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  1. Understandable. Some good news however... This issue only appears to occur when viewing matches in the 2D Classic mode (showing my age here perhaps). When viewing matches in 2D Classic and full screen mode on a large screen mac there was an existing issue where the centre circle and penalty area 'D' did not display. I'm guessing now but it would appear that the new macOS only makes things worse in 2D Classic mode to the point of it crashing. Anyone else reading this be reassured that this issue does not appear to occur when playing the game using the 3D Director TV Camera view.
  2. My Mac has updated to macOS High Sierra. The first time I try to play FM 2012 (via Steam) and my save crashes during my next match and I get the following message: Football Manager 2012 v 12 . 2 . 2 f 259407 quit unexpectedly The match engine and screen clicks become laggy and the screen flickers a bit prior to it crashing. My system spec. is as follows: iMac (27-inch, Late 2013) 3.5 GHz Intel Core i7 16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M 4 GB Please help!
  3. Zonal marking is my preference, and as this formation will rarely line up man for man against the opposition then I think it is the most suitable option to maintain the team's shape. I do not recommend Inside Forwards for this tactic because the AMC and ST(a) are in the spaces where you'd be expecting the IFs to run/move into. I use IF(a)'s in a 4-5-1 formation either side of a Complete Forward (Support) for example. Also, Wing Backs aren't as effective with this Fluid Philosophy set-up in my opinion because they have a relatively low mentality compared to other philosophies such as Balanced. I would definitely stick with Full Backs for this - they need to be feeding balls to the Wingers ahead of them rather than trying to run beyond them.
  4. I agree with the post above. For me the key to this tactic is filling the gap between the DMs and AMs. This can be done with DMs who make Forward Runs and an AMC who doesn't. Wth this in mind the selection of player roles was straightforward for me - and the following set-up was really effective when I used it in FM12. The ST and AMC were really potent and I really enjoyed the attacking play this tactic creates. There is a lot of similarity with your player choices so I'd suggest giving it a try and I'd be interested to hear how you get on with it in FM13. Formation: 4-2-3-1 Deep Philosophy: Fluid Strategy: Standard Passing Style: Default Creative Freedom: Default Closing Down: Default Tacling: Default Marking: Zonal Crossing: Default Roaming: Default GK - Goalkeeper (Defend) ......... I'm also thinking to try a Sweeper Keeper (Support) to mop up behind the two flat DCs DR - Full Back (Automatic) DCR - Central Defender (Defend) DCL - Central Defender (Defend) DL - Full Back (Automatic) DMCR - Defensive Midfielder (Support) DMCL - Defensive Midfielder (Support) AMR - Winger (Support) AMC - Trequartista (Attack) AML - Winger (Support) ST - Advanced Forward (Attack) ......... set as Target Man, Run Onto Ball
  5. A couple of things to comment on. Firstly, I would be reluctant to play a short passing game with this formation because there is a clear gap between the DM and AM strata. Even more so with your choice of DM(d) and DLP who both have Forward Runs set to rarely. Your AMC has Forward Runs mixed meaning that he will be running away from your DMs at times as will your Wingers more frequently. I'd recommend DMs who make Forward Runs and an AMC with Forward Runs set to Rarely. The second issue for me is the DC(stopper) behind the DLP. The DLP is sitting right in the space where the DC(stopper) is trying to push up into so they will be right in each other's way. Finally, your choice of Wingers & Wing Backs. Wing Backs would be better behind Inside Forwards who cut inside to leave space for the WBs to pass them on the outside. Wingers hug the touchline so again you have two players, Wingers and WBs, on your flanks who are tying to operate in the same space. Here is my preferred set-up for this formation. I played this way on FM12, I love the attacking part of this tactic the most as the ST can get a lot of goals and the TQ ghosts into the box to score a fair few also! Formation: 4-2-3-1 Deep Philosophy: Fluid Strategy: Standard Passing Style: Default Creative Freedom: Default Closing Down: Default Tacling: Default Marking: Zonal Crossing: Default Roaming: Default GK - Goalkeeper (Defend) ......... I'm also thinking to try a Sweeper Keeper (Support) to mop up behind the two flat DCs DR - Full Back (Automatic) DCR - Central Defender (Defend) DCL - Central Defender (Defend) DL - Full Back (Automatic) DMCR - Defensive Midfielder (Support) DMCL - Defensive Midfielder (Support) AMR - Winger (Support) AMC - Trequartista (Attack) AML - Winger (Support) ST - Advanced Forward (Attack) ......... set as Target Man, Run Onto Ball
  6. In short, no. The Cover & Stopper combination is not good against lone strikers and tends to conceed goals in which case I set up with both DCs on a Defend duty. This is my flat 4-4-2 tactic which I use against an opposition 4-5-1 (4-1-2-2-1). Formation: 4-4-2 Philosophy: Balanced Strategy: Standard Passing Style: Default Creative Freedom: Default Closing Down: Default Tacling: Default Marking: Zonal Crossing: Default Roaming: Default GK - Goalkeeper (Defend) ......... I'm also thinking to try a Sweeper Keeper (Support) to mop up behind the two flat DCs. DR - Full Back (Automatic) DCR - Central Defender (Defend) DCL - Central Defender (Defend) DL - Full Back (Automatic) MR - Wide Midfielder (Attack) MCR - Box To Box Midfielder (Support) MCL - Central Midfielder (Defend) ML - Wide Midfielder (Attack) STR - Defensive Forward (Support) ......... set to specifically mark the opposition DMC via player instructions STL - Advanced Forward (Attack)
  7. I have to disagree PeeKay although I do understand the concern you put forward. In this tactic the BWM is backed up by the DC (Stopper) directly behind him on the left side of centre. The DLP is not the more adventurous player in this set-up and his average position is always slightly behind the BWM in the space ahead of the DC (Cover), especially with the 'Comes Deep To Get Ball' PPM. Where you are absoultely correct though is the susceptibility to being outnumbered in midfield. I do not use this against any opposition lone ST formations or any that use a DMC, I have other tactics for these. This does work against a few formations but primarily I use it to destroy other 4-4-2s. Worth pointing out that it was created in FM12, I haven't played FM13 yet but I don't think this will affect on the tactical design.
  8. frapast1981 This is my favourite 4-4-2 tactic. Without any information on your players it is hard to say whether it will suit your team, all I would advise is try to find suitable players for each of the roles. A lot of thought has gone into combining the player roles, philosophy/mentality structure and strategy. If you read the decriptions given for all of these in the game then you should understand the choices made and how it knits together. This tactic is designed to play against other 4-4-2 formations and aims to get the DLP & DLF operating between the opposition lines/strata. Formation: 4-4-2 Philosophy: Balanced Strategy: Control Passing Style: More Direct Creative Freedom: Default Closing Down: Press More Tacling: Default Marking: Zonal Crossing: Default Roaming: Default GK - Goalkeeper (Defend) DR - Full Back (Automatic) DCR - Central Defender (Cover) DCL - Central Defender (Stopper) DL - Full Back (Automatic) MR - Winger (Attack) MCR - Deep Lying Playmaker (Support) MCL - Ball Winning Midfielder (Defend) ML - Winger (Attack) STR - Deep Lying Forward (Support) STL - Poacher (Attack)
  9. Against that Oxford 4-4-1-1 or any other formation using an AMC I would play the following. This is a still a bit developmental but has been conceived using the same principles as my previous two tactic offerings, which are proven. Formation: 4-5-1 Philosophy: Rigid Strategy: Counter Passing Style: Shorter Creative Freedom: Default Closing Down: Stand Off More Tacling: Default Marking: Zonal Crossing: Default Roaming: Default GK - Sweeper Keeper (Defend) DR - Full Back (Automatic) DCR - Ball Playing Defender (Defend) DCL - Central Defender (Defend) DL - Full Back (Automatic) DMC - Anchor Man (Defend) MCR - Ball Winning Midfielder (Support) MCL - Advanced Playmaker (Support) AMR - Inside Forward (Attack) AML - Inside Forward (Attack) STL - Complete Forward (Support) ......... set as Target Man, supply To Feet
  10. Below is the tactic I play against an opposing 4-5-1 (4-1-2-2-1) formation. Again, if you read the in-game descriptions then you will understand the player role choices. This set-up is about simplicity. The Standard strategy is selected to bring the most out of the Box To Box Midfielder and essentially balance his attack and defensive contribution. Closing Down is also set to Default to balance the contributions from the Wide Midfielders to the defence, midfield and attack as the role description states. The Default passing choice is also selected based on the the use of Wide Midfielders, their wide play is 'Normal' in the game so I didn't want to increase my team's width by choosing More Direct passing (as per my previous post when using Wingers) or reduce it by choosing Shorter and create inconsistency. Formation: 4-4-2 Philosophy: Balanced Strategy: Standard Passing Style: Default Creative Freedom: Default Closing Down: Default Tacling: Default Marking: Zonal Crossing: Default Roaming: Default GK - Goalkeeper (Defend) ......... I'm also thinking to try a Sweeper Keeper (Support) to mop up behind the two flat DCs. DR - Full Back (Automatic) DCR - Central Defender (Defend) DCL - Central Defender (Defend) DL - Full Back (Automatic) MR - Wide Midfielder (Attack) MCR - Box To Box Midfielder (Support) MCL - Central Midfielder (Defend) ML - Wide Midfielder (Attack) STR - Defensive Forward (Support) ......... set to specifically mark the opposition DMC via player instructions STL - Advanced Forward (Attack)
  11. graememaxwell87 Looking at some of the player roles you have selected you might like to give a tactic I have 'perfected' from FM2012. This tactic does great against other 4-4-2s as it gets the DLP and DLF playing between the opposition's lines/strata. I won't give a detailed explanation here, all I would advise is to read the player role descriptions in the game and you will understand how each of these roles compliment each other, as does the strategy, as does the philosophy/mentality structure. Formation: 4-4-2 Philosophy: Balanced Strategy: Control Passing Style: More Direct Creative Freedom: Default Closing Down: Press More Tacling: Default Marking: Zonal Crossing: Default Roaming: Default GK - Goalkeeper (Defend) DR - Full Back (Automatic) DCR - Central Defender (Cover) DCL - Central Defender (Stopper) DL - Full Back (Automatic) MR - Winger (Attack) MCR - Deep Lying Playmaker (Support) MCL - Ball Winning Midfielder (Defend) ML - Winger (Attack) STR - Deep Lying Forward (Support) STL - Poacher (Attack)
  12. wwfan, I played a 4-2-3-1 Deep formation in FM12 as detailed below and really liked the potency of the striker who grabbed a large majority of the goals. The TQ would contribute a few also when ghosting into the area to receive balls from the wingers when high up the pitch. The tactic was totally built using the TC and the roles, as you'll see, were as per the default tactic menu for this formation. Philosophy: Fluid Strategy: Standard Goalkeeper (Defend) 2 x Full Backs (Automatic) 2 x Central Defenders (Defend) 2 x Defensive Midfielders (Support) AMR - Winger (Support) AMC - Trequartista (Attack) AML - Winger (Support) ST - Advanced Forward (Attack) Zonal Marking, everything else on Default Target Man: ST, Run Onto Ball Was I succesful with this tactic because it exploited the 'collision' flaw in the FM12 match engine?
  13. I'd say that is spot on. The problem has always been that for the attributes you are happy to accept no increase, or simply wish to maintain, there has never been a way to ensure that this happens. It has always been guess work on where to set the relevant training slider. The great thing with FM11 is that we have the attributes graph which allows us to see the progress of attribute development/decline which essentially allows us to control the pace of development/decline or ensure maintenance. If development is happening too slow or decline is happening too fast then we can now detect this (within a 1 month timescale, which is a massive improvement!) and increase the training level. As attributes change the chances of further changes are altered/recalculated and thus modification to the training schedule may be required to continue the progress you wish to see. By monitoring the graph you can detect increases, decreases, plateaus etc. in attribute development and 'manage' the training of you players as you decide.
  14. Sincere apologies Teutomatos for not giving you due credit if it was you. I genuinely couldn't remember who first described the linear approach.
  15. Just to be clear, there is no mantralux approach. I think you are referring to the 'linear' approach (I forget the inventor/author EDIT: Was it you Naks?) which I personally have no time for and it is something that mantralux asked to be removed from her thread. To my mind, the 'linear' approach takes 3-4 months to ascertain information that is of no practical use, and furthermore, like you I prefer to train specialist players on the whole, not all-rounders. The principle of SFraser's approach is still valid, absolutely. Giving less focus to the categories which contain attributes that are less important to a player's position is the basis of 'position-general' schedule design. My belief is that the best results are achieved by tailoring individual schedules (i know this is time consuming!) and the addition of the attributes graph this time around makes this much more intuitive. We didn't have the graph last year and I thought that my training design tool was useful, now I don't - simple as that.
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