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  1. I’ve been trying to get the most out of my APs for a long time, but can’t figure out how. I want to play a 4231 with Arsenal. What tactics could I use?
  2. I play a 4231 with Arsenal, and my strikers won’t score. It doesn’t matter what club I use, I can’t get them to score. This is my tactic, what can I do to make them score? I have Haland, Geubells, Dolberg and Aubumeyang. This shows my best XI and my team, which isn’t my best XI, just a team I have set out currently.
  3. Bit of advice please. My tactic is performing really well- top of Championship with Leeds and on course to win it by 10+ points. Only issue is that my centre forward doesnt score many goals (all 3 of them that I have tried have betwwen 5-8 goals). Ive tried PFA, CSs, AFa, DLFA but none of them seem to be right. Is there an obvious issue with my tactic thats causng a lack of space for the striker to operate in etc? e.g the high press ? Im having similar issues with my 2nd tactic thats more defensive.... any afvice on either would be appreciated. Like I say the tactics are working well.. im just being picky!
  4. Hi there, as the title suggests I'm having tactical issues in game which seem to constantly plague any save I have started on this years version and the previous, invariably leading to a much lower play-time compared to previous iterations of the game. Any suggestions or input as to how I can change my current set-up or my own thinking into just approaching it would be very much appreciated! Thanks P.S. I will try to keep this as short as I can, but I think maybe giving a detailed background might help me remember what the original plan was as I started the save a while back, and through all the quitting and coming back it's hard to remember what that plan was. So. I'm managing Portsmouth currently three seasons in. The first season in League One we gained promotion via the play-offs, which ended up being disappointing considering for much of the campaign we were leading the pack, but results against defensive teams (not surprising) led to frustration and a stuttering end. However, we did get promoted which on one hand let the save continue but also probably led me to ignore the issues. My thinking here was that I'm trying to manage expectations, we were expected to get promoted and so I shouldn't be too disheartened by the fact we achieved our goal, but just watching games where I know something isn't right and can see problems but unsure how to approach them gets the better of me a lot of the time, and it has got to the stage where one loss stops me from wanting to play for months. Second season, the first in the Championship, we were expected to finish in the relegation zones but ending up again sneaking into the last play-off spot making it to the final but losing out, which is fair my team are nowhere near ready for the Premier League anyhow. I can accept that we over-achieved a bit in the season, I would of been happy with a mid-table to top half finish in all honesty. My biggest problem with this season was that the results never felt consistent, we scored a lot of goals from corners or free-kicks and generally our play was either great or scrappy, depending how the other team was set-up. We won 23, drew 9 and lost 14 with a GD of just 10, we scored a fair few but shipped a lot as well because of the set-up which I think I've addressed, I hope at least. Finally onto my current season, only just started. I switched from playing Control to Standard because I knew we were pressing too much. This was an incorrect decision I feel as the mentality switch affected us going forward I believe I should have just taken off Push Higher Up and Close Down More as my slowish CB's couldn't take the extra load. I have sinced switch this and we've only conceded 1 goal in three games and just in general look a lot better at the back. The biggest problems I'm having are any matches against more defensive teams because of the link-up and support between midfield and attack, I think. Okay so the original plan is as follows. I really liked the 4231 Pochettino installed at Spurs with Son, Alli and Eriksen behind Kane and with Dembele and Dier/Wanyama holding behind which freed up the full-backs and I wanted to implement this with Portsmouth as they are the team I support and for the most part the players suited this formation and most of the roles. After reading @Cleon's thread about 4231 and the bit about control vs standard, I decided to give it a go using the 4411 formation, one that I have never been successful with also I think it represents a real life 4231 a lot maybe the CM's (and AM) could drop further down but I didn't think it would be a problem. I want to play aggressive football like Spurs, without relying on possession as much but I understand that my closing down more I would naturally more likely be in control of the game. I believe that the pairing of DLP(S) and CM(D) is a solid base to this style, so that they can recycle possession back into the more creative front four, and full backs. My concern here though is that because of this I have no deep movement,compared to @Cleon and this is obviously something he mentions a lot when opening up defensive sides. But I thought it would come from the full backs, this is where I'm struggling to understand how I should of approached this part of the formation. This also ties into my role's of AM(A) and DLF(A) at times in games its clear neither are an option to pass too both on the last line of defence, which is obviously coming from their role/duty allocation. I tried switching to an AM(S) but i felt the midfield three just passed it between them not going anywhere because a DLP(S) isn't bursting forward but I'm stubborn to change it because I thought it was a good base as mentioned before. I'm wary of maybe dragging on and just confusing everyone reading and myself! So this is the crux of the issues, in short against defensive teams we turn into a crossing bonanza as obviously the only player available is the W(S) whose job it is to cross but that isn't varied enough to open up a tight defence.
  5. So I started my save with Bilbao and at first I played with 4 in the back, 1 as DM, 1 as MC and 3 wingers with 1 striker. It didn't satisfy me so I switched to 4-2-3-1. Issue is, when I play against smaller teams I can't score, and when I play against big teams, they score against me quite a lot. Smaller teams are scoring as well. I tried to tweak it out but I found myself in a loop hole. What do you suggest I should change? EDIT: I lose a lot of balls in the middle section.
  6. Hello there, First of all sorry for my english, it is not my native language, I understand it all, but can't write perfectly. I am a huge fan of the Football Manager series for a long time, and as you will see, a huge fan of Juventus also. Every year I play with them. Load up the team because I know them, search a tactic, that suits me, and hit the play button. And I get bored of it. Because it becomes a "push the continue button" play. So this year, I want to make a tactic, that works well for me. Plays as I want to play, and hopefully bring so much succes. So first I read a lot of this forum. I can't say, I understand it all the aspects, what you say, that is the reason I'm asking for help. As I know, that Juventus defensive shape is a flat 4-4-2. They usually, don't press the opponents, just the two forward players, the striker, and the attacking midfielder. On defence they are narrow. I found an article about it, with deep analyse. " Their 4-4-2 is narrow and compact. This narrowness and compactness are necessary because Mandzukic, Cuadrado, Dybala and Higuain have to be able to support Pjanic and Khedira during the defensive phase. This shape is similar to Diego Simeone's Atletico Madrid in the defensive phase. The major difference is that Athletic Madrid plays a very active defense where they use pressing to guide opponent's ball movements into areas (flanks) they want to defend. In contrast, Juventus 4-4-2 is passive. It is because none of these six players in front of the defense is a great 1-v-1 defender. If they are too aggressive in chasing down opponents, it will leave more space for other teammates to cover, thereby increasing the chance for the opponent to open up the defense if they can resist Juventus's initial pressure. " So, for the first part, I would like to play a narrow compact defensive line, with little pressure in our own half. So I decided to make the formation a 442 one. Here is the formation I want to use, because i think this is the best replica for the defence. I manually add close down much more for the DLF-A and the AM. And decrease closing down to my CB-D, and DLP-D, and Anchor. For the mentality I want to use standard, and Flexible. For TI-s i want to keep it simple. Higher defensive line, play out of defence. GK distribute to the fullbacks. So how i would imagine to work this tactic in attack. Hands down the best player in the club at the moment is Paolo Dybala. He is good at everything. He is a creator, but also a finisher. I Want him the new icon at the club. So he need to create, and also need to finish as well. And here we are, the problem I'm facing. In attack this I want to play. Play out of defence, most of the time around Pjanic as DLP-D. But I also think about a Volante-S, i don't know which one works better at the moment. With Douglas Costa at the left side Winger support gives us a width, he can dribble down the sideline and cross, and if the space is not avaliable, he has many options. Simple pass to the WB-S, DLP-D, AM (Dybala). On the right side i have Bernardeschi, who likes to cuts Inside, so this is the reason I decided a WB-a at his side, because the anchor man(Khedira) will stay deep, and the WB-A can use the space, when the IW-A cuts inside and hopefully pull his lb with him. At the front i have Higuain. Who is a big striker, not to pacy, but has very good finishing, and strength. He can hold the ball, arrive for crosses, or just make first time finishes, when the situation rise. And for Dybala. This is where i have problems. As I mentioned before, i want him a main man. Who create but also finish. He has a PPm the likes to come deep for the ball, so it won't be a problem, if he's got attack duty, because he won't be that advanced. Firstly I think about Enganche. He can drop to spaces both sides. Make himself avaliable for passes. He can do killer balls, both the winger, or the IW, or the WB-a. And also, he can dribble, or arrive the box for finishes. What do you guys think about my approach. Where could be the problems for my vision. Every help will be appraciated. Later today I would like to post some analyse if you say, what should I look. Thank you in advance.
  7. Hello guys, I'm new so i'm glad to be welcomed here My tactic and my results are here my strikers are Giroud Jovetic Lacazette and Guidetti... and they can't score, last year we finished 2nd actually we missed championship and this year we are 6th after 15 games. We hardly win games even we shoot 25+ and with %60 or %55 possession... i usally play narrow with this tactic don't mind it's wide on the ss if you want further information just ask me... Thanks for helps
  8. I'd like to share a tactic I made for mine Arsenal side, I'm not after likes or sorts I'm mostly after seeing is it good on overall base since it was made around mine current squad. The ones I'm most interested about are PRESA series of tactics which are Control based 451, Attacking based 451 and Control based 4231 DM WIDE, so if anyone has spare time on his hands and is willing to try them out and provide info here is a link to FM base where I posted whole description and analysis on the few tactics I made: http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/share-download-fm-17-tactics/366119-little-mozart.html Cheers and thanks for your time
  9. I've been a long reader of this forum, but never really posted anything. I've read a lot of the posts here (most notably the Art of Possession Football by Cleon, amongst others) and took a few tips here and there. I've created a club on a Portuguese Premier League, using Nacional da Madeira (a very small team on FM with no budget for transfers or wages) and it took me a few years to make it a powerful club. On one of my seasons, I've managed to make a whole season without losing a match. I did a lot of experimentation with it for several seasons, until it was perfected to my liking. It relies a lot on the quality of the Wing backs (Pace, Stamina, Crossing and Marking) and also the decision making of the AMC (Decision, First Touch, Passing, Long Shots). I would like to point out that at this moment, I have a high quality team with great attributes, very determined and fast. For several seasons I played with a Defensive Midfielder instead of an Attacking Midfielder, but there was always lack of support in the middle for the Striker. So I tweaked it, and it became much more stable with an AMC. It should work well for medium-sized teams, but the small teams might struggle. Here's the tactic itself: Counter mentality might seem counter-intuitive, but it gives more stability at the back to compensate the high defense. Structured shape is great to encourage players to keep it simple. However, I do change it to "Fluid" when I'm struggling on a match, this does seem to push the opposite side to areas that they are not supposed to be. As you can see, the Defensive line is the highest possible, which congests the space on the opposite side. Width is stretched so that the players can find better spaces. The problem with high or low tempos was that the players would either loose the ball too often or just waste opportunities, so I kept it normal. "Work Ball Into Box" is due to the same reason, my attackers used to waste too many balls. I do like to Play out of Defence though, it keeps the possession more stable. However, due to the space I have at the back, I want my players to press as soon as they loose the ball. This makes the opponents rush or waste opportunities to attack. For a long time, I used to have an asymmetrical shape (just one Winger with Attack, the opposite winger on Support, etc.) but I noticed that many times, specially due to the Preferred Foot or Player Traits, this didn't always worked well, so I decided to keep it symmetric on both sides. Another thing I rely a lot is on Player Instructions. The more control I have over the players way of play, the better. So, starting from the back: Sweeper Keeper (Defend) - Fewer Risky Passes - Distribute to Full Backs - Roll it Out Goes out of the goal if necessary, doesn't waste possession, starts the attack from the wings and passes the ball to a nearby player if the wings are marked. Complete Wing Back Right/Left (Attack) - Shoot Less Often - Close Down More -Tackle Harder - Mark Tighter - More Direct Passes - More Risky Passes Keeps pressure on the wings, aggressive at the back and closing opposition opportunities, finds opportunities to start the attack and doesn't shoot as much at the front. Ball Playing Defender (Defend) - Shoot less often - Tackle Harder - Close Down Much More The Central Defenders always stay at the back, taking the ball away from the opposite attack as soon as possible. Very aggressive as well. Ball Winning Midfielder (Support) - Shoot less often - Dribble Less - More Risky Passes The main function of the Ball Winning Midfielder is to support the defenders, not wasting possession with dribbles but finding players to exploit the opposition Deep Lying Playmaker (Support) - Dribble Less - More Risky Passes Another midfielder to support both the Defense and the Attacking areas of the team Inside Forward Right/Left (Support) - Shoot Less Often - Tackle Harder - Mark Tighter I experimented a lot with this. I noticed that, due to the attacking mentality of the Wing Backs, I needed to have the Wingers more close to the center, but every time they were close to the area they were shooting from a distance. So, they are there to keep support to the Striker and the Wing Backs when necessary. They still shoot when an opportunity arrives, but not so often as before. Advanced Playmaker (Support) - Tackle Harder - Mark Tighter This is the team main creator. He's always there to support the Striker and the Inside Forwards, but also deviates a bit from position to support the midfield. Plays very close to the Central Midfielders when we don't have the ball, but is there at the attack close to the Penalty Area. Great for second chance shots, or when the Striker is marked heavily. Complete Forward (Attack) - Shoots Less Often - Tackle Harder - Mark Tighter He's the main scorer. However, many times he tried to shoot from a distance or straight away, so the Shoots Less Often does bring some stability to this. He's always at the front, ready to score. EXAMPLES: Defending from the front As you can see, all my team (except the CD's) are at the opposition side. They lost the ball, but the team is pressing straight away. The Wing Backs are coming back to their position, and the Central Defenders are ready to press the Striker right at the center of the pitch. Defending from the center Now the team is more evenly shaped. The back four are at their marking areas. The AMC is going into position to press the player with the ball. The other two midfielders are marking the opposition midfield. The opposition will either have to pass long, or stop the play. Attacking from the back/center The midfielder has several options to pass. When attacking from the middle, there's always at least two options to pass the ball. The Inside forward is finding position, and the Complete Wing Backs are getting ready to go forward through the wings. On another example, you can see that the CWB is already very high on the pitch. The AMC now has an option to either play to the Striker that has no marking, or send the ball to the wings. The Inside Forward is starting to push to the center, as the Wing Back is getting the flanks covered for the attack. Attacking from the wings The CWB has the ball. He's ready to cross. The Striker is there, but if he misses the chance, the Inside Forward is going there as well. The AMC is finding position to cover the hole. Defenders are always at the back in case the chance is missed. The problem Here is one of the problems of this tactic. Because we play so upfront, the CWB is going to mark the player with the ball. However, the opposite striker has plenty of space to attack. That's why the team as a whole needs to have high attributes on the physical side. So, this was basically the tactic that I used the whole season. It's based on attack and pressing. More often than not, my back gets a few yellow cards during the season, but you can always remove the option Tackle Harder and see how it works for you. The Wing Backs need good physical attributes, and the two Midfielders should be good at defending. I kept using this tactic the following seasons, but from time to time I had to tweak some options because the AI seemed to figure out some of the way of play (Specially the teams that park the bus). Also, the updates of FM kept me having to make some changes here and there. But if I struggle, I mostly change the shape from Structured to Fluid, and also add the option to Retain Possession and Pass Into Space. It does push the opposite team to leave their positions, and my team doesn't waste as many balls at the front but sometimes there's not much you can do. It worked out for me, maybe it will work out for you too.
  10. I've been watching Juventus in recent months and loving their play, In particular, I've loved Madzukic's new role on the left wing. I've been wondering how to best recreate his role. Instead of the 352 they have become famous for, this has been Juve's 11 lately. I have been using Mario in 2 different roles so far and haven't had the effect I've wanted yet. First as an inside forward told to hold the ball up and sit narrow. He has the positional sense I want but doesn't use his physicality to best opponents also his dribbling leaves much to be desired. The Second is, as a wide target man, told to sit narrow and to cross less often ( Mandzukic rarely crosses in games instead Alex Sandro provides the crosses from the left side). This uses his physicality, but I find he is often on the periphery of games and doesn't have much influence. I'm interested to hear how you guys would approach deploying a player like Mandzukic in fm 17.
  11. Having had a slow start in my second season, I switched to a 4231 (image below). It yielded some quick results, but my defence is leaking goals. I'm never quite sure if I should have my defenders closing down whilst playing an offside trap or not. I'm also open to switching tactics completely if there are some good ideas. I like possession football, and ideally I would like to keep Iorfa on FB(A). I got Jonathan Viera in as well (his stats are awesome for a IF on the left). Any suggestions with these player roles in mind? Also, what would be some good opposition instructions?
  12. So I've decided to start a Leicester save - I know its late - and this is kinda a Career Update thread but I'm focusing more on tactics = good results, not buy players = good results. My goal is to win the Premier League by 2026. Set the clock ticking.... now! I think we've all realised (Claudio Ranieri included) that Leicester's reputation has shot up following their shock title win in the 2015-16 season. So sitting back, defending tight and hitting teams on the counter with Vardy and Musa, is no longer an option against the mid table sides. Leicester are now expected to beat the mid table sides 3 or 4 nil.
  13. (FM17) Started with Wimbledon and got promoted in the first season to the Championship. This was quite unexpected by me and the board and as a result I've had a tiny budget for the squad and have the lowest wages in the champo.. However, I think my tactic should be working better, as I made it to deal with a relegation battle in league 1, only for it to get me promoted, so I thought it would work against better teams. The tactic gives me lots of possession (about 55% average), but my players never seem to finish our chances. As a result I went on a long streak of not scoring, although the goals have started to come in, but I'm still on a long losing streak and now the board need me to get 8 points from 5 games. Any help is appreciated
  14. Hello Friends and fellow Football Managers. I am finding success with my current tactics somewhat challenging. Overall we're not performing massively below bar, with a media prediction of 12th my team currently occupies 15th place in the EFL Championship. However. I am finding it hard to maintain any form of consistency and after 6 games without a win I am up for the sack in 5 games time if I don't collect 6 points!!! So. The challenge is on to stabilize. So I am looking for way to improve this tactic and to also see where I am going wrong. So any help would be brilliant. I found the pairs and combinations, the Art of series very useless in planning my tactics also; The Formation I decided to switch my formation 7 EFL games into the season, as I came to my senses and stopped being stubborn and trying to play my style (tiki-taka) as my team simply doesn't posses the required skill to pull it off. Lots of possession and long shot issue (due to lack of support and better options) So I switched to a 4-2-3-1 wide with an AF leading the line. a Winger on the left, with a AM just behind the AF and an IF on the right hand side, with a support duty playing ahead of a maundering wingback with an attack duty. On the left side behind my Winger (also with an attack duty) my full back is on a support duty. I choose these roles for my dual wide men as I wanted to have a variety of ways of penetrating the opposition so that my attacks wouldn't become one dimension and stale. My two central players in midfield are a CM (D) and a DLP (S) so my defense would have protection. Lastly my two centre backs are simply on a defend duty. Team & Player instructions Here are my team instructions. I was wondering what people's opinion are on changing my Instructions for the final third, as the early, whipped crosses possibly suite a more counter attacking style? than a standard or attacking mentality as most away teams will probably sit deeper if they'e coming to my ground, unless they are the better side? Same as clear ball to flanks. Would that be more counter productive in an attacking or standard mentality side? My Player instructions are. Left Winger is to, get further forward, run wide with ball, dribble more. The IF is to center the ball and that is all the player instructions I have made. Results Here are my results. The redline is where I changed my formation to my current one in use now. Comparison & Depth OI Instructions With my OI instructions, I will mark & close down slow strikers and show them onto their weaker foot. I will close down both wingers and fullbacks and tackle both hard and again show them onto their weak foot. AMS & APs will be closed down, but will not be marked as usually there will be a space in-between the central two in midfield and the the defense. Central AI midfielders will be closed down depending on their passing, scoring, creativity and long shot attributes. Away Formation & Instructions The OI here is the same as the home tactic. The Player instructions are as follows, WMs get forward more, dribbles more and the BBM roams more.
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