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  1. Love the WOF against those pesky super defensive 4-1-4-1 I encounter in almost every game after a while. If I don't play against those formations I use the PILGRIMAGE and it's a great combination for my Dortmund side.
  2. @knap which one of your tactics would you say does the best against 4-2-3-1 wide that the AI managers usually play and causes this formation more trouble than anything else? Maybe your 4-4-2? Would probably help with the overload on the wings through pushing up wingbacks?
  3. Just as an update, while I was struggling a bit with Dortmund in my first season the second season was as amazing as I remember this tactic, beating Barca in the final of the CL easily with 4-1. The only tactics that really give me a tiny bit of trouble are the 4-2-3-1 formations which double up on my WB, since they are always without help it's kinda difficult to manage these situations at times. Still I usually manage to outscore these teams.
  4. Totally having the same problem but with Argus 343 btw. Was absolutely cruising with Dortmund only the occasional narrow game against Bayern but then I encountered Manchester United and they tore me apart in both games 1-4 at Old Trafford and 0-2 at home. Games against the 4-2-3-1 always seem by far the hardest, especially if they patiently shuffle the ball around and push up their FBs like Man Utd does.
  5. Has this tactic become weaker over the last couple patches? Seems like I really struggle against strong teams playing 4-2-3-1. Losing all those games home and away where I could beat better teams even comfortably before.
  6. I was genuinely curious why this is a question that is in every thread. Like I said I started to think I might be missing something because I thought I was missing something and that certain way of playing maybe required a certain way of training but imo the training in the game is lacking a bit in that department and training doesn't make much difference outside from personal training from players. That being said I think generally pre-season prep does not depends on your tactic. What you want to achieve in pre-season is always the same, get your players into top condition and make the comfortable playing with each other. So my advice would be to always go with fitness training first while no matches are played, once your Tour or pre-season games starts and you are playing games every 2 or 3 days switch to team cohesion until the season starts after that go with balanced on average and lower it for congested weeks.
  7. Why do people ask this in every thread? Do you mean match prep? I'm seriously confused here since there really is no benefit from training anything else but fitness, team cohesion and balanced and after that set up the individual training to whatever you want your players to improve in. Yet this question is in every downloadable tactic thread as if training somehow depends on the tactic you play. What am I missing here?
  8. Well here is how I see it in a very simplified way. Mentality determines basically the urgency and risk you take by passing the ball forward as well as your aggressiveness in terms of closing down. From contain as the most risk averse and slow approach to build up to overload as the just hammer the ball forward and full field press approach. Now structure determines how many players will take part in this behavior. Looking at your tactic I would say the approach is like this. Attack structured will primarily launch the ball forward to your three strikers and hope they can create something with it while the support roles in your team will also try to get involved in attack but much less aggressive than your three forwards. The fluid approach on the other hand will make sure that your two midfielders and WBs try to get involved in the attacking play with almost as much urgency as your 3 strikers, thus offering more options going forward but also leaving your 3 CBs more exposed. Now the tricky part is when to chose which approach actually. I feel that in FM 18 the only way to break super defensive sides is to overrun them. So against a 4-1-4-1 that sits super deep I would probably chose your fluid tactic while against a team that is in the big 6 and has the quality of players to hurt my with fast attacks and has between 2 or 3 dedicated attacking players on the I would probably go with the structured approach to be less exposed at the back. In my Dortmund save where I micro manage a lot I usually chose the following approach with my 4-1-4-1/4-1-2-2-1. Against weaker teams that play defensive I usually go with a counter mentality and a fluid, or even very fluid shape. This way I can commit a lot of players forward, keep hold of the ball, so not to lose it in any dangerous situation and run into a counter an overwhelm my opponents. Against teams on par with me that play a bit more open I go with a more attacking approach mentality but a structured approach. For playing with "regular" tactics I feel this approach has suited me fairly well so far. So to answer your actual question I would say no. It always depends who you are facing. Is the team you are facing super defensive? Do they press you like mad? Do they have a more balanced approach? See a lot of people struggle with tactics because they don't get this vital concept, teams don't always play the same against you no matter if you are the underdog or a top team. Of course against a top team the opposition will start defensive almost every game but even as the underdog if you have had an amazing winning streak and teams are starting to respect/fear you more their approach will change.
  9. I see it mainly as a "risk tacking" manipulator. With Fluid there will be more players participating in attacking transition phases which might make your team more prone getting hit while trying to counter yourself. Means if you have strong defenders you might get away with leaving them on their own defending, if you don't happen to have three CBs you are probably better off keeping the team in structured shape and let your three strikers make the major contribution to any attacking transition, while the deeper positions stay back a bit more. I'll probably take this tactic in my youth development save and employ it against much weaker teams while I will stick with the structured approach against the stronger ones. Gonna report back how my second season went, once I've finished it.
  10. Knap I think you have broken FM again. Used this tactic with my United save where the goal is to develop a lot of youth players and made no transfers in the first season and still won everything. Martial was a real beast on the right AF position.
  11. I have pretty much the same experience in all my games this season and the ****** long shots are one of the major reasons why breaking down very defensive teams is nearly impossible sometimes. Even players like Pogba who have long range shots 19 and technique 18 regularly hits the corner flag with his shooting. I had a look at my last 20 league games and there are 0 goals scored from outside the box for me and my opponents. There were versions of the ME where the long range shooting was out of wack but never to such an extend.
  12. Phillip is doing quite alright as the false 9, Götze is just coming back from a long injury but I will probably try him there as well. Auba on the wing might actually be a good idea of getting him back into team. Currently though Schürrle and Pulisic are doing pretty amazingly there while Reus and Brandt are my inside wingers, even though Reus is injured almost all the time. Brandt (8) is currently my best goal scorer along with Philipp (7).
  13. He still does the inside winger thing and up pushing FBs in certain games, mostly though it's just one FB that pushes forward, sometimes it even changes in one game. I reckon it depends on where Guardiola thinks an overload will be beneficial. I adopted the tactic in my Dortmund save with an IW-A on the left, since I don't have a left footed player in the team and put a FB-A/WB-S on that side who stays wide. Concerning the possession it don't really pay much attention to it because it usually lowers if a team just passes around at the back which happens for a lot of super defensive teams. The problem that I saw wasn't really my own passing which is almost every game above 85%, 87% average after 10 games and that looks really good, especially considering that I don't really have a striker atm who fits into the F9 role.
  14. @thejay I had a look at your setup for the 5 games so far and I have to say your setup probably gets the closest I have yet see to who I would expect a Guardiola team to play in game. Great job man. Pressing is the only thing I'm not yet 100% satisfied with but I don't think it's actually quite possible to press like City in game. It's still very good though.
  15. Interesting to see people have switched to a 4-1-4-1 here because that was actually something I had in mind as well. MIght take some inspiration from your setup ;-) and give it a try as well.
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