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  1. I know it's quite late, with FM20 on the horizon, but I finally have made a tactic which creates great attacking football, but on the defensive side can be quite inconsistent. Can anyone give me some advice on how to shore things up defensively speaking? The tactic attacks well on the break and through the wings, but we are often susceptible to counterattacks, leading to inconsistency.
  2. ??? : Hey you! yeah you. You can be Klopp. Just follow me. t this tactic will make you Klopp. just use it. I got 7 trophies all season with this tactic. _vs 나폴리 전방압박 장면.mp4 this is how to make gegenpressing play _vs 나폴리 빌드업 장면.mp4 and it show how to build up ??? : And now it's your turn. 4-3-3 Klopp's Liverpool gegenpressing by Zacshin(Never loose).fmf
  3. I have decided to begin FM19 with my team, Tottenham. I am a massive fan of Pep's style of football, so have included some of his ideas as you can probably tell, however, it's not meant to be a recreation of City by any means. Haven't play any games with it yet, but I would appreciate it if you could make any suggestions as to what I can improve/fix, as I am pretty new to the franchise.
  4. I usually use other people's tactics but after seeing my own might Ipswich Town rip into Reading a couple of weeks ago I was inspired to recreate that style of play in FM2019. First of all, this is very high energy, you will need players with high team work, work rate and fitness at FB, midfield and up front. The aim is to press the opposition into mistakes and create chances. I was using another tactic from here (unstoppable attacking) and another from Sigames (Quantum) which were pretty successful, but since I switched to my new tactic for the West Brom match I've been blowing teams away! Ipswich are predicted to finish 20th and have the 6th lowest budget in the division. It's okay to tweak player roles to suit your squad but keep the nature of the players role the same e.g. a deep lying playmaker set on defend can take on the role of the centre midfielder on defend. I would leave the pressing forwards alone though as their instructions and role are key to winning the ball high into enemy territory. Finally, be prepared to rotate, especially your fullbacks who cover acres of distance! Team talks I always encourage unless we're losing at half time. I never use opposition instructions. All the best, hope it helps some of you. 4-3-3 Blitzkreig.fmf
  5. I was wondering what is the best midfield role for a 433? I am playing Roaming Mid - Deep Lying (D) - Roaming Mid in a 3 midfield system. Instructions are central passing + work into box @ control mentality # Forwards are 2 IF & 1 CF - all support
  6. Hi, I’m having some issue in my 433 setup. Still having also the same doubts so I’ve got to understand 2 or 3 things, keep in mind that I want necessarily use 2 inside forwards on the flanks. And now, straight to the questions: - Does this formation suits an attacking mentality ? - Can IF be both on attack? - Better use FB or WB behind IF ? In other words, there’s necessarily a relationship between a formation and a mentality? (For example, 433 suits control and not attacking...) Tnx in advance for your help!
  7. I posted a tactical update in my AEK career update thread but thought I would post a copy here to try to elicit some discussion about my tactics I use with AEK Athens. Tactical Analysis: Controlling the possession. Counter-attacking at pace. Creating Clear Cut Chances. I manage AEK Athens in the Greek Superleague OPAP. I am in the second season and the bookies don't give me much of a chance for the league title. Which is fair, given the players at my disposal and the fact we finished quite far off Panathinaikos last season. Compared to teams in the Champions League and we're given even less of a chance. The football I want us to employ is very basic. Sit back when in possession, keeping the ball away from the opposition. Draw out the opposition and work the ball around them in the middle of the pitch using our numerical advantage afforded to us by having three midfielders and three attacking midfielders. I want slow, methodical passing at the back and between the midfield. When the opposition is forced to commit more players forwards in an attempt to win the ball back from us, this is when we need to catch them on the break using a range of quick passes, fluid movement and through-balls. In the Superleague, most teams play with two central defenders, so we play with three attacking midfielders to overload them. Most teams play with two central midfielders, so we play with three central midfielders to overload them. What this allows us to do it build up play easier through the middle by making use of the extra man. Because we have this extra man it will typically pull in an opposition wide player, and this is where my wing-backs come in handy. Their job is to exploit the vacant space out wide. Whilst we typically will only play through the middle, it is useful having that option when things get a little congested. It also helps to stretch the play when we need a bit more room to work in. Now for the hard part. Putting those thoughts into practice. Playing Style As discussed we are looking to create a playing style that: Has a defensive line that recycles possession, plays with a much lower tempo and draws out the opposition. Looks to exploit the numerical advantage we will have through the central areas with short passing. Affords the players a level of creativity to pick the right passes when unlocking the opposition defence. Not being afraid to play a risky pass to reap to the high rewards. Free flowing movement, creating multiple passing options for the man in possession. Surging runs forward to break offside traps and create one-on-one opportunities when the through ball finds its intended target. To achieve this, I employ a Very Fluid team shape along with the Control mentality. I want us moving up the pitch together when we're attacking and working as a unit together when defending, we're going to be somewhat exploitable on the wings so we need more bodies at the back to protect from the crosses. However, the central midfielders should move across to cover the wings. The Team Shape instructions look like this: Tempo: Much Lower. This allows us to retain possession of the ball, without using the retain possession instruction. I don't want to retain possession all over the pitch, for example, I don't want us keeping the ball in the final third of the pitch. I want us to keep the ball at the back and work the ball around the midfield, but when the opportunity comes for a quick break I want my players to have the freedom to play a risky ball to unlock the defence. Width: Fairly Narrow. Whilst we will inevitably be narrow by virtue of the player positions and roles, I want to enforce the mantra of keeping the ball flowing through the middle of the pitch The Defence instructions look like this: Use Tighter Marking. As I alluded to earlier, we have limited presence on the wings, so I use tighter marking to ensure my defenders stay with their man when the balls are crossed into the box. This is perhaps a contentious issue, given the effectiveness of crossing, but I like to believe the fluid team shape allows for more bodies in the box and this helps keep the opposition covered. I also want to suffocate opposition attacks and remove passing options for them to force them into making a mistake. Tackling: Stay on Feet. A simple one really. I don't want my players diving into challenges. If you're on your feet when winning the ball you can distribute it a lot quicker and maintain possession rather than sliding in and losing control of the second ball. The Build-Up instructions look like this: Passing: Play out of Defence, Exploit the Middle. With the low tempo encouraging possession football and the controlled build up I want to employ, it makes sense to ask the defence to play their way out from the back. Our fluid shape allows for options to do this. The Attack instructions look like this: Dribbling: Dribble Less. I don't want the team looking to retain possession of the ball in the final third by dribbling their way out of trouble. Rather I would prefer them to look to the extra man to make a pass to, or to fire a through ball over the defence to create a better opportunity. It is going to get pretty congested in the middle of the pitch and we don't have a Messi. So this instruction should make the players look for better options. Freedom of Movement: Roam from Positions. It could be argued that our fluid shape allows for more freedom of movement. But I want to emphasise that we should be looking to move freely and draw the opposition out of position. The players need to be available for each other in order that we don't concede possession cheaply. The formation, the player roles and their duties This is the team starting formation. The defence: Our back line is fairly standard. Either side of our central defenders are Wing-Backs on a support duty to offer some width when there the central areas become too congested. My Wing-Backs are afforded a lot of space out wide due to the opposition wide players being forced inwards to cover the extra man we will have against their central players. On a support duty the Wing-Backs contribute to the through balls to the Shadow Strikers further ahead. The are instructed to keep wide, cross more often and to try more risky passes. The central midfield: A very simple three across the middle. A Deep Lying Playmaker is flanked by two Central Midfielders. I don't have any specific instructions for my Playmaker. I think the Central Midfielder role is so undervalued. It is so dynamic and allows you to make changes to the role in game if you need to as you're not restricted to any instructions imposed by the role type. They will balance their attacking and defensive duties, and are perfect for pinging through-balls into my attacking midfielders. To promote this I ask them to play more direct and risky passes. They are also instructed to move into channels to try and stretch the play a little, and to mark tighter. The attacking midfield: The glue that holds our attacking play together is my Enganche. Vieirinha. With 6 assists in 8 games and a 91% passing accuracy, he is key to everything in the final third. He will sit in the middle, drawing out the opposition, creating space for my Shadow Strikers to burst through on goal. He doesn't have any specific instructions and neither do my Shadow Strikers. So, with an explanation of the setup, here is how all of that translates where it counts. On the pitch. The Result of our Play From the league so far we dominate possession, with over 61% on average each game. This is helped by completing 88% of passes, which is also the highest in the league. The quality of the chances we're creating also translated into our superior shooting accuracy. We have more shots on goal than any other team and the best accuracy, due to the quality of chances being created. It is not just the league where we are ahead, in the Champions League we have the highest passing accuracy of 87% and the highest average possession of over 63% during games. To give you an example of the chances we create, this is from my last match. where all but one of our attempts was from inside the box. A few most stats from the current season. Most of our goals are placed shots created by through-balls. Analysis of our Attacking play When we have the ball, we're setup as you would expect. A lot of our build up play is similar to the below. I have provided a couple of examples from the same match. Goal one. In this, my Deep Lying Playmaker (Enzo Zidane) starts with the ball in the middle of the pitch. My Wing-Backs begin to move forwards and my central midfielders are looking to come and offer options for the pass. In this build up, the Deep Lying Playmaker passes to his left to the Central Midfielder who forwards the ball to the Shadow Striker offering himself (shown by the red dotted lines) When the Shadow Striker receives the ball he is immediately looking for the Enganche. And whilst it doesn't look like the pass is possible here, the fluid movement of the team creates space for him to receive the ball. Once in possession of the ball, the Enganche is facing goal and looking for passing options forward. My Central Midfielders and Shadow Strikers are all running forwards ready for a splitting pass. Already the opposition Full-Backs are far too wide here, meaning their two Central Defenders are going to have to contend with four rushing midfielders. My Shadow Striker receives the ball to the right. The Full-Back has been drawn inside now, but the Central Defender doesn't have the positional sense to drop infield to cover the on rushing players. As you can see there's a huge gap that has opened up by our quick counter-attacking play. The opposition does not have time to get back into their defensive shape. The Shadow Striker plays a perfect ball into my on-rushing Central Midfielder for an easy goal. As you can see from the above, a lot of our play is predicated on slow build-up from the back, fast play in the final third to disrupt the opposition. Retaining possession wouldn't allow us to do this, but playing with a lower tempo and the roles we have allow for this type of play to flow. Here are some more examples from the same game, in which we created 27 chances, despite being away from home. Goal two. Here again, we have the ball deep, we've moved it quickly to the Enganche who has spotted the runs of my players and manages to play a lovely ball over the top for the Shadow Striker to run onto. We have a three against one overload here, and although the covering defender manages to get back, the simple pass is on to create an opportunity for the other Shadow Striker. Another simple goal. Goal three. And this time slightly deeper, my Central Midfielder who is instructed to play more direct and risky passes, picks out my Shadow Striker yet again. Another simple goal scored by being patient, keeping the ball and then being explosive when the exploitable opportunities arise. Analysis of our Defensive play It's a lot easier showing defensive shape and play with videos. Unfortunately, SI are yet to fix video exporting for mac. So, I will highlight with a picture and some GIFs to try and show you how we are always swarming the opposition, giving them no time or space on the ball. Restricting their options before forcing them into a mistake. Defensively the shape is quite standard as you'd expect from the formation and instructions. Our back four is easily covering the onrushing attacker. The midfield three create a second wall to force them to try and pass through and the attacking three block the ball moving backwards. The only option is the inside ball (which is this scenario was cut out by my player) or a long cross field ball to the spare two on the other side of the pitch. But the ball isn't there so we don't worry about that. From the below it is easier to show the players movement towards the man with the ball. Always staying on their feet waiting for the right opportunity to nip the ball away before launching into a quick counter attack. This starts from a throw, they manage to move the ball about quite nicely, but we remain patient and when the right time comes we step in, take the ball away and then we're launching into another devastating counter attack and create a new opportunity to score. In this example, their wide player has no space to move in-field and no passing options. He is forced out wide where he eventually crosses into the box for an easy catch for my keeper. Finally, the opposition works the ball wide again here, but their wide player has no options ahead. He has a choice to dribble wider or pass in-field. He managed to find a player to pass to, but our numerical advantage is too much and again we easily win the ball back from them. The Conclusion We've managed to create a system that floods the central areas of the pitch and overloads the opposition defence, making it hard for them to pick up a man each as it leaves a free man. Moving the ball about quickly with fluid movement allows us to disrupt the opposition system and exploit the free man. Defensively, we're a little vulnerable on the wings, but we pack the defence enough to cope with crosses and my central defenders. Thank you for reading. I'd welcome any comments, questions or corrections to anything I've written above. Oliver Jensen
  8. I have started a new save as Dundee United, it took me a while to get better idea of the players and in the pre-season I have tried various formations to understand what could suit my players best. In the end I settled on a 4-3-3 with DM, AMR and AML (having tried also 4-4-1-1 and a wingerless 3-5-2 WB, DM). The formation is in FM terms 4-1-2-2-1 and roles/duties are following: GK - GK/D RB - FB/S DC - DC/D DC - DC/D DC - FB/S DMC - DLP/D MCR - CM/S MCL - CM/A AMR - IF/A AML - W/S FW - DF/S or F9 I use flexible shape and either standard or counter strategy, mostly standard though, counter so far only when away at Hibernian or in cup against Premiership teams. No team or individual instructions as default, adding sometimes during the match get stuck in and when I feel like we could gain advantage there, then exploit both flanks. Against 4-4-2 I try exploit the middle. After 12 matches I'm joined 2nd/3rd, six points behind leaders Hibernian, who every time I faced (twice in league, twice in cups, lost 3, won 1 in cup) them seem far superior to me and that makes me feel I need some improvements, also in case we would end up getting promoted to the top tier. Do you think my roles/duties distribution has some major flaws? Here are couple of my notes / observations: In defense I would like a WB/S on the right, but my players aren't really wing-back material. As strikers, I use the DF or F9 mostly because other roles are unsuitable for my strikers' attributes, I tried in a couple of matches DLF/S, but he just didn't do nothing notable and changing him into DF brought immediate improvement, both in winning the ball back, and linking up with midfield better. I seem to concede most goals after striker gets a ball, moves slightly around the central defender, shoots from about the edge of area and scores. That could depend on GK, as my top two choices are out with longer injuries. I'm unsure about the left side combination of roles, but FB/A would probably come to annoy the left winger? Looking forward to hear your suggestions guys :-)
  9. UPDATE: Finally got round to adding screen shots to make it easier for everyone to follow! Inspired by @Cleon and @Rashidi's guides and blog entries and more recently @Ö-zil to the Arsenal! series of fluid and very fluid tactical posts: 1) https://community.sigames.com/topic/352148-universality-in-football-manager-2015-very-fluid/ 2) https://community.sigames.com/topic/373859-arsene-wengers-invincibles/#comment-440604 3) https://community.sigames.com/topic/373361-arrigo-sacchis-4-4-2-very-fluid/ 4) https://community.sigames.com/topic/372887-johan-cruyffs-3-4-3-diamond-very-fluid/ and particularly this one: 5) https://community.sigames.com/topic/390163-playing-style-structure-a-modern-4-1-4-1-very-fluid/ (updated version of 1 above) I set out to convert my very structured/structured 4-1-2-3 Chelsea playing possession football based on Cleon's "Art of Possession Football" guide to a very fluid version of the same style of football. I've been trying to seriously take Cleon and Rashidi's advice in just watching the match and trying to figure out what's not working and what's working and how to create or attack space but haven't really come to any conclusions about where my tactic is working/not working. So after resisting for 2 weeks and watching half of my season's matches in full, I have come to these forums to seek enlightenment! I would like to show you how I set up initially based on Cleon's "Art of Possession". BEFORE: Shape: Structure/Very Structured Mentality: Control DLF(S)/F9 Costa/Embolo IF(A) AP (S) Hazard Willian AP(A)---BBM Tielemans---Lewis Cook DM(S/D) Matic/Mikel WB(S)--CD(D)x2--WB(A) Rahman--Terry/Zouma--Azpilicueta GK Courtois TIs: Lower tempo, Wider, Higher defensive line, Close down more, Tight Marking, Prevent Short GK distribution, Shorter passing, Play out of defence, Roam from position. NOW: Shape: Very Fluid Mentality: Standard FW: CF(S)/DLF(S)/F9 - Costa/Embolo/Luan AML: IF(S/A) - Hazard or Raum(A) - Pedro or W(S) - Malcom AMR: W(S) - Willian/Cuadrado or IF(A) - Kenedy MCL: AP(A) - Tielemans/Fabregas/Oscar MCR: BBM - Cook/Hojbjerg/Oscar DMC: DM(S/D) - Matic/Thiago Maia LB: WB(S/A) opposite duty of the AML - Rahman/Targett RB: WB(S/A) opposite duty of the AMR - Azpilicueta/Mayke DCx2: Ball playing defs x 2 TIs: Normal tempo, balanced with, slightly higher defensive line (lower to normal vs fast teams), Use Offside Trap, Max closing down, Tight Marking, Prevent Short GK distribution, Mixed passing, Play out of defence. PIs: FW: Move into channels, Close down much more. IFs: Sit Narrower, Close down much more. BBM: Get Further Forward WBs: Sit narrower, Run wide with ball based on Guido's defending vs crosses guide (https://strikerless.com/2015/12/23/dealing-with-crosses-in-the-fm16-me/) DCs: Close down less Comments and observations: - The style of football I am trying to play is total football/gegenpressing and possession football. - I was tempted to emulate @Ö-zil to the Arsenal!'s 4-1-4-1 but then I felt that Hazard suits the higher up AML positions as an Inside Fwd (and Kenedy on the AMR side) and to save me from having to retrain him into a wide left midfield position. - From watching matches, I felt that my final 3 attacking players were often isolated from the midfield duo of my AP and BBM hence why I have the 'Get Further Forward' PI on my BBM. - I've feel that when I play Cook/Hojbjerg as CMs instead of BBMs they tend to play better and get more on the ends of attacking moves and passes more. Why is this the case? But I've seen people play and post tactics on here with an AP-BBM-DLP/DM trio in the 433 midfield with success. I've read somewhere in one of Ozil's tactical guides that the BBM is just the same as CM but with roaming as a PI on. Is this a possible reason why? - Willian was my best player and played consistently better than Hazard as a right wide AP(S) in my structured control system before I made the switch. Hazard was often underperforming no matter whether I tried him as IF(A) or (S). - I got rid of Willian as an AP(S) in the new very fluid system as such fluid systems should have 0-1 specialist roles according to @wwfan (I know, I know... I have read the numerous debates on how the generalist/specialist debate is just a myth and @wwfan came up with it to help newer players understand the TC and how it works and he did disclaim that not every thing is hard and fast rule but it does make sense: more specialists in structured systems, more generalists roles in fluid systems as the efficacy of specialist roles in more fluid systems are lessened). I have switched him to a Winger on Support duty now but I feel that it makes no sense since my striker is a deep playing one (see below) and won't be in the box to receive his crosses. Am I wrong to play Willian as a Winger then? Inside Fwd doesnt suit him because he is right footed. - I'm not sure what to put my roles and duties for my midfield trio and final third attacking trio anymore as they no longer perform as consistently or in the way I would expect them to compared to my structured system. Could it be that my players dont have the right mentality to play a "Very Fluid" system and I should take it down a notch to "Fluid"? The reason I am adamant about it being able to work is because my team is the highest ranked team in the Premier League for "Decisions" and thus should be able to play intelligent and possession football. - My FW is usually a supporting striker role. F9 works beautifully with Luan but neither Costa or Embolo have performed consistently either with DLF or CF(S). I tend to play them as DLF(S) when AMR and AML are both Inside Fwds and as a CF(S) when at least one AMR or AML is playing as a winger. - As my FW is usually a supporting/creative striker role, I thought it would make sense to exploit the space he creates when dragging out the opposition's defenders with him by setting Hazard on IF with an attacking duty. However, I find that he is often not doing much to contribute to the match and hardly getting any touches in. - I am holding most of possession with many shots taken but less than half on target usually and I concede at least a goal a game on average due to being hit on the counter with my high defensive line and playing the offside trap. During half time of course, I select to work into box if I see that I have low shots on target and long shots making a fair share of my total shots. That's all I can think of right now in terms of comments and observations. Please let me know what other information you require in order to help you suggest where I could improve or tinker with and see if it makes a positive difference. Thank you! @Cleon, @Rashidi and @Ö-zil to the Arsenal! I am particularly looking forward to your responses!
  10. PRESS & PASS for FM2017 I had huge success in FM2016 with a very similiar tactic taking Ipswich to Champions' League glory and domestic dominance and I've updated and tweaked it for FM2017 with some successful results. My Ipswich team has one of the lowest wage and transfer budgets but sits in 2nd place and is in the final of the EFL Cup. The formation is a 433 with with an emphasis on a high press and short passing possession football played at a high tempo (I could envisage a top side playing in a similiar way to Klopp's current Liverpool team). With my relatively poor Ipswich team I have the top scorer, top assist maker, top team possession, top completed passes, top team goals only the 7th best defence. It's set up as counter attack mentality but I do switch to control against significantly weaker opposition. Player Requirements: Goalkeeper: Nothing particularly special though I do place a premium on reflexes and one-on-ones Centre Backs: Your usual defensive stats but have at least one relatively quick player with good anticipation and positioning in the 'cover' role as the higher line and pressing of the team will leave room at the back for the opposition to exploit and this guy is key to stopping those iritating break away goals Full backs: These guys are key to your success, I have one decent fullback and he's in double figures for assists, look for pace, off the ball, crossing and workrate - Jack Hunt absolutely smashed the assists when I had him on 2016 but he's well out of my price range at the moment. Central Midfielders: The key attribute for these guys is work rate, if you have a lazy guy in any of these positions it will kill your team. Look to place the most attack minded player in the advanced play-maker role and don't be frightened to tweak it to a roaming play-maker if it suits the attributes; this chap is the creative hub that keeps the ball moving and laying on the passes for the false nines and full backs to set up chances. Your best finisher should be your box to box midfielder, especially if he has good long shots. Your most defensive minded guy should be in the ball winning role. False nines: The guys are your second key player, like your full backs, they create chances for your team and they score them too. Look for good off the ball, first touch and passing as your key attributes; pace, passing, crossing and finishing are a bonus. Advanced Forward: The goal Machine, my one signing for cash (£750,000) has 25 goals in 30 games in all competitions. You have a choice here, you can go for out and out speed and finishing to latch onto the chances your FBs and F9s will create, this works well but if you have a strong player who is still fairly quick for your division they will be able to hold off opponents and score. Please feel free to download and let me know how you get on. 433 press & pass_2017.fmf
  11. Was wondering if anyone could help with me setting up roles for a 4-3-3? Feel like I have a decent squad but something's not quite clicking with my formation, any advice welcome. Playing structured with the following roles/duties DLP (S) IF (A) W (S) CM (A) BWM (D) DLP (S) FB (D) CB(D) CB (D) FB (A) STriker's strongest role is apparently AF but I feel like that would leave him too isolated? Plus it would make four players with an attack duty
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