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    Possession in fm 22

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Fragnat

    15 hours ago, Ö-zil to the Arsenal! said:


    To me, the important thing is to find a good balance between keeping the ball and winning the ball.

    The issue with opposition defenders endlessly passing the ball between themselves and racking up 100+ passes whilst completely shutting the game down in the BETA led me to focus on pressing.

    So far, my approach has been:

    1. High defensive line, high line of engagement, high pressing triggers
    2. OIs to close down and mark opposition central defenders and holding midfielders
    3. Prioritise players with high work rate, stamina and team work
    4. Adapt your team to the opposition
      • I am still really struggling with opponents playing a back 3
    5. Press collectively

    Hope this helps!

    Adjusting the opposition instructions has actually improved it, not a perfect but very tangible. Would love if you did a write up on this, thanks.

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    Possession in fm 22

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

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    12 hours ago, Ö-zil to the Arsenal! said:

    Surprised to see so many comments about pressing still not working correctly since the official release. Based on my experience so far, it seems to be a big improvement.

    Like many, during the BETA I struggled *big time* to get on the ball and even shut down the game in frustration after seeing each opposition centre back get 100+ passes, dominate possession whilst creating nothing whatsoever.

    Since the official release, however, I have not struggled anywhere near as much.

    Limited sample size, but these are my pre-season reports.


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    My game plan has been collective, possession-based football with high pressing and short passing. I've experimented with a couple of different shapes; mostly 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3 and 3-4-2-1.

    Only Dortmund and Monchengladbach were able to out-pass us. I think the first was just quality of players and the second we struggled structurally to get enough pressure on the 3-man opposition defence.

    It seems to me like players just need to be much more 'belt and braces' in their pressing. By that, I mean setting your tactics correctly, but also opposition instructions, choosing the right players etc. Gone are the days of just saying 'close down more' and watching Mesut Ozil or Cristiano Ronaldo cover every blade of grass like N'golo Kante :applause:

    I find myself struggling to get possession especially vs lower level teams and overall dont create much chances with the shorter passes, how do you archive this?

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    The Art of Possession Football

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

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    I'm currently managing FC United in League 2, playing a possession-based tactic. It's a 4-1-2-3 DM which has been good for the last 3-4 seasons with two consecutive promotions and a good debut-season in League 2 (predicted 22th, finished 7th). The second season in League started great but after 15 matches or so things started to change and I dropped down from 1th to 10th. Problem is, I really don't know where to start tweaking the tactic. When I watch the games in real-time I notice this:

    * The players are going way too quickly forward with and without the ball.

    * F9 isn't available in the build up and ends up isolated.

    * Defenders always clears the ball even if there's no pressure on them.

    * Winger and IF also gets isolated.

    How I want to play is something like this:

    * Press high and close down the opponent inside their own half, while still controll the match with a high ballpossession and slow build-up, much like Pep's Barca.

    * I want the winger/IF to provide width and stretch the opponents defence in order to make space for the midfield and F9 so they build attacks.

    * One attacking fullback to provide width when the IF gets inside and the other supporting the winger.

    * Halfback for defensive cover and as a player who can circulate the ball when in possession.

    Here's the roles and instructions. I also use PI: W, IF and F9 --> Mark tighter.

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    You have so many instructions to retain possession. Retain, Shorter, Play out of Defense, Work ball into box. Id start by getting rid from some of them. Also you have look for overlap, might be wrong here but how does look for overlap work with W/A? There is no really penetration instructions, such as pass into space or something of the sort. Basically you are making it so that its really easy to play against you by sitting deep and letting you have possession while countering you.

    But thats just me. Just start by making it simpler if I were you.

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    Quickfire Questions and Answers Thread (Tactic and Training Questions Only)

    in Tactics, Training & Strategies Discussion

    Posted

    Well ask yourself if you want Ozil / Chamberlain to be a focal point of the system or not. If you do want them to receive the ball more, then go for AP. However - make sure that the AP (S) in the MC line is on the opposite side (i.e. MCL) to avoid them "clustering" together.

    Yeah the AP S is on the opposite side. I guess I'd rather the RMD be the focal point so IF is better?

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