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19.2.0 beta is release,i heard ppl said its "tiki-tika friendly" now.
this is patch note for 19.2.0 beta (in chinese):
http://www.playgm.cn/thread-920355-1-1.html1 -
2 hours ago, changyouqing said:
单刀成功率很高的，可以去看我的B站视频
我明白，我只是帮忙赚贴。
这或许和你如何设定有关系0 -
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https://defendingwiththeball.wordpress.com/tag/pep-guardiola/
“Don’t mark a player; cover the space between two players. The opponent thinks he’s unmarked, making pressing easier.” Pep Guardiola’s mantras
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22 minutes ago, Jyuan83 said:
The key to guardiola’s man city team is in getting the wingers to stretch the defence for the channels to open up for the two “8”s in david silva and bernardo to exploit with their runs and passing. The wingers also exploit the gaps between the fb and cb and either score goals from good passes from the two playmakers or to cutback across goal for a tap-in. The wingers only enter the box when a killing blow is imminent. From the vid by @kpsia518 sane stayed wide as much as possible until the last possible moment so that the channels remains stretched for the maximum possible exploitation by the playmakers. I would just go with ML/R and put them as roam and stay wider with wm(a). AML/R will always converge too early. Those are wide striker spots anyway.
& another thing:
https://spielverlagerung.com/2017/08/04/tactical-theory-the-various-methods-of-dismarking/
use the 3rd man...0 -
6 minutes ago, yonko said:
Good video.
A few notes:
- spacing of the players, how spread out they are
- movement off the ball to support
- decisions when to penetrate/when to recycle
- tempo of play, no one is holding the ball too long, 1-2-3 touch play
This is one passage of play though. Not the whole game, every game, type of tactic.
In FM terms based on this video I would say:
- Low team mentality aka risk
- short passing
- quicker tempo
- dribble less
- more disciplined
& one thing,don't let opponent camp the penalty box.
pep :"anyone can go into the boxes,but no one should stay inside."how do we tell player to fall back when attack ?
i think this is important for pep tactic,don't let opponent camp the penalty box.
look at the video,after city enter the final third,but they got no room to attack.So they all fall back.
fall back,so try to pull United player up,this make final third a no man land
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learning city's player positioning
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look at this,Silva run forward in between Shaw & lindelof.
& Mahrez stay so wide,this is important.
A.Young can't mark two player.1 -
17 hours ago, NabsKebabs said:
there is no option to block passing lanes as a pressing style in the game...so our best bet when playing the high block in FM is to man mark in order to force the turn over of possession.
1st,we much do some thing like this ,triangles.
positioning is the key,attacking & defending.
your defend is start when your attack.
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13 hours ago, Mitja said:
i think it's really hard to talk about % when you have things like off the ball movement (like opening or running towards the ball) and basic defending rules not working properly let alone more complicated stuff like positional play or different pressing styles. 5 or 6 years ago, heck even 2 i would have thought we will be able to replicate different styles of football. progress of ME is minimal and cosmetic, personally i find it downgrade to fm17, half of instrcutions don't even do what they say.
positioning is the key for positional play.Looks like player move too much in FM19.
& player retreat too much when i don't what they do it.
"Stick to positions" been remove in FM19.
So it take more time to control player movement.1 -
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pressing in FM19,look same like this,NETHERLANDS OF 1974 HUNTING FOR THE BALL :
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“Don’t mark a player, cover the space between two players.”
– Pep Guardiola
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3 hours ago, yonko said:
If you have failed and haven't been able to recreate anything more than 0% (by your own words), then why advice others how much it is possible to recreate Pep's tactic?
If you say only 50-60% is possible then I would assume you have achieved that. Do you know what I mean?
You post a lot informative analysis of Pep's tactic IRL, so which is that 50-60% that can be replicated and how do you know it can be done? Have you done it? You said 0%. Why? Where do you fail?
Pep's style is positional play, it is not tiki-taka. So if we can't recreate the positional play, there is not 50-60%. It is the whole 100%.
The truth is that we can recreate some element of his positional style but not the whole thing. The funny thing is we could if we still had wobble/wobble screen if you know or remember what those were. Cause we can position the players how we want in different areas of the field. But that ME is long gone now.
You can “write in the paper” but it won’t work.
i agree with this,i'm unhappy with how the team pressing in FM19
pressing & closing down is the big big issue in FM19,there is a bug there.
i hope they fix this issue 1st before we talk more about other thing1 -
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转帖某位中国玩家的感想，（我只是帮忙转帖的）：
Quote因为我喜欢足球，而你们又是唯一的足球教练游戏，我就不点差评了。然后，以下进入正题。
说实话，你们这游戏要改的地方实在太多了，就仅仅说些我最不能忍受的两点吧。
第一点：中路直塞。
我玩的是442小菱形中场（用你们的话说应该是：442 Diamond，就暂且简称442D吧。），然后呢？我想打中路直塞，我知道现在足坛中路直塞导致进球的情况相对比较少，可也不能一次也不能成功吧。我就喜欢中路直塞，可从来就没成功过。
我能理解你们的想法：因为中路直塞进球现实中也比较少，所以你们也想模拟这种情况。
具体上你们是这么做的。
首先，你们把防守方的兵力向中间集中，这样就比较没有空档，可是边路无形中就空了啊，然后怎么解决呢，你们解决的方式简单而粗暴：进攻方的边后卫套边插上的时候，坚决不传中，一定会带两步或停一下，等防守方的防守人员跑过来再传中，这样导致的结果就是大多数传中被防守方挡出底线。以此来解决防守方中路紧缩会导致进攻方传中次数过多，从而因概率上攻击方传中过份犀利的问题。
可是这样的话，你们不觉得一场比赛下来，会给对方完全不合理的角球数量吗？偶尔一场可以理解，但场场如此，不觉得不合理吗？还有一些角球给的我简直无力吐槽，攻击方在离防守方40米的距离传球（差不多是在中线附近了），踢到对方球员身上，然后那个球滚了40来米出了底线，我看了那么多比赛，这种事，我还从来没见过……真是荒谬……
事实上正因为你们是这么做，才让因为角球而导致进球的画面屡见不鲜，让人麻木。
我开档一支球队，目前打了10多轮联赛，第一射手是一个有远射能力的中场球员，远射进了4个，第二射手是一个中后卫，进了3个，第三射手是另一个中后卫，进了2个，还有两个中后卫一人进了一个，这些中后卫全是头球进的。有意思吗？
这到底是足球比赛，还是定位球比赛？那些让人激动的、精巧的、赞叹的中路短传配合撕破空档呢？没有了……
我知道你们是想模拟现实，因为现今足坛上传中比较强，所以你们就强制让别人更多的传中，把中路关得死死的。只是，你们为什么要这么做呢？为什么不把这个选择的权力交给玩家？让玩家根据球队球员的能力来选择到底是用什么战术呢？
你们表面上战术面板里都有各种现成的战术，可是无论怎么选，中路直塞就是塞不进去。说实话，你们这个调整，还不如FM2017的时候，那个版本里，只要好好调整，还是能打出各种中路直塞的战术来的。到了FM2018直塞就变得相当艰难了，到了这个FM2019版本里，直塞等于不可能。
不管是一项运动，还是一个游戏，都一定要各种战术百花齐放才能长寿，如果只是各种单调的传中的话，那这项运动/游戏也就离关门不远了。因为你相当于放弃了喜欢其它战术的玩家，譬如像我这样喜欢中路直塞的。
说实话，我现在玩游戏都是‘跳过比赛’，各种定位球有什么好看的？画面各种重复！我觉得我已经开始有些后悔买FM2019了。
我不是在强制要求你们提高中路直塞的成功率，而只是在告诉你们上述的事实。把选择的权力交给玩家。你们表面上各种战术都貌似很丰富，可事实上，基本只有传中一条路，因为中路直塞是塞不进去的，即便塞进去了，放心吧，你的前锋有极高的概率踢飞这个球。
我是不是在说谎，我相信你们很容易就可以查出来，因为我的游戏时间摆在那里，你们只要查询一下我这个帐号中FM2018和FM2019的游戏时间就很清楚了。实话告诉你们，我现在偶尔还会玩一下FM2017。
另外，我的边后卫总是喜欢插到禁区里，可事实上，我点了‘抱紧边路’，我不明白他为什么总是要往禁区里跑，我是单边路啊，边后卫进了禁区如果一旦丢球，就相当于边路空了，为此我被迫把边后卫-进攻，改成策应。这才让情况稍稍好转了一点点。
其二：再说说单刀。
我开档的是低级别联赛，然后呢，我的前锋无论多么好的机会，总是踢不进去，一开始我以为是前锋的能力问题，毕竟我的前锋能力上的确不是很出色，于是我很无耻地动用了核武，把前锋的射门能力大幅提高，然并卵，结果是一样的。
当你看正式比赛的时候，一方球员获得单刀机会，你一定会听到解说员在激动地说道：“啊，XX获得了单刀，他现在往禁区里突……”
为什么解说员会激动？如果获得一个任意球，解说员会不会这么激动？很明显不会，因为单刀意味着进球的概率极高，而任意球进球的概率相对就低得多了。
而游戏中呢？各种单刀不进，别说什么球员能力问题，我已经动用核武把我的前锋改成一个变态了。就这样还是踢不进去。我能说什么？
如果你们想解决这个问题，那你们应该通过战术来调整这个问题，譬如说让防守方的中卫犯规啊，铲抢啊，什么的，来解决这个问题，而不是强制让这个前锋往天上踢或往守门员身上踢。
当然，这个也要合理，在FM2016中就出现过极其不合理的情况，我的前锋爆发力16，速度15，单刀进了禁区，注意，已经进了禁区，这时防守方从中圈跑过来一个中场，以风一般的速度抢断了我的前锋的球，当时我真的是大为惊讶，这人的速度得有多快啊，然后我点开那人的属性，那个防守方的中场爆发力7，速度8……我能说什么？
你们不能总是这么强制游戏中的球员来达到你们模拟现实的目的！这会杀死我们玩家的乐趣和心情！！！
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another issue is pressing issue.we got 4 type of high pressing style:
Quote1) Heynckes’ manoriented
2) Klopp’s space-oriented
3) Guardiola’s passing lane oriented
4) Adi Hütter’s balloriented
so far we only saw ball-oriented high pressing in the game.
can't wait to see some body success to create other pressing style& so far M.E 19.12 is "tiki-taka unfriendly".
low block counter,or English style football is best in this ME.3 -
1st,look at this pic,
we got 3 fase,
Phase 1 — playing out from the back and playing the first opponent/defender away.
Phase 2— penetrate through either central, half-space or wide-area.
Phase 3 — Get shots inside and outside danger-zone, by low crosses, high crosses, straight crosses, chip-balls, cutbacks, dribbles, combinations etc.
Phase 1 & Phase 2 follow the rules.(& the rules is stay in position & don't move at all cost)
Phase 3 no rules,you can do every thing.
the main issue for pep style.
1)in Phase 2,how to tell player stay in position :
look at the red dot,how to tell player stay in position ?
stay in position & don't move too far ?
2) why pep style can pressing so effective ?
because positional play,player don't need to move too far to chase/press the ball.
& that why stay in position is main problem.
3) how to pin IF/w at wide area ?
this is another issue i face,how to pin IF/w at wide area & don't move ?!
so far,i success to get 70~80% possession,but fail to get the right attacking play.2 -
18 minutes ago, yonko said:
So why then tell others that only 50-60% is possible? Which parts are possible and which aren't? What is this 50-60%?
I mean due to ME issue,so WE only can do 50~60%.
i didn't mean,you are poor or somebody is poor,or some thing like this...PLZ don't miss understanding
QuoteWhat is this 50-60% ?
because we can't make "positional play" happen in this ME.
without "positional play",that means its not pep style.
so that is what i means "we only can 50-60%"...2 -
for me 0 %,i try & fail...
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i think impossible to make pep style in FM19.
watch this,to learn why :
we may only make 50~60% of pep style.
50~60% = still fake pep style.4
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Covid19 in FM2021 ??
happy to see the message : " due to covid19, football have been ban for 8 month."
then we click next next next, for 8 month.
this is good experience