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7 hours ago, craigcwwe said:
This. Belgium were poor really this tournament. They were awful vs Portugal in the last round.
I agree.
That's the general concesus in the Belgian media too. In 2018 we ended up 3th and getting a lot praise with attacking good football, losing out to a very defensive France side. This EC Belgium opted for a more cynical approach in favor of getting a better result. I supppose it's a fair tactic. But the result is, if you do end up getting eliminated (early) you end up having showed absolutely nothing and there is no silver lining to your tournament.
So on a bright side, maybe this EC will be the tournament where good football will be rewarded again.
Also in regards to the Portugal game I want to add the nuance that the overly rough Portugal team and the overly lenient ref didn't leave much freedom to play football when you have your 2 starplayers literally kicked of the pitch.
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Obviously I'm biased, but honestly I don't understand the controversy about the penalty. Doku struggles himself between defender and ball at high pace. If Di Lorenzo holds back and does nothing for 1,5 seconds Doku will continue to run the ball out. Instead he gives him a completely unnecessary push in the back. It was a stupid challenge and zero reason to do it.
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10 minutes ago, Carambau said:
I did not want to downplay what your country has achieved in football, sorry if that came across like that. I just dont like this term "Golden Generation" mentioned all the time because it implies winning titles for me. But maybe thats just me. (I remember the team of 1986 was quite good as well, Eric Gerets and Scifo...)
No worries, I can catch your drift. Fair enough.
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17 minutes ago, Carambau said:
The players are of course very good. But the team did not win any titles. Just think of Brazil 1982. Or Holland 1974. They were not able to crown themselves and their performances which is a pity you could say. Or Portugals so-called "Golden Generation" with Figo, Rui Costa etc. A wooden crown is not the same as a golden crown. The winners chart does not list those teams. Germany would have suffered the same fate if they did not crown their "Golden Generation" at last in 2014.
I suppose it might feel like that for some people. But the teams you are mentioning are traditonal big football countries. I imagine a third spot at a world cup would be a big dissapointment for Brazil. For Belgium it's the best result in the history of our national team. When you look at similar results in history you'll always find big teams there. So we rate it with value.
Belgians might be dissapointed that we only reached the final 8 on 3 occasions. But then again if you are beaten by a better team...
Also as someone fairly pointed out, in this occasion we would have needed to be one of the best winners ever in the history of the EC by beating Portugal, Italy, Spain and England (?). So again no shame.
Just to reiterate that this team supposedly achieved "nothing, nothing" because they never got the gold is not true.
Edit: also this team falls and stands with Debruyne, Lukaku, Courtois, Eden Hazard. They still have 2 tournemants left in them even they're older (just look at Holland 2010). For other positions we still have enough bright talents in the fashion of Tielemans and Doku coming up.
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10 minutes ago, Vynal Seven said:
Well you came 8th-5th in this so congratulations.
Not sure what's going on here, but sure dude.
we've been beaten fairly by a better team. So kuddos on Italy.
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1 minute ago, Vynal Seven said:
I bet KdB does.
If you say so.
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2 minutes ago, Carambau said:
If your aim is to become 3rd in a world cup, ok. Then it is something. But if you want to win its literally nothing.
Nothing in my reply or in that rhetoric even implies that.
And I assume every team starts a tournement with the aim to get the best result possible, and if you get beaten by a better team you can't blame yourself.
in 2018 2 teams ended up being better. No shame in that.
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1 minute ago, Vynal Seven said:
Oh come on, that’s pretty nothing.
Nobody in Belgium shares that sentiment.
Why not just go home after first round then?
On-topic: good game from Italy. We had some good chances, but ultimately they won deservedly. Great team. Love their football.
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4 minutes ago, Carambau said:
Who ever said Belgium is a good team? For years now and they produced nothing, absolutely nothing.
That's an odd thing to say. Are you saying Belgium is not a good team based on not getting gold?
Also, how is a third spot on a WC "nothing"?
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1 minute ago, SouthCoastRed said:
Yesterday, two utterly compelling brilliant games.
Today I had a nap
This. It's an interesting watch, but in comparison to yesterday's two games the pace seems so slow.
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1 hour ago, swansongs said:
Even if he was they're only <95% preventative.
95 % preventive after the second shot, 85 % after the first shot. But it also reduces the chance of infecting others by 90 %.
Just sayin that if you are living in a closed bubble with people who have also been vaccinated, the chances of getting it are very small no? Just wondering how he got it.
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Wasn't he vaccinated?
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Match 51 THE FINAL: Italy vs England - 8pm Sunday BBC1 AND ITV1 LIVE FROM WEMBLEY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I didn't like Italy's antics, but there is no denying they're the deserved champion.
Looking at the entire tournament, they played the best and offensive football. They had the most difficult road to the final. And also in the final last night they had most ball-possession and most shots on target.
They showed themselves to be a very complete team in terms of teamwork, mental strength and technical ability. So well-played.