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  1. OUTLINE This is a series of posts, essentially it chronicles my attempts to develop a 4312 with a bunch of misfits who shouldn't be in the Championship. I plan to do this series in a different way than normal. There will be written articles written with the benefit of hindsight with videos that show me making some serious errors in judgement. The articles and videos are inter-related and will show how I entered the Summer of Shining Stupidity basking in its sunshine. While I looked ok in some matches because I was adapting, this was a train wreck waiting to happen. I kept ignoring fundamental issues, like managing channels between players, both vertical and horizontal. Each post is followed by a video where you will see me playing a game, in fact in one show i am blowing away opposition way better than us, but i refused to even acknowledge the danger, in fact, i subconsciously predicted what I was going to do, and its actually in the show. I only realised it much later when i was writing the series. The series starts with a Mastering Movement article that deals with Move Into Channels, then I have 4 articles with related videos as well that show the evolution of a 4312. The first 3 shows have a play through. For those who want the TLDR version just jump to Lessons Learnt video, which is basically a summary. OBJECTIVES The goal of this series of posts and videos is to share my experiences, and hopefully engage with everyone here to see how common these mistakes can be. By using video and written material, I am hoping to make this easier for everyone to grasp. Play throughs are used to show how the movement of the various versions of 4312 can look like. The written posts serve to be an analytical looks at systems. Where possible I will use skins to show roles and duties, however these are only done to for illustrative purposes so everyone can see how they affected the channels. This is important to capture in hindsight. As an engagement exercise, I hope that the mistakes i made judging vulnerability of vertical channels will be helpful and since it is across several platforms I hope we get some quality engagement via a dialogue here. We begin the series with a written guide on Movement, and i also do a video guide for the same thing. These articles are also available at teaandbusquets.com/blog Episode 1: Squad Building for the Championship I deal with our newly promoted side in the Championship. We analyse the squad and proceed to bring in players. I decide on how we should be playing based on what has happened in pre-season including two wins over similar opponents in our league. My initial tactic already has flaws that I haven't even bothered to acknowledge, I refuse to look at my own attributes to see what the spread is, so basically I am playing like someone would who had downloaded a tactic and played with the best players who could in his squad. Issue: I still wasn't using the best players in my squad making some simple selection errors. Episode 2: Spot My Stupidity- We are still trying to work things out. There are flaws in the system, but somehow or not the romantic in me, still wants to have his cake and it it eat too. I play another game this time against West Brom, I still ignore the fundamentals, but I also begin to recognise some squad weaknesses.We identify who should be playing. And we start looking at training sessions for the team. We play a match against Preston, and by the end of the show, I seem to be finalising my squad choices. Episode 3: Forgetting the 6 Second Move- In this show i explain how we scored a goal in 6 seconds. The same player scored twice. We then head into the next match, change the system to something else thinking we will do the same thing again. What did I do wrong here? Episode 4: Lessons Learnt Post Match Analysis shows that I am going to be in trouble if I keep things up, so we make fundamental changes to our system. This episode has no play through, instead its serves as a look at what happened in the last few games leading me to a version of our 4312, that fixes the problems we have with the system. I explain what the problems are as I walk through the bright lights of enlightenment.
  2. This is a tactic I had much success with on FM17, and that's continued on FM18. It's not one for all matches - I use it at home when I'm favoured, away when heavily favoured, and when chasing a game. It can bevulnerable on the counter down the flanks, but concedes surprisingly few chances against. It'll create lots of chances, score lots of goals, many from crosses from the wingbacks to the forwards and SS, the Roaming Playmakers also chip in. Possession is usually around 55-60 %. The screenshot below pretty much sums the tactic up, there are no PI's. The Ball Playing Defender is not a must, I use when I have one that fits the role, otherwise just two regular CD(d). The player in the AMC position can also be an AM(a). I usually decide based on the player and the opponent (weaker opp -> SS, not so weak, -> AM(a) ). The key is he fills the box with the forwards. For the players I focus on the following: Wingbacks with good crossing. Also need stamina, they will be going up and down those flanks a lot. Quick centre backs as the line is high. Dynamic and versatile Roaming Playmakers Versatille forwards who can not only finish but run, pass and are decent in the air. The screenshot is from my current British Challenge with Liverpool. Give it a go and let me know how you get on! -giventofly.
  3. I play with a 4312 formation. Has anyone had success with including any of the new player roles in fm18 ? My midfield 3 from FM17 was cms (close down more), dlpd, cms (close down more. I also play with attacking full backs. Just interesed to hear if people have evolved the tactic with success. Thanks
  4. Introduction So, where to start? My journey to FM 17 has been a long one, I started playing FM 16 as I normally do, with a lower league journeyman save. I ended up starting in the bottom Belgium league at Overijse who were at the bottom, after a relatively good first season I then began to struggle, season after season. I spent 5 years at Overijse getting relegated in the final season. Disaster really, I was struggling but then ended up at Francs Borains. The first 5 years I spent going from 12th to 6th back to 12th again, I couldn’t get anything to work. Complete nightmare and something had to change. After this constant plodding along for 10 season and numerous computer monitors being smashed I started to count the cost, I was around 300 GBP down. I then reached out to @Rashidi on the forums to help me create a better ROI for my time (and money). He agreed to help me with some consulting, exchanging his normal business consulting services for Football Manager (yes, really!). A good ROI for me, and a saving of many computer monitors. How did the 4312 come about? To cut a long story short I learned about various systems and how to put them together with Football Manager’s tactic builder. Originally I had a 442 with Francs Borains that got us promoted to the Belgium 2nd division, my first ever promotion on the game after around 13 seasons stuck in the der klasse. A great achievement from where I came from. I then spent a few seasons keeping us in the Belgium 2nd division but due to a falling out with the board I ended up at Antwerp. At Antwerp things moved fast, I got promoted to the top division using a 442 again and then went with a 352 to try and keep my place in the 1st division. Having secured that I found tere was a lack of good wing backs available to me which would allow me to progress the club so switched to a 433. I made good progress season after season and ended up winning the league a few times. As time went on teams started to get very defensive so I needed something different as the 433 wasn’t cut it anymore…enter my own product, the 4312. 4312 I went with a 4312 as it created more of an overload to teams who were playing extremely defensively against me. I am especially proud of it as my work with @Rashidi had got to the point where I was able to see a problem myself and create a formation I had never used or done before as a solution. Let’s take a look at what’s going on: CD(d): Pretty standard two central defenders FB(a): The fullbacks are attacking as I want maximum width from them, however, if the other team are attacking I may change the fullbacks to FB(s), to steal a quote from @Rashidi….shut down the flanks. On these fullbacks I want them to stay wider to provide an outlet. In lower leagues you can also add on Fewer risky passes to stop wild passes with fullbacks of less ability. DLP(d): I need a playmaker and in this instance, I prefer a deeper one as he would get more space deeper and it affords me more attacking options further up the pitch. CM(s): This is probably the most controversial points; in this position, I need players to cover the flanks, but also support the defence and attack, thus I need support players in these positions. Then as I need the players to go out wide to put in tackles it boils down to two roles, CM & BWM. The reason I chose CM(s) instead of BMW(s) is predominantly a choice of player available. I chose aggressive, hardworking players for those roles so I didn’t want to combine this with a BWM(s) role. At the moment, I do not have any PIs on these players but you can set them up as BWM using CM(s) and not use hard tackling just by increasing the closing down. AM(a), F9, AF: The 3 roles were chosen very carefully, basically I wanted one player to push the defensive line so chose the AF. I then chose a F9 to create movement up front and drag defenders out of place allowing the AM to enter the space and score. Mentality, team shape and instructions With my Antwerp side generally expected to win I wanted to control the play but didn’t want to start as attacking I wanted to measure my approach to the game. So, would start on control along with structured. Structured as it spreads the players out and asks them to stick to the roles and instructions I have given, thus limiting the initial risk taking for the start of the matches. However, one of the main things that has been taught throughout my sessions with @Rashidi was that you should have a base tactic that can be used on several mentalities with different team shapes, so I do tend to switch these depending on the circumstances. Here’s a very quick summary with team instructions: Control – Structured – base to start from Attacking – Structured – want to take a few more risks, but still want to keep the team performing as I want Control – Fluid – need a goal more, want to take a bit more risk and give the players a few more decisions to make and not push up against their defensive line as much Attacking – Very Fluid – We need a goal; I want them to take much more risks and cause the opposition the maximum amount of problems. When you have a balanced tactic you should be able to switch between these mentalities & team shape depending on what happens in the match. One things of note, I do use Stay on Feet and Use offside trap as you can see above, however, you have to make sure that you have the right players for that. In addition, at each point of the above setups you can increase/decrease the width or increase/decrease the defensive line, don’t be frightened to do that I do that sometimes. What attributes do I need? Generally, I tend to favour, acceleration, bravery, concentration and positioning, though I do factor in work rate and teamwork. This is because @Rashidi told me too, just joking, somewhat. It was brought to my attention by @Rashidi that these are extremely important and are even more important in a 4312 as you have a relatively narrow and grouped formation so if you want to control the game you need to be first to the ball. Those highlighted attributes are essential to that. Apart from that let’s look at a few recommended attributes per position. CD(d): Acceleration, pace, tackling, marking, positioning, bravery & concentration. You need fast defenders for a high line FB(a): Same as base stats with tackling, marking and crossing DLP(d): Base stats with good defensive and playmaking abilities CM(s): Some aggression, base stats as well as high work rate and teamwork I would say AM(a): Fast, brave, good off the ball, good playmaking abilities with a good mentality such as anticipation F9: Fast, good off the ball, finishing, dribbling, play making abilities a bonus AF: Extremely fast, good finisher, off the ball and anticipation & composure The above is just a quick guide, obviously, some attributes are more important than others Does this work in FM 17? What about lower league? Yes, it does work in FM 17, works well. I am using it with Dag & Red (lower league) as we couldn’t buy any players over the summer due to a transfer embargo. Let’s take a look. So, are there any differences? A few at the moment, my fullbacks are generally set at support and are told fewer risky passes. That’s about it for changes, it seems that the majority of the formations I have used in FM 16 also work nicely in FM 17 with the systems that were laid out.
  5. So I've decided to start a Leicester save - I know its late - and this is kinda a Career Update thread but I'm focusing more on tactics = good results, not buy players = good results. My goal is to win the Premier League by 2026. Set the clock ticking.... now! I think we've all realised (Claudio Ranieri included) that Leicester's reputation has shot up following their shock title win in the 2015-16 season. So sitting back, defending tight and hitting teams on the counter with Vardy and Musa, is no longer an option against the mid table sides. Leicester are now expected to beat the mid table sides 3 or 4 nil.
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