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Thank you for the tips - just create an away tactic which I'll trial and tweak over the next few away games and see how it goes - Barcelona away in the next game as good as any place to start! Did get a 2-2 draw away to Real Madrid using my other (Home) tactic though although we were under the cosh a fair bit. Just watched the goal back several times - for some reason my right back got dragged over to the left hand side of the pitch (need to check set piece takers etc) and my right hand sided centre half got dragged out to right back. As my right back got himself back into position my centre half didnt shift across leaving the gap. So the issue with my right back which I need to investigate more caused it but would have hoped my centre back would have got back into position quicker - centre backs dont have PI's. Number 12 is my right back in below screenshot and 6 and 4 as centre halves. West Brom were playing 4231 and actually the first goal was pretty similar (although with the real extreme gap) and came from their centre forward taking up a position between my two centre backs - a long ball came forward and my centre half went to challenge the striker and got beaten leaving a one on one. Many thanks for the advice - much appreciated and has got me giving my tactics a bit more thought and doing things like analysing goals conceded to see where I can improve things.

We did see much better movement in that game - felt like the players had much better options on the ball and transitioned from back to front in a much more fluid manner. Followed that up with a horrid performance away to West Brom - 12 shots a piece and equal possession but just couldnt seem to get control of the game and lost 2-1 with a hole the size of the grand canyon in between my two centre backs. Is there any specific tweaks you would make to away games to get better control of those games?

Thanks @13th Man and @Experienced Defender for the suggestions. Have changed my set up to a regista in the DM position with Neri playing in their and Mijatovic as a mezzala and add the split block onto the front three and mezzala to see how that goes. One game in so far - North London Derby v Spurs and won 2-0 15 shots to their 10. So an encouraging start - the teams passing, movement and interplay instantly feels a bit sharper than previously after 6 defeats in a row with only 2 goals scored!! Wasnt perfect in the Spurs game but hopefully have a base from which I can start to tweak from based on what is actually happening in the games. One question I do have is my inside forward - screen shot below - in my first couple of seasons he was just gliding past players at will and generally terrorising players meaning he created lots of goals and scored loads - for last 12 months he seems to just run into players or is too tentative and almost waits for the defender to tackle him. Is there anything I can do to help he recreate his previous form? @bezzy1970 Its called Base21 Dark (FM 20) skin - I have to play the game with stadium photos so it was one of the ones I found when googling this that lets me do that! Many thanks,

Many thanks for the responses - I have attached some screenshots of my midfielders below just to add a bit more context to who I was using in the system. I tend to use Rice or Neri has the half back, Kidane as the deep lying play maker and Mijatovic as the central midfielder on attack. Valdir I tend to use in a couple positions when rotating. I have tried Kidane and Neri as the two midfielders in front of the half back however Kidane has poor finishing so didnt feel he suited the central midfielder role and Neri has come deep for the ball as a trait which I also felt made him unsuitable for that role.

I really need some help with setting up a team tactically. I cant get a result out of anywhere - I am using the tactic in my initial post except with a deep lying forward on attack duty and lost 4 on the bounce scoring only 2 goals. My team is packed full of world class players in even position. It just doesnt seem right that given the quality of player I have and using a balanced tactic following a lot of the advice on here on how to set up a tactic that I can be so bad. We are terrible we look terrible structurally, not organised as a defensive unit, can't keep possession and absolutely toothless going forward. Cant get any sort of performance out of my central midfielders who seem to get around 6.4 every game and pass up good simple attacking passes in favour of just hitting long balls straight to the opposition. And the opposition teams are so much slicker than me - good transitionsm, sharp finishing, move up and down the team as a unit and this is any team including the teams in 20th and 19th in the league who both beat me easily in successive games. The thing I'm really struggling with is given the quality of player and my reasonable balanced tactic why are things so bad? Any help greatly appreciated as close to tossing the game in the bin and walking away as never felt in 25 years of playing the game as clueless about setting up tactics as I have now. And not looking for a magic tactic but I just cant see what I'm doing so radically wrong to cause such bad performances and results given my players and tactics. Thanks.

I just dont understand how to get tactics working on this game. I am using the above tactic (with a deep lying forward on attack) packed full of world class players (all of them well suited to in theory create a well balanced team) and I just cant get any sort of result away from home. Every team I play away from home looks like 1970's Brazil whilst my team looks like a non-league team. I just dont understand what I am doing wrong. Just played a poor Bournemouth team away from home and lost 3-0 with them having 19 shots and me 5 - posession was relatively equal. I just dont get how to make tactics work on this game.

Yes I have been having exact same issue with my DLP and CM(a) - really bad average ratings despite top quality players. Thanks @Experienced Defender and @Keyzer Soze for the advice just in pre season but will make a change to a more creative striker role and see how that goes. Thanks,

Hey All, I would be very much appreciative if somebody could take a look at my tactic below and offer me some advice. I'm Arsenal in 2028 - I won the league last season playing a 433 which had aggressive off the ball instructions (Very high defensive level, more urgent pressing and counter press) and the effectiveness started to wear off towards the end of last season and beginning of this season so tried to start developing a more rounded and less aggressive tactic. First half of the season went ok but form dropped off massively with only 4 wins in the last 14 (all at home against big teams - Man United, Barcelona, Liverpool and PSG). Struggled hugely away from home both this season and last season as well (last season I had a goal difference of +46 at home and +1 away from home). In terms of style of play - I want to be pretty solid as a team, decent possession but not looking to pass teams to death and good coherent attacking play with front players linking up well to create chances both through crosses and through balls. Have a really high quality of player through the team - no obvious weaknesses - good defenders, plenty of good passers, dribblers, finishers, etc. Happy to share screenshots of any key players to the system etc. Below is my tactic as it stands now and then also the match stats from my last three games to show inconsistency of how we perform against big sides at home compared to how we play against smaller teams and away from home. Only player instructions are for the two wide attackers to close down more to achieve the split press with the pressing forward. Any advice or tweaks or weakness/contridictions in the tactic would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,

Just to add to this I am seeing the same thing - managing in England and upgraded scouting package to the whole world but not allowing me to scout outside previous package without paying extra.

With transfers I have had problems with my board. They are devastated that I failed to bring in any high profile players despite not giving me any transfer budget and having to reduce the weekly wage bill by £20k to come within budget. Like the issue you had everything isn’t linking up and being taken into consideration. I'm enjoying the match engine on the new game but feel there are lots of niggles and things not quite working right that affect the overall gameplay and don’t feel like the interface is as intuitive and easy to navigate as FM20. Another niggle was I had a poor season last year and got called in front of the board maybe 10 times and everytime I gave the answer stick to the plan and they said yes we agree etc. Sure this is a bug I should report just feels like there are lots of these little issues in FM21 where lots of features just aren’t working quite right.

Yeah I think every single loan offer I have made over 2 seasons the club have insisted on a particular position and role and if you remove it they reject the offer. So becomes the choice between completing the loan on a less than idea basis or settling for lower quality players. Have had quite a few players recalled because been playing them in a different role than agreed even though playing them in the same position.

Playing a lower league game interactions on player loans is incredibly irritating. I continually have managers of the clubs where I loaned players from complaining to me that I am not playing the player in the agreed position. Its in absurd scenarios such as it was agreed a player would be played in central midfield as an advanced playmaker but I am actually playing them as a deep lying playmaker. Surely the whole point of the roles is just to give a tactical framework for individual players. The way the loan system is working at the moment is like its publicly declared what "role" each player plays within a team which just isn't realistic. In real life if you loan a player from a club the style of football that the club is playing and that the player is getting regular minutes is far more important. Yes if you loan a midfielder and are playing them at right back that could be an issue but the "role" a player is playing would not even be known as its purely a method of giving players standard instructions for a style of play. Feels horribly unrealistic and added to this I get the same managers every few weeks complaining about this I say they are playing a lot so whats the issue and then they respond saying I understand your position. And then 3 weeks later complain again! Think this interaction needs to be looked at and tweaked as very unrealistic at the moment and miles away from what happens in real life.

Just about ready to throw my laptop out of the window and give up on the game altogther! Just cant score goals and no idea how to get my team scoring goals! Plenty of quality attacking players but only 24 goals in 28 games. I use simple logical tactics with players in the right positions and have tried making small tweaks to try and solve the issue but no difference. Strikers with good finishing and composure stats in great positions never taking chances and normally just rolling the ball back to the goalkeeper. Wingers either not crossing or take an age to get a cross in. Wingers and full backs not squaring the ball when other players in great positions and easy to find. Players shooting miles wide from stupid positions even when there are players in much better positions and a simple pass would find them. I have just completely run out of ideas - any help anyone can give on how to score more goals will be greatly appreciated otherwise I think that will be it for me with this game - does seem unfeasibly difficult to score goals on this game.

Many thanks both - I will give this a try tonight and see how it goes.

Thanks Both - below is my full back would he be considered a good option as inverted full back? And on what duty would you suggest? Thanks