off The Ball, Positioning, Work Rate, Teamwork, Agility, Acceleration and Determination. I have therefore setup a squad view to help getting a good view on the strengths and weaknesses of the team, and im working with some minimums I require from the players to have. On the player positions I found the following to work best and coherent with each other: SK (S): With the high defensive line a Sweeper Keeper is a must to pick up some dangerous through balls. WB (S): The wingback is best role to make sure the backs push higher up, support the midfield and make sure the wingers are covered. I don't have them overlapping or on attack duty as it becomes very vulnerable and also i want the wingers / inside forwards to dribble and attack as they are more equipped. Additional PI: Cross from the deep BPD (D): Ball-playing as they dare to play directly to wingers, who can then come easily in a one-2-one situation against the opposite back. Additional PI: Dribble more, only if the stats are allowing, but it can help pushing the team further up when the BPD dribbles forward with the ball. DLP (S): The only 'specialist' role, but after testing all roles this one gives the best balance. Only thing im not satisfied with is that he still drops in between the two central defenders from time to time. Im learning each DLP to have 'Gets into opposition area' as preferred move, to give them a push forward. CM (A) (right): On the right sided CM I'm applying a more box-2-box midfielder approach, meaning i take a player with high work rate, teamwork, stamina and positioning. CM (A) (left): After trying the Advanced Playmaker i found that CM (A) actually works better in this setup with very fluid and more expressive team instructions. However to replicate some of the playmaker traits I have 'Dribble more' and 'More risky passes' ticked. W / IF (S): Wingers or inside forwards are crucial in this system (i prefer wingers to avoid cluttering the penalty box). I always choose players with high stats on Dribbling, Acceleration and Crossing. But very important also that they have decent Teamwork and Work Rate stats as the pressure push starts often with them. The Support duty is on as I experienced that this makes them less go into stupid dribbling attempts, trying to pass 3 or 4 players. I have ticked 'Get Further Forward' to get them in more advanced positions (which they lack a bit when they are not on attack duty) DLF (S): I found this role give the best balance of the striker spearheading the attack and dropping slightly deeper, dragging out defenders and making gaps for wingers or the midfielders coming in. Opposition Instructions: Maybe not the first thing to think of when making a winning tactic, but during the first season I found that tweaking did might be the missing link. Currently i have closing down on 'always' for all opposition defenders and defensive midfielders, as this puts the immediate pressure on them when my team looses the ball. When doing this on the whole opposition team I found that it caused some unwanted gaps due to defenders running out of position and through balls where too easy. With Closing Down More ticked in the Team Instruction your team already hassles opponents when they come on your half - therefore adding it to do so on opposite midfielders and attackers becomes too much. This is where the 'realistic' part kicks in, in the total football Training: In pre-season on max 50% match-training focussed on Match Tactics, to get the team familiar with this tactic as fast as possible. After that I switch between Attacking movement or Defensive positioning depending on the advice of the AM. General training I rotate during the season between Attacking (40%), Tactical (30%), Fitness (20%) and Ball-Control (10%). Results with Ajax: 1st season: 1 x Dutch Premier Division, Semi-Final UEL 2nd season: 1 x Dutch Premier Division, Winners UEL Highlights: UEL final against Arsenal, they did not stand a chance.. a great victory in the UEL away against Napoli (1-5!) Another great away win, as this tactic works very well in away games when getting some more space Last league standing, played the last 2 games with youth and lost unfortunately. Download links: Standard: http://www.mediafire.com/file/5ddp025ij77bh14/4-3-3_VM_Narrow_B9A19FDB-0129-459A-8D81-48DCA16E51B4.fmf Contain: http://www.mediafire.com/file/k8phgsqyn172i84/4-3-3_VM_Narrow_-_Contain_57E953EA-FB0A-40E9-8348-8831E7957EE0.fmf
  11. So I just won the Premier league with Palace in my first season playing counter attack. This was really weird, because the worst team i'd ever won the league with in my first season in older versions of the game was Southampton, so i think it's safe to safe that whatever has happened here has pretty much matched up with the demands of playing counter attack within the game. But the question is why ? My aim was to recreate Blackburn 1995, have a flat back 4, with two deep midfielders, and then rely upon getting the ball forward very quickly to the front 4, with the wingers putting in crosses to the front two, as Ripley and Wilcox did for Shearer and Sutton. I also wanted some aggression in the tackle, ala Colin Hendry and David Batty and Tim Sherwood. I've done a lot of analysis of the tactic now, i believe one of the foundations of the victory was the determination we scored SO many goals in the 75th + minute - if you see from the mental characteristics of the players (see image), their determination is off the charts. We also won a lot of tackles, and watching the games the amount of sliding tackles going on was ridiculous. I think determination seems to marry well with the counter attacking mentality, as well as the high team work, work rate, bravery, aggression, and the high pace and acceleration of our wide players and strikers. See the YouTube video to accompany the tactic I've attached most of the necessary screenshots. You can download the tactic from the steam workshop http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1209247153. It's also available from mediafire http://www.mediafire.com/file/czsw83zxevde2t0/palace10-1nice.fmf You also need the overload version of the tactic which i use when chasing a game, e.g. 1 or 2 nil down, or drawing 0-0 at 60 minutes. Available from http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1209309704. Also available from mediafire http://www.mediafire.com/file/hv19q2rd88u16p7/rescuetacticpalace.fmf The rescue tactic was quite important in the victory, we won a lot of points from coming back from behind or turning 0-0's into wins. Second season, I've just come back from behind twice to beat Man City 5-2. I assume part of the reason for this was the determination though, as well as the stamina, we were often far more fit than our opponents. I think having strong dynamics was also really important, and i focussed upon this straight from day one in training (see season two early season training schedules). Although we're so good second season i rarely use it. Just beat OG Nice 10-1. I'll be really interested to know how anyone else gets on testing the tactic, or tweaking it to the demands of their teams. I'm going to test it with a completely different club now and see how it goes. Maybe with out the determined players, and the aggression and pace it might not work so well ? I also made a blog post to give a little more info about it, cos i think it's a really exciting tactic https://footballmanager2017dotblog.wordpress.com/2017/11/24/the-classic-english-442-counter-attack/ You can see that it's essentially a structured tactic (which should marry well with less expressive and playing offside). It's a very quick tempo which obviously marries well with width, exploiting flanks and mixed passing. I didn't find pass into space provided any benefit though weirdly, but maybe at a club with better passers it might ? As i said we were very aggressive in the tackle, and OI's were set to the AM, but i set every position to Hard Tackling also. Obviously we used Run At Defence, although no overlapping used, as the wingers are set to attack functions.
  12. Hi Everyone, for a long time I have played CM & FM and most of the time I have stuck to playing the usual typical formations of the time. i.e 442, 433 and more recently 4231 that everyone seems to be playing at the moment. If I'm not using one of these formations then I would usually try someone else's formation from this thread. I have become bored of this and have desperately being trying to come up with my own formation to try to add a bit more interest to my game. The purpose of this thread is to get some discussion going to see if these are fundamentally sound or work just because of of the talented players that I had in my squad at the time. I have a fair knowledge of tactics and the match engine but there will be plenty of you out there who have a lot more in depth knowledge in this area, who could offer suggestions, criticisms and improvements and why. Background I have, I will admit taken some influence from Chelsea's 3-4-3 from last season both formations depending on opposition and has now evolved to something slightly different. First I will show my results which were pretty good, in my second season with Dortmund I managed to topple Bayerns 10 year dominance and win the Bundesliga, this followed on from my first season where I joined them halfway through the season and we won the Europa League beating Chelsea 2-1. You will notice I am no longer at Dortmund as I was offered the Bayern job after my success, and I have only just decided to write this post. Manager profile below as proof League Winners & League Table Below you can see my results throughout the season, we were pretty successful against Bayern playing them 6 times over the season and only losing to them in the Euro Super Cup, with some impressive wins against them too. Fixtures The Tactics Both tactics you will see here I use control and fluid, but depending on opposition I will change this. For the most part I will use control, against weaker teams I have used attacking/overload to blitz the opposition early on then revert to control once I have a substantial lead in a game and against stronger opposition I would change to counter or standard and see how things pan out. 3-4-3 So this is the tactic I started to use early on in the season with some good results. I like having the 3 Cbs at the back with a couple of BPDs either side of a CD/c, having the 3 centre backs gives us the chance to have that extra man in midfield or attack. I like to have attacking wing backs who have good work rate, stamina, dribbling and crossing. The CMs this is where I was most unsure which roles to choose I went with AP and DLP but this may need to change as our play is focused too much in the middle. I would rather our play be wider to stretch the opposition. The only PIs I have are for the IF's to sit narrower, so the WBs can overlap and offer a crossing option. I am finding though this doesn't happen as often as I would like. I struggle to get the WBs to overlap as I would like without compromising the defensive responsibilities. I also struggle to get the IFs to play as I would like. They are usually too wide and do not offer enough threat centrally. My vision is to have them receive the ball and cut inside to either shoot or provide through balls into the CF but I struggle to get the IFs to work in this way so this is why I have evolved to the tactic below. 2-3-2-3 One of the problems I found with the 343 was that especially in the Bundesliga a lot of my opponents play 4231, and having 3 CBs with no midfielder in the DM strata, the oppositions AMC was gifted way too much space for my liking and was able to pick out the run of their CF way too easily. So I decided to move one CB to DM to man mark the AMC which seems to work better most of the time. I tried using the HB role here but found that the AMC was still given too much space when the HB dropped into the CB strata. The CMs. This is where i have a bit of trouble, I have tried a variety of roles in these positions but struggle to notice a difference in play, I will need more time to look into this. I thought having an AP to push slightly forward to help support attacks, and a CMs to just sit in the middle and ping balls around, not offering too much movement away from that central area. WBs. Given the loss of our IFs, the WBs offer the only width in this formation. I would like both WBs to bomb on and attack from the flanks providing crosses and through balls, I did try both on attack duty but now with only 2 CBs this left us a bit exposed at the back. I may drop one of my WBs to FB and see how this affects play, it might give us a bit more defensive stability. Attack. CF(A) - I like the idea of the CF being the main target for attacks but not affecting our play like a target man might. I am going to look at changing this role to an AF or P role to see how this changes our attacking play (again I need more time to look into this, as another role may complement our attacking play better) F9(DLF) & SS - I like the movement these roles offer, to try to confuse the oppositions defense, one dropping deep and the other running forward from deep areas seems to work well most of the time. I have tried the Treq role in the AMC but found that he just floats about and doesnt offer enough threat as I would like and whoever played there would get low ratings and not be involved enough in the play. I am undecided which role is best for the left attacker, either F9 or DLFs. I like the idea of them dropping deep while the SS runs forward and they do contribute to a fair amount of goals, The CF is usually the top scorer but the F9/DLF is not far behind. Team Instructions I try not to add too many TIs and just let the match play out. I like to pass out of defense, I dont like my CBs to just hit it long anywhere, with both my CBs comfortable on the ball and with good passing stats, I find this helps our possession and it builds up the play the way i like. I like my players to press more and put pressure on the opposition to try to win the ball higher up the pitch. I always use work ball into box, as without it i find my players shoot from distance way too often for my liking wasting chances when there would have been a better passing option. I am a bit short for time at the moment so cannot go into detail as much as I would like, but think I will post and see if I can add to my post soon. Initially in my Dortmund League winning season these tactics performed well, but we did start to struggle to win games convincingly towards the end of the season, and now I am trying the same tactic with Bayern and I am struggling to get it to work at the moment. I will need to tweak it to fit my players into it I think. Feel free to try this tactic and see if you can get it to play better than I have. Thanks for reading
  13. Hi everyone, I'd like to ask a theoretical question. For this application, we are to assume that both teams are completely equal, and that it is only the strategies in play that define the game. With that in mind, if we were to have several strategies play against each other, which ones would come up out on top? I'm talking attacking, defensive, counter, possession, long ball etc. Take for example, attacking football vs possession football, long ball vs counter attack etc. What would win against what and why?
  14. Hey The succesfull Tweebier tactic from last year didnot work quite as good in fm2017, so I have made a few changes. Three central defenders in stead of 2 to make the defense more solid and 2 central midfielders on attacking because I need them to play the ball forward and I need them in the box. Tried it with 5 teams on different levels to make sure it works: Man. United, Cambridge, Dag & Red, Eindhoven and PSV. Didnot change a thing, no instructions to nobody: just went on holiday for the whole season. The results: Man. United: finshed 1st (prediction 3th) Cambridge: Finished 1st (prediction 15th) Dag & Red: Finished 3rd (predicton 17th) Eindhoven: Finished 1st (prediction 9th) PSV: Finished 1st (prediction 1st) When you play all your games yourself the results are even better, especially when you can scout your own players. Scouting means looking at the players gamestats first and then at their attributes. So scouts are very important to be succesfull. Get as many of them as possible. For instance: For a goalkeeper I look at saves held, and saves predicted. For central defenders I look at: interceptions, headers won per 90min For Wingbacks: Interceptions and crosses completed Midfielders: interceptions and keypasses Attackers: goals per 90min (especially the poacher) and keypasses. Look for a guy who played moren than 10 games and has at least a 1,00 goal per 90 minute ratio. This works for me every time, on alle levels. If their gamestats are good, I look at their attributes. Are the attibutes total crap compared to the level your team is playing on it is no use, otherwise buy him!!! Even if he doesnlot look that good. I started this way with Nuenen (5th level in The Netherlands thanks to the league update from VincelaBera on fmscout) (got 2 promotions), switched to Eindhoven (promotion and won Eredivisie) and switched to PSV (won Eredivise 2 times, KNVB Cup and Champions League. With PSV I only have average players and I beat the **** out of Barcelona and Madrid with my Moneyball-scouting method and with this tactic. Some thoughts/tips: The poacher is extremely important; this is your main goal scorer . Find a guy with no preferred moves. For the deep lying playmaker: likes to switch ball to other flank is very usefull and this is the guy who makes hunderds of interceptions a season. So scout on that gamestat! The one thing that irritates me is that it is impossible to make one of the 3 central defenders to go forward to midfield when your team has the ball. I think this is a major flaw in FM. Tried it with a half back but the results are mixed and your defense gets less solid. The tactic: In English Leagues Controll sometimes works better. But with stronger teams I use attack. 3232 Tweebier 2017 attack.fmf 3232 Tweebier 2017 controll.fmf Good Luck.
  15. I've been a long reader of this forum, but never really posted anything. I've read a lot of the posts here (most notably the Art of Possession Football by Cleon, amongst others) and took a few tips here and there. I've created a club on a Portuguese Premier League, using Nacional da Madeira (a very small team on FM with no budget for transfers or wages) and it took me a few years to make it a powerful club. On one of my seasons, I've managed to make a whole season without losing a match. I did a lot of experimentation with it for several seasons, until it was perfected to my liking. It relies a lot on the quality of the Wing backs (Pace, Stamina, Crossing and Marking) and also the decision making of the AMC (Decision, First Touch, Passing, Long Shots). I would like to point out that at this moment, I have a high quality team with great attributes, very determined and fast. For several seasons I played with a Defensive Midfielder instead of an Attacking Midfielder, but there was always lack of support in the middle for the Striker. So I tweaked it, and it became much more stable with an AMC. It should work well for medium-sized teams, but the small teams might struggle. Here's the tactic itself: Counter mentality might seem counter-intuitive, but it gives more stability at the back to compensate the high defense. Structured shape is great to encourage players to keep it simple. However, I do change it to "Fluid" when I'm struggling on a match, this does seem to push the opposite side to areas that they are not supposed to be. As you can see, the Defensive line is the highest possible, which congests the space on the opposite side. Width is stretched so that the players can find better spaces. The problem with high or low tempos was that the players would either loose the ball too often or just waste opportunities, so I kept it normal. "Work Ball Into Box" is due to the same reason, my attackers used to waste too many balls. I do like to Play out of Defence though, it keeps the possession more stable. However, due to the space I have at the back, I want my players to press as soon as they loose the ball. This makes the opponents rush or waste opportunities to attack. For a long time, I used to have an asymmetrical shape (just one Winger with Attack, the opposite winger on Support, etc.) but I noticed that many times, specially due to the Preferred Foot or Player Traits, this didn't always worked well, so I decided to keep it symmetric on both sides. Another thing I rely a lot is on Player Instructions. The more control I have over the players way of play, the better. So, starting from the back: Sweeper Keeper (Defend) - Fewer Risky Passes - Distribute to Full Backs - Roll it Out Goes out of the goal if necessary, doesn't waste possession, starts the attack from the wings and passes the ball to a nearby player if the wings are marked. Complete Wing Back Right/Left (Attack) - Shoot Less Often - Close Down More -Tackle Harder - Mark Tighter - More Direct Passes - More Risky Passes Keeps pressure on the wings, aggressive at the back and closing opposition opportunities, finds opportunities to start the attack and doesn't shoot as much at the front. Ball Playing Defender (Defend) - Shoot less often - Tackle Harder - Close Down Much More The Central Defenders always stay at the back, taking the ball away from the opposite attack as soon as possible. Very aggressive as well. Ball Winning Midfielder (Support) - Shoot less often - Dribble Less - More Risky Passes The main function of the Ball Winning Midfielder is to support the defenders, not wasting possession with dribbles but finding players to exploit the opposition Deep Lying Playmaker (Support) - Dribble Less - More Risky Passes Another midfielder to support both the Defense and the Attacking areas of the team Inside Forward Right/Left (Support) - Shoot Less Often - Tackle Harder - Mark Tighter I experimented a lot with this. I noticed that, due to the attacking mentality of the Wing Backs, I needed to have the Wingers more close to the center, but every time they were close to the area they were shooting from a distance. So, they are there to keep support to the Striker and the Wing Backs when necessary. They still shoot when an opportunity arrives, but not so often as before. Advanced Playmaker (Support) - Tackle Harder - Mark Tighter This is the team main creator. He's always there to support the Striker and the Inside Forwards, but also deviates a bit from position to support the midfield. Plays very close to the Central Midfielders when we don't have the ball, but is there at the attack close to the Penalty Area. Great for second chance shots, or when the Striker is marked heavily. Complete Forward (Attack) - Shoots Less Often - Tackle Harder - Mark Tighter He's the main scorer. However, many times he tried to shoot from a distance or straight away, so the Shoots Less Often does bring some stability to this. He's always at the front, ready to score. EXAMPLES: Defending from the front As you can see, all my team (except the CD's) are at the opposition side. They lost the ball, but the team is pressing straight away. The Wing Backs are coming back to their position, and the Central Defenders are ready to press the Striker right at the center of the pitch. Defending from the center Now the team is more evenly shaped. The back four are at their marking areas. The AMC is going into position to press the player with the ball. The other two midfielders are marking the opposition midfield. The opposition will either have to pass long, or stop the play. Attacking from the back/center The midfielder has several options to pass. When attacking from the middle, there's always at least two options to pass the ball. The Inside forward is finding position, and the Complete Wing Backs are getting ready to go forward through the wings. On another example, you can see that the CWB is already very high on the pitch. The AMC now has an option to either play to the Striker that has no marking, or send the ball to the wings. The Inside Forward is starting to push to the center, as the Wing Back is getting the flanks covered for the attack. Attacking from the wings The CWB has the ball. He's ready to cross. The Striker is there, but if he misses the chance, the Inside Forward is going there as well. The AMC is finding position to cover the hole. Defenders are always at the back in case the chance is missed. The problem Here is one of the problems of this tactic. Because we play so upfront, the CWB is going to mark the player with the ball. However, the opposite striker has plenty of space to attack. That's why the team as a whole needs to have high attributes on the physical side. So, this was basically the tactic that I used the whole season. It's based on attack and pressing. More often than not, my back gets a few yellow cards during the season, but you can always remove the option Tackle Harder and see how it works for you. The Wing Backs need good physical attributes, and the two Midfielders should be good at defending. I kept using this tactic the following seasons, but from time to time I had to tweak some options because the AI seemed to figure out some of the way of play (Specially the teams that park the bus). Also, the updates of FM kept me having to make some changes here and there. But if I struggle, I mostly change the shape from Structured to Fluid, and also add the option to Retain Possession and Pass Into Space. It does push the opposite team to leave their positions, and my team doesn't waste as many balls at the front but sometimes there's not much you can do. It worked out for me, maybe it will work out for you too.
  16. This tactic is strong on the attack and also defensively stable, however I believe it could be added to, in terms of the easiness of playing a ball over the top of the defense for a one-on-one with the goalkeeper. Any ideas? Tactic: 4312_8A140CA9-E85B-4095-931E-D19C7A77D876.fmf
  17. Formation 4-1-3-2 History Hi I am Shep171 long time lurker first time poster (be gentle). Back in FM 15 I created a tactic based on this formation called Cronus. For me it played the kind of football I enjoy to watch i.e. possession based with an attacking intent. It was loosely based on the style of play I enjoyed in a FIFA Pro club called Infusion Soccer. I took the formation and play style of the team to see if it would translate to FM. I also implemented the player instructions to emulate the play style of the guys I was playing with. To my surprise it worked and quickly became my preferred formation translating well in either top or lower league management. In Fm 16 I experimented with the formation trying a 433 with 3 STS, 433 with 2 Ifs and with a AMC instead of a DM, settling for the latter as it seemed more balanced and again retained the style of play I wanted. This time named as Return of The king I created a dynasty at Stade Rennais in an online career save with friends playing attractive football. So FM 17 Beta arrives and I again go with my formation from FM 16 ROTK but couldn’t quite get it to work as I wanted. So I went back to my roots and tried Cronus again and again had the type of football I enjoy. So after using the Beta period to try different combinations in defence, midfield, strikers and strategy I settled on a set up I think gives balance, stability and above all results. Be warned like any tactic it is only part of the story. You need to manage your team effectively (that part is down to you!). A good manager can in my opinion add 10 – 20 % to the efficiency of a tactic, maybe more but it defiantly plays a part in your success with any tactic. Little Wonder Mentality Attacking Team Shape Fluid (top teams) Structured (lower teams) Team Instructions 11 Higher tempo, Narrow, Higher defensive line, Closing down more, Tighter marking, Get stuck in, Exploit the middle, Shorter passing, Be more expressive, Hit early crosses and Whipped crosses. Player Instructions GK SK Defend Pass it shorter, fewer risky passes, throw it long, Distribute to fullbacks and Distribute quickly. FB L/R Support Dribble less, Tackle harder, and Pass it shorter. CD L Defend Close down more, Tackle harder, Mark tighter, and Pass it shorter. CD R Cover Close down more, Tackle harder, Mark tighter, and Pass it shorter. DM Defend Tackle Harder, Pass it shorter, and Fewer risky passes. BTB Midfield L/R Shoot less often, Dribble less, Pass it shorter, Fewer risky passes, and Move into channels. CM Attack Shoot less often, Dribble less, Close down more, Pass it shorter, and Move into channels. DLF L Attack Shoot less often, Close down less, Roam from position and more risky passes. DLF R Support Shoot less often, close down less, Roam from position, Pass it shorter and Move into channels. Set Pieces Added some set pieces to see how they go pick your best corner takers or leave to the game up to you. Pre Season Training I always schedule at least 10 friendlys once every 3 days to speed up getting the tactic fluid. Before the last friendly takes place I switch to my season training regardless of whether the tactic is fluid or not. During Season Training I use No Opposition Instructions at all feel free to experiment. I have not bothered with them myself as to be honest I am not sure how or if they affect the tactic. Team Talks To be honest these are down to you and the type of manager you choose to be. For me I believe in firm but fair, praise for good performances and a kick up the backside for poor performances. Be consistent and reasonable with both. After all if you lose to a top team in your league and you are bottom rated do they deserve to be chewed out? Maybe not but if an individual performance is low then tell that player you was disappointed with their performance. If your striker is consistently spurning chances then a private word in his shell like to up his performance or you will drop him can suddenly focus his attention. This game is called Football manager its up to you to manage your team to squeeze every ounce of performance from the players you have. Results Man Utd (just a test save) No transfers in just the starting team. Taranto F.C. 1927 (my career save, humble beginnings and all that) I started unemployed, National C license, Sunday league footballer. First offer that came my way was Taranto F.C 1927 in the Italian Lega Pro Girone C Below is there form prior to me joining. Note I changed the team shape to structured everything else stayed the same. Experience in Lower leagues has taught me that this change helps the players at this level. Form after I joined. Tactic not fluid at all so was happy to finish and meet the board’s expectations. End of season standings. Not too bad considering. Almost made a play off spot. My second season Player’s types Well to be honest the filters in scouting for position are generally good enough to find the players you are after. But in the lower leagues they are not so important in my opinion. I much prefer to build a team based around the attributes I value the most. So what do I value the most you ask? In no specific order they are as follows:- Work rate Stamina Strength Determination Teamwork After the above I then pay attention to a player’s technical ability. Passing First touch After that it then depends on the position they are expected to play. Like anything in lower leagues you have to be pretty loose on what is acceptable, but I always look for the best I can get from the first list. This also applies at top teams where I will be more demanding in what I want before I part with cash. Above all I want to build a hard working team who will give there all for the team. I won’t make any player filter, that’s up to you to put your own stamp on the team as you build your squad. Tactic Link http://www.filedropper.com/littlewonder112e7830-8e86-4f0e-90d1-fb8894609086 Final Thoughts All required info to reproduce this tactic is in this post. My apologies for the standard of screenshots, not used to all this. I don’t profess to be a tactical guru. I don’t have all the answers; I am very much a trial and error kind of guy. But what I give you I think is a half way decent attempt at creating a possession based formation that plays a pleasing attacking style of football. I hope for those that choose to give it a go it proves successful. For those that it doesn’t work for I hope you find the one that brings what you are looking for and I am sorry it wasn’t me. A big thank you to those talented creators who have contributed to better my understanding of this game I seem to spend a lifetime playing. Without them I would not have been able to put something together I think is worthy of sharing. I urge anyone out there to take the time to read the guides listed in the Tactic Building And Training Guides of this forum and see what you can come up with. A personal favourite is Back To Basics A complete Club Strategy. I learnt an awful lot following that post and owe a lot of my success to the path it led me down. Many thanks. Lastly a big thank you to those who I had the pleasure to play Proclubs on FIFA with at Infusion Soccer the inspiration behind this formation and play style, you know who you are! I welcome any feedback both positive and negative where justified, all I ask is you give it a fair go and share any improvements you think work better. Happy Hunting. YouTube Video of Taranto against Catania first season -
  18. Hello! A quick question to everyone, how many tactics in a season do you use? When starting a save i always create 3 tactics, Normal, Attacking & Defensive. However, i normally just stick to one tactic throughout the season. Is it more beneficial to use more than one? Do you have a home and away tactics?
  19. Dear members, I have made an agressive attacking tactik by reading cleons the art of attacking football. It worked very well when Im playing at home, but Im struggling winning away games. My team is top favourite to winning the league. My team is very strong if you compare to other teams. But when I play the away game its like my players dont do anything to stop the strikers or the wingers. My opponent are always aggresive against me. They score goals from the wings or they have fast strikers. This is my team formation and instructions: My best striker has an injury, but normally I play with him as a complete forward on support duties. I also change sometimes my AMR to a raumdauter. If Im playing away I use these instructions and mentality: - Standard mentality - Tempo: normal - Closing down: sometimes - Dribble less - Pass into Space - Defensive line: Normal Look at my away games: Im also struggling to different kinds of formations like: 4-1-2-2-1, 4-4-2 or teams with same formations as mine. If you want more information, please ask me.
  20. I'm trying to create a possession playing style in which the team play a mid-high block with a slight pressing preference off the ball, and play controlled football through a deep-lying playmaker before playing more expansively when an opportunity arises. Ideally I'd like the team to concentrate on playing in and around the opponents third, and exploiting the space they make if they try to pressure my team off the ball. The creative, expansive movement of my forward players would be crucial to unlocking a team that is happy to allow us to control the game. Currently I'm thinking: Mentality: Control Team Shape: Fluid Formation: Any with at least a four man back line and a minimum of three midfielders Team Instructions: Retain Possession, Exploit the Middle I'm confused because of the idea that mentality is about risk, meaning that higher mentalities make possession retention and a lower tempo a bad choice, yet with mentalities such as Counter, I can expect less time on the ball because of a more consolidated approach to defending. How can a good possession game be possible? Is my idea of playing even typical possession football? Does my setup look right? What would you guys recommend I consider? Any help will be hugely appreciated!
  21. Mediafire link: https://www.mediafire.com/download/4hwzwd7i2ofaya4 Hi guys, I'm new to this and I thought it would be nice to share the formation that has worked wonders for me in my save in FM16. I manage Arsenal, and I've played for three seasons and am in December in my fourth. I've won the following 1 Champions League 2 EPL titles 3 Capital One Cups 1 FA Cup 1 Club World Cup The tactic has proven to be very effective against all kinds of teams including possession based sides and counter attacking teams. I seem to score all kinds of goals from counters, or during a lengthy possession spell. It is very important to have pacy fullbacks who can beat their man, and that's why Bellerin and Jorge are two of my best players. Also having a pacy striker with good dribbling and passing ability as well as teamwork and vision is paramount even if he's not the best finisher around. My top striker is Gabriel Barbosa who is also a pretty good winger, and has all the qualities listed above. Another important aspect is ensuring that my AMC is playing a role that means he comes deeper to get the ball, because my defensive midfielder will rarely get forward or run with the ball. This is why I use advanced playmaker with attack duty. I don't play my AML & AMR as wingers because my fullbacks can fulfill those crossing duties. All I need is one extra ball player and one player who looks to get into the box and support the striker which is why one of my wide midfielders is an advanced playmaker and the other is an inside forward with support duty (Not attack because I need him to track back often). I also have the "look for overlap" instruction enabled so my fullbacks look to get forward and deliver deadly crosses into the box. The play out of defence instruction means the team will often look to build play from the back and my defenders will not immediately play a long ball after my goalkeeper has played it short to them. The control mentality means my team will look to hold possession, but paired with higher tempo, the team also does well on counters. You could also use an attacking mentality, it has worked for me when I've tried it, but I'm too chicken to use it consistently, even though I know it doesn't mean I'll immediately be open at the back. I've given my center backs instructions to close down less so as to avoid them getting caught out of position. This is very important as I've tried it without the personal instructions and we would always get opened up by teams with fast strikers and good AMC or teams that played 4-1-1-1. I hope you have fun with it, and please feel free to leave a comment if you feel it can be improved upon. Also feel free to look at the player instructions and let me know if any changes can be made to do better. PS: I'm a bit of a novice at FM games, I only started in 2013, and as such, my tactic may not be universal. I've only used it in this save and with Arsenal, and so I don't know how it would work with other teams.
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