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This happened against me on my FM2017 Arsenal Save, thought it was highly amusing to see the defender pass back to the keeper expecting him to clear it but ended up kicking it straight at him causing the ball to roll into his own net.
Hello, I have been thinking of what to do with the FM17 Beta and have decided, rather unimaginatively, to take over Arsenal for a season or two to get used to the game, like I've done for most versions of FM. In the past I've opened threads here at this stage to unleash my tactic ramblings, most notably Özil + 10, a tactical exercise on FM14 with Arsenal, and this should be the FM17 version of this, basically. Although I want to keep my writing much shorter this time. Please notice THIS IS NOT A GUIDE, this is not meant to teach anyone how to play the game, in fact I'm routinely pretty unsuccessful whenever I attempt these short careers with big teams. This is more like a brainstorming exercise to trade some ideas with other people either also managing this club, or attempting to play similar systems. For now as I'm writing this I don't have access to the Beta yet, but I think I have a pretty good idea of what Arsenal are like and don't expect to be massively surprised by how the players are like in the database. I've identified the following strenghts and weaknesses in the side: Strenghts - Excellent creative ability, technique, ability to keep ball and operate in tight spaces - 2 particular world class players in Mesut Ozil and Alexis Sanchez - Generally highly complete players throughout the squad, capable of performing more than a specific role - Quality players at rushing from deep in Aaron Ramsey and Hector Bellerin - Pace upfront, specially in rotational players like Theo Walcott, albeit it should be difficult to use this pace as we'll have many matches where the opposition park the bus - A quality forward for holding up the ball and creating space for others in Olivier Giroud Weaknesses - General lack of aggression, physicality, height which could be highly problematic in a highly physical league - Lack of reliable goalscorer and clear penetration outlets in the area - Some older players at the back that, whilst it's a stretch to call them "slow", might be unable to operate a high line at a truly world class level Therefore, my initial idea for a system is this rather standard 4-2-3-1: GK - GK/D: Cech DL - FB/S: Monreal DC - CB/D: Koscielny DC - CB/D: Mustafi DR - WB/S: Bellerin DMCL - DM/S: Xhaka MCR - BBM/S: Ramsey AML - IF/A: Alexis AMC - T/A: Ozil AMR - WP/S: Cazorla ST - DLF/S: Giroud Control Very Fluid Reasons: - I want to maximize my strenghts as much as possible by playing Alexis and Ozil in their preferred positions and building the team around them. - Likewise I just want to play my better players as much as possible, and I see this as the best way to fit in all 3 of Ramsey, Cazorla and Xhaka whom I believe should be my 3 strongest midfielders (although I will need to go through player profiles in a bit more detail when I get the game). - "Very Fluid" is something I haven't tried in a very long time and generally stay away from, but considering just how complete all my players are (all offensive players are both capable of creating and scoring, defensive players like Xhaka and the fullbacks are very capable at attacking) it seems to fit. Also I've been inspired by @LPQR's success with Stuttgart with a very fluid 3-4-1-2. - Alexis, Ozil, Cazorla and Giroud, all being highly gifted players, should be able to play in the demanding, adventurous, high-ish-tempo game of the Control mentality, in the tight spaces around the area. - Different roles and dynamics between each wing to encourage variety, stretch the pitch, and open up different angles of attack. - No TIs or PIs at the beginning to start with a simple base, and then add things as I react to what I see happening on the pitch. Possible problems and tweaks: - This is a very attacking setup and I need to be extremely careful to be sure I'm not overcommiting players forward. Depending on how this plays out, if Bellerin and Ramsey both run forward and Cazorla is too high up, I could be caught out on the counter with a 4-6 split, only 4 players remaining in defensive position which can be too few. - If the opposition decides not to go for the counter but to try to pin us back by pressing aggressively and beating us at our own possession game, we don't have a good defensive shape to deal with this with the wingers high up (depending on whether on FM17 AMR/AMLs still don't track back to MR/ML positions). This may necessitate a change of formation for these matches, whether a 4-3-3 with Ozil shoved to the right wing and Cazorla pulled back into MC, a 4-3-1-2/narrow diamond with Ozil behind a Alexis/Giroud striker partnership, or a flat 4-4-2 to defend with 2 banks of four. - I'm undecided whether the more cautious Xhaka is most needed on the centre-left to cover for Alexis' attacking role, or on the centre-right to cover for Bellerin's runs - I may need to switch my DM/MC's left-to-right. I went for this initial option as I see us creating some serious overloads down the right wing with Bellerin, Cazorla, Ramsey and Ozil; we'd lose this if I move Ramsey centre-left (also he'd probably run into Alexis' space). - There may not be enough attacking outlets for goalscoring, beyond Alexis (my intended primary threat), the odd goal by Giroud and rare late runs from Ramsey. A possible solution might be to move aside Ozil to the wing, and introduce another runner from AMC. - Conversely, whilst I trust the superb creativity of my players, it may prove to be too much to ask from them to break down packed defences from such advanced positions. "Drop deeper" looks a very good TI to add (beyond opening up space to playmake in, this would also aid with our slow-ish defence, and to help us unleash our pacey attackers); possibly I could also lower the tempo or mentality. - I'm intentionally starting without any possession-oriented TIs, to avoid our team becoming too addicted to sideways passing, but our best game is obviously with the ball on our feet and I will watch closely to see if we're not too direct. Very good odds I'll add "play out of defence", if not enough then also "pass shorter". - This initial gameplan isn't great to take the best out of my squad depth, as I see Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Welbeck, Iwobi, mostly all as best fitting for alternatives to Alexis' role, and there's no clear Cazorla substitute as WP. I'll need to either readjust my plan to all these players, or hit the transfer market to sort this out. - Beyond Giroud and the CBs we don't have much aerial threat on set pieces - I might consider a short corner routine if I feel we're wasteful on them. Ideas and comments are welcome.
Hello, I am new to the forum, and I wish to report an issue regarding the typical 'Crash Dump' error which many FM players seem to be experiencing at some point. My error seems rather unique, though - whenever I attempt to access the Arsenal players as a Manager, I receive a Crash Dump error, which is incredibly infuriating as it prevents me from carrying on with my match. I have included a screenshot series file to depict exactly what is happening, along with an error Report file. Hopefully someone will get back to me soon, cheers! FM Error Report.txt
So I bought Higuain at the start of the game for a mix of attack from Giroud and to give someone to challenge him. Walcott is much more useful on the wing. But he has been just genuinely shocking rubbish. I've tried him in CF, DLF, Poacher, and AF. Best result was a paltry 7.3 over 15 games, usually 6.9 or lower. Occasionally he'll crack an accurate long range that gets blocked but most of what I am seeing is dribbling to the edge of the box and losing his nerve to a bad pass, smashing it at the keeper from 6 meters, or blowing absolute sitters. Like hitting the post from the centre of the 6 yard box with no keeper!!! I've tried to warn him, be aggressive, and be coddling because it turns out he's a nervous wimp. I tried building confidence by putting him on penalties and giving him some goals to pop his cherry, nothing helps. I've tried a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-1-2-3 with ozil or cazorla feeding him endless good balls, he gets the occasional cross knocked in from 1 meter but giroud can do that 10 times better. Any input on better use?