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Hi, I think there are issues with the Northern Irish European Playoffs. My most recent season finished: League table Coleraine - qualify for Champions League Dollingstown - qualify for Europa League Cliftonville - qualify for Europa League by winning Irish Cup Armagh Ballymena Linfield Glenavon Playoff fixtures QF Cliftonville (3) .v. Armagh (4) - Armagh won SF1 Ballymena (5) .v. Linfield (6) - Ballymena won SF2 Armagh (4) .v. Glenavon (7) - Armagh won F Armagh (4) .v. Ballymena (5) - Ballymena won So in this example, Cliftonville should not have participated in the playoff - they won the Irish Cup and had already qualified for the Europa League and as a result a quarter final is not required. The only time a quarter final is required is if a team outside 3rd - 7th wins the Irish Cup. Also, even at first glance the 3rd and 4th placed teams playing in the quarter final is just odd. The playoff lineup should have been (which to be fair did happen in the game by accident): SF Armagh (4) .v. Glenavon (7) - highest placed team at home to lowest placed team SF Ballymena (5) .v. Linfield (6) - two teams left, higher placed gets home advantage F Highest placed team gets home advantage (By the way, despite their failure in the playoffs Cliftonville did qualify for the Europa League due to their Irish Cup win.) Anyway Wikipedia and the official rules can explain it better than me. Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIFL_Premiership#European_qualification Premiership Rules (sections 7 e,f and g) https://www.nifootballleague.com/images/documents/DanskeBankPremiershipRules1819.pdf Also, Premiership clubs should not be competing in the Steel and Sons Cup. I'm sure this has been the case in previous versions of FMM but in FMM19 top flight clubs are entered in the Steel and Sons Cup which isn't correct. I believe top flight clubs reserves teams can compete (e.g. Glentoran II and Linfield Swifts) but not their first teams. Thanks, John

I have started a new save some the winter update, and Northern Ireland are no longer selectable to manage as an international team. I have previously chosen them, but they no longer appear on the team selection screen for Europe. Help!

Hi, I'm managing in Northern Ireland at the moment and I'm struggling to get my reputation above 1 star. What is the best way to do this? I know reputation is gained by cup and league wins but I doubt NI cups/leagues will get me much rep. That just leaves the Europa League/Champions League and I don't think I'll have much of a chance of winning them! Do you get big rep gains for playing in the group stages of these competitions?

On Top Of The Weld: A Titanic Challenge Introduction The Harland & Wolff cranes Samson and Goliath dominate the skyline in Belfast. Now diversifying into repairs, civil engineering and offshore energy, Harland & Wolff are most famous for being one the greatest shipmakers of all time. The White Star Line ships Olympic, Britannic and of course the Titanic were all built by Harland & Wolff. In the height of it's heyday H & W employed thousands of people from the city and one faction of these, the Welders, decided to set up their own Football & Social Club in 1965. In I come as a young up-and-coming manager with a dream of making Harland & Wolff famous for it's youth academy as well as it's ships. It's going to be a titanic challenge though, considering we're starting without a youth setup at all... We're also expected to finish 11th out of 12, so it could be a tough first season. Key Players Yes that's right, our best player is 41 years old . I reckon we can get a couple more seasons out of him. McKeown is exactly the kind of experienced player you need in your side, his mental attributes are very impressive, though his pace is woeful. Not the most technically gifted strikers, but he makes up for it with pace, movement and composure. Our only foreigner, but you certainly wouldn't mess with him! He's a man mountain at 6'5 and will sit in our midfield to win it in the air or on the ground and move it on. McMurray is the injection of pace in our backline, helping cover for the lack of pace in players like McKeown.

(Current profile) Hi guys. I'm starting a new save on FM17 with the Northern Irish league expansion pack so I thought I would post my career on here. I guess I want to do this because starting from nothing to something seems nice. So, if I start with an amateur club with nothing it gives me a challenge after all Northern Ireland have a lot of league systems to conquer. However, the aim of the game is to get an amateur club to a professional status, but I won't guarentee to stay with the club I first pick, after all if I want it a little realistic, I will follow the money. I picked Caw because it is a relatively local club for me and it'll be nice to get them to win the North West Junior Premier League. Brief overview of the competition; Post below will describe the competitions in detail. I look forward to further posts where I will post regarding my great staff(:/) and players.

Hello Everyone, My new venture for FM18 is something i was going to try and play on FM17 and that is playing as Linfield who are based in Northern Ireland.A very small country as we are all aware but very patriotic with there football.Ive chosen Linfield as i prefer playing as lower teams in a smaller nation and rather do my usual saves on FM like Rangers,Chelsea bigger teams i thought yes lets go with Linfield.So i will make this thread as enjoyable as possible. Quick background about myself,ive been playing FM since the champ manager days but never really thought to share my careers with the community and with so many others doing so i thought what the heck why not? Hopefully pick up some tips and stuff along the way too.I will be starting off as myself with no coaching badges and a professional footballer reputation in the hope that i can get the club to the next level. I dont really anticipate leaving Northern Ireland in FM but i have loaded up the leagues from the British Isles and the Republic of Ireland as well as players from top divisions in Europe giving me a nice figure of about 50,000 players in the game,that should be enough i think. Hopefully i have an interesting career here so lets crack on!!!

The Northern Ireland system needs a total overhaul at every level The pyramid system in Northern Ireland Level League(s)/Division(s) 1 NIFL Premiership - Senior 2 NIFL Championship Senior 3 NIFL Premier Intermediate League - Intermediate 4 Ballymena & Provincial League Premier Division - Intermediate Mid-Ulster Football League Intermediate A - Intermediate Northern Amateur League Premier Division - Intermediate Northern Ireland Intermediate League - Intermediate 5 Mid-Ulster Football League Intermediate B - Intermediate Northern Amateur League Division 1A - Intermediate 6 Northern Amateur League Division 1B - Intermediate 7 Northern Amateur League Division 1C - Intermediate Leagues under level 7 are junior clubs The NIFL Premiership Development League, which is also an intermediate league, comprises the reserve teams of the twelve senior NIFL Premiership clubs. Championship Development League North & Championship Development League South for NIFL Championship NIFL & Premier Intermediate League (the same format as the English set up) there is no under 18's Senior level NIFL Charity Shield ( Similar to the English FA Community Shield) At national level there are two senior cup competitions: the Irish Cup and the Northern Ireland Football League Cup, although intermediate teams are entitled to enter both. At regional level, three of the four regional FAs organise their own senior cup competition. The North East Ulster Football Association runs the County Antrim Shield; the Mid-Ulster Football Association organises the Mid-Ulster Cup and the North West of Ireland Football Association organises the North West Senior Cup. Intermediate level At national level there is one intermediate cup competition: the Intermediate Cup. At regional level, three of the four regional FAs organise their own cup competitions. The North East Ulster Football Association runs the Steel & Sons Cup; the Mid-Ulster Football Association organises the Bob Radcliffe Cup; and the North West of Ireland Football Association organises the Craig Memorial Cup. The Fermanagh & Western Football Association organised the Fermanagh & Western Intermediate Cup for three seasons, but it is now defunct. There are numerous junior leagues in Northern Ireland, including junior divisions of the Northern Amateur League and the Mid-Ulster League. The term "junior" is not related to the age of the players but the fact that the clubs are at amateur level. Junior level There is one national junior cup competition: the Irish Junior Cup. At regional level, each of the four regional FAs organises its own cup competition. The North East Ulster Football Association runs the County Antrim Junior Shield; the Mid-Ulster Football Association organises the Mid-Ulster Shield, the North West of Ireland Football Association organises the North-West Junior Cup, and the Fermanagh & Western Football Association organises the Mulhern Cup. In other words i would love to see that sort of format with Senior level, Intermediate level, Junior level

i would love to see the Youth Structure of (U23, U18 etc) following real life like in my current save i'm playing with Tranmere Rovers in game there U18 are not in any league but in real life they play in the North West Conference of the Football League Youth Alliance but in game what would be Football League Youth Alliance is a mess like some of the team that would playing in North West Conference are playing in what would be the South West Conference And the SuperCupNI (formerly NI Milk Cup est. 1983) with the Tournament having full support from the EPL Premier League backing is 'significant endorsement' for SuperCupNI

Hello, I’m back. Last year I took you on a journey with my Wakehurst side, and had a fairly successful (in the end) attempt at the Youth Challenge. I took Wakehurst from the bottom of the Northern Irish Football League to surviving as a Premier League outfit after a rather outrageous escape. You can see more of that here. Anyway, I’ve taken some time elsewhere on FM, and have now decided it is time to attack Northern Ireland once again. In an ideal world, I would go again with Wakehurst, but unfortunately without me in real life they got relegated. Time waits for no man, so I have settled on a new team for this story. It is will be a youth challenge again, as before. I will also keep you all updated on how the national side do in their matches. Ladies and gentlemen, we're heading to

Northern Ireland Extended League System v1.1 (Final Edition) A full roster of 495 1st teams available to play across 52 active divisions in 18 leagues (although there are an additional 100(ish) B/Res/II/2nd teams riddled throughout the lower divisions so in some instances you can play 2 divisions with the one team which can be a bit of fun!) Leagues included: Northern Irish Football League Northern Amateur Football League Mid Ulster Football League Ballymena and Provincial Football League Northern Irish Intermediate League Fermanagh and Western Football League Belfast and District Football League North West Junior Football League North West Saturday Morning League Newcastle and District Football League Carnbane (Newry) Football League Lonsdale Football League Belfast Sunday Morning Football Ballymena Saturday Morning Football League Coleraine and District Football League Down Area Winter Football League Hutchinson Tiles Winter League South Antrim Football League League Pyramid Most people will be aware there isn't much of an official pyramid past tier 4 although the tier four divisions do have extended structures underneath its a bit sketchy with qualifying rules etc. on how to get teams up and down the pyramid. So with this in mind I will be taking a little bit of artistic license on how to get it to operate in the most logical way based on regions. I've attached an image of the full pyramid structure I've managed to put together. I'll give a quick explanation of reasoning behind it. In reality NI only goes down to level 4 although it is difficult for level 4 teams to get into the top tier due to regulations of pitches and operating status. I have removed these restrictions to allow a decent flow of teams. In level 4 there are 4 main regional divisions 3 of which have their own league structures, NAFL, MUFL and Ballymena & Provincial. The 4th league is the Intermediate League (essentially North Western) which is a little bit of a remnant of a previous structure before the Championship was split into 2 a few tears back. With these 4 main regions defined I have kept that leg structure and extended further down using smaller divisions that are based closest to the main regions (This is partly because it was the simplest way of getting a promotion/relegation system using the basic rules but also because there is no defined 'level' for the other leagues) There is an exception to this where I have allowed 3 leagues to gain promotion through the Down Area Winter League into the NAFL system, this is because there are a lot more leagues based around this regional scope and if I were to just have each league eventually come through each other it would go down to level 25 which I felt was a bit much JUST for this region! Promotion and relegation is fairly simple with a 2 up 2 down method in most cases. The promotion/relegation play off between Danske Prem and Championship still exists, there is a play off between the 4 region divisions in Level 4 with 2 teams promoted into the Premier Intermediate league. The last play off is between the 3 divisions into the Down Area Winter league with 3 teams going from the playoff. Cups Were a little more difficult due to some being based on region and this option isn't available in the basic rules. Irish Cup is essentially as is with a slightly more rigid divisions included rather than 'paid intermediate entry or invite' for lower teams. I've dropped reserve teams from Intermediate Cup and Steel & Sons cup for simplicity, Regional FA cups exist in a manner but please note I had to select specific teams so promotion/relegation of teams wont make much of a change here for senior cups like CA Shield etc. All NAFL and MUFL cups are included with as best as I could, Ballymena and North West Cups exists but I had to drop some of the lesser cups due to fixture congestion and the season never finishing/overrunning All lower leagues have at least one cup competition again a lot were dropped due to fixture congestion and season ranges. I have also dropped the Danske Premier European playoff system again due to fixture congestion and over running season dates. Testing Obviously there could always be some tricky things in extending league, i have run this file for 5 individual single year test and 2 three year tests without any issues. Things to note Most teams are amateur and do run on very limited budgets so all are around equal in the Clubs > Finances section and after a couple of years you might find some of the bottom tier teams are suddenly worth similar to the 3rd/4th tier teams, this is because the boards have either bought , moved into or built stadiums so this isn't something I could control. The pyramid structure beyond 4th tier is best guess and logical to the regional 'boundaries' for example Carnbane and Lonsdale feeding into Mid Ulster as the majority of their teams are from the region, or Coleraine feeding into Ballymena and Provincial league etc. Cup have been trimmed back due to some complexities but all league do have a cup to enter into. Thanks and please enjoy. Any feedback is welcome and if i get the time I'll try and fix things where I can. Radz Northern Ireland Extended League System (FINAL)_13B7DA97-3467-4102-8E12-97B1E7B360FB.fmf

Hello and welcome to my latest venture (one im well into now). This save is based on the concept of Youth Only. Its based in Northern Ireland and sees me managing a team called Tobermore United. Id like to thank @Raware for the recent advice etc. Let me introduce the save... Game: Football Manger 2017 (17.1.2) Database Size: Large League Loaded: Northern Ireland England (Vanarama North/South and above) France (View Only) Spain (View Only) Scotland (View Only) Italy (View Only) Germany (View Only) Previous Experience: Sunday morning football (literally) with NO licenses At the start of the save, Cliftonville are the highest rated team in N.Ireland. It will be one of the save ambitions to one day surpass them.

Hi All, For anyone interested I am currently in the process of building a custom extended Northern Irish league system. I am currently working on an initial file that I will upload that will include all regional divisions and clubs but no structure that if you want you can use as a base to create your own league structures. I'll aim to populate as much information as I can gather re stadiums etc although this gets tough past around level 5/6 when we start getting into pub teams etc. I then intend on uploading 2 different league structures, one with current NI money/rep and one alternate reality version where after Sky lost all English premier rights to a BT bid they opted that after NI's breakthrough tournament in France to equal the monies received for TV to NI clubs to help improve the clubs and talent coming through...second one is obviously just for a bit of fun to see what would happen should the phenomenal amount of money going into England would do if it went to a lower tier nation Most people will be aware there isn't much of an official pyramid past tier 4 although the tier four divisions do have extended structures underneath its a bit sketchy with qualifying rules etc. on how to get teams up and down the pyramid. So with this in mind I will be taking a little bit of artistic license on how to get it to operate in the most logical way based on regions. Leagues included will be as follows: Northern Irish Football League Northern Amateur Football League Mid Ulster Football League Ballymena and Provincial Football League Northern Irish Intermediate League Fermanagh and Western Football League Belfast and District Football League North West Junior Football League North West Saturday Morning League Newcastle and District Football League Carnbane (Newry) Football League Linsdale Football League Belfast Sunday Morning Football Ballymena Saturday Morning Football League Coleraine and District Football League Down Area Winter Football League Hutchinson Tiles Winter League South Antrim Football League I have currently populated down to what would be (roughly speaking) level 11 with a remaining 4-5 levels to go. A major point to note the further down the pyramid is a LOT of Reserve, 3rd and even 4th teams so unless strictly stated as a reserve league i.e. NAFL 3A-F, I will keep the division in the pyramid as in most cases there are top teams mixed in amongst the reserves (small nation effect) I actually think it makes t a bit of fun if your main club gets up to the top level but you can also play lower tier with your reserves as well I'll keep this thread updated with progress and files when they come. Cheers Radz

Year 2017. Lviv, Ukraine. A local IT company creates a robot with AI - RoboMan (Robotic Manager). The main idea was to make an experiment whether the AI robot can become a successful football manager. RoboMan was sent to Northern Ireland to take control of a local football club that was promoted to the 3rd tier after season 2016/2017. RoboMan has to do the impossible - win the Champions League with youth products. And the story begins...

Hey hey, Hope am posting in the right place.......... So, I took over Bangor in the Northern Irish 2nd tier and straight off the bat was only able to sign players on a non - contract basis. This was quite annoying throughout the season as other clubs could come in at anytime to poach my players. Despite this, we achieved promotion at the first attempt and the first thing the board did was set an initial wage budget of around 5k p/w for my next season in the premier (up from about 1k in my first season). I assumed that such a massive jump in the amount of money available for wages would automatically allow me to at least offer part time contracts but this doesn't seem to be the case (still can only offer non-contract terms). Am not raising this as a bug right now as I guess there could be some real world reason but if anyone from SI thinks it is an issue then please let me know and I'll raise it in the bugs forum. Thanks.